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Did Obama Campaign on a 10% Defense Cut?

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Well, we’ve found one area of the federal budget President Obama doesn’t want to increase. “The Obama administration has asked the military’s Joint Chiefs of Staff to cut the Pentagon’s budget request for the fiscal year 2010 by more than 10 percent — about $55 billion.”

Now, I’m not aware of the Democratic nominee campaigning last fall on cutting the defense budget. In the first debate, focusing on foreign policy/national security issues, he all but echoed John McCain, assuring voters that there wouldn’t be much of a difference between the two men on defense. Now, we see there is.  A huge one.  Huge.

As Environmental Republican put it, “he’s cutting the military budget…in the midst of two wars.“  Let me repeat, cutting the military budget in the midst of two wars.  Now, I’m beginning to wonder if the president understands the commander-in-chief aspects of his job.

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  2. Our enemies are smelling weakness

    – Venezuela-Iran Terror Network Growing in Latin America

    – Ahmadinejad Demands U.S. Apology For ‘Crimes’ Against Iran

    – Iran calls for US to end support of Israel

    – North Korea tears up agreements

    – North Korea says plutonium “weaponized” and off-limits

    – Fidel Castro demands Obama return Guantanamo base

    – Chavez tells Obama to give Guantanamo back to Cuba

  3. Did Obama Campaign on a 10% Defense Cut?

    Not directly, perhaps, but one can’t help but conclude that he campaigned on castrating the military and the U.S.

    First, I’ll stop spending $9 billion a month in Iraq. I’m the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning. And as president I will end it.[ie, not *win* it]

    Second, I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending.

    I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.

    I will not weaponize space.

    I will slow our development of future combat systems.

    And I will institute an independent “Defense Priorities Board” to ensure that the Quadrennial Defense Review is not used to justify unnecessary spending.

    Third, I will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons. To seek that goal, I will not develop new nuclear weapons; I will seek a global ban on the production of fissile material; and I will negotiate with Russia to take our ICBMs off hair-trigger alert, and to achieve deep cuts in our nuclear arsenals.

    When he says that he will slow the development of future combat systems, he’s saying that he will not spend a dime on giving our military the tools they need.

    He says that he will not “weaponize space”. Meanwhile, the Chinese and a slew of other countries are racing forward to do so. Remember when the ChiComms shot down one of our satellites? Chairman Obama wants them to get a leg up on us.

    So yeah, he campaigned on castrating the military and cutting our defenses by at least 10%. What’s more, it would be asinine to suggest that that’s as far as he would go.

  4. Now, I’m beginning to wonder if the president understands the commander-in-chief aspects of his job.

    Understand it? He doesnt NEED to understand it. Obama is an arrogant ideologue who has publicly stated he thinks the constitution flawed because it doesnt give the federal government enough power over the individual and tells the commanders of war the way its going to be before he even meets with them.

    Did he campaign on it? Of course not! He hid it, obfuscated and lied about it to the general public, even though he was on tape promising to do just that to his left wing nutroots.

  7. This is only the beginning. No he does not understand. As far as he is concerned he has been elected and he can do what he wants. You may not have heard it but he was campaigning against the military. I am not surprised by this action nor am I suprised that it was released on a Friday night. Please remember he came from the same Chicago machine as Blago.

  8. So, the Dear One is sending 30,000 more troops into Afghanistan while gutting the budget that supplies them with training, supplies, armor, weapons, and intelligence.

    Way to support the troops, Chairman Zero.

  9. While this turd is dining on $100-a-pound Wegyu steaks at the White House, he’s telling our men and women in uniform that they will just have to get by with less.

    His uber-Marxist stripes have come out, and even I am surprised it happened this fast.

  12. Obama is a community organizer. Let us all understand exactly what that means. America is the community and each of us is the “organizee.” We are now being organized.

    Those in the politburo do the central planning and channel the programs. They are given a higher level of attention and favor because they are essential to the organization process.

    Those outside the politburo are the general “organizees.” They are the recipients of the community organization. Their product is the raw material of the community organization process. Each “organizee” produces what he will and in turn receives what he needs as determined by the politiburo, acting as the machinery of community organization.

    Since the politburo can only distribute what it collects and prints out of thin air, the needs envisioned by the “organizee” and the reality of what can be provided may be vastly different.

    The military is a huge devourer of resources. One armored vehicle could provide a great deal of small packages of support for the politburo and the general commuity organization process if it is distributed strategically to certain pockets of “organizees”.

    The ACORN Army is far more important to the community organization strategy and defense of the community organization system than the Department of Defense. In the grand scheme of things, who is going to want to conquer a failed economy which is mired in debt? Canada?

