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		<title>By: The Livewire</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/17/ronald-reagans-stimulus/comment-page-1/#comment-358984</link>
		<dc:creator>The Livewire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heh to ILC.

We shouldn&#039;t be surprised at PEBO, after all, adDave did conceed he&#039;d do or say anything to get elected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh to ILC.</p>
<p>We shouldn&#8217;t be surprised at PEBO, after all, adDave did conceed he&#8217;d do or say anything to get elected.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/17/ronald-reagans-stimulus/comment-page-1/#comment-358711</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(sorry... &quot;where *our* universeâ€™s bad guys are suddenly civil and sensible&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(sorry&#8230; &#8220;where *our* universeâ€™s bad guys are suddenly civil and sensible&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/17/ronald-reagans-stimulus/comment-page-1/#comment-358710</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll close this out now with something different.  I&#039;d like to project the TGC-ADD exchange into an alternate universe, sort of a Spock-has-a-beard universe where the other universe&#039;s bad guys are suddenly civil and sensible.  In that universe, ADD would have responded to TGC gently like this:&lt;blockquote&gt;Come on, TGC.  Serrano has proposing to lift the 22nd Amendment for years.  And some Republican did it before him.  By which I mean, there&#039;s no necessary connection with Obama here.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I.e., no screeching or insults, just the facts.  And then TGC or somebody would have replied:&lt;blockquote&gt;OK, but it has a much better chance of moving forward now, doesn&#039;t it?  It fits right in with the general mindless adulation of Obama.  I bet lots of other Democrats will get on board with it, now that it would benefit him.&lt;/blockquote&gt;And ADD might have further replied:&lt;blockquote&gt;Well, that&#039;s your bet, then.&lt;/blockquote&gt;But ADD didn&#039;t want such an exchange.  No fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll close this out now with something different.  I&#8217;d like to project the TGC-ADD exchange into an alternate universe, sort of a Spock-has-a-beard universe where the other universe&#8217;s bad guys are suddenly civil and sensible.  In that universe, ADD would have responded to TGC gently like this:<br />
<blockquote>Come on, TGC.  Serrano has proposing to lift the 22nd Amendment for years.  And some Republican did it before him.  By which I mean, there&#8217;s no necessary connection with Obama here.</p></blockquote>
<p>I.e., no screeching or insults, just the facts.  And then TGC or somebody would have replied:<br />
<blockquote>OK, but it has a much better chance of moving forward now, doesn&#8217;t it?  It fits right in with the general mindless adulation of Obama.  I bet lots of other Democrats will get on board with it, now that it would benefit him.</p></blockquote>
<p>And ADD might have further replied:<br />
<blockquote>Well, that&#8217;s your bet, then.</p></blockquote>
<p>But ADD didn&#8217;t want such an exchange.  No fun.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/17/ronald-reagans-stimulus/comment-page-1/#comment-358703</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. While you&#039;re at it, ADD - Why don&#039;t you also try to minimize the fact that for years now, Charlie Rangel, *D* - New York, has been entering bills in the House to bring back the draft?

You could deny that there&#039;s any similarity than that and Obama&#039;s announced hopes of creating a quasi-military, mandatory youth &quot;service&quot; corps, like Nazi Germany once did.  You could deny that the Democratic Party is the party of drafting and enslaving people.  You could pretend that Democrat Rangel&#039;s attempts, which never had a chance while Republicans were in power, bear no connection to any &quot;Obama plot&quot;, even though they stand a slightly better chance of being passed (and signed) now, on Obama&#039;s and the Democrats&#039; watch.

Just trying to help with a constructive suggestion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. While you&#8217;re at it, ADD &#8211; Why don&#8217;t you also try to minimize the fact that for years now, Charlie Rangel, *D* &#8211; New York, has been entering bills in the House to bring back the draft?</p>
<p>You could deny that there&#8217;s any similarity than that and Obama&#8217;s announced hopes of creating a quasi-military, mandatory youth &#8220;service&#8221; corps, like Nazi Germany once did.  You could deny that the Democratic Party is the party of drafting and enslaving people.  You could pretend that Democrat Rangel&#8217;s attempts, which never had a chance while Republicans were in power, bear no connection to any &#8220;Obama plot&#8221;, even though they stand a slightly better chance of being passed (and signed) now, on Obama&#8217;s and the Democrats&#8217; watch.</p>
<p>Just trying to help with a constructive suggestion.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/17/ronald-reagans-stimulus/comment-page-1/#comment-358696</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More screeching ADD hate and insults.  Luv to see them true colors flyin&#039;, ADD.

