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		<title>By: GayPatriotWest</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/02/01/joe-biden-barometer-for-conventional-wisdom-of-left/comment-page-1/#comment-371183</link>
		<dc:creator>GayPatriotWest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 07:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stewart in #13, you have got to be kidding me.  Joe Biden, honest as they come?  


Did you watch the vice-presidential debate where he &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YjU0ZWU3YTcxODcyMDA1NzBjZmE1ZDg0NjJhOTFkMTE=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rattled off a string of falsehoods and gasbaggeries.&lt;/a&gt;&quot;  (Follow that link to get a flavor of his falsehoods.)  Here&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122325448093406451.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;another piece&lt;/a&gt; addressing his problems with the truth in that debate.


I&#039;ll grant you that he&#039;s a nice guy.  I&#039;ve met him and appreciate his kindness and decency, but he is a total Washington Insider.  Can you give an example of where he&#039;s offered an insight at odds with his Democratic peers?  

I think you&#039;re mistaking his kindness for intelligence and leadership.  And ignoring all his gaffes, primarily examples of him trying too hard to ingratiate himself with purveyors of the conventional wisdom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stewart in #13, you have got to be kidding me.  Joe Biden, honest as they come?  </p>
<p>Did you watch the vice-presidential debate where he &#8220;<a href="http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YjU0ZWU3YTcxODcyMDA1NzBjZmE1ZDg0NjJhOTFkMTE=" rel="nofollow">rattled off a string of falsehoods and gasbaggeries.</a>&#8221;  (Follow that link to get a flavor of his falsehoods.)  Here&#8217;s <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122325448093406451.html" rel="nofollow">another piece</a> addressing his problems with the truth in that debate.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll grant you that he&#8217;s a nice guy.  I&#8217;ve met him and appreciate his kindness and decency, but he is a total Washington Insider.  Can you give an example of where he&#8217;s offered an insight at odds with his Democratic peers?  </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re mistaking his kindness for intelligence and leadership.  And ignoring all his gaffes, primarily examples of him trying too hard to ingratiate himself with purveyors of the conventional wisdom.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ann Coulter had the perfect epigram for the nomination of Joe Biden as VP:  assassination insurance.

&#039;Nuff said.

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann Coulter had the perfect epigram for the nomination of Joe Biden as VP:  assassination insurance.</p>
<p>&#8216;Nuff said.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: Mokey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mokey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 23:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because I don&#039;t think that Biden would be a good VP, doesn&#039;t mean that I believe that Cheney was a good choice for Bush&#039;s VP.  I am so tired of being accused that if I am not supporting either a candidate or a political position that I am automatically FOR the opposing side!  I never thought Cheney was a good choice, although I did vote for Bush both times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because I don&#8217;t think that Biden would be a good VP, doesn&#8217;t mean that I believe that Cheney was a good choice for Bush&#8217;s VP.  I am so tired of being accused that if I am not supporting either a candidate or a political position that I am automatically FOR the opposing side!  I never thought Cheney was a good choice, although I did vote for Bush both times.</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
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		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/02/01/joe-biden-barometer-for-conventional-wisdom-of-left/comment-page-1/#comment-364757</link>
		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Biden reminds me of Coach from Cheers without the common sense. Obama is Sam without the humility. They make a great teamâ€“for bartenders.&lt;/blockquote&gt;...and Michelle is Dianne or Carla in this scenario?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Biden reminds me of Coach from Cheers without the common sense. Obama is Sam without the humility. They make a great teamâ€“for bartenders.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;and Michelle is Dianne or Carla in this scenario?</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/02/01/joe-biden-barometer-for-conventional-wisdom-of-left/comment-page-1/#comment-364755</link>
		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Stewart, 

You didnt debunk squat. Indeed, youre the only one lying here. 

To illustrate it, let&#039;s quote what you so conveniently left out, which was Gwen Ifill&#039;s question to Palin, defining the nature of their disagreement, to which Biden was responding:&lt;blockquote&gt;IFILL: Governor, you mentioned a moment ago the constitution might give the vice president more power than it has in the past. Do you believe as Vice President Cheney does, that the Executive Branch does not hold complete sway over the office of the vice presidency, &lt;b&gt;that it it is also a member of the Legislative Branch?&lt;/b&gt;

BIDEN: Vice President Cheney has been the most dangerous vice president we&#039;ve had probably in American history. The idea he doesn&#039;t realize that Article I of the Constitution defines the role of the vice president of the United States, &lt;b&gt;that&#039;s the Executive Branch&lt;/b&gt;. He works in the Executive Branch. He should understand that. Everyone should understand that.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Biden was clearly trying to rebut the idea that the Vice President is part of the legislative branch by claiming Article 1, which establishes and defines the legislative branch, is actually concerned with the executive. 

