“even if one party is honest enough to stick by their words and deeds”

the Nazi party did that, are you suggesting then that they should get my vote out of respect for that? And no I’m not comparing Republicans to Nazis, just foolishly attempting to show you the idiocy of your statement. Most of what you said is actually a perfect description of the mindset of a “gay conservative”. The sentence about screaming blah blah blah isn’t applicable because y’all just bend over and beg for it.

Oops guess I decided to waste my time.

Umm, who brought up concentration camps. I’m simply pointing out that the GOP is quite vocally against pro-gay positions, they even have a whole Orwellian term for their positions against gay issues; they are “pro-family.” So equating inviting Rick Warren, who is a member of the GOP and their most anti-gay wing of the party to boot, the same as having an abuse husband is interesting compared to the actions of the party that brings forward these constitutional amendments against not only gay marriage but also civil unions and rights that approximate marriage at both the state and federal level.

LOL…and once again, the gay left tries to spin away their support and endorsement of the abusive Democrat Party by making their usual “Republicans are running concentration camps” arguments.

Why do gay Democrats lie so much about Republicans? Is it because they cannot deal with their own party’s abuse of them, so they have to make Republicans look worse to explain why they support abusive Democrats?

Absent that, gays just basically voted for higher taxes. (Do the math. No dual-filing benefit from marriage, plus six figure income, equals YOU’RE “THE RICH” THAT DEMS WILL BE SAYIGN DON’T PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE.)

The Dems must really get a laugh out of you suckers.

I was aware of that, and that’s a positive. But it doesn’t erase Obama’s poor judgment in selecting Warren. Perhaps Obama should invite an anti-Black racist to deliver the invocation and a pro-Black person to deliver the benediction instead.

And you guys are crowing about him inviting one of them to give a speech,

What are you going to do? It’s the opposition, and they saw Obama make a bonehead move.

while you have an army of them in your own midst and just sit there and grin and bear it when they are trotted out again and again.

Misery loves company.

Moving your analogy along, gays should stop being in a relationship with the husband that beats them in private (Democrats) to go to a new one that beats them in public and in private (Republicans)?

Rick Warren is far from perfect on gay issues, but if Obama’s goal is to build bridges this is a way to do it. No one here seems to be mentioning the pro-gay pastor that is giving the benediction later in the speech. That doesn’t fit the whole “Obama doesn’t like gays” line, so I get that. In the last election though you had one candidate that actively supported ENDA, extending hate crimes benefits to cover sexual orientation and announced his support for civil unions. You had another candidate who actively fought all of those and even actively campaigned against a state level constitutional marriage amendment that was so draconian it couldn’t even pass in the red state of Arizona. How is Obama supposedly worse on gay issues than that?

I think the fringe left has got their panties in a wad over nothing. Obama is reaching across the isle and not pulling in a Dobson or Hagee, he’s pulling a far more mild right wing preacher who also invited Obama to speak despite disagreeing with him on social issues. I’d prefer he didn’t select him, but it’s really a tempest in a teapot. Whenever the fringe gets excited like this it’s usually because the political leader isn’t acting ideologically pure enough (that goes for Democrats and Republicans). That’s usually a good thing as far as I’m concerned.

I think for most people, it’s a choice between being slapped around or being beaten to a pulp. Some people do choose being beaten to a pulp.

But he lost a lot of points with his selection of Warren for delivering the inaugural invocation.

Don’t you have to do something useful to earn points in the first place?

1. Being punk’d occasionally by a party that’s otherwise halfway decent, if flawed on gay issues.

Occasionally?
This would be the same party who promissed to carry out “the will of the poeple”, then gave Americans the finger when we told them that we wanted more domestic oil production. This would be the same party that promissed to erradicate “corruption” in DC and “drain the swamp”. We have seen the swamp and it’s the liberal left. This would be the same party that promissed it would make DC more transparent. Meanwhile, Bush did more for transparency that the liberals.

This would be the same party who punk’d America with: the Valerie Wilson kerfuffle, claims of “torture”, repeatedly taking the side of terrorists, “Bush lied!”, “quagmire!”, “worst economy ever!”, “worst president ever!”, “General Betray-us!”, Katrina, “Change!”, “Hope!”, Club Gitmo, Abu Ghraib, “650,000 dead Iraqis” and on and on and on and on to infinity.

The liberal left is, at the very best, a huge punk’d skit and too damn many Americans just laugh it off. One would think folks would be sick and tired of the steady diet of bullshit fed to us by the liberal left.

2. Being raped repeatedly by a party while childishly wishing that MAYBE ONE DAY Daddy will stop beating me?

How many more beatings will gays have to take from liberals before they get fed up? As I’ve said before, back in my EMS days, we’d go out on the “domestic” calls. We’d encounter a woman who’d been beaten black and blue. We tried to offer help and suggested she leave, but she’d always say “but he loves me!”.

Gays always vote Dem, get their asses kicked by them, the libs will tell them “I love you and I need you, baby” and the gays will always stick with them. The gays are frosted by the selection of Warren, but Comrade Obama will nominate a gay here or there for NavSec or some such, the gays will get all moist and start fighting each other over who has the best chances of sucking Comrade O’s dick.

And so it goes.

The lack of self-awareness on this blog is stunning.

The lack of honesty and/or a good grasp of reality on your part is fucking pathetic.

I think the gay fringe got their panties in a wad over nothing. I like when the party fringes get their panties in a wad (Democrat or Republican). It usually means the members are doing something that isn’t ideologically pure. More often than not that’s a good thing.

Now you know how conservatives feel about McCain.”

Er… Obama didn’t suddenly stab them in the back. Obama has ALWAYS opposed gay marriage, and has ALWAYS been ambivalent about gay rights in general. Whether this is due to personal conviction or political expediency is anyone’s guess. I can’t quite understand why anyone would ever think otherwise, unless all they saw was the “D – IL” after his name.

This is simply a case of people seeing what they wanted to see and ignoring the facts right in front of their face, to the point of being delusional.

but after giving some more thought. . .

I find it quite amusing that BHO selected ‘the man behind the curtain’ for now lots of folk will be paying a tad bit more attention to Brother Warren, as he continues to build his faith fortresses(4th largest church in america-wikipedia). And, with Warren as the BHO pick, Prop 8 hit the radar again on a national level.

Bringing folk together is what BHO is all about, and sometimes that is like inviting the relatives from the distant side of the family to the wedding, christining (sp), bar mitzvah, etc. that no one really wants to invite or even see. But after they all get together, well, sometimes more fireworks.

I have only seen Brother Warren in two video clips, like his charisma and admire him not only as a very effective spokesperson, but for his ability to keep his ‘cool’.

But all this aside, before true conversations and dialogues to develop, folk must be around the table. This is OHB’s hope and tactic for change.

But then again The Godfather once said, ‘Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.’

Blacks have been used by the Democratic party for four decades… and they still vote as a block for the asses donkeys.

Well at least it payed off for the Blacks, they just got a Black president.

I knew as early as the Donnie McClurkin fiasco that HomophObama was as bad for gays as he would be for, well, everyone else in this country.