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		<title>By: ZoBox Politix &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sympathy for the Devil</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/05/bush-signs-gay-rights-law/comment-page-1/#comment-359810</link>
		<dc:creator>ZoBox Politix &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sympathy for the Devil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gay Rights Law: I can barely believe it myself, but on December 23 Bush signed into law the the Worker, Retiree and Employer Recovery Act of 2008, whichÂ makes it mandatory for businesses [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lisa Keen</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/05/bush-signs-gay-rights-law/comment-page-1/#comment-356786</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Keen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce -- I want to quote your recent comment regarding the Employer Recovery Act that Bush signed last month but also ask you what other things you would point to in assessing Bush&#039;s legacy --with regards to the LGBT community. Can you email me? -Lisa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce &#8212; I want to quote your recent comment regarding the Employer Recovery Act that Bush signed last month but also ask you what other things you would point to in assessing Bush&#8217;s legacy &#8211;with regards to the LGBT community. Can you email me? -Lisa</p>
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		<title>By: The International House of Bacon &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Link Dumping</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/05/bush-signs-gay-rights-law/comment-page-1/#comment-356769</link>
		<dc:creator>The International House of Bacon &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Link Dumping</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gay Patriot says it best: &#8220;[B]y signing this into law, President George W. Bush has, by law, done more for gays than [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/05/bush-signs-gay-rights-law/comment-page-1/#comment-353009</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 00:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, now.  Does this mean that the partner of a gay military person, retired, can now claim the benefits that my mom got as a widow?  WOW.  I may dump my partner of 25 years and find a nice retired rear admiral.  Or something.

Seriously, I do pray that such benefits are available to widows/widowers of retired military.

This, however, brings up another point.  What about the benefits enjoyed by military families across the nation?  Will the partner of a deceased military person be entitled to commisary and px privileges?  Champus? VA Hospital care?

These are all part and parcel of retirement benefits.

I sincerely doubt that claims for these benefits will float.  Not seeing the law itself, I can only assume that it just means pension benefits in this case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, now.  Does this mean that the partner of a gay military person, retired, can now claim the benefits that my mom got as a widow?  WOW.  I may dump my partner of 25 years and find a nice retired rear admiral.  Or something.</p>
<p>Seriously, I do pray that such benefits are available to widows/widowers of retired military.</p>
<p>This, however, brings up another point.  What about the benefits enjoyed by military families across the nation?  Will the partner of a deceased military person be entitled to commisary and px privileges?  Champus? VA Hospital care?</p>
<p>These are all part and parcel of retirement benefits.</p>
<p>I sincerely doubt that claims for these benefits will float.  Not seeing the law itself, I can only assume that it just means pension benefits in this case.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/05/bush-signs-gay-rights-law/comment-page-1/#comment-352973</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay V, I&#039;ll just re-post my observations without the word &quot;intolerable.&quot;

;-)

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay V, I&#8217;ll just re-post my observations without the word &#8220;intolerable.&#8221;</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/05/bush-signs-gay-rights-law/comment-page-1/#comment-352878</link>
		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, Erik&#039;s not that intolerable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, Erik&#8217;s not that intolerable.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/05/bush-signs-gay-rights-law/comment-page-1/#comment-352828</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#36 - Erik, I know NDT.  I also know intolerable pricks.  NDT is not an intolerable prick.  You, sir, on the other hand, are indeed an intolerable prick.

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#36 &#8211; Erik, I know NDT.  I also know intolerable pricks.  NDT is not an intolerable prick.  You, sir, on the other hand, are indeed an intolerable prick.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/05/bush-signs-gay-rights-law/comment-page-1/#comment-352827</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#36 - Erik vomited:

&quot;Gay marriage is not our only legislative issue.&quot;

Then name a few others.  I double-dog dare you to identify at least ONE legislative issue that is not directly attributed to your identity politics.

Go ahead.  We&#039;re waiting.

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#36 &#8211; Erik vomited:</p>
<p>&#8220;Gay marriage is not our only legislative issue.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then name a few others.  I double-dog dare you to identify at least ONE legislative issue that is not directly attributed to your identity politics.</p>
<p>Go ahead.  We&#8217;re waiting.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/05/bush-signs-gay-rights-law/comment-page-1/#comment-352807</link>
		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Gay marriage is not our only legislative issue.&lt;/i&gt;

Sure. The leftist gays like Erik whine and scream about &quot;hate crimes&quot; while they hang Sarah Palin in effigy, and they complain about needing protection from &quot;employment discrimination&quot; while demanding that people be fired over $100 donations to causes they don&#039;t like.

And I&#039;m sure I&#039;m intolerable to you, Erik; liberals rarely, if ever, can tolerate anyone who dares to challenge them or their errors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Gay marriage is not our only legislative issue.</i></p>
<p>Sure. The leftist gays like Erik whine and scream about &#8220;hate crimes&#8221; while they hang Sarah Palin in effigy, and they complain about needing protection from &#8220;employment discrimination&#8221; while demanding that people be fired over $100 donations to causes they don&#8217;t like.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m intolerable to you, Erik; liberals rarely, if ever, can tolerate anyone who dares to challenge them or their errors.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/05/bush-signs-gay-rights-law/comment-page-1/#comment-352803</link>
		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;NDT - youâ€™re an intolerable prick, so I donâ€™t respond to your comments.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

LOL, you just did. And you managed to name-call while implicitly conceding the point. Well done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>NDT &#8211; youâ€™re an intolerable prick, so I donâ€™t respond to your comments.</p></blockquote>
<p>LOL, you just did. And you managed to name-call while implicitly conceding the point. Well done.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/05/bush-signs-gay-rights-law/comment-page-1/#comment-352793</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;I wasnt aware that California, where gay marriage went down in flames was part of the south.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Gay marriage is not our only legislative issue.

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;Thank you, Erik, for making it obvious the degree to which you will prostitute yourself to protect your massas, even to the point of throwing your own Congressional Democrats under the bus.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

NDT - you&#039;re an intolerable prick, so I don&#039;t respond to your comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite=""><p>I wasnt aware that California, where gay marriage went down in flames was part of the south.</p></blockquote>
<p>Gay marriage is not our only legislative issue.</p>
<blockquote cite=""><p>Thank you, Erik, for making it obvious the degree to which you will prostitute yourself to protect your massas, even to the point of throwing your own Congressional Democrats under the bus.</p></blockquote>
<p>NDT &#8211; you&#8217;re an intolerable prick, so I don&#8217;t respond to your comments.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/05/bush-signs-gay-rights-law/comment-page-1/#comment-352724</link>
		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liberals are so used to the mush of moral equivalence they can&#039;t understand that not all moral values are equal. A moral objection to the taking of an innocent human life is very different than objection to killing an enemy in wartime. (Which, BTW, people are allowed to opt out of by becoming a &quot;Conscientious Objector.&quot;) 

Second, in a free market, a woman who really wants to kill her unborn baby can simply go to someone else who has no moral compunction about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liberals are so used to the mush of moral equivalence they can&#8217;t understand that not all moral values are equal. A moral objection to the taking of an innocent human life is very different than objection to killing an enemy in wartime. (Which, BTW, people are allowed to opt out of by becoming a &#8220;Conscientious Objector.&#8221;) </p>
<p>Second, in a free market, a woman who really wants to kill her unborn baby can simply go to someone else who has no moral compunction about it.</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/05/bush-signs-gay-rights-law/comment-page-1/#comment-352664</link>
		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Um.. anyone else in their careers allowed to simply â€œnotâ€ do their jobs because of moral objections?&lt;/blockquote&gt;Yes, millions of people. Ever see the sign &quot;We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone&quot;?

Its actually called &quot;freedom&quot;, you might want to look it up.

Moreover, your comparison of forcing pharmacists to get into the liberal slaughter business after they have already chosen their careers to people who know full well the duties of their chosen professions before getting in is asinine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Um.. anyone else in their careers allowed to simply â€œnotâ€ do their jobs because of moral objections?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, millions of people. Ever see the sign &#8220;We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone&#8221;?</p>
<p>Its actually called &#8220;freedom&#8221;, you might want to look it up.</p>
<p>Moreover, your comparison of forcing pharmacists to get into the liberal slaughter business after they have already chosen their careers to people who know full well the duties of their chosen professions before getting in is asinine.</p>
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		<title>By: tommyz</title>
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		<dc:creator>tommyz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um... sorry - a bit schizophrenic in the final days ... no?  First he lets medical professionals let their morals guide their treatments -then he throws a bone.  Um.. anyone else in their careers allowed to simply &quot;not&quot; do their jobs because of moral objections?  Sorry General - i can&#039;t fire the weapon because killing is wrong.. sorry Mr. Bank President - i cant&#039; charge interest because its against the bible - sorry Ms. Stewart - but I can&#039;t wear weather and cotton at the same time..... Laughable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um&#8230; sorry &#8211; a bit schizophrenic in the final days &#8230; no?  First he lets medical professionals let their morals guide their treatments -then he throws a bone.  Um.. anyone else in their careers allowed to simply &#8220;not&#8221; do their jobs because of moral objections?  Sorry General &#8211; i can&#8217;t fire the weapon because killing is wrong.. sorry Mr. Bank President &#8211; i cant&#8217; charge interest because its against the bible &#8211; sorry Ms. Stewart &#8211; but I can&#8217;t wear weather and cotton at the same time&#8230;.. Laughable.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or that crack improves one&#039;s orientation to reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or that crack improves one&#8217;s orientation to reality.</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/05/bush-signs-gay-rights-law/comment-page-1/#comment-352511</link>
		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But now that The South has been marginalized at both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue, we are going to see movement on long stalled initiatives important to our community.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I wasnt aware that California, where gay marriage went down in flames was part of the south. (or WA, OR, NV, AZ etc, etc, etc for that matter)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But now that The South has been marginalized at both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue, we are going to see movement on long stalled initiatives important to our community.</p></blockquote>
<p>I wasnt aware that California, where gay marriage went down in flames was part of the south. (or WA, OR, NV, AZ etc, etc, etc for that matter)</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/05/bush-signs-gay-rights-law/comment-page-1/#comment-352489</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeb did the same, a few years back, after a lesbian police officer was shot and killed in TPA.

&lt;blockquote&gt;but clintonâ€™s record on GLBT legislation runs deeper. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Does all that excuse his  daydreaming during meetings with &quot;gay leaders&quot;? Rich Tafel has written that BJ&#039;s WH staff wore latex gloves to welcome those leaders. Does &quot;I feel your pain&quot; excuse all that?

BTW, who&#039;s keeping tabs on the number of gay media outlets Comrade Obama has granted interviews to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeb did the same, a few years back, after a lesbian police officer was shot and killed in TPA.</p>
<blockquote><p>but clintonâ€™s record on GLBT legislation runs deeper. </p></blockquote>
<p>Does all that excuse his  daydreaming during meetings with &#8220;gay leaders&#8221;? Rich Tafel has written that BJ&#8217;s WH staff wore latex gloves to welcome those leaders. Does &#8220;I feel your pain&#8221; excuse all that?</p>
<p>BTW, who&#8217;s keeping tabs on the number of gay media outlets Comrade Obama has granted interviews to?</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 05:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Missing here seems to be a â€œThank Youâ€ to the Democratic Congress who passed the bill in the first place.&lt;/i&gt; 

Actually, the Pension Protection Act, which created this concept in the first place and of which the WRERA is a clarification, was passed in 2006, when Republicans were firmly in control of Congress -- and over the objections of many Democrats like Harry Reid.

&lt;i&gt;There were no gay rights bill for Clinton to sign as President because he had a hostile, anti-gay Congress controlled by the Republicans (and southern Democrats for the first two years of his Administration.)&lt;/i&gt;

Which is why he signed both DADT and DOMA instead of vetoing them, as he had the power to do and didn&#039;t. Thank you, Erik, for making it obvious the degree to which you will prostitute yourself to protect your massas, even to the point of throwing your own Congressional Democrats under the bus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Missing here seems to be a â€œThank Youâ€ to the Democratic Congress who passed the bill in the first place.</i> </p>
<p>Actually, the Pension Protection Act, which created this concept in the first place and of which the WRERA is a clarification, was passed in 2006, when Republicans were firmly in control of Congress &#8212; and over the objections of many Democrats like Harry Reid.</p>
<p><i>There were no gay rights bill for Clinton to sign as President because he had a hostile, anti-gay Congress controlled by the Republicans (and southern Democrats for the first two years of his Administration.)</i></p>
<p>Which is why he signed both DADT and DOMA instead of vetoing them, as he had the power to do and didn&#8217;t. Thank you, Erik, for making it obvious the degree to which you will prostitute yourself to protect your massas, even to the point of throwing your own Congressional Democrats under the bus.</p>
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		<title>By: Classical Liberal Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Classical Liberal Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 03:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;by signing this into law, President George W. Bush has, by law, done more for gays than any other President in history.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Doesn&#039;t count, Bruce, don&#039;t you know that?

G W Bush is an anti-gay evangelical. Nothing he does can count as pro-homosexual. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>by signing this into law, President George W. Bush has, by law, done more for gays than any other President in history.</p></blockquote>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t count, Bruce, don&#8217;t you know that?</p>
<p>G W Bush is an anti-gay evangelical. Nothing he does can count as pro-homosexual. <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Polly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ignatius, I may be reading this wrong (I AM on cold medication today) but this legislation doesn&#039;t seem to &quot;mandate&quot; how business treats its employees.  If an employee is allowed to pass his retirement benefits to someone else upon his death, what does a business care whether the benefits are &quot;rolled over&quot; (further deferring taxes)  or inherited (incurring taxes upon employee&#039;s death).  The only loser in this deal is Government, which loses income it would have received at the time of the employee&#039;s death.  

Congress is already squirming and complaining about current income lost to deferred-taxation accounts.  If this legislation sticks it to anyone, it sticks it to Congress, which feels taxes should be collected early and often.  

Personally, I love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ignatius, I may be reading this wrong (I AM on cold medication today) but this legislation doesn&#8217;t seem to &#8220;mandate&#8221; how business treats its employees.  If an employee is allowed to pass his retirement benefits to someone else upon his death, what does a business care whether the benefits are &#8220;rolled over&#8221; (further deferring taxes)  or inherited (incurring taxes upon employee&#8217;s death).  The only loser in this deal is Government, which loses income it would have received at the time of the employee&#8217;s death.  </p>
<p>Congress is already squirming and complaining about current income lost to deferred-taxation accounts.  If this legislation sticks it to anyone, it sticks it to Congress, which feels taxes should be collected early and often.  </p>
<p>Personally, I love it.</p>
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