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The president & the deficit

Posted by GayPatriotWest at 3:18 am - February 11, 2009.
Filed under: Big Government Follies,Dishonest Democrats

Once again, the president has been attacking the Republicans for the last eight years, as if still in campaign mode.  And yet he was in Washington for four of those eight years, so I’m wondering what he did in that time to confront those problems, particularly the deficit.

I mean, here he is blaming the GOP, yet did he ever propose a budget without such deficits?  Did he offer amendments to trim the size of federal appropriations?

And yet in his press conference he acts as if he were not in Congress when the deficits were increasing and debt was accumulating:

. . . when I hear that from folks who presided over a doubling of the national debt, then, you know, I just want them to not engage in some revisionist history. I inherited the deficit that we have right now and the economic crisis that we have right now.

And even as he decries those deficits, he’s putting forward a package which will increase it, as if to leave his successor with an even higher level of federal debt than that he inherited from his predecessor.  So much did I like Ed Morrissey’s thoughts on the matter (that I had linked, but not included, in previous post) that I include them here:

Obama tried a couple of times to lay the deficit off on the Republicans, but more than half of that deficit came from the bailouts of last year, which the Democrats pushed through Congress.  Republicans balked at the massive TARP program, which Obama criticized in his press conference last night.  The Bush administration didn’t partner with Republican leadership to get that passed; they had to get the Democrats to pass it, and Democrats have controlled Congress for the last two years.  And the economic crisis came from the collapse of the housing market bubble created by the kind of intervention Obama proposes.

It’s too bad the president can’t acknowledge his own part in the situation he “inherited.”  And if deficits are truly a problem, why is he seeking to expand rather than reduce them?



  1. Mr. Obama, in last nights press conference, laid the recession on GWB, accusing him of doubling the Federal deficit. And he was right, GWB did indeed double the deficit. Mr. Obama condemmed that. Then he turned around and promised to double, triple, quaddrupable the deficit to save the economy. Either GWB was right, or Mr. Obama is an ass. My instinct is to go with the latter. Doubling the deficit was wrong, so is tripling, or quaddroupling, the deficit. It’s wrong, it’s stupid, and it will not work. I hope everyone is prepared for hyper-inflation, it is coming your way.

    Comment by John in Dublin Ca — February 11, 2009 @ 5:15 am - February 11, 2009

  2. The only person who ca be Treasury Sec. in the country did a great job when he made the Dow Jones fall 400 points yesterday. Tiny Tim does not have clue one.

    Comment by PatriotMom — February 11, 2009 @ 7:44 am - February 11, 2009

  3. This is where Chairman Zero’s roots as a Community Agitator show. He only knows how to do one thing: Spend other people’s money. When the only tool you know how to use is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

    Comment by Gregory of Yardale — February 11, 2009 @ 9:19 am - February 11, 2009

  4. The Cost of the Porkulus: $233,000 per job created or “saved.” $30,000 in federal debt for every household in America.

    So, adDave, boob, and torrentprime, start with the cheerleading.

    Comment by Gregory of Yardale — February 11, 2009 @ 9:50 am - February 11, 2009

  5. I expected Obama to do something I would end up disagreeing with somewhere down the line, but I didn’t expect him to get on my nerves and piss me off so early out of the gate.

    We have a lot of work to do in order to right this ship. First order of business are the upcoming Congressional elections in 2010.

    Comment by Sharp Right Turn — February 11, 2009 @ 9:55 am - February 11, 2009

  6. Dan, Obama not only fails to take responsibility for his contribution to this mess, he does indeed sidestep his and fellow-Democrats’ role in it all when he decries that he “inherited” the deficit.

    I really think this guy would prefer just play President and wear cool shades than be a real president. NancyP does a better job at being a president of the current federal govt and Democrats than Obama… and that’s not saying much. And now the HouseDemocrats are saying that they weren’t responsible for the Democrat 2009 Spending bill… it was, get this, “… laid on our doorstep” if you believe arch-Democrat Steny Hoyer.

