Barack Hussein Hoover is morphing this week into Richard Milhouse Obama. The focused, surround-sound attack on Rush Limbaugh seems awfully familiar.Â
So, now we know. President Obama’s mentions of Rush Limbaugh are no accident. Democratic strategists have discovered that Rush has low approval ratings with the general public. So they have devised a strategy to paint Republicans with the Rush brush in order to marginalize conservatism and the Republican party. In the Nineties, they demonized Newt. Now, they’re after Rush. And the media is happily going along, as it so often does.
Wasn’t this the same kind of “aggressive” personal attack that drew wails and beating of chests by the American Left when allegedly-covert CIA agent Valerie Plame was “outed” by Richard Armitage?
So every day, Obama looks more and more like the media’s characture of President George W. Bush. Ironic, no?
But to me, there seems to be another every-building analogy that fits better: Enemies Lists. Political skullduggery from inside the White House. Tax Cheats evading the law. How very 1972.
-Bruce (GayPatriot)
I don’t know why you guys are clinging so hard to Rush Limbaugh — he’s just as discredited and wrong as the scores of Republican politicians that have lost their leadership positions during the Bush years. He was right there with George Bush and Tom Delay and Bill Frist ruining your party with bad ideas, but since he’s never had to face an election, he’s still running with those same bad ideas. People like him and Ann Coulter will always have their audiences and will always sell their books, but their message has been fundamentally rejected by the electorate. As cocky as you guys are about your chances in 2010 and 2012, you’re not going to go anywhere if Rush is leading the charge.
How can you not see this?
Rush is leading you guys off a cliff, how do you not see it? Everyone else in the Republican leadership has disappeared because they started losing elections. Rush was right there with George Bush and Tom Delay and Bill Frist, he’s just never had to be held accountable by voters. People like Rush and Ann Coulter will always have their audience, but even if that message appeals to some people, it sure as hell doesn’t appeal to the electorate anymore.
Again, how are you not seeing this?
A couple days ago this Rush Obama duel was considered a “distraction”.
the media was snarkey and demeaning, calling it a dustup.
i can’t screamit loud enough. “DISTRACTION”! You’ve got the full weight and power of the executive branch in the chief of staff of the Prez, coming down on a private citizen. A citizen expressing his OPINION!
You people better wake up! At first the gypsies, Poles, gays and artists giggled when the Nazis came after the Jews. Imagine a Republicanadministration who came after a liberal media type like Brokaw, Williams or Couric? Where the hell is the free speech, the exchange of ideas, this is appalling. And not a joke.
Levi, watch the chosen ones popularity plummet. Obamas lofty poll ratings are already down 20%. Limbaugh has been winning the war of polls for 20 years. He has more listeners than 10 of his competitors combined. The country is a center right country. The Obamaphiles will learn that soon enough. Obama did not promise this kind of crazy spending and taxing during the campaign. Even his own party is starting to rebel. And its been less than 60 days since his inaugural. In another 6 months we will have more tea bag demonstrations supporting the “producers” in America instead of the losers. It is going to be fun. And the end effect will be to save the country from socialism.
2 – A private citizen? Are we talking about the same Rush Limbaugh? You know he picked this fight, don’t you? You don’t think Obama has the right to respond to a very prominent public figure when he declares that he hopes that he fails? Nobody is trying to pull him off the air, nobody is trying to squelch him. Please stop being such a drama queen.
I’m quite sure the courts will invalidate it, mainly because, if they didn’t, they would ultimately have to nullify the marriages that have already taken place. Then more people aka tax payers, disgusted with the courts action, will pack up and leave the state, shrinking the tax base even further and destroying the already very very very very slim hope that the tax base will be able to bail the legislature out of their fiscal mess.
Well, if you say so Gene. You don’t have to take my advice if you don’t want to, but you’re fooling yourself if you actually believe that Rush Limbaugh is somehow different than the rest of the Republican party. He’s been in lockstep this entire time. If I remember correctly, he even said as much after the Republicans got swept in 2006, something about how he wasn’t going to carry their water anymore. The only difference is that he’s never run for office, which is a huge difference. Elected Republicans at least get the message when voters insist on sending them home, Limbaugh’s audience is constant if not growing, there is nothing in place to let him know when he’s off the rails.