    There are many years of high living for the politburo before their community organization reaches the level of Cuba. The long period of stagnation and decline in France is the better model to study. France has a nuclear aircraft carrier it can not afford to get running again and it has not yet decided to dismantle. France putters along on the memory of its past and a blind eye to its dying future.

    The community organization of the United States is ceding the Pacific to the Chinese. Without the United States, there are no teeth in NATO. The Community Organizer in Chief made it clear that we will not weaponize space. “Weaponize” has the same possibility for broad definition as “torture.” Spying from space could easily be considered a form of weaponization. (“Open covenants, openly arrived at” and all other such League of Nations high minded taffy pulling and fudge making.)

    For the true community organizer, the military need not be much more than Hamas, the Egyptian Brotherhood, La Raza, Friends of Che, the SDS, ACORN, the Weatherman or any group of determined Obamanauts.

    The role of defense is for the system, not the country. For the community organizer, the system trumps nationality.

  13. Leftist Democrats do what they do. Carter, Clinton and now Obama gutt the military. We are weaker for it. We get attacked and taken advantage of. (Iranian hostage crisis, Carter/ Cole and embassy bombings and WTC #1, Clinton). It is then left up to Republican Presidents to reassert American power (Reagan/Bush 41&43)
    Democrats feel the attacks can be sustained and are regretable but social programs are more important to their base.
    But Republican Presidents FREE oppressed peoples. Eastern Europe and 50 Million Arabs and Muslims. It is funny how conservative Republicans are viewed as the selfish ones.

  15. I heard one of Obama’s speeches in which he promised to cut the military by 25%. Clinton cut our military exactly in half. Did Bush do anything to increase our military? I doubt it. I work for the US Navy, and our budget has been cut dramatically every year.

    If we just get rid our military altogether, then we can use part of the savings to pay our enemies to not attack us, and the rest to pay the energy bill at the White House.

  18. Now, I’m beginning to wonder if the president understands the commander-in-chief aspects of his job.

    And I’m beginning to think YOU don’t understand what a budget deficit is. It’s this type of mentality that got us into our current budget mess. You went out an supported a war against a country that posed no imminent threat to the United States and instead of doing the responsible thing, paying for it with tax increases or budget cuts, you put it on credit. Yes, the Defense Department’s budget counts towards our overall budget. And no, the Defense Department’s budget can not be untouchable if you ever want a balanced budget someday. This blog is so awash in contradictions.

  19. And I’m beginning to think YOU don’t understand what a budget deficit is. It’s this type of mentality that got us into our current budget mess.

    Comment by Erik — January 31, 2009 @ 2:40 pm – January 31, 2009

    Simple question for you, Erik. Since the budget deficit is obviously important to you, do you support the current “stimulus” package?

  20. So, Erik cheers as his president proposes to run up a Trillion dollars in deficit spending on phony stimulus, but now he’s whistling the tune of “fiscal responsibility” as his president guts the military. Then, he accuses this blog of being awash in contradictions?

    Here’s a clue for the clueless. National defense is a vital interest of the federal government; 5 billion dollar grants to ACORN, car-crushing programs, remodeling Federal offices, and bailing out fiscally irresponsible states is not.

  21. Good! At least he has proven he can cut SOMETHING.

    // sacasm off //

    In all seriousness, you could probably cut even more from the military and still have the same strength. There must be at lest that much administrative waste in that department. I ultimately agree with you Erik, but would you feel the same if the cuts were also made in social security or Medicare? I don’t thing anyone knows the scope of the disaster we are heading toward, but no one on the right or left will be willing to give up shoveling cash to their sacred cows.

  22. I agree the military should be cut. Currently we have about 750 bases worldwide (63 countries) with over 250,000 personnel deployed in a total of 156 countries (2008 estimates).

  23. If the cuts were based on us pulling out of Europe and letting those fat, lazy bastards see their own defense, I’d support it. But they won’t. These cuts will come at the expense of the readiness, material support, and quality of armaments provided to our forces.

    Meanwhile, Pelosi, Obama, and Reid will spend billions to buy up and crush SUVs, carbon capture “contests,” abortions, mafia museums, green energy projects that will go nowhere, and bailouts to financially irresponsible states and cities.

    My question is, when taxes are jacked up to pay for Obama’s Trillion dollar deficits, will Tim Geithner, Charlie Rangel, and Tom Daschle pay them?

  24. I wonder if the RNC has any job openings? I want to come home and get out of Europe!

    yes Ignatius a few bases could be closed here in Europe, that would help, now that Europe loves us again.

  25. The problem is, only Democratic administrations seem willing to cut defense spending and if successful, we all know where the savings will be spent. It’s a no-win all around. Of all issues, this is the one that most tempts me to mark the (L) box on ballots.