    It’s incredible. It’s like Alice in Wonderland, part deux.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — February 11, 2009 @ 11:01 am - February 11, 2009

  7. BTW, someone asked GOP strategist Tom “TommieK” Korologos what should Timmie-the-tax-cheat do now that he shmucked up his first outing in public? TommieK advises: “Call the Lirbary of Congress and find out what comes after trillion”.

    Brilliant point.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — February 11, 2009 @ 11:04 am - February 11, 2009

  8. (Comment trapped by filter; pls release. Thx)

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — February 11, 2009 @ 11:05 am - February 11, 2009

  9. I heard a stat that for less than what has been committed so far the govt could have paid off 90% of current mortgages in America. Amazing.
    Since 2006 Congress has been in the hands of the Democrats. Accountability people. How’s it working out?
    After the fact, people are wondering what Democrat tax cheat Geithner is bringing to the table. Yesterday the market dropped 350 points because he came off as an empty suit not prepared. And he doesn’t have a plan yet. Obama Tuesday, said he didn’t want to take away any of tax cheat Tim Geithners (D)”thunder” by giving away any details. It is possible Obama didn’t have a clue that Democrat tax cheat Geithner didn’t have a plan yet. Obama won the election almost 4 months ago. Remember the MSM claimed the transition was near flawless. These people are in over their heads. Boobs, dummies and crooks. I’m kinda glad I was one of the 57 million people who knew Obama was an empty suit as well.

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — February 11, 2009 @ 11:07 am - February 11, 2009

  10. As usual, the Republicans are MIA. Where are the press conferences and media interviews? Where are the jostling and jockeying for 2010 and 2012? Where are the alternative proposals and their advertising? Where is Steele vs. Steal?

    Comment by Ignatius — February 11, 2009 @ 11:50 am - February 11, 2009

  11. #9 – Iggy, as long as the DNCMSM is still in the tank for The Snob, the GOP will get virtually no airplay. Which is why we still need talk radio and alternative media, and we DO NOT NEED the (Un)Fairness Doctrine.

    See how the liberal mind works? Not pretty.

    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — February 11, 2009 @ 11:57 am - February 11, 2009

  12. I’m wondering what he did in that time to confront those problems, particularly the deficit.

    He voted “Present” 127 times.

    Comment by Bill Nola — February 11, 2009 @ 12:25 pm - February 11, 2009

  13. Peter, I’m not sure that GOP HdQtrs can use the excuse that the MSM is in the tank for Obama and the Democrats. That just won’t cut it.

    Even the MSM leftwing outlets live off controversy and conflict… MichaelSteele and GOPHdQtrs needs to give the MSM that soundbite they want… he did a good job during the Sunday morning tak shows, but that’s kind of speaking to those who are “inside the ballpark politics” wonks. He’s gotta reach… teach and reach big.

    Steele has to get the message out beyond that… he needs to get into the Democrat-ally base and work it. Hard. He needs to talk to independents worried about their kids’ future. And he needs to stop spending time talking to Hannity or Rush… that’s not where the message needs to be voiced -those guys do it nearly every second they are on the air.

    It’d be great to see him resurrect Bill Proxmire’s Golden Fleece Award and nominate a single $100m plus item in the Democrat 2009 Spending bill each day… like the Amtrak spending package that will waste $1.3b on a Democrat constituency program that didn’t make it out of the last century in the black… what a frickin waste.

    Get a schtick. Get a prop. Do SOMEthing NOW, Mr GOP Chairman. You can worry about ordering the french cuffed shirt links later… start earning your salary and offset the face/voice of the GOP –which right now is Collins, Specter and Snow.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — February 11, 2009 @ 12:45 pm - February 11, 2009

  14. And the GOP isn’t even using the Net effectively, yet.

    When exactly do these guys finally hear “Go”?

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — February 11, 2009 @ 12:47 pm - February 11, 2009

  15. Here’s an excellent example of using the Net to advance an agenda, telling the REAL story of what we need to get America moving once again.