But off the rails he is. Obama’s ratings haven’t fallen by 20%, and if you guys are still holding tea parties in 6 months, even I might start feeling sorry for you.
Bush never went after Olbermann, Franken, Garofalo, Schulz, Maddow, Moore, Matthews or any of the other lefties who cheered daily for his failure.
Levi,
President Obama ‘picked this fight’ by attacking a private citizen while addressing a group of congressmen.
Please get your timeline straight.
Also Levi, at this point in President Bush’s administration, his numbers were higher than President Obama’s.
Another aspect where this may wax Nixonian is the White Staff staff getting paid by taxpayers to plan Obama’s attacks on Limbaugh.
It’s becoming a matter of “Who was involved? Who knew what and when did they know it?”.
When Obama made this an Oval Office project he entered into a whole new world of potential illegalities. While criminal ops are the norm in Chicago politics, Americans tend to be a bit pickier when it comes to the Office of the President.
Spoken well from someone who doesn’t seem to have an understanding of a market-based economy. Point being, if Rush were off the rails, he’d be out of work. See, unlike the gerrymandered Congressmen “elected” by the citizens, in the real world, you have to produce or people vote with their feet.
But then again, if you have enough wealthy benefactors, even Air America can stay on the air far longer than they ever deserved.
But then again, if you have enough
wealthy benefactorschildrens charities to steal from, even Air America can stay on the air far longer than they ever deserved.20 liberal socialist radio hosts have been failures trying to match Limbaugh on talk radio just the past 10 years. Remember Franken, Dashel, Jackson, Cuomo, etal? Failures. In the Democrat party, failure makes you a star. The newest names on the Obamateleprompter enemies list are Cramer and Santelli of CNBC. Those two guys are only a handful of the people on CNBC who haven’t drank the Obamateleprompter kool aide.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19663.html
By the way, did you know that Obamateleprompter doesn’t say HELLO without a teleprompter? Now what would the press do with that info about anyone else except a liberal socialist Democrat?
I feel I have failed you all today. The point of my post seems to have been lost.
FACT: The Obama White House is starting to resemble the Nixonian politics of the 1970s.
DISCUSS.
🙂
#15 – Where’s “Coffee Talk with Linda Richman” when you need it? Is our host getting “verklempt?”
Let’s talk amongst ourselves.
Sorry, Bruce, couldn’t resist. 😉
Regards,
Peter H.
The Obama attempt at the politics of personal destruction has failed. It failed against Santelli, Rush and now Cramer. The organized plan was exposed and Obama looks foolish for doing it. Rush will net another million listeners.
Levi said: A private citizen? Are we talking about the same Rush Limbaugh? You know he picked this fight, don’t you? You don’t think Obama has the right to respond to a very prominent public figure when he declares that he hopes that he fails? Nobody is trying to pull him off the air, nobody is trying to squelch him. Please stop being such a drama queen.>>>>end quote
Levi: Limbaugh doesnt agree with the President’s policies because history has already proven them to be ruinous. I hope lil bHo fails too. And I dont like the man. Limbaugh only said, and I heard him say it (did you?) on his show that he summed up his “hope” for Mr. lil bHo as “I hope he fails.” Some lefty d-bags were pandering to him to try and get him to say something smarmy- as if lil bHo had built some good will with Limbaugh. It was a set up.
So Rush does what he always does in the face of a set up: tell the truth.
lil bHo is having gastric problems about Limbaugh.
Pathetic. The President cares that Limbaugh doesnt think socialism will succeed and wants it to fail? Doesn’t the One, el Zero, have bigger fish to fry than try to humiliate Republicans— the same crowd that will be giving the thumbs down when this Admin flies apart at the seams.