You&#039;re right about one thing only: You did pull your usual &quot;Look over there!  An old mistake from a totally inconsequential Republican invalidates the correctness of TGC&#039;s prediction!&quot; bullsh*ts with some facts / links for once.  That is rare indeed, for you.  Consider that aspect acknowledged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More screeching ADD hate and insults.  Luv to see them true colors flyin&#8217;, ADD.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right about one thing only: You did pull your usual &#8220;Look over there!  An old mistake from a totally inconsequential Republican invalidates the correctness of TGC&#8217;s prediction!&#8221; bullsh*ts with some facts / links for once.  That is rare indeed, for you.  Consider that aspect acknowledged.</p>
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		<title>By: a different Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>a different Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a total load of crap - it has EVERYTHING to do with it.  Every time one of the diaper brigade on here whines about the left and example of the same sh*T from the right is brought up it&#039;s called changing the subject.  WTF is wrong with you?  Let me borrow the worn out mantra - the truth hurts.   And if you would learn how to read you would know that that WAS about 2009. Grow up.   The issue IS term limits and the ridiculous conspiracy theories blowing around the ring world.  Your 
BS analysis of my comments is meaningless.  Stop stroking and get a clue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a total load of crap &#8211; it has EVERYTHING to do with it.  Every time one of the diaper brigade on here whines about the left and example of the same sh*T from the right is brought up it&#8217;s called changing the subject.  WTF is wrong with you?  Let me borrow the worn out mantra &#8211; the truth hurts.   And if you would learn how to read you would know that that WAS about 2009. Grow up.   The issue IS term limits and the ridiculous conspiracy theories blowing around the ring world.  Your<br />
BS analysis of my comments is meaningless.  Stop stroking and get a clue.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/17/ronald-reagans-stimulus/comment-page-1/#comment-358677</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On term limits - from the right...&lt;/blockquote&gt;All of which has *ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WHATSOEVER* to do with the fact that, in this blog thread, and in this moment in 2009:

- TGC was right in predicting Democrats would want to lift them for the Dear Leader
- Rather than either acknowledge the point or answer the point, ADD stepped in with his standard no-class insults and &quot;Look over there!&quot; distractions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On term limits &#8211; from the right&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>All of which has *ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WHATSOEVER* to do with the fact that, in this blog thread, and in this moment in 2009:</p>
<p>- TGC was right in predicting Democrats would want to lift them for the Dear Leader<br />
- Rather than either acknowledge the point or answer the point, ADD stepped in with his standard no-class insults and &#8220;Look over there!&#8221; distractions.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/17/ronald-reagans-stimulus/comment-page-1/#comment-358662</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VK, i dont think i argued that at all. i guess i assumed that we were talking about deficit spending against the backdrop of a severe economic downturn, since the original post argued that roosevelt&#039;s spending had no effect on unemployment rates during the great depression. i limited my comments to facts regarding the unemployment rate during the 1930s, which simply dont square with GPW&#039;s argument. that&#039;s all i was trying to say. i certainly dont think i implied that government should spend massive amounts of money in perpetuity. a &quot;stimulus&quot; applied to an already growing economy would be...well...silly. 

it seems like the biggest difference of opinion we have is whether the 1938 spike in unemployment was caused by roosevelt balancing the budget in 1937, or by some other amalgamation of factors that you identify. regardless of the cause, unemployment continued to decline in subsequent years when roosevelt resumed deficit spending. on these facts, i just dont buy GPW&#039;s argument. be nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VK, i dont think i argued that at all. i guess i assumed that we were talking about deficit spending against the backdrop of a severe economic downturn, since the original post argued that roosevelt&#8217;s spending had no effect on unemployment rates during the great depression. i limited my comments to facts regarding the unemployment rate during the 1930s, which simply dont square with GPW&#8217;s argument. that&#8217;s all i was trying to say. i certainly dont think i implied that government should spend massive amounts of money in perpetuity. a &#8220;stimulus&#8221; applied to an already growing economy would be&#8230;well&#8230;silly. </p>
<p>it seems like the biggest difference of opinion we have is whether the 1938 spike in unemployment was caused by roosevelt balancing the budget in 1937, or by some other amalgamation of factors that you identify. regardless of the cause, unemployment continued to decline in subsequent years when roosevelt resumed deficit spending. on these facts, i just dont buy GPW&#8217;s argument. be nice.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read article in the WSJ, once, that the depression lasted into the 50s. Can&#039;t remember much else about the piece and don&#039;t want to spend the money to find it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read article in the WSJ, once, that the depression lasted into the 50s. Can&#8217;t remember much else about the piece and don&#8217;t want to spend the money to find it.</p>
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		<title>By: a different Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/17/ronald-reagans-stimulus/comment-page-1/#comment-358614</link>
		<dc:creator>a different Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On term limits - from the right.   These folks are Obama haters to the extreme, yet they are able to talk rationally about term limits.  Some of you should learn from it.

