Comments on: DADT Redux

By: GayPatriot » Gates’ Memo to Skelton Not as Horrific as Gay Left Wants You To Think

Sat, 01 May 2010 15:03:05 +0000

[...] the Secretary was saying is just what I’ve said many times (and speifically here): The military doesn’t change it’s toilet paper without an [...]

By: GayPatriot » Huck on DADT

GayPatriot » Huck on DADT — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 03:40:03 +0000

[...] any reader of this blog knows, I’m fully in favor of repealing the policy, so before the usual suspects jump in to mischaracterize what I’m saying, I’d like to [...]

By: Bill

Bill — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:33:41 +0000

My question is the history of actions for those who violated DADT by “ASKING.” My ex was asked and nothing happened to his CO. Every public story if find was a case of telling under duress from a superior. I have done some research but find NO reports of disciplinary action for violating the “Don’t Ask” part of this. I submit that DADT might work in the presence of equal punishment. Am I missing something?

By: MJ

MJ — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:48:52 +0000

CP – In all likelihood such a policy change will cause improved morale for some but lowered morale for others. If studies show a small number for whom lowered morale is a risk you have a better chance of arguing the net effect is positive. I think this is a very relevant data point, as would any change demonstrated between such studies now and in decades past.

By: John

John — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 02:11:52 +0000

Welcome back Nick!

By: ColoradoPatriot

ColoradoPatriot — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:29:04 +0000

MJ: Good point. I also point out that it's not up to the military to defend its policy. Rather, it's incumbent on those of us who wish it changed to show how that change would positively affect the mission. As long as we insist (and I'm not sure if that's what you're doing with your comment, so no offense meant here) that it's the military that should defend its current policy, we're fighting from the wrong perspective. To that end, while your point is valid, it's not germane. Unless there is evidence that changing the policy would actually improve morale, simply saying it might not hurt isn't going to cut it.

By: MJ

MJ — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:46:06 +0000

As you repeatedly point out the key issue is the effect on mission (if any). Given that the normal objection is unit cohesion, presumably on behalf of other military members, are you aware of any data estimating the approval / disapproval rates of those currently serving? Or serving at the time of the survey even if not current?

By: ILoveCapitalism

ILoveCapitalism — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:48:45 +0000

Sidebar, but Nick, I can’t tell you how many times crazed leftists on GayPatriot have told us that you, John, and others with an ex- or current-military connection… do not exist.

These are generally the same people who try to tell us that none of us are Bush critics (wrong!), none of us work or have worked for gay rights (wrong again!), blah blah blah.