  27. Perhaps, allowing the OIL RICH sovereign nation we are occupying (and illegally, IMO, invaded) take control of their own country, we will save some money? Gee, seems like a good idea to me. Then maybe we can strengthen our DEFENSE BUDGET and bolster our Special Ops who are better at sniffing out and destroying terrorists than cluster bombs will ever be.

  28. Maybe the Democrats want to punish the military for winning in Iraq, and making them look stupid for declaring the war lost.

    George Soros, MoveOn, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, and the people who live in Nanny Pelosi’s home district may hate the US military, but most Americans don’t. Blue dog Democrats may be reluctant to give this one to the Dear Leader, especially after knuckling under on his Trillion dollar spending binge.

  29. V the K is right. If leftists pay their taxes at the same rate as the current Obama Administration…we could probably balance the federal budget simply by going after the Democrat tax cheats and scofflaws.
    Some of the liberals on this blog need to be educated. If there was ONE thing the federal govt did according to the constitution it would be to PROTECT AND DEFEND the people from external aggression. Simple. How did we get to the point where liberals think that that is not essential and is open for debate and the place to slash spending so we can provide bike paths in CO, and free breakfasts to children in NY?

  30. I’d like to take this opportunity to (maybe Tim will join me) congratulate the American armed services for the victory in Iraq. Another smooth violence free election today in Iraq. Good job Pres Bush on a job well done. 50 Million freed Iraquis and Afgans who are no longer a threat to kill American women and families. The first arab democracy in the mid east. What an accomplishment. I’m sure all Americans no matter what their party will rejoice in such a victory for mankind! Anpther friendly oil producer in the mid east to help solidify our economy. The benefits are endless. Again congrats to the fighting men and women of the armed serivices.

  31. Timothy is still enraged over seeing the brown people who he and his Obama Party think are their inferiors engaging in democracy, instead of reporting to a tyrannical dictator who controlled all media, who banned opposition parties, and who surrounded himself and his cronies with luxuries even while people starved to death outside his palace walls.

    Barack Obama WISHES he could be Saddam Hussein.

  32. I heard today that Sadam Hussein in his last election got 100% of the Iraqui vote. Damn I didn’t know he was such a good Democrat. Did he receive his training in Chicago as well?
    And NDT I do remember that during the Iraq war vote, it was Dems who said “hey the Arabs don’t know how to do democracy, it will never work.” It was the liberal Dems who thought Arabs and Muslims were too stupid to be able to govern themselves without a dictator. Once again thanks to President Bush and the American armed services, freedom rings in the middle east. Let’s see if yesterdays election in Iraq has gone better than the recent election in ……..(wait for it)………Minnesota!

  33. Back in mid-90’s the Dems disengenously caterwauled about “cuts” (and even “slashes”) to Medicaid when the Reps suggested nothing other than slowing the rate of growth. It is simply wrong to label reduced growth — of any part of the budget — a “cut”. You’re better than that GP.

  34. Back in the mid-90’s the Dems disingenously caterwauled about “cuts” and other dastardly things the Reps were doing to Medicare. Of course, they were referring to proposals to slow the rate of increase of the Medicare budget. We can disagree with the policy choices, but we need to stick to good arguments.

  35. Lessee. Where to begin:

    And I’m beginning to think YOU don’t understand what a budget deficit is.

    Says the clown who supports the Affirmative Action president’s plan to throw out trillions of dollars to everyone.

    It’s this type of mentality that got us into our current budget mess.

    Forcing lenders to accept unemployment and foodstamps as “income” had absolutely nothing to do with it. The fact that Henry Waxman refuses to investigate that matter proves it.

    You went out an supported a war against a country that posed no imminent threat to the United States

    Yeah, who believes those pesky calls to attack American interests anyway?

    and instead of doing the responsible thing, paying for it with tax increases or budget cuts, you put it on credit.

    Tax increases which have been shown to retard cash flow. Somehow, record revenues to the treasury just doesn’t get it when the Proles should be punished. One would think that Geitner, Daschle etc. Would be the first to show how it’s done.

    with over 250,000 personnel deployed in a total of 156 countries (2008 estimates).

    I’ll be damned. I thought we were supposed to believe that ALL of our servince personnel were in Iraq. Are you sure that’s right?

    Perhaps, allowing the OIL RICH sovereign nation we are occupying

    You mean the United States? I agree. We could make almost $2 TRILLION and add thousands of new jobs if liberals would let us drill for oil and it won’t take 7-10 years to make that money either.

    Gee, seems like a good idea to me.

    Me too, not to mention the majority of Americans. However, you support the party that gives the middle finger to the American people and goes on summer vacation instead of doing “the will of the people” as promissed.