http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=783

&quot;In 1987, during Reaganâ€™s term of office, Earl Michener, R-Mich., also proposed a repeal of the 22nd Amendment.&quot;

http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=754

The second article is similar to what I said in a filtered comment.  According to the source that V posted Serrano has been doing this since 1997.  Hardly an Obama plot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On term limits &#8211; from the right.   These folks are Obama haters to the extreme, yet they are able to talk rationally about term limits.  Some of you should learn from it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=783" rel="nofollow">http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=783</a></p>
<p>&#8220;In 1987, during Reaganâ€™s term of office, Earl Michener, R-Mich., also proposed a repeal of the 22nd Amendment.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=754" rel="nofollow">http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=754</a></p>
<p>The second article is similar to what I said in a filtered comment.  According to the source that V posted Serrano has been doing this since 1997.  Hardly an Obama plot.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/17/ronald-reagans-stimulus/comment-page-1/#comment-358578</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read the whole thing, as they say.  But, for the click-challenged: Hoover&#039;s response to the 1929 recession was to

- hike taxes massively (Somin seems to omit this)
- sign the Smoot-Hawley tariff which destroyed international trade
- establish new government agencies to hand out loans and... bailouts
- hike &quot;relief&quot; spending and run deficits that we would now call &quot;stimulative&quot;.

Sound familiar?  Roosevelt merely extended and intensified Hoover&#039;s disastrous policies, and add some perverted new ones like the laws V talked about, where you&#039;d be prosecuted for giving consumers a better price on your product.

Another parallel to today: In the 1932 campaign, Roosevelt denounced Hoover for overspending and promised to enact a balanced budget.  In other words: Roosevelt basically lied, selling himself as a prudent centrist.  Would the latter remind you of anyone elected recently?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the whole thing, as they say.  But, for the click-challenged: Hoover&#8217;s response to the 1929 recession was to</p>
<p>- hike taxes massively (Somin seems to omit this)<br />
- sign the Smoot-Hawley tariff which destroyed international trade<br />
- establish new government agencies to hand out loans and&#8230; bailouts<br />
- hike &#8220;relief&#8221; spending and run deficits that we would now call &#8220;stimulative&#8221;.</p>
<p>Sound familiar?  Roosevelt merely extended and intensified Hoover&#8217;s disastrous policies, and add some perverted new ones like the laws V talked about, where you&#8217;d be prosecuted for giving consumers a better price on your product.</p>
<p>Another parallel to today: In the 1932 campaign, Roosevelt denounced Hoover for overspending and promised to enact a balanced budget.  In other words: Roosevelt basically lied, selling himself as a prudent centrist.  Would the latter remind you of anyone elected recently?</p>
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		<title>By: GayPatriotWest</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayPatriotWest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ilya Somin &lt;a href=&quot;http://volokh.com/posts/1232335004.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;explodes the myth&lt;/a&gt; that Hoover was a laissez-faire capitalist (via &lt;a href=&quot;http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/66787/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Instapundit&lt;/a&gt;) and notes some of the ways he promoted federal intervention into the economy ostensibly to forestall the emerging depression.  Instead, his policies seem to have exacerbated it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ilya Somin <a href="http://volokh.com/posts/1232335004.shtml" rel="nofollow">explodes the myth</a> that Hoover was a laissez-faire capitalist (via <a href="http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/66787/" rel="nofollow">Instapundit</a>) and notes some of the ways he promoted federal intervention into the economy ostensibly to forestall the emerging depression.  Instead, his policies seem to have exacerbated it.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And is it just me, or do Democrats basically long for feudalism?&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, which is why so many of the rich are Democrats. Socialist policies essentially freeze everyone into whatever social class they are born into. Hence, the rich and privileged don&#039;t have to worry about losing their status to up-and-coming entrepreneurs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And is it just me, or do Democrats basically long for feudalism?</i></p>
<p>Yes, which is why so many of the rich are Democrats. Socialist policies essentially freeze everyone into whatever social class they are born into. Hence, the rich and privileged don&#8217;t have to worry about losing their status to up-and-coming entrepreneurs.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/17/ronald-reagans-stimulus/comment-page-1/#comment-358549</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And is it just me, or do Democrats basically long for feudalism?  By the time all their laws, regulations, taxes and controls are in effect, one&#039;s &quot;job&quot; is basically an entitlement - that one is probably undeserving of and damn lucky to have, and for which one is dependent on political connections to Democrats.  Ordinary job creation among consenting private citizens becomes a near impossibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And is it just me, or do Democrats basically long for feudalism?  By the time all their laws, regulations, taxes and controls are in effect, one&#8217;s &#8220;job&#8221; is basically an entitlement &#8211; that one is probably undeserving of and damn lucky to have, and for which one is dependent on political connections to Democrats.  Ordinary job creation among consenting private citizens becomes a near impossibility.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/01/17/ronald-reagans-stimulus/comment-page-1/#comment-358548</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right.  Social Security taxes were another of FDR&#039;s job-busting measures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right.  Social Security taxes were another of FDR&#8217;s job-busting measures.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Chad is arguing is essentially that FDR should have continued his massive deficit spending in perpetuity, rather than stop intervening and let the markets right themselves. Logic says that such massive deficits are unsustainable... especially at the pace the Democrats are proposing. The only possible endgame is default or/and hyperinflation. 