    Thank God, Newt is still around.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — February 11, 2009 @ 12:55 pm - February 11, 2009

  16. I like the talk about tactics to discuss alternative Republican conservative strategies. Even the dumb Democrats during Republican control had “shadow” hearings and demonstrations to get their message out. But they did have MSM cooperation. Despite the web, blogs, Rush and Fox News if you aren’t on the MSM it is very difficult. For example, can any of you tell me how many attended the recent Right to Live Rally in DC? They got virtually no coverage.

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — February 11, 2009 @ 1:59 pm - February 11, 2009

  17. Gene, the GOP will never cut through the MSM, which is why they need to build a strategy around talk radio, the interwebs, and maybe even publishing their own magazine for the older crowd who don’t do internet.

    If I were to recommend a strategy for the GOP to rebuild it would include the following:

    1. Figure out what Republicans stand for, and use those principles to formulate solutions to a short list of high priority national challenges.

    2. Send local and state-level party leaders to boot camp to teach them how to talk about the issues and present solutions; and how to debate with liberals.

    3. In addition to a net, radio, publish strategy hold lots of townhall meetings to tell people what the party’s positions are, and challenge Democrats to debate at every opportunity. Groom the most gifted speakers for prominent roles as communicators and party representatives.

    Comment by V the K — February 11, 2009 @ 2:33 pm - February 11, 2009

  18. V, the problem with us conservatives is that unless something really makes us mad enough to spit bullets, we won’t do anything except do what I call “light reaction,” i.e. calling talk shows, posting blogs, maybe flooding Congress with calls, etc.

    Whereas when libtards get their wittle feewings huwt, they turn into screaming drama queens (hi, ADD) and get in people’s faces using “hard reaction” as opposed to light. Sure enough, the TV mikes and cameras are in their faces too.

    What we as conservatives need to go is get in people’s faces as well. Unfortunately, the DNCMSM will either do a Joe-the-Plumber job on us and pull out the skeletons in our closets, or incorrectly portray us as right-wing-nutjobs just a few degrees away from the KKK or John Birch Society.

    Either way, it’s a lose-lose situation.

    As for me, I prefer to go down fighting. And yes, I will get in their faces.

    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — February 11, 2009 @ 5:29 pm - February 11, 2009

  19. Peter the H, the other thing is the Democrats have a base … public employees and welfare recipients (but I repeat myself) … for whom getting a government check *is* their work and their business. For us, politics is a distraction. For them, it’s bread and butter. It’s very, very hard to compete against that. Especially now that we’ve passed the event horizon and there are more people taking from government than paying into it.

    Comment by V the K — February 11, 2009 @ 6:00 pm - February 11, 2009

  20. It’s simply not true that the GOPcan’t get its meassge out via traditional MSM outlets. The MSM feed on controversy, snarky soundbites, fallen angels, blood, violence, gore and whenever the little guy takes on the gorilla. It sells.

    To give the GOP HdQtr guys a pass and expect them to work around the ego-centric info-tainment world of talk radio show hosts is to miss a fundamental reality of the information marketplace and 21stC public square. Yeah talk radio is important for a segment but unless you listen to it with a religious fervor, you don’t realize that most people don’t even tune in the AM band in their cars anymore.

    Can they do more in the area of talk radio availability, the netWebs and other forms of communication? Sure. But it ain’t going to bring the bacon home on Election Day and it won’t attract independent voters and moderate anti-tax Democrats who are still watching/reading conventional MSM outlets. We need the message tailored to greet those potential voters –without tossing the baby out with the bath water.

    As for the idea that state and local Party officials need some boot camp time? Frankly, anyone who’s worked with the rank and file GOP leaders across the country will tell you that the local & state guys get “it” a hell of lot faster and with greater effect than the fatcats inside the beltway. They can also marshal the right argument with the correct spin faster and with deadly accuracy because they’re generally speaking from conviction and hard-won political fights. They don’t need CATO or the Club4Greed to tell them what matters.

    If you want to send some folks to bootcamp, try sending the staffers of House and Senate GOPers who still haven’t found the passion or inclination to fight for the long term interests of the Party when in conflict with protecting their Master’s backside.

    The problem isn’t at the grassroots levels, V.