Levi- pay attention. lil bHo only got 55 per cent of the vote. And most of that margin is ACORN infested voter fraud.
Bear1909out
Bruce, it’s more like the Kennedy White house. Parties, celebrations…
All we need is wiretaps on Ward Connely. Oh, and Hallie Berry to die of a ‘drug overdose’
Then why the kerfuffle? You can’t be irrelevant one day and leader of the party the next.
Do you mean to tell me that the majority of Americans are liberal Socialists now?
I can smell bullshit before I see it and I smell a fresh pile at the top of the thread and interspersed throughout.
What kind of real leader would pay any mind to it?
BTW, you don’t think people have the right to respond to very prominent liberals when they declare that our soldiers are failures? Did the liberals want Bush to succede?
Bruce calls the classroom to order with “I feel I have failed you all today. The point of my post seems to have been lost.”
Isn’t it amazing how some of these guys here can just, willy-nilly, highjack a thread to bring up their own special issue or unpack their bag on your doorstep? Just kidding.
Characture?
So a “personal attack” is equivalent to illegally revealing the name of a covert CIA agent?
Psyching out the opposition party is equivalent to break-ins and black bag jobs?
On the moral scales, you’ve got a heavy thumbs.
Bruce the Gay Patriot gives us an example of the kind of divisive, fact free, twisted logic opinions we get from right wing sources. Bruce, the left wasn’t upset because Valerie Plame was subjected to a “personal attack.†The left was upset because the Bush Administration broke the law and harmed national security to punish and discredit a whistle blower who heroically pointed out how the Bush Administration peddled an outright lie, that if we didn’t go along with a senseless war we might get nuked, to sell the war.
The right also misleads about Armitage being the source of the leak. The Bob Novak article that exposed Plame had two sources, one of which was Karl Rove. Blaming Armitage alone is designed to hide Rove’s role.
There is no White House enemies list. That’s a right wing lie too. There is no skullduggery. The White House has nothing to do with anybody’s tax evasion.
The right is so accustomed to passing lies like that off that its a habit for them. It got this way because Democrats didn’t respond. Those days are over now, baby. Get used to being called on them.
— creeksneakers2
Except that revealing the identity of a covert CIA agent is against the law and a threat to nationak security, and making fun of a radio host isn’t. Other than that, exacty alike.
#24: “There is no White House enemies list.”
There certainly is. The list is titled, “American Taxpayers.”
#24: creeksneakers, speaking of “divisive, fact free, twisted logic opinions,” did you really just refer to Valerie Plame’s hen-pecked, unemployed, shlub of a husband Joe Wilson as a “heroic whistleblower?” Plame (Liar) and Wilson (Liar) had their day in the anti-Bush spotlight (and on John Kerry’s payroll) and lost big time. Lost jobs, lost credibility, lost self-respect, and lost all of their lawsuits in court. The fact that you characterize the “Plame Affair” in terms of breaches of law and national security is a joke and demonstrates perfectly that it is uninformed liberals like yourself that are the true perpetuators of smears and lies (even the most conclusively discredited ones).
The facts are well-known. Wilson was hired to go to Africa based on his wife’s suggestion. She of course lied about it (as if he was just randomly selected by her employer for the job), but her lies were exposed in CIA documentation stating that she “suggested” Wilson for the job based on his African contacts. Plame’s a liar.
Also, no one was arrested or convicted for “outing” Plame and in fact, there has never been a judicial determination that she was even “covert.” Of course, getting in her Volvo and driving to her office at Langley every morning (not to mention appearing in a photo shoot for Vanity Fair) would suggest that she was not exactly working under “deep cover.” Libby was convicted for obstruction of justice based on relentless and repeated questioning and investigation from the Department of Justice–not for “outing” Plame. The rest of your BS about Rove and Armitage is nothing more than rank, partisan speculation (which, as you know, merited no indictments or action to be taken by prosecutor Fitzgerald–hmmm, I wonder why? Could it be that he knew he would need that pesky stuff called evidence to justify an indictment and to get a conviction but had none? Naaahh.)
