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	<title>Comments on: Will Gay Groups Criticize Mean-Spirited Tactics of Angry Prop 8 Opponents?</title>
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		<title>By: WaPo Heralds &#8216;Chorus&#8217; of Gay Bloggers, Ignores Conservative GayPatriot Blog â€” But As For Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>WaPo Heralds &#8216;Chorus&#8217; of Gay Bloggers, Ignores Conservative GayPatriot Blog â€” But As For Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 18:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] shrill invective against proponents of the ballot initiative. Here&#8217;s one such excerpt from a February 8 post by &quot;GayPatriotWest&quot; entitlted, &quot;Will Gay Groups Criticize Mean-Spirited Tactics of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] shrill invective against proponents of the ballot initiative. Here&#8217;s one such excerpt from a February 8 post by &quot;GayPatriotWest&quot; entitlted, &quot;Will Gay Groups Criticize Mean-Spirited Tactics of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Perhaps you will note that â€œcloset queenâ€ was only mentioned in response to the one who suggested what a nice place it was.&lt;/i&gt;

How quickly they forget.

&lt;i&gt;So, go back there. In the world that &lt;b&gt;you folks&lt;/b&gt; apparently want to live in this website would not exist.&lt;/i&gt; 

You are not referring to a single individual. You are referring to all of us; however, as usual, you are trying to dodge and spin out of your obvious behavior because you got called on it. Just like you and your fellow liberal gays who practice and promote promiscuous sex, who spread lethal diseases to others, who are sexualizing five-year-old children, and who act like irresponsible spoiled brats try to avoid accepting any responsibility for how other people view them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Perhaps you will note that â€œcloset queenâ€ was only mentioned in response to the one who suggested what a nice place it was.</i></p>
<p>How quickly they forget.</p>
<p><i>So, go back there. In the world that <b>you folks</b> apparently want to live in this website would not exist.</i> </p>
<p>You are not referring to a single individual. You are referring to all of us; however, as usual, you are trying to dodge and spin out of your obvious behavior because you got called on it. Just like you and your fellow liberal gays who practice and promote promiscuous sex, who spread lethal diseases to others, who are sexualizing five-year-old children, and who act like irresponsible spoiled brats try to avoid accepting any responsibility for how other people view them.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 01:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; Good thing we had Left handed pride marches, left handed affirmative action, left handed court casesâ€¦

Oh, wait. We didnâ€™t. &lt;/i&gt;

Good.  Glad you didn&#039;t need to.  I guess left handed persons don&#039;t have to marry right handed persons, and marry those with the same handedness now.  :-)

&lt;i&gt; isnâ€™t it ironic that blacks and Hispanics, who they themselves perceive as perpetual victims of a so-called â€œracistâ€ society, are the first ones to the polls to vote on DOMAs? And that the black community at large is still homophobic to this day? &lt;/i&gt;

Yep.  It&#039;s a darn shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> Good thing we had Left handed pride marches, left handed affirmative action, left handed court casesâ€¦</p>
<p>Oh, wait. We didnâ€™t. </i></p>
<p>Good.  Glad you didn&#8217;t need to.  I guess left handed persons don&#8217;t have to marry right handed persons, and marry those with the same handedness now.  <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><i> isnâ€™t it ironic that blacks and Hispanics, who they themselves perceive as perpetual victims of a so-called â€œracistâ€ society, are the first ones to the polls to vote on DOMAs? And that the black community at large is still homophobic to this day? </i></p>
<p>Yep.  It&#8217;s a darn shame.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#57 - Either to himself or one of his other personalities.  Of course, he used the typical libtard &quot;it&#039;s-my-game-and-I&#039;m-going-home&quot; routine since he can&#039;t top ND30&#039;s logic.

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#57 &#8211; Either to himself or one of his other personalities.  Of course, he used the typical libtard &#8220;it&#8217;s-my-game-and-I&#8217;m-going-home&#8221; routine since he can&#8217;t top ND30&#8242;s logic.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: The Livewire</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Livewire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is adDave talking to himself again?</description>
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		<title>By: a different Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>a different Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#50

Perhaps you will note that &quot;closet queen&quot; was only mentioned in response to the one who suggested what a nice place it was.