Chad also leaves out that in 1936, FDR raised marginal tax rates to 79% of income, and the Social Security payroll tax began in 1937. Those probably had a pretty big impact on unemployment in 1937.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Chad is arguing is essentially that FDR should have continued his massive deficit spending in perpetuity, rather than stop intervening and let the markets right themselves. Logic says that such massive deficits are unsustainable&#8230; especially at the pace the Democrats are proposing. The only possible endgame is default or/and hyperinflation. </p>
<p>Chad also leaves out that in 1936, FDR raised marginal tax rates to 79% of income, and the Social Security payroll tax began in 1937. Those probably had a pretty big impact on unemployment in 1937.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further in Wiki:&lt;blockquote&gt;The Roosevelt Administration reacted [to the Roosevelt Recession] by launching a rhetorical campaign against monopoly power... [it] was not [economically] effective, and the attack ended once World War II began and corporate energies had to be directed to winning the war... employment did not regain the 1937 level until the war boom began in late 1940.&lt;/blockquote&gt;With the Depression proper ending in 1943, according to most economists.  Roosevelt took a severe recession and, by terrible policy, stretched it out for 10 years until only a World War finally ended it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further in Wiki:<br />
<blockquote>The Roosevelt Administration reacted [to the Roosevelt Recession] by launching a rhetorical campaign against monopoly power&#8230; [it] was not [economically] effective, and the attack ended once World War II began and corporate energies had to be directed to winning the war&#8230; employment did not regain the 1937 level until the war boom began in late 1940.</p></blockquote>
<p>With the Depression proper ending in 1943, according to most economists.  Roosevelt took a severe recession and, by terrible policy, stretched it out for 10 years until only a World War finally ended it.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GPW, don&#039;t forget Hoover&#039;s punitive income tax increases - later intensified by Roosevelt.&lt;blockquote&gt;in 1938, unemployment spiked up to 19% after roosevelt decreased spending in order to balance the budget.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Nope.  First, remember unemployment is a lagging indicator; it began spiking in 1937, peaking early in 1938.  (As Wikipedia puts it, &quot;personal income was only 15% lower than it had been at the peak in 1937&quot;.  Only!!!)  Second, its cause wasn&#039;t Roosevelt cutting the budget; its cause was the anti-freedom and anti-production policies Roosevelt had been following throughout the Depression, making it a &#039;Great&#039; one.  See #15 by V the K, and #16 by John W.&lt;blockquote&gt;in subsequent years, the spending remained high and unemployment continued to decline&lt;/blockquote&gt;Yeah... like the 1940s, with World War 2.  (No thanks on having a repeat, BTW.)

