Comments on: The Opportunity Bush & DeLay Gave Obama http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/08/the-opportunity-bush-delay-gave-obama/ The Internet home for American gay conservatives. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:10:45 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: ILoveCapitalism http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/08/the-opportunity-bush-delay-gave-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-355131 ILoveCapitalism Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:21:30 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=7556#comment-355131 House Republicans had internal meetings and debates to set their agenda and policies. Delay was very much a part of them. That he would have gone enthusiastically with an agenda of deep spending cuts and "no pork, no lobbyists" seems, shall we say, implausible. I will let others in this thread who would know more about GOP internals / dirty laundry take it from here. House Republicans had internal meetings and debates to set their agenda and policies. Delay was very much a part of them. That he would have gone enthusiastically with an agenda of deep spending cuts and “no pork, no lobbyists” seems, shall we say, implausible. I will let others in this thread who would know more about GOP internals / dirty laundry take it from here.

]]> By: American Elephant http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/08/the-opportunity-bush-delay-gave-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-355074 American Elephant Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:27:40 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=7556#comment-355074 And it is precisely because he was so effective in that job that Democrats went to such extraordinarily corrupt lengths to get rid of him. And it is precisely because he was so effective in that job that Democrats went to such extraordinarily corrupt lengths to get rid of him.

]]> By: American Elephant http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/08/the-opportunity-bush-delay-gave-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-355073 American Elephant Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:25:08 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=7556#comment-355073 Yes, he was merely following orders. Let me put it this way, had the President and Republicans had an agenda you approved of, I think Delay would have passed that with equal enthusiasm. I don't think Delay is anywhere near as much an ideologue as he is a partisan. And you know what, whip is the perfect job for such a person. Yes, he was merely following orders. Let me put it this way, had the President and Republicans had an agenda you approved of, I think Delay would have passed that with equal enthusiasm. I don’t think Delay is anywhere near as much an ideologue as he is a partisan. And you know what, whip is the perfect job for such a person.

]]> By: ILoveCapitalism http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/08/the-opportunity-bush-delay-gave-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-354686 ILoveCapitalism Sat, 10 Jan 2009 16:10:50 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=7556#comment-354686 (and that agenda was a K-street agenda of spending and pork to try and buy a "permanent majority") (and that agenda was a K-street agenda of spending and pork to try and buy a “permanent majority”)

]]> By: ILoveCapitalism http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/08/the-opportunity-bush-delay-gave-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-354685 ILoveCapitalism Sat, 10 Jan 2009 16:09:06 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=7556#comment-354685 <blockquote>Delay... did exactly what a whip is supposed to do — got the party’s agenda passed. But the whip is not responsible for crafting that agenda...</blockquote>So he was only following orders? Doubtful. Part of the whip's job is to give advice on what orders he considers reasonable, or is able to pass. Delay brought tremendous enthusiasm to passing the agenda HE wanted, much like a bus driver who is thrilled and enthusiastic about passing the new/higher fares, rather than complaining to his superiors or even resigning in protest.

Delay… did exactly what a whip is supposed to do — got the party’s agenda passed. But the whip is not responsible for crafting that agenda…

So he was only following orders? Doubtful. Part of the whip’s job is to give advice on what orders he considers reasonable, or is able to pass. Delay brought tremendous enthusiasm to passing the agenda HE wanted, much like a bus driver who is thrilled and enthusiastic about passing the new/higher fares, rather than complaining to his superiors or even resigning in protest.

]]> By: American Elephant http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/08/the-opportunity-bush-delay-gave-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-354607 American Elephant Sat, 10 Jan 2009 10:27:02 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=7556#comment-354607 In Delay's defense, as creepy as he may be, he was an excellent majority whip and did exactly what a whip is supposed to do -- got the party's agenda passed. But the whip is not responsible for crafting that agenda, so blaming him for it is a little like blaming the bus driver when the fares go up. I dont know anything about supposed buying of votes, but I do know that the charges Ronnie Earle trumped up are utterly bogus. Indeed, the reason Democrats were out for his head to the point that they broke the law to bring false charges against him is precisely because he was so effective. In Delay’s defense, as creepy as he may be, he was an excellent majority whip and did exactly what a whip is supposed to do — got the party’s agenda passed. But the whip is not responsible for crafting that agenda, so blaming him for it is a little like blaming the bus driver when the fares go up.

I dont know anything about supposed buying of votes, but I do know that the charges Ronnie Earle trumped up are utterly bogus. Indeed, the reason Democrats were out for his head to the point that they broke the law to bring false charges against him is precisely because he was so effective.

]]> By: ThatGayConservative http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/08/the-opportunity-bush-delay-gave-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-354606 ThatGayConservative Sat, 10 Jan 2009 10:10:13 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=7556#comment-354606 <blockquote>Say, TGC, do you also SPEAK in TONGUES, and if so, by chance have it on video. T’would think most of that would be lost in translations through print.</blockquote> Thanks for proving my point re: <blockquote>but I doubt you have the balls to even try.</blockquote> Good job, rusty & sackless.