    The problem continues to be inside the beltway and its caustic, adverse impact on local and state parties. Nearly every state GOP party organization, save Alaska, has very good candidate recruitment schools. There isn’t a shortage of experienced, enlightened, passionate people at the local or state levels to help them wage a campaign and win an office. The problem is the GOP fatcats inside the beltway branding the Party adversely… and no counterpoint from GOP HdQtrs when some of those beltway boys stray from the fold and try to cover their asses or take the Party for a ride on, what I call, the Fringe Bus.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — February 11, 2009 @ 8:49 pm - February 11, 2009

  21. No, wrong. I’ve heard from too many activists complaining that their state party operations are in shambles, especially Virginia, California, New York, New Hampshire, Ohio. Much of this is do to infighting. Additionally, there are states that are solidly red on presidential electors, but whose state governments and congressional delegations are overwhelmingly Democrat: WV, AR, ND, SD. The main reason for this is the state organizations don’t organize well, don’t recruit well, and don’t communicate well. This also hurts the party in blue states like Pennsylvania, where a better state organization could at least help send a few more pubes to Congress.

    Not to discount the problems at the national level. The national party can’t articulate what it stands for, and I suspect it doesn’t even know. Liz Dole’s tenure at the RSCC was an unmitigated disaster — spending millions to support a RINO like Lincoln Chaffee while letting Talent, Burns, and Allen lose in very narrow races where the money could have made a difference. And then there was John McCain’s disastrous, disorganized, dyspeptic and tone deaf campaign. The only reason he was the nominee was because of open primaries. What kind of party lets the other party choose its candidates for them? Idiocy.

    Comment by V the K — February 12, 2009 @ 9:01 am - February 12, 2009

  22. Sorry to go off topic, but “What kind of party lets the other party choose its candidates for them? Idiocy.” It’s a simple fact of politics that when a state Party chooses to have open primaries, without qualification, they get the candidate that draws the greatest number of votes on that day… if a Party wants to bask in the “benefits” of having open primaries, then that is the “cost”. I’m not a fan of open primaries ever since I watched Democrat voters pick the Mi-GOP nominee for governor in ’86 with a black candidate from metro Detroit named Bill Lucas… who couldn’t talk, couldn’t walk and turned people and voters off in droves.

    Local and state parties are not generally in shambles, unless you’re part of the status quo who is under attack (rightly so, I think) for the taking the Party far, far away from what it ought to be about –winning elections– and for some of the status quo state Party leaders it’s about purity tests on specific, single-issue matters or taking the Party to an even more conservative niche on the political spectrum or in playing personal kingdom-maker… all silly.

    We’ve got a great set of GOP farm teams doing the heavy lifting right now. Most state parties have excellent candidate and campaign training programs for the novice or untested candidate –if the candidate will drop the lion-sized ego, get some training, take some advice, find the right crew and work toward election… rather than working toward proving they are always right or some other motive than winning on Election Day. Running a “high moral ground” campaign is what advocacy groups do… not political parties.

    The simple truth is that for the GOP to win elections it must attract the greatest number of voters, work within the media outlets favored by those voters and beat the crap out of the ideas of the Left at every single frickin’ turn. No taking hostages. No polite demurs. No gentleman politics. Building coalitions of willing voters is how we’ll win; along with tirelessly pointing out the Democrats are in this for the other guy, not for the voter or America’s taxpayer.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — February 12, 2009 @ 9:44 am - February 12, 2009

  23. If the first step to solving a problem is admitting you have a problem, then the GOP should prepare to be a minority party for a very long time.

    Comment by V the K — February 12, 2009 @ 11:39 am - February 12, 2009

  24. I doubt the GOP writ large needs a 12 Step Program, V. If you don’t think the RNC gets it, if you don’t think state Parties get it, if you don’t think local parties and Congressional District chairs don’t get it, you’re wrong. We’ll see if Michael Steele gets out in front of the Democrat 2009 Spending bill MackTruck and calls it what it is… and what it isn’t. I think he gets it; I’m not sure he’s ready.

    What the Party does need to do is remind the less-than-faithful minions with their own battle axe to grind, that a few years ago those same people with the same advice about the GOP’s death rolls were likely trumpeting the fact that conservativism had killed the welfare state, turned the corner on socialism, spread its philosophy to Europe, SAmerica and beyond and the Democrats would be a 3rd Party… not even loyal opposition anymore… in short order of that insight being pronounced.