As usual the rest of your drool is so far off base it&#039;s not worth answering.      Maybe someday you will grow up and see how ignorant and baseless your attacks are.  I doubt it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#50</p>
<p>Perhaps you will note that &#8220;closet queen&#8221; was only mentioned in response to the one who suggested what a nice place it was.</p>
<p>As usual the rest of your drool is so far off base it&#8217;s not worth answering.      Maybe someday you will grow up and see how ignorant and baseless your attacks are.  I doubt it.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#50 - And ND30, isn&#039;t it ironic that blacks and Hispanics, who they themselves perceive as perpetual victims of a so-called &quot;racist&quot; society, are the first ones to the polls to vote on DOMAs?  And that the black community at large is still homophobic to this day?

I have the statistical proof in terms of voter breakdowns for any screaming liberal queen (hello, ADD) that dares to refute it.

Go ahead.  Make my day.  ;-)

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#50 &#8211; And ND30, isn&#8217;t it ironic that blacks and Hispanics, who they themselves perceive as perpetual victims of a so-called &#8220;racist&#8221; society, are the first ones to the polls to vote on DOMAs?  And that the black community at large is still homophobic to this day?</p>
<p>I have the statistical proof in terms of voter breakdowns for any screaming liberal queen (hello, ADD) that dares to refute it.</p>
<p>Go ahead.  Make my day.  <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: The Livewire</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Livewire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thing we had Left handed pride marches, left handed affirmative action, left handed court cases...

Oh, wait.  We didn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thing we had Left handed pride marches, left handed affirmative action, left handed court cases&#8230;</p>
<p>Oh, wait.  We didn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; Pat, around that time, being left handed was a sign of being a witch and burned at the stake.

your point? &lt;/i&gt;

That homosexuals and left handed people shouldn&#039;t have been persecuted.  And these acts shouldn&#039;t have been punishable by death.  That ignorance reigned supreme back in the day.  At least it doesn&#039;t for lefthandedness anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> Pat, around that time, being left handed was a sign of being a witch and burned at the stake.</p>
<p>your point? </i></p>
<p>That homosexuals and left handed people shouldn&#8217;t have been persecuted.  And these acts shouldn&#8217;t have been punishable by death.  That ignorance reigned supreme back in the day.  At least it doesn&#8217;t for lefthandedness anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: The Livewire</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Livewire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 12:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat, around that time, being left handed was a sign of being a witch and burned at the stake.

your point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat, around that time, being left handed was a sign of being a witch and burned at the stake.</p>
<p>your point?</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; There were also laws in 1534 that allowed the death penalty for petty theft.

Do you have a point? And if so, what is it? &lt;/i&gt;

The point is that homosexual sex, like petty theft, was recognized as a crime.  That&#039;s not enough?  If heterosexual sex was also recognized as a crime punishable by death, that might be a problem as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> There were also laws in 1534 that allowed the death penalty for petty theft.</p>
<p>Do you have a point? And if so, what is it? </i></p>
<p>The point is that homosexual sex, like petty theft, was recognized as a crime.  That&#8217;s not enough?  If heterosexual sex was also recognized as a crime punishable by death, that might be a problem as well.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 06:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and adDave, all you&#039;ve shown on this thread is that you&#039;re the typical screaming gay leftist who namecalls anyone who calls you and your leftist friends on their bullshit. You seem to be under the delusion that you can scream &quot;closet queen&quot; at everyone and we care.