And sorry, Biden was flat wrong about the nature of the vice presidency as well. The VP&#039;s only constitutional role in the executive it to sit around and wait for the president to kick the bucket or get shot. Which is, no role at all, unless he chooses to take on other roles individual presidents request him to. But Article I gives him a DAILY role as president of the Senate. It is only because he delegates this duty to the President Pro Temore (in lieu of) that he is able to perform any functions for the president. 

Your ill informed argument is akin to arguing the Speaker of the House is really not part of the House because he or she is third in line of succession.

By the way, I&#039;d also point out that it is precisely because of his role as President of the Senate that it is the Speaker of the House, and the Vice President, not the Majority leader, who sit behind the president at the state of the union. That way the heads of all three elected bodies are represented.

Now go read your constitution again. You have much to learn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Stewart, </p>
<p>You didnt debunk squat. Indeed, youre the only one lying here. </p>
<p>To illustrate it, let&#8217;s quote what you so conveniently left out, which was Gwen Ifill&#8217;s question to Palin, defining the nature of their disagreement, to which Biden was responding:<br />
<blockquote>IFILL: Governor, you mentioned a moment ago the constitution might give the vice president more power than it has in the past. Do you believe as Vice President Cheney does, that the Executive Branch does not hold complete sway over the office of the vice presidency, <b>that it it is also a member of the Legislative Branch?</b></p>
<p>BIDEN: Vice President Cheney has been the most dangerous vice president we&#8217;ve had probably in American history. The idea he doesn&#8217;t realize that Article I of the Constitution defines the role of the vice president of the United States, <b>that&#8217;s the Executive Branch</b>. He works in the Executive Branch. He should understand that. Everyone should understand that.</p></blockquote>
<p>Biden was clearly trying to rebut the idea that the Vice President is part of the legislative branch by claiming Article 1, which establishes and defines the legislative branch, is actually concerned with the executive. </p>
<p>And sorry, Biden was flat wrong about the nature of the vice presidency as well. The VP&#8217;s only constitutional role in the executive it to sit around and wait for the president to kick the bucket or get shot. Which is, no role at all, unless he chooses to take on other roles individual presidents request him to. But Article I gives him a DAILY role as president of the Senate. It is only because he delegates this duty to the President Pro Temore (in lieu of) that he is able to perform any functions for the president. </p>
<p>Your ill informed argument is akin to arguing the Speaker of the House is really not part of the House because he or she is third in line of succession.</p>
<p>By the way, I&#8217;d also point out that it is precisely because of his role as President of the Senate that it is the Speaker of the House, and the Vice President, not the Majority leader, who sit behind the president at the state of the union. That way the heads of all three elected bodies are represented.</p>
<p>Now go read your constitution again. You have much to learn.</p>
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		<title>By: GayPatriotWest</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayPatriotWest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 16:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stewart in #13, Here&#039;s what that article I says relevant to your comment, &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided.&lt;/a&gt;&quot;

I simply don&#039;t see how you can spin Biden&#039;s words to suggest he was saying Article I was not the Executive Branch.

And here&#039;s some more of what BIden said that you didn&#039;t quote: &quot;The only authority the vice president has from the legislative standpoint is the vote, only when there is a tie vote. He has no authority relative to the Congress.&quot;  No authority?  Doesn&#039;t the constitution define him as president of the Senate?

So, given the obsession some people have with hating Cheney (what&#039;s the opposite of love affair?), I guess we shouldn&#039;t be surprised when you don&#039;t correct yourself. 

(And since you&#039;ve said that no one on this blog corrects themselves, please indicate where we&#039;ve erred so we can fix any mistakes.)