Contrary to what Wilson wrote in the New York Times, Saddam Hussein was trying to acquire uranium from Niger. In support of that proposition are a Senate report in Washington, Lord Butler’s report in London, MI6, French intelligence, other European agencies — AND, as we now know, the CIA report, based on Joe Wilson’s original briefing to them. Wilson’s conflicting reports were exposed by the 9/11 commission report, which prompted Kerry to summarily fire him from his campaign.
And finally, the most pathetic part of all. Plame and Wilson’s huge lawsuit against Bush, Rove, the federal government and virtually every other registered Republican in the DC area? Dismissed. Thrown out of court on their asses. OVER.
Plame and Wilson are useless, desperate, fame-seeking pieces of trash and the fact that you champion them as heroes and victims of the Bush Administration confirms everything we already knew about liberals and their typical disregard of proven facts.
Sean A: If you rely on infirm sources like the Gay Patriot its no wonder you are so far from reality.
The White House is not the enemy of US taxpayers. Obama just got a major tax cut passed which cut taxes for 98% of taxpayers. The “enemies list” Gay Patriot falsely blamed Obama for was supposedly comprised of a handful of named journalists. The term enemies list came from an atrocity during Nixon’s time. Your unclever change of meaning of what Gay Patriot alleged does not refute the fact that Gay Patriot told a lie about Obama.
I don’t know where your idea that Wilson is hen-pecked comes from but I suspect its anger at women based on previous rejections.
There is no well established fact that Joseph was sent to Niger based on his wife’s suggestion. That idea comes from a State Department memo written by a guy who got to the meeting late and only knew that Valerie had introduced her husband at the meeting. The CIA denies to this day that Valerie chose her husband. For a good look at this subject see :
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/10/AR2005081001918_pf.html
I don’t believe the Wilsons were ever on John Kerry’s payroll. I believe they did provide Kerry with advice.
I can’t find anything about whether Wilson is now employed or not.
Shlub is not a good word to describe Joeseph Wilson. He’s an American hero who held off Saddam Hussein’s army from taking over the US embassy in Iraq.
Nobody was arrested for outing Plame because the prosecution could not prove that the President, who can declassify anything he wants, didn’t authorize the leak. Its known that Cheney authorized, and he claims without much foundation that he has the authority to declassify. Such there never was a judicial determination of Plame’s status. However, the Independent Prosecutor said Plame was in fact covert and filed this court document:
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/070529_Unclassified_Plame_employement.pdf
The source of the idea that Plame wasn’t covert was some GOP trash named Victoria Toensig. She was questioned about her assertion before a Congressional committee. There, she had to admit she had no first hand knowledge at all and based her claim only on her idea that if Plame had been covert somebody would have been prosecuted. There are 1000s of possible reasons not to prosecute, so Toensig was passing off BS.
Plame didn’t pose for Vanity Fair until after she was already outed.
I am not speculating about Rove having an equal role in Novak’s story. Novak and Rove both admit Rove was a source. The Independent Prosecutor also determined this was fact.
The most outrageously false statement you make is that Saddam Hussein tried to purchase Uranium from Niger.
First some background. No analyst that did not have an agenda ever believed the Saddam/Niger/uranium hoax. First, Iraq already had 50 tons of uranium. Second, its very difficult for any nation to hide production of a nuclear weapon and Saddam would have had to do it under sanctions and with almost no money. The only part of building a nuclear weapon Saddam already had was uranium.
The idea that Saddam did was based on an obviously forged memo. The memo didn’t say Saddam tried to buy uranium. The memo said Saddam DID buy 50 tons of uranium, which would amount to a year’s supply from Niger. Niger’s nuclear industry is under tight controls and scrutiny. It would be impossible to smuggle that much out.
Several others looked at the issue raised by the memo and came to the same conclusion Wilson did. It was a hoax. Among those who exposed it as a hoax was French Intelligence and they exposed it before even Wilson went. The Congressional Committee report you cite says that when US analysts finally recieved a copy of the forgery they laughed out loud. It was passed around as a joke. When the CIA finally received a copy, they locked it in a vault and never even looked at it. (They must have known it was a forgery but nobody wanted to handle evidence that was contrary to Bush’s lies before the war.)