The reason we don&#039;t is simple. We have principles. We are not going to turn a blind eye to people who &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1056415/Teach-pleasure-gay-sex-children-young-say-researchers.html?Gay&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; advocate sexualizing five-year-olds&lt;/a&gt; because of their sexual orientation and insist that anyone who criticizes that hates gays, like you do. You have absolutely zero moral values or principles; your only rule is that your sexual orientation makes all the decisions for you. You are the equivalent of the black racists like Kwame Kilpatrick; you will excuse any crime, any action, anything of the sort based on your sexual orientation or that of your fellow gays, and &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; is why you have problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and adDave, all you&#8217;ve shown on this thread is that you&#8217;re the typical screaming gay leftist who namecalls anyone who calls you and your leftist friends on their bullshit. You seem to be under the delusion that you can scream &#8220;closet queen&#8221; at everyone and we care.</p>
<p>The reason we don&#8217;t is simple. We have principles. We are not going to turn a blind eye to people who <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1056415/Teach-pleasure-gay-sex-children-young-say-researchers.html?Gay" rel="nofollow"> advocate sexualizing five-year-olds</a> because of their sexual orientation and insist that anyone who criticizes that hates gays, like you do. You have absolutely zero moral values or principles; your only rule is that your sexual orientation makes all the decisions for you. You are the equivalent of the black racists like Kwame Kilpatrick; you will excuse any crime, any action, anything of the sort based on your sexual orientation or that of your fellow gays, and <i>that</i> is why you have problems.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 06:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;You will reap what you sow, count on it.&lt;/i&gt;

And that is exactly the point of this post; the gay community has reaped the seeds of promiscuity, antireligious bigotry, leftist politics, taking children to sex fairs, and spoiled-brat behavior that it sowed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You will reap what you sow, count on it.</i></p>
<p>And that is exactly the point of this post; the gay community has reaped the seeds of promiscuity, antireligious bigotry, leftist politics, taking children to sex fairs, and spoiled-brat behavior that it sowed.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 06:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;How about the Buggery Act brought into law in 1534 which proscribed the death penalty for homosexual sex.&lt;/i&gt;

There were also laws in 1534 that allowed the death penalty for petty theft.

Do you have a point? And if so, what is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>How about the Buggery Act brought into law in 1534 which proscribed the death penalty for homosexual sex.</i></p>
<p>There were also laws in 1534 that allowed the death penalty for petty theft.</p>
<p>Do you have a point? And if so, what is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 23:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; But if I say that extremist Pride rallies are causing problems for gays in conservative countries, then Iâ€™m a hate-monger. &lt;/i&gt;

No.  It just means that you are inaccurate.  That&#039;s all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> But if I say that extremist Pride rallies are causing problems for gays in conservative countries, then Iâ€™m a hate-monger. </i></p>
<p>No.  It just means that you are inaccurate.  That&#8217;s all.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 23:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; Wow. Edward II. Thousands of years of human history and so far, we have come up with Oscar Wilde and Edward II. Does that not suggest to you that gay persecution is wildly exaggerated? &lt;/i&gt;

Ashpenaz, you asked for another name, and I gave you one.  But I also pointed out that persecution happened to countless other non-celebrities/historical figures.  Or they don&#039;t count?

&lt;i&gt; Hereâ€™s the pointâ€“you have your opinion, I have mine. What frustrates me, and what the original blog is about, is that the gay community simply cannot tolerate dissent. &lt;/i&gt;

You may have a point there.  However...

&lt;i&gt; I would think Iâ€™m exhibit A of a homosexual who canâ€™t express a divergent opinion on even the most conservative gay blogs without being demeaned and insulted. Why is that? &lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t know.  The thing is, you are entitled to express your opinion, and you did.  And I respect that.  Now others are entitled to share their opinion as well.  You&#039;re not trying to play the victim here are you?  

&lt;i&gt; Until the gay community is willing to consider approaches other than victimhood, they will never make any gains in traditional society. &lt;/i&gt;

I agree, but mostly for individuals.  But it goes both ways though.  The gay community has plenty of faults.  I think that is something we can all agree on.  But one can&#039;t keep saying it&#039;s the gay community&#039;s fault and blaming them for ones own shortcomings.  You don&#039;t want to use any community as an excuse for not having a partner, a social life, etc., and wait until they change to your satisfaction.  If so, it&#039;s going to be one hell of a miserable life ahead.  