Say, TGC, do you also SPEAK in TONGUES, and if so, by chance have it on video. T’would think most of that would be lost in translations through print.

Thanks for proving my point re:

but I doubt you have the balls to even try.

Good job, rusty & sackless.

]]> By: North Dallas Thirty http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/08/the-opportunity-bush-delay-gave-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-354549 North Dallas Thirty Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:11:16 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=7556#comment-354549 Oh, and rusty, as I outlined today, the Bay Area Reporter -- our local gay rag -- had Bevan Dufty trying his PR spin on the front page, and had <a href="http://northdallasthirty.blogspot.com/2009/01/reap-whirlwind-part-deux.html" rel="nofollow"> gays talking about how justified the vandalism was or blaming it on Opus Dei on the inside</a>. As I pointed out, it's odd that the Bay Area Reporter didn't publish these letters to the webpage, like they do every week. Wonder why? Oh, and rusty, as I outlined today, the Bay Area Reporter — our local gay rag — had Bevan Dufty trying his PR spin on the front page, and had gays talking about how justified the vandalism was or blaming it on Opus Dei on the inside.

As I pointed out, it’s odd that the Bay Area Reporter didn’t publish these letters to the webpage, like they do every week. Wonder why?

]]> By: patriotmom http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/08/the-opportunity-bush-delay-gave-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-354470 patriotmom Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:19:04 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=7556#comment-354470 DO NOT EVEN GO THERE - TOM DELAY IS ABOUT AS PRINCIPLED AS THE GOVERNOR OF ILLINOIS. I WAS A DISTRICT OFFICE MANAGER FOR BOB WALKER WHEN TOM DELAY STOLE THAT SEAT BY BUYING VOTES. MY BOSS REFUSED TO DO ANYTHING TO BUY THE VOTES. I AM HERE TO TELL YOU THAT HAD BOB WALKER WON WE WOULD NOT BE IN THE MESS WE ARE NOW. DO NOT EVEN GO THERE – TOM DELAY IS ABOUT AS PRINCIPLED AS THE GOVERNOR OF ILLINOIS.
I WAS A DISTRICT OFFICE MANAGER FOR BOB WALKER WHEN TOM DELAY STOLE THAT SEAT BY BUYING VOTES.
MY BOSS REFUSED TO DO ANYTHING TO BUY THE VOTES.
I AM HERE TO TELL YOU THAT HAD BOB WALKER WON WE WOULD NOT BE IN THE MESS WE ARE NOW.

]]> By: North Dallas Thirty http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/08/the-opportunity-bush-delay-gave-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-354415 North Dallas Thirty Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:38:13 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=7556#comment-354415 And here's <a href="http://www.haloscan.com/comments/joemygod/2644023857186180831/#1144899" rel="nofollow">another one</a>: <i>The Catholic Church is our enemy. Catholics who tithe are supporting the Vatican. The Vatican calls me an abomination and WORKS to deprive me of happiness and basic rights with this money. I'll chip-in for the spray paint.</i> And here’s another one:

The Catholic Church is our enemy. Catholics who tithe are supporting the Vatican. The Vatican calls me an abomination and WORKS to deprive me of happiness and basic rights with this money.

I’ll chip-in for the spray paint.

]]> By: North Dallas Thirty http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/08/the-opportunity-bush-delay-gave-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-354414 North Dallas Thirty Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:34:25 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=7556#comment-354414 Ooh, looky here....<a href="http://www.haloscan.com/comments/joemygod/2644023857186180831/#1144816" rel="nofollow"> gay liberals telling the whole truth</a>. <i>This Catholic church (poorly described as Gay-friendly, when it should be described as Catholic-funding) was a fair target due to their attacks on the gay community.</i> Ooh, looky here…. gay liberals telling the whole truth.

This Catholic church (poorly described as Gay-friendly, when it should be described as Catholic-funding) was a fair target due to their attacks on the gay community.

]]> By: GayPatriot » On Economics, Obama Promises More of the Same http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/08/the-opportunity-bush-delay-gave-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-354395 GayPatriot » On Economics, Obama Promises More of the Same Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:33:08 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=7556#comment-354395 [...] The Opportunity Bush & DeLay Gave Obama [...] [...] The Opportunity Bush & DeLay Gave Obama [...]