    Then maybe we can strengthen our DEFENSE BUDGET

    Oh if only liberals gave a shit about our defense budget, I might be inclined to say that you’re on to something.

    and bolster our Special Ops who are better at sniffing out and destroying terrorists than cluster bombs will ever be.

    Well, we saw what liberals think of SF during the Mog when they were denied the equipment and support they requested. Here’s an idea, why not ask these guys if they think liberals give a royal fuck about SF?

    MSG Gary Gordon
    SFC Randy Shugart
    SSG Daniel Busch
    SFC Daniel Filmore
    SFC Matt Rierson
    MSG Tim Martin
    CPL Jamie Smith
    SPC James Cavaco
    SGT Cayce Joyce
    SGT Dominick Pila

    etc.etc. etc.

    You get those guys to tell us how much liberals support SF, and I might be inclined to support it, Hell, I’ll make it easier. Get CWO Michael Durant to tell us how much liberals love SF.

    It was the liberal Dems who thought Arabs and Muslims were too stupid to be able to govern themselves without a dictator.

    And it was Joe Biden who supported Segregation in Iraq.

  39. Its becoming very clear Obama, despite all his rhetoric is an insecure, petty, hyper-partisan SOB. He still refuses to give credit to the Bush administration for the success of the surge. Ronald Reagan, to whom Obama compared himself (what great historical figure has Obama NOT compared himself to?) once said its amazing what you can achieve if you don’t care who gets the credit. Obama, ever the anti-Reagan, is constantly taking credit for things he had nothing to do with. (he claimed to be on committees he was never on, he popped in for photo ops at signing ceremonies for legislation he had nothing to do with, he’s already claimed iraq turned around because of his opposition, etc…)

    I almost expect that he and his hacks are working on some sort of propaganda campaign to make him the man who turned Iraq into a victory.

    So, really? Who’s looking good for 2012? Can we start the campaign yet?

  42. LOL! What a bunch of whiners here. It’s going to be a LONG, LONG decade for you folks. But you deserve it all.

    Why does the GOP hate America? Why do repugnants have no patriotism?

  43. 2012? LOL. THe earliest you can even think about being anything but the obstructionist and minority party is 2016. Then again the old anti-choice, tax-cut platforms are so passe it may be 2020 before the GOP is taken seriously.

    Really, your pathetic attempts at smearing the commander-in-chief are sad.

  45. I don’t understand how you can all bash the only president so far who’s cared enough about any of you to give you the rights that you deserve, despite what 52% of America thinks of your “lifestyle”, just because he has the brains to pull out of a war that we should never have started in the first place with a bunch of desert rats who Bush should have just had the back bone to nuke a long time ago instead of treating the middle east like a long butchering line to slaughter our troops like cattle one by one. You should have your status as homosexual patriots official revoked because you are a disgrace to gay people everywhere. Just 6 years ago you could have been imprisoned for having consenting sex with your partner. (Lawrence v. Texas, 2003) THAT’S the war you should be fighting. A real patriot would be fighting for equality in his own country first. Which made a big societal impact on America? The Civil Rights Movement or the Vietnam War?

  47. A real patriot would be fighting for equality in his own country first.

    Oddly enough, I already have the same legal protection against discrimination in the workplace as do straight people, the same penalty being applied to crimes against me as would be applied to crimes against straight people, and the same limitations on marriage as do straight people.

    Perhaps Lessbean’s problem is that it considers it unequal to have the same, and equal to have special protections that allow it to carry out its sexual affairs in the workplace, have higher penalties assessed against people who carry out crimes against it, and the right to marry whatever it wants to have sex with without limitations that is denied to straight people.

  48. Hey, Ohionut, what is the anti-choice in the Republican platform you are talking about? We believe in school choice. We believe in free enterprise. We believe human life is worth protecting and being allowed to live, even though Nancy Pelosi favors killing babies because they may be a drain on the economy. We believe in an all volunteer military where people take the greater risk of being killed rather than yanking the unwilling from off the street through a draft system. We believe in keeping our hands off people’s bodies by not banning salt, sugar, fast food, carbs, and other choices free people make. We are not in favor of silencing political speech. We are not on a rampage against people of religious belief. We are not favoring a policy of redistributing wealth by way of holding the government gun to a person’s head.

    Oh, and Ohionut, show me the plan for taxing people into prosperity. Certainly you have a viable model tucked away in your certain mind.

  50. I think OHnut is one of those people who gets some kind of catharsis by spewing insults and dumb talking points at people he doesn’t agree with but is too gutless to face in person. Trying to engage him is futile, but refuting his talking points is useful to those who read the comments and have some synapses that work.

  51. YOU ARE ALL WRONG. Obama is increasing defense spending. See Glenn Greenwald’s story today at Salon.com, which totally debunks the myth you’re all getting into a tizzy about.