All that said, would you please identify the particular error you&#039;re addressing in ILC&#039;s comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stewart in #13, Here&#8217;s what that article I says relevant to your comment, &#8220;<a href="http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html" rel="nofollow">The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided.</a>&#8221;</p>
<p>I simply don&#8217;t see how you can spin Biden&#8217;s words to suggest he was saying Article I was not the Executive Branch.</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s some more of what BIden said that you didn&#8217;t quote: &#8220;The only authority the vice president has from the legislative standpoint is the vote, only when there is a tie vote. He has no authority relative to the Congress.&#8221;  No authority?  Doesn&#8217;t the constitution define him as president of the Senate?</p>
<p>So, given the obsession some people have with hating Cheney (what&#8217;s the opposite of love affair?), I guess we shouldn&#8217;t be surprised when you don&#8217;t correct yourself. </p>
<p>(And since you&#8217;ve said that no one on this blog corrects themselves, please indicate where we&#8217;ve erred so we can fix any mistakes.)</p>
<p>All that said, would you please identify the particular error you&#8217;re addressing in ILC&#8217;s comment.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 15:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My impression is Obama thinks that if we leave, somehow the Iraqis are going to have an epiphany of peaceful coexistence among warring sects. Iâ€™ve seen zero evidence of that.&quot; â€“ Joe Biden, on Obamaâ€™s Iraq plan, September 13 2007</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My impression is Obama thinks that if we leave, somehow the Iraqis are going to have an epiphany of peaceful coexistence among warring sects. Iâ€™ve seen zero evidence of that.&#8221; â€“ Joe Biden, on Obamaâ€™s Iraq plan, September 13 2007</p>
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		<title>By: Ashpenaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashpenaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 15:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biden reminds me of Coach from Cheers without the common sense. Obama is Sam without the humility. They make a great team--for bartenders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biden reminds me of Coach from Cheers without the common sense. Obama is Sam without the humility. They make a great team&#8211;for bartenders.</p>
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		<title>By: heliotrope</title>
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		<dc:creator>heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 14:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ancient history here, but Joe Biden conducting a seminar on Natural Law in the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings was like listening to Alcee Hastings talk about judicial ethics.

Biden is not a wizened Senator, but he tries to play one. 

Littleletterpeople gillie notes that Biden declared Cheney to be  â€œone of the most dangerous vice presidentsâ€ and then failed to tell us who the other most dangerous vice presidents were and just what made Cheney so darn dangerous in the first place. Should we still hide from him? Is his aura still toxic and imbued with a long half-life?

I doubt that Biden is an idiot, but he has taken no positive action to remove his name from the &quot;certified fool&quot; list. Why wouldn&#039;t a fool be fairly dangerous if he were to get his hands on the controls?

If you had to choose who you would trust to bring this economy down for a soft landing on water with no motors working, would you choose Biden? Or Obama, for that matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ancient history here, but Joe Biden conducting a seminar on Natural Law in the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings was like listening to Alcee Hastings talk about judicial ethics.</p>
<p>Biden is not a wizened Senator, but he tries to play one. </p>
<p>Littleletterpeople gillie notes that Biden declared Cheney to be  â€œone of the most dangerous vice presidentsâ€ and then failed to tell us who the other most dangerous vice presidents were and just what made Cheney so darn dangerous in the first place. Should we still hide from him? Is his aura still toxic and imbued with a long half-life?</p>
<p>I doubt that Biden is an idiot, but he has taken no positive action to remove his name from the &#8220;certified fool&#8221; list. Why wouldn&#8217;t a fool be fairly dangerous if he were to get his hands on the controls?</p>
<p>If you had to choose who you would trust to bring this economy down for a soft landing on water with no motors working, would you choose Biden? Or Obama, for that matter.</p>
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		<title>By: PatriotMom</title>
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		<dc:creator>PatriotMom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 12:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those of us who lived in Pennsylvania knew all along about Joe Biden&#039;s incompetence.  We tried to tell people, but no one wanted to listen.  You are correct, he will be the comic relief of this administration,  However is this what we need?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those of us who lived in Pennsylvania knew all along about Joe Biden&#8217;s incompetence.  We tried to tell people, but no one wanted to listen.  You are correct, he will be the comic relief of this administration,  However is this what we need?</p>
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		<title>By: Stewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 10:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ilovecapitalism

Several of us enjoy debunking comments such as yours regarding the infamous Article 1 comment of Mr. Biden&#039;s from the VP debate with Palin. A note: It has been found that there is a love affair with Cheney, so it will not surprise to find that no one on this blog corrects themselves, however:

Actually, Biden was correct during the debate. Here&#039;s what he said.