]]> By: rusty http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/08/the-opportunity-bush-delay-gave-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-354388 rusty Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:02:45 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=7556#comment-354388 Oh, NDT, taking time out from banging the drum. . .how thoughtful http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=&sc2=news&sc3=&id=85654 SF City Supervisor (notably gay) Bevan Dufty issued a resolution denouncing the act of Vandalism. OOOPSY Just was wondering why all the fuss was about the 'Temple of Delay' . . .that's all Oh, NDT, taking time out from banging the drum. . .how thoughtful

http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=&sc2=news&sc3=&id=85654

SF City Supervisor (notably gay) Bevan Dufty issued a resolution denouncing the act of Vandalism. OOOPSY

Just was wondering why all the fuss was about the ‘Temple of Delay’ . . .that’s all

]]> By: North Dallas Thirty http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/08/the-opportunity-bush-delay-gave-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-354378 North Dallas Thirty Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:44:02 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=7556#comment-354378 So rusty, what you've made clear is that you only consider it wrong to take money from Jack Abramoff when the people who do are Republicans. Furthermore, you've also demonstrated that you're an antireligious bigot. That doesn't surprise us either; it's <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/01/06/BA5B1540PH.DTL" rel="nofollow"> typical behavior for the gay left</a>. So rusty, what you’ve made clear is that you only consider it wrong to take money from Jack Abramoff when the people who do are Republicans.

Furthermore, you’ve also demonstrated that you’re an antireligious bigot. That doesn’t surprise us either; it’s typical behavior for the gay left.

]]> By: David M http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/08/the-opportunity-bush-delay-gave-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-354377 David M Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:32:58 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=7556#comment-354377 The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the - <a href="http://thunderrun.blogspot.com/2009/01/web-reconnaissance-for-01092009.html" rel="nofollow"> Web Reconnaissance for 01/09/2009 </a> A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention, updated throughout the day...so check back often. The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the – Web Reconnaissance for 01/09/2009 A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention, updated throughout the day…so check back often.

]]> By: rusty http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/08/the-opportunity-bush-delay-gave-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-354376 rusty Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:28:10 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=7556#comment-354376 Thanks, Mr. Hughes. I found out all I needed about Abramoff and Delay 'Stemming The Rose' but it wasn't with each other, rather it was those folk who the two colluded to get the shaft. I wonder who Abramoff is 'stemming' during his secured time at the Cumberland facility. Favorite Delay Quote: "I am the Federal Government-- to a waitress who asked him to put out his cigar because smoking in a restaurant in Washington is against Federal law. " Thanks, Mr. Hughes. I found out all I needed about Abramoff and Delay ‘Stemming The Rose’ but it wasn’t with each other, rather it was those folk who the two colluded to get the shaft.

I wonder who Abramoff is ‘stemming’ during his secured time at the Cumberland facility.

Favorite Delay Quote:
“I am the Federal Government–
to a waitress who asked him to put out his cigar because smoking in a restaurant in Washington is against Federal law. “

]]> By: Peter Hughes http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/08/the-opportunity-bush-delay-gave-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-354370 Peter Hughes Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:50:16 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=7556#comment-354370 #6 - I would, but TGC in #10 did it far more accurately and succinctly than I could. No need to gild the lily on this one! ;-) Regards, Peter H. #6 – I would, but TGC in #10 did it far more accurately and succinctly than I could.

No need to gild the lily on this one! ;-)

Regards,
Peter H.

]]> By: Roberto http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/08/the-opportunity-bush-delay-gave-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-354369 Roberto Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:47:13 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=7556#comment-354369 I agree with Peter H. regarding Tom DeLay. I have problems with many of George Bush´s decisions. As his term comes to an end he is being praised for keeping America safe, following 9/11. If this were the absolute truth then why hasn´t he given a pardon to Border Agents Ramos and Campion, who were railroaded into jail for doing their sworn duty while the Mexican drug traffiker they wounded goes free? I have sent several e-mails urging the President to pardon them. I agree with Peter H. regarding Tom DeLay. I have problems with many of George Bush´s decisions. As his term comes to an end he is being praised for keeping America safe, following 9/11. If this were the absolute truth then why hasn´t he given a pardon to Border Agents Ramos and Campion, who were railroaded into jail for doing their sworn duty while the Mexican drug traffiker they wounded goes free? I have sent several e-mails urging the President to pardon them.

]]> By: DoDoGuRu http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/08/the-opportunity-bush-delay-gave-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-354367 DoDoGuRu Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:31:18 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=7556#comment-354367 Bush pursues good and asinine policies with equal vigor and stubbornness, which suggests to me that his eventual success in Iraq was a happy accident that only happened because the Surge was Bush's latest buzzword: not because he had any idea what was going on. Bush pursues good and asinine policies with equal vigor and stubbornness, which suggests to me that his eventual success in Iraq was a happy accident that only happened because the Surge was Bush’s latest buzzword: not because he had any idea what was going on.

]]> By: heliotrope http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/08/the-opportunity-bush-delay-gave-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-354332 heliotrope Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:11:50 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=7556#comment-354332 Please let me out of the filter. Please let me out of the filter.

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