Dick Cheney was told there was nothing to the Niger/uranium hoax when he was first briefed. Cheney demanded a second look from the CIA. According to documents you cite, when Wilson returned from Africa and said there was nothing to the story his debriefers didn’t file a report on Wilson’s findings because he brought “nothing new.” In other words, everybody already knew it was a hoax, including Cheney. BTW- The only evidence of an attempt Wilson reported was based on speculation by an official who had no actual authority in Niger that something that was said to him might have meant that Iraq wanted to purchase unanium. The Iraqi official’s timeline did not match the other allegations.
As I said, the French had already debunked the hoax. So had American intelligence. The Butler report only tries to sheepishly suggest that the British could have drawn the erroneous conclusions BASED ON WHAT WAS KNOWN AT THE TIME. Even that statement has since been debunked. The Downing Street memos exposed that the British were well aware that America was selling the war with lies. The Italians never committed to whether the documents were forgeries or not. No other European or any other intelligence agency had any first hand knowledge. If others came to the same conclusions as Bush, it was because they got the same false information from Bush.
Its nearly impossible to prevail in a lawsuit against a public official because they are protected by immunity. Just because Wilson didn’t succeed didn’t mean his facts were wrong.
I suggest that you look at original sources for facts, like documents and transcripts, instead of relying on right wing propaganda for your world view.
Bravo, creeksneakers. You have, far and away, unloaded the biggest, steaming pile of bullshit ever unloaded on GayPatriot. I suggest you look at original sources for facts instead of relying on DailyKOShole lying points.
If the liberal left actually gave a rotten damn about leaks, they would hold “Leaky” Leahy and John F-You Kerry (who served in Vietnam) and the al-Qaeda Times accountable. This is nothing more than worthless trash seeking 15 minutes of fame. Now they’re worth as much as dog shit on the bottom of your shoe, just like Scott Beauchamp and Cindy Sheehan.
You are one low-life, scum-sucking, lying sonofabitch and I damn you and your entire spin job.
I thought the lying point was 95%. Which is it?
When you give people a measley $8-13 per week (that they EARNED) on their paychecks and then take away, at least, $668/yr to cover for the Cap & Trade circle jerk, yeah. You ARE an enemy of the taxpayer.
When you promise transparency and allow the people to view spending bills before they’re signed, and then give them the finger saying, essentially “view THIS”. You’re an enemy of the taxpayer.
When you promise to go through bills, line by line, and eliminate pork and then spend TRILLIONS of the taxpayer’s money to reimburse your donors, you’re an enemy of the taxpayer.
When you promise “tax cuts”, but order tax increases on businesses that you KNOW will be passed on to the consumer, you’re an enemy of the taxpayer.
I can go on, if you want, shitsneaker.
I want you to go on.
When the cap and trade program passes there will be a new tax cut which will offset the revenue. So people will have to pay more but they’ll have more money to pay with….Same idea as the wingnut value added tax.
I don’t know why you call Patrick Leahy “leaky.” Back at the Iran/Contra hearings, the final draft report was written but not yet approved by the committee. Reagan and his right wing liars were telling the media that the report cleared the White House of everything but the Democrats were sitting on the report to keep that secret. Of course it was all a Reagan lie. Leahy made the mistake of letting a network reporter look at the report before it was approved, to prove Reagan was lying. It was subsequently approved. Notice how the RW ignores Reagan’s lies but forever goes after Leahy for a minor transgression. I
Its nothing like the time British had a terrorist chain traced from its leader in Pakistan down to the street level with British citizens. The British informed the Bush cabal but begged to keep the hunt secret, as proof hadn’t been developed yet and any tip off would scatter the terrorists. Your pal Bush was close to election, so he had the terrorist leader arrested in Pakistan, thereby tipping off