BIDEN: &quot;Vice President Cheney has been the most dangerous vice president we&#039;ve had probably in American history. The idea he doesn&#039;t realize that Article I of the Constitution defines the role of the vice president of the United States, that&#039;s the Executive Branch. He works in the Executive Branch. He should understand that. Everyone should understand that.&quot;

[Cheney works in the Executive Branch, he should understand that, but Cheney made VP role his own]

Biden didn&#039;t say Article I defines the executive branch; he said Article I defines the role of vice president, an office that happens to be in the executive branch. And he&#039;s right; Article I is the only place in the document where the VP&#039;s role (president of the Senate) is defined. The mention of the VP in Article II deals with how the VP is elected and the line of succession. (It&#039;s this very lack of definition of the VP&#039;s role outside the Senate that allowed Cheney to make it up as he went along, but that seems to be okay here.)

Anyway, for what it&#039;s worth. And you can find this and other attempts at fibs on other sites. Enjoy your lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ilovecapitalism</p>
<p>Several of us enjoy debunking comments such as yours regarding the infamous Article 1 comment of Mr. Biden&#8217;s from the VP debate with Palin. A note: It has been found that there is a love affair with Cheney, so it will not surprise to find that no one on this blog corrects themselves, however:</p>
<p>Actually, Biden was correct during the debate. Here&#8217;s what he said.</p>
<p>BIDEN: &#8220;Vice President Cheney has been the most dangerous vice president we&#8217;ve had probably in American history. The idea he doesn&#8217;t realize that Article I of the Constitution defines the role of the vice president of the United States, that&#8217;s the Executive Branch. He works in the Executive Branch. He should understand that. Everyone should understand that.&#8221;</p>
<p>[Cheney works in the Executive Branch, he should understand that, but Cheney made VP role his own]</p>
<p>Biden didn&#8217;t say Article I defines the executive branch; he said Article I defines the role of vice president, an office that happens to be in the executive branch. And he&#8217;s right; Article I is the only place in the document where the VP&#8217;s role (president of the Senate) is defined. The mention of the VP in Article II deals with how the VP is elected and the line of succession. (It&#8217;s this very lack of definition of the VP&#8217;s role outside the Senate that allowed Cheney to make it up as he went along, but that seems to be okay here.)</p>
<p>Anyway, for what it&#8217;s worth. And you can find this and other attempts at fibs on other sites. Enjoy your lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Stewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 10:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL...you&#039;re fun. VP Joe Biden is brilliant. I love the man, people can&#039;t help it...he&#039;s as honest as a politician comes, is plain spoken, is well-respected in the US and abroad. He&#039;s one of the few politician to have stepped on Darfur soil. He is not an Washington insider, and that has always bothered people...makes them uncomfortable, probably kept him away from President. He doesn&#039;t speak that DC language. Loves just about everybody. Smart: Chair of Senate Judiciary and Foreign Relations Committees etc. He does speak with painful honesty, when many love that &quot;canned politico schpiel.&quot; In his many years of service...and loves to serve America, instilling the same in his family...he has contributed so much to others. To meet him in person, one never leaves without knowing he or she is valuable and valued. Joe Biden is a good man, an excellent VP, one of Obama&#039;s most loyal. I couldn&#039;t ask for anyone better than Joe Biden to have my back, the back of our President, and the back of the United States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL&#8230;you&#8217;re fun. VP Joe Biden is brilliant. I love the man, people can&#8217;t help it&#8230;he&#8217;s as honest as a politician comes, is plain spoken, is well-respected in the US and abroad. He&#8217;s one of the few politician to have stepped on Darfur soil. He is not an Washington insider, and that has always bothered people&#8230;makes them uncomfortable, probably kept him away from President. He doesn&#8217;t speak that DC language. Loves just about everybody. Smart: Chair of Senate Judiciary and Foreign Relations Committees etc. He does speak with painful honesty, when many love that &#8220;canned politico schpiel.&#8221; In his many years of service&#8230;and loves to serve America, instilling the same in his family&#8230;he has contributed so much to others. To meet him in person, one never leaves without knowing he or she is valuable and valued. Joe Biden is a good man, an excellent VP, one of Obama&#8217;s most loyal. I couldn&#8217;t ask for anyone better than Joe Biden to have my back, the back of our President, and the back of the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 08:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, typo, meant to say &quot;Later, by the reckoning of anyone who loves America, Biden was wrong to *oppose* the surge as he did.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, typo, meant to say &#8220;Later, by the reckoning of anyone who loves America, Biden was wrong to *oppose* the surge as he did.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 05:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I am not clear,&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There&#039;s a shock. Maybe if you got your shit for brains mucked out, you might have a chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I am not clear,</p></blockquote>
<p>There&#8217;s a shock. Maybe if you got your shit for brains mucked out, you might have a chance.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 05:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;While Biden served on the Senate Foreign Relations for decades, heâ€™s been wrong on nearly every significant foreign policy issue since he first took office.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Take Iraq.  By his and Obama&#039;s reckoning (not by mine), he was wrong to support Bush on the war.  Later, by the reckoning of anyone who loves America, Biden was wrong to support the surge.  And, by the reckoning of anyone who loves human life, he was wrong to support a partition of Iraq which would have ended in ethnic cleansing (a.k.a. genocide), victory for al Qaeda in the Sunni triangle and for Iran in the rest of Iraq.  How is it possible for anyone to be so repeatedly wrong?  Even if you oppose the Iraq war, Bush has been less wrong than Biden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>While Biden served on the Senate Foreign Relations for decades, heâ€™s been wrong on nearly every significant foreign policy issue since he first took office.</p></blockquote>
<p>Take Iraq.  By his and Obama&#8217;s reckoning (not by mine), he was wrong to support Bush on the war.  Later, by the reckoning of anyone who loves America, Biden was wrong to support the surge.  And, by the reckoning of anyone who loves human life, he was wrong to support a partition of Iraq which would have ended in ethnic cleansing (a.k.a. genocide), victory for al Qaeda in the Sunni triangle and for Iran in the rest of Iraq.  How is it possible for anyone to be so repeatedly wrong?  Even if you oppose the Iraq war, Bush has been less wrong than Biden.</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
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		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 04:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biden, after 36 years in the senate, on the judicial committee no less, claimed on live television that the first article of the constitution establishes the executive branch. It does not. It establishes the legislative branch in which he sat (and still sits) for 36 years.