    My, what a difference a few years, a little corruption, ego-drunk powerhogs and a fleckless attention to the “basics of building a Party” rather than “purging a Party” can do, eh?

    And, frankly, some STILL haven’t learned with the calls from the farRight (probably from folks outside the Party, btw) for the Party to now make Collins, Specter and Snowe walk the plank ’cause they be RINOs, argh. Silly ol’ pirates need to get a new hat, new act and a new line. Because for GOPers to toss electable GOP Senators from blue states is about as low on the “they don’t get it” totem pole of politics as those angry, pitchfork ready toeheads can get.

    Present company excluded, of course.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — February 12, 2009 @ 1:54 pm - February 12, 2009

  25. Funny, from where I sit, it seems like it’s the “oogedy-boogedy” social conservatives that are the ones the party wants to purge.

    Comment by V the K — February 12, 2009 @ 3:09 pm - February 12, 2009

  26. #24 – Count me as part of both the “oogedy-boogedy” and “gayfella-feigala” wing of the GOP.

    And just try to get rid of me, moderate RINOS.

    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — February 12, 2009 @ 3:44 pm - February 12, 2009

  27. “Funny, from where I sit, it seems like it’s the “oogedy-boogedy” social conservatives that are the ones the party wants to purge.”

    Purge or just put them out to pasture for their excesses inside the Party in the 90’s? Hmmm, I think soc-cons have a place in the Party –just not piloting the ship. If we go back to the days of TeriSchiavo, FlagAmendments, FMA, EnglishOnly, build a wall, protectionism and making elites the boogeyman of trailer park residents, we won’t grow in 2010 or 2012. The lessons of the 2008 races and 2006 races is that going farther to the Right leaves more Americans moving farther to the Left… and that ain’t good for the Party or the conservative movement.

    We can’t run knee-jerk, hardcore, bible thumping soc-cons everywhere in the US of A. We can run fiscal conservatives. We can run strong military hawks. We can run those who support limited govt. We can win with people who preach Newt’s and Kemp’s Opportunity Society tenets. We can cut through to new voters with a strong, honest anti-tax messages. And we can run candidates who believe the Constitution is pretty good for now and the future, judges shouldn’t legislate from the bench, the 2nd Adm is supreme and federal term limits are a way to stop the corruption of money & seniority in Washington.

    And we need a way to run candidates in areas that aren’t strong GOP bases, allow them the flexibility from Party doctrine that will attract their own special voters, and accept that being GOP isn’t a one size fits all or we expect the culprits to hit the road.

    Collins and Snowe have 70+ and 80+ approval ratings inside their home state. It’s time for alleged GOP-sympathizers to appreciate that fact and understand the Party’s first obligation isn’t to advance conservatism… it’s to win elections. First and last. Only. And it can and will be done without losing the Party’s soul. Reagan used conservatism to win elections, to win policy debates, to attract voters disaffected with the Left. He used the movement… it wasn’t meant to replace or co-opt the Party.

    Soc-cons in the GOP, purge or put ’em out to pasture? Nawh, just don’t let them near the levers of power again; we did that and it was horrible. The culture war shouldn’t focus on the Left… it needs to focus on radical Islam.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — February 12, 2009 @ 4:49 pm - February 12, 2009

  28. Hmmm, I think soc-cons have a place in the Party –just not piloting the ship.

    I.E. “Vote Republican, but don’t expect any Republican support for your issues.”

    I can’t help but notice the Democrats don’t treat their left-wing supporters like this.

    Comment by V the K — February 12, 2009 @ 9:25 pm - February 12, 2009

  29. Maybe the truth is in the fact that soc-cons aren’t THE Party, they are a part of the Party. But you’re right, V, the Democrats don’t treat their farLeft colleagues like that… but then, the farLeft didn’t ruin their Party’s brand in the run up to this century? Heck, there’s loads of time for that.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — February 13, 2009 @ 3:25 pm - February 13, 2009

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