Sure, I kvetch about what I believe are injustices against gay persons.  I do this in the hope that things can be better for others.  Just like when conservatives gripe about how bad or stupid liberals are, I don&#039;t necessarily assume they are victims.  As for me, I&#039;m fine.  Victimhood sucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> Wow. Edward II. Thousands of years of human history and so far, we have come up with Oscar Wilde and Edward II. Does that not suggest to you that gay persecution is wildly exaggerated? </i></p>
<p>Ashpenaz, you asked for another name, and I gave you one.  But I also pointed out that persecution happened to countless other non-celebrities/historical figures.  Or they don&#8217;t count?</p>
<p><i> Hereâ€™s the pointâ€“you have your opinion, I have mine. What frustrates me, and what the original blog is about, is that the gay community simply cannot tolerate dissent. </i></p>
<p>You may have a point there.  However&#8230;</p>
<p><i> I would think Iâ€™m exhibit A of a homosexual who canâ€™t express a divergent opinion on even the most conservative gay blogs without being demeaned and insulted. Why is that? </i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know.  The thing is, you are entitled to express your opinion, and you did.  And I respect that.  Now others are entitled to share their opinion as well.  You&#8217;re not trying to play the victim here are you?  </p>
<p><i> Until the gay community is willing to consider approaches other than victimhood, they will never make any gains in traditional society. </i></p>
<p>I agree, but mostly for individuals.  But it goes both ways though.  The gay community has plenty of faults.  I think that is something we can all agree on.  But one can&#8217;t keep saying it&#8217;s the gay community&#8217;s fault and blaming them for ones own shortcomings.  You don&#8217;t want to use any community as an excuse for not having a partner, a social life, etc., and wait until they change to your satisfaction.  If so, it&#8217;s going to be one hell of a miserable life ahead.  </p>
<p>Sure, I kvetch about what I believe are injustices against gay persons.  I do this in the hope that things can be better for others.  Just like when conservatives gripe about how bad or stupid liberals are, I don&#8217;t necessarily assume they are victims.  As for me, I&#8217;m fine.  Victimhood sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
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		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You think that requires therapy? Oh, it gets much worse! I had a HUGE crush on Helen Reddy when Pete&#039;s Dragon came out. (of course I was only like 7 at the time)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You think that requires therapy? Oh, it gets much worse! I had a HUGE crush on Helen Reddy when Pete&#8217;s Dragon came out. (of course I was only like 7 at the time)</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#43 - AE, we need to get you into therapy.  Now.  ;-)

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#43 &#8211; AE, we need to get you into therapy.  Now.  <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
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		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reading the comments on this post I suddenly found myself singing Helen Reddy, with a slight twist...

I am Victim, hear me roar
in numbers too great to ignore...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reading the comments on this post I suddenly found myself singing Helen Reddy, with a slight twist&#8230;</p>
<p>I am Victim, hear me roar<br />
in numbers too great to ignore&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ashpenaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashpenaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Edward II. Thousands of years of human history and so far, we have come up with Oscar Wilde and Edward II. Does that not suggest to you that gay persecution is wildly exaggerated? 

Here&#039;s the point--you have your opinion, I have mine. What frustrates me, and what the original blog is about, is that the gay community simply cannot tolerate dissent. I would think I&#039;m exhibit A of a homosexual who can&#039;t express a divergent opinion on even the most conservative gay blogs without being demeaned and insulted. Why is that?

If I said, &quot;Extremist pro-life rallies are causing women all over the world to die in back-alley abortions,&quot; most gays would go, &quot;Huzzah!&quot;  But if I say that extremist Pride rallies are causing problems for gays in conservative countries, then I&#039;m a hate-monger. Until the gay community is willing to consider approaches other than victimhood, they will never make any gains in traditional society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Edward II. Thousands of years of human history and so far, we have come up with Oscar Wilde and Edward II. Does that not suggest to you that gay persecution is wildly exaggerated? </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the point&#8211;you have your opinion, I have mine. What frustrates me, and what the original blog is about, is that the gay community simply cannot tolerate dissent. I would think I&#8217;m exhibit A of a homosexual who can&#8217;t express a divergent opinion on even the most conservative gay blogs without being demeaned and insulted. Why is that?</p>
<p>If I said, &#8220;Extremist pro-life rallies are causing women all over the world to die in back-alley abortions,&#8221; most gays would go, &#8220;Huzzah!&#8221;  But if I say that extremist Pride rallies are causing problems for gays in conservative countries, then I&#8217;m a hate-monger. Until the gay community is willing to consider approaches other than victimhood, they will never make any gains in traditional society.</p>
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