Nothing Biden says should ever be confused with wisdom. The problem is, liberalism is defined by its rejection of wisdom, not the recognition of it, so they will always mistake pretty words (like Obamas) and seemingly authoritative bloviating (like Bidens) for wisdom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biden, after 36 years in the senate, on the judicial committee no less, claimed on live television that the first article of the constitution establishes the executive branch. It does not. It establishes the legislative branch in which he sat (and still sits) for 36 years.</p>
<p>Nothing Biden says should ever be confused with wisdom. The problem is, liberalism is defined by its rejection of wisdom, not the recognition of it, so they will always mistake pretty words (like Obamas) and seemingly authoritative bloviating (like Bidens) for wisdom.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene in Pennsylvania</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/02/01/joe-biden-barometer-for-conventional-wisdom-of-left/comment-page-1/#comment-364421</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene in Pennsylvania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 04:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny the terrorists thought Bush and Cheney were the most dangerous people too. Hmmm interesting how the leftists are always on the same side of issues as the terrorists. Just a coincidence I suppose.
The Omama administration is the biggest collection of boobs, crooks, creeps and idiots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny the terrorists thought Bush and Cheney were the most dangerous people too. Hmmm interesting how the leftists are always on the same side of issues as the terrorists. Just a coincidence I suppose.<br />
The Omama administration is the biggest collection of boobs, crooks, creeps and idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: gillie</title>
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		<dc:creator>gillie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 03:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not clear, do you disagree with the statement that Cheney is &quot;one of the most dangerous vice presidents&quot; or do you just disagree with the messenger?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not clear, do you disagree with the statement that Cheney is &#8220;one of the most dangerous vice presidents&#8221; or do you just disagree with the messenger?</p>
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		<title>By: deadsteve</title>
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		<dc:creator>deadsteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 03:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That poor man, having cared for a family member with dementia I can only have sympathy for his wife and the Biden family.
Obama should think about taking away Joe&#039;s car keys and maybe have a sitter come in and watch Vice President Biden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That poor man, having cared for a family member with dementia I can only have sympathy for his wife and the Biden family.<br />
Obama should think about taking away Joe&#8217;s car keys and maybe have a sitter come in and watch Vice President Biden.</p>
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