That sounds like a threat.

You will not give us gay marriage, so we will take it. And God help anyone who stands in our way.

1) Made gays look like haters, driving away sympathetic straights.
1a) Thus doing nothing to de-mobilize the Mormon Church or any others from anything.

2) Provided notice to the mainstream gay groups that results don’t matter to their gay and lesbian base, only theatrics matter, provided the theatrics are directed against the right Christian (or Mormon) target;

3) Provided notice to Democrats that they don’t have to move on gay issues because, again, gays and lesbians will never hold them responsible for anything.

We disagree. The natural state is to keep everything the way it is. Sometimes agitation (in the form of protests etc.) are necessary to move the agenda forward.

I’d argue that the Prop 8 protests have already accomplished the following:

1) Completely demobilized the Mormon church from funding anti-Gay causes.

2) Provided notice to the mainstream Gay groups that they will be passed by if they don’t get off their rear ends, stop hosting dinners, and start fighting for change

3) Provided notice to the Democrats that if they won’t move on our issues, there will be no end to the ugliness. They can’t call Barney Frank and the HRC to sign off on delays to DADT repeal etc. They can try, but its not going to be effective.

Due to real anti-Gay hatred by many Conservatives (not all, but MANY – ask if you want names and I’ll name them.), any time any Gay public policy issue is forced up to the agenda, it will engender controversy. I don’t see any reason to wait for the controversy.

However, I can remind you of the racist remark that Dean uttered during the 2008 campaign where he said that the only blacks at a RNC convention would be the hired help. Nobody excoriated him for a blatant lie or for engaging in racist politics.

Your method of “calling me out” stinks at best. And I think I have enough bona fides on this blog and elsewhere to bolster my own credentials.

To quote Faye Dunaway as Joan Crawford: “Don’t fcuk with me fella – this ain’t my first time at the rodeo.”

Regards,
Peter H.

@26 Don’t be so tiresome. I’m guessing he must have reversed himself somewhere along the way or the two of you would not be baiting me. Since I’m not a democrat, I frankly don’t give a hoot what he said. I’ve always liked Steele and am somewhat surprised at his recent rhetoric. It does not sound like him.

Peter, you’re not as clever as you think you are and I take some measure of delight in calling you on it.

Regards,
Peter H.

Peter H. is not nearly as clever as he thinks he is and I really enjoy pointing calling him on some of his idiotic statements.

ADD, you are utterly hopeless. I have a suspicion that you are a professor at Duke University because you have the same reasoning capabilities. Even after the Duke “rape” case was proved to be a complete fraud perpetrated by a lying, trashy who*e, the professors couldn’t admit that they had been suckered by their own idiotic liberal fantasies of crushing oppression in every corner of society. Instead, they believed that the university’s complicity in attempts to ruin the lacrosse players lives had been positive because it brought attention to the problem of violence against poor, minority women perpetrated by rich, privileged, white men. So, the whole cluster was worthwhile because it brought needed attention to violence in our society that never actually occurs in our society.

However, at least the Duke professors had a false accuser to rely on. But you don’t even need that to cast bigoted suspicion over self-identified Christians as hateful monsters who are on the verge of snapping into violent, bloody carnage against gays at any moment. Good for you, ADD. What would the world do without people like you “bringing needed attention” to the “problem” of violence committed by Christians (without a thing to base it on except your own pathetic, paranoid fantasies).

I refuse to let your comments go unheeded, David. You are truly one of the Professionally Offendeds. In other words, you’re a POS.

Regards,
Peter H.

Peter, you really are an imbecile and a jackass to boot.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1058/is_15_117/ai_62324426

Just my $0.02 here.

Regards,
Peter H.

Regards,
Peter H.

And then after you come out of the ER, we’ll talk more Hopey Changey.

Regards,
Peter H.

Except that most of the right, religious and otherwise are for anti-discrimination. That’s why we oppose affirimitive action. (discriminating for someone on basis of race) Hate crimes (discriminating based on thought) and other such travesties.

But the protesters definitely are [hateful].

You mean the No on 8 protestors, right? The ones who have been demonizing religious people. The ones who assaulted a peaceful old lady on camera. The ones who demonized a restaurant hostess who made a private, small donation to the other side. The ones who have been engaging in terrorism (sending fake-anthrax letters to try to terrorize certain religious people).

What I advise is not thinking that because someone says he/she is a Christian that they are above hate and violence. But, if you and others on here are comfortable with your heads buried somewhere dark and stanky, that’s fine, but it’s not going to provide you the slightest bit of protection from those who mean us harm (Christian or not).