The Roosevelt Administration was, economically, the worst in United States history.  They intensified bad policies of Hoover and added more of their own, stretching out the Depression to 1942-3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GPW, don&#8217;t forget Hoover&#8217;s punitive income tax increases &#8211; later intensified by Roosevelt.<br />
<blockquote>in 1938, unemployment spiked up to 19% after roosevelt decreased spending in order to balance the budget.</p></blockquote>
<p>Nope.  First, remember unemployment is a lagging indicator; it began spiking in 1937, peaking early in 1938.  (As Wikipedia puts it, &#8220;personal income was only 15% lower than it had been at the peak in 1937&#8243;.  Only!!!)  Second, its cause wasn&#8217;t Roosevelt cutting the budget; its cause was the anti-freedom and anti-production policies Roosevelt had been following throughout the Depression, making it a &#8216;Great&#8217; one.  See #15 by V the K, and #16 by John W.<br />
<blockquote>in subsequent years, the spending remained high and unemployment continued to decline</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah&#8230; like the 1940s, with World War 2.  (No thanks on having a repeat, BTW.)</p>
<p>The Roosevelt Administration was, economically, the worst in United States history.  They intensified bad policies of Hoover and added more of their own, stretching out the Depression to 1942-3.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;TGC, if you dared to take an honest look in the mirror you would see a screeching liberal in the week leading up to Wâ€™s taking office. You look just as ridiculous and are just as completely wrong. Itâ€™s too bad that our tradition of the people electing their President is so disturbing to you. Four years is a lot of Depends, maybe you should just get over it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wha....?? Sorry. I can&#039;t read dumbass. Once more, in English, please.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Obama may well lose Pakistan to Islamists,&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s pronounced &lt;b&gt;Pock-eeee-stahn&lt;/b&gt;, you racist bigot! :-P


&lt;blockquote&gt; But trickle &lt;b&gt;up&lt;/b&gt; poverty, as proposed by Comrade Obamam, will save us all, eh?

&lt;blockquote&gt;increased the poor in this country to where theyâ€™ve never recovered...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And the liberal&#039;s &quot;war on poverty&quot;, which has taken 40+ years and trillions of dollars has done....what...exactly?


Here, I&#039;ll make it simple for you. Why are liberal bastions like California, New Orleans, Detroit, NYC etc. full of poor people? Why do liberals shove them out of the way (Denver, DC etc) before their limousines arrive? If liberalism is so f*cking great, why are they ass deep in po&#039; folks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>TGC, if you dared to take an honest look in the mirror you would see a screeching liberal in the week leading up to Wâ€™s taking office. You look just as ridiculous and are just as completely wrong. Itâ€™s too bad that our tradition of the people electing their President is so disturbing to you. Four years is a lot of Depends, maybe you should just get over it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Wha&#8230;.?? Sorry. I can&#8217;t read dumbass. Once more, in English, please.</p>
<blockquote><p>Obama may well lose Pakistan to Islamists,</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s pronounced <b>Pock-eeee-stahn</b>, you racist bigot! <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<blockquote><p> But trickle <b>up</b> poverty, as proposed by Comrade Obamam, will save us all, eh?</p>
<blockquote><p>increased the poor in this country to where theyâ€™ve never recovered&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>And the liberal&#8217;s &#8220;war on poverty&#8221;, which has taken 40+ years and trillions of dollars has done&#8230;.what&#8230;exactly?</p>
<p>Here, I&#8217;ll make it simple for you. Why are liberal bastions like California, New Orleans, Detroit, NYC etc. full of poor people? Why do liberals shove them out of the way (Denver, DC etc) before their limousines arrive? If liberalism is so f*cking great, why are they ass deep in po&#8217; folks?</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: GayPatriotWest</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayPatriotWest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have more to say about this as soon as I get to &lt;a hef=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Forgotten-Man-History-Great-Depression/dp/0066211700&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Amity Shlaes&#039;s book&lt;/a&gt;.  Too tired now (it&#039;s almost 1 AM here in LA) to comment further.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have more to say about this as soon as I get to <a hef="http://www.amazon.com/Forgotten-Man-History-Great-Depression/dp/0066211700" rel="nofollow">Amity Shlaes&#8217;s book</a>.  Too tired now (it&#8217;s almost 1 AM here in LA) to comment further.</p>
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