What do you make of that?

Indeed. It would be nice if Obama failed to raise taxes, because it would avoid choking and throttling off our economy. It would be nice if Obama failed to nationalize our major industries, because we have the example of the Soviet Union to show us how well that goes. It would be nice if Obama failed to cut off all domestic oil and gas production and exploration, because that would leave us options for the next price shock. It would be nice if Obama failed to hand out trillions of dollars in pork, create trillions of dollars in budget deficits that he’s paying for by printing money, and impose punitive tariffs on imports, thus keeping our country out of an inflationary death spiral like Argentina’s.

You wouldn’t find one if they were sitting on your face because you’re not interested. It would ruin your childish black and white view of political beliefs. Anyone beyond the age of 7 should be well on their way to understanding that it’s beyond stupid to think like that. Only fanatics consumed by hate of the “other side” are unable to see that the ideas of others are just as valid as theirs and cannot be rejected simply because of who they come from. The usual tired response on here will be to list things that are heinous and no one should support. Proof positive that you haven’t a clue.

No, AE, you don’t. You wish for Obama’s failure, big difference.

No, there isn’t.

It’s your personal hatred of all things liberal that you want seen justified.

Because all things liberal is anathema to anyone who has progressed beyond the age of 7.

No doubt there are more mature conservatives AND liberals who do put the country first,

If there are more mature liberals who put the country first, I’ll be damned if I could find one. If one really does, I would have to say that they really aren’t a liberal.

Then again, liberals differ greatly on what it means to put the country first.

In one sentence, the difference between a conservative and a progressive.

You DO get your panties in a bunch dont you?

“I wish America success. ”

No, AE, you don’t. You wish for Obama’s failure, big difference.

Dave, the only thing you do more frequently in these comments than complain (erroneously) of other people telling you what you think, is tell everyone else what they think. Its part of what makes you such a fool.

I wish America success. It is the reason I am a conservative and not a libtard. You see, unlike you, I have learned from history and what works and what does not. I learned that liberalism doesn’t work. I learned that liberalism doesn’t do what it says it will, and I learned that liberalism reduces freedom, liberty, prosperity, opportunity, health and well-being. It subverts the principles this great nation was founded upon, and I believe very strongly in those principles, so I oppose liberalism.

Defending the founding principles from socialism/communism, and opposing people like Obama who want to make America more socialist/communist IS putting country first.

If and when Obama ever does anything to strengthen those founding principles, I will be the first to congratulate him. But given everything he has said and stood for his entire career, that is about as likely as you not being a blithering idiot.

It’s actually possible to hate both Obama and Bush equally–for being lightweight, shallow, incurious frat boys who know what to say to get their backers to like them.

Have we had a President recently who didn’t fit this description? Kennedy certainly had a lightweight presidency. Johnson had to throw in the towel. Nixon had to resign. Ford was a cipher. Carter dawdled and diddled. Reagan was famously known as a B actor and mindless, nap consuming script reader, Bush 41 just didn’t get it, Clinton is still looking for a legacy and then there is BushmonkeyHitler 43.

I do not accept that either Bush or Obama is lightweight, shallow, incurious or just slicksters. It is the voters who are to “blame.” Most likely, Kennedy would have been reelected. Johnson was smart enough to skip his defeat. Nixon saw the same writing on the wall and skipped the impeachment. Ford tried and was smacked down by one of the worst presidents the voters ever turned to. Carter still can’t figure out why he was turned out. Reagan could have had a third term if it were possible. Bush 41 lost his base and Perot caused Clinton to win. Clinton won twice without a majority of the votes. Bush 43 squeeked in and then soundly won a second term. No comments on Obama, he hasn’t shown us his stuff yet.

And I do, but if Obama comes through with a commutation for Ramos and Compean, I will hate him less.

No, AE, you don’t. You wish for Obama’s failure, big difference. It’s your personal hatred of all things liberal that you want seen justified. Who gets hurt by that is meaningless to you. You are the same as those liberals who spent 8 years hating Bush and celebrated ever perceived failure of his policies. No doubt there are more mature conservatives AND liberals who do put the country first, but they’re not the ones wishing total failure for the next President.

The left wanted European style socialism, and damned if we aren’t going to get it.

Well, to be fair, how many Republicans wished success for Clinton in ‘96?

A lot. Not 100%… but quite a larger proportion than Democrats with Bush in 2004.

sierra, you gave a typical left-lib reply: Change the subject, with a false and misleading moral equivalence.

No, I don’t want him to succeed. I want our side to succeed and ne’er the twain shall meet.

Now, Chairman O is doing the same thing: another implicit confession that Bush was right?

Regards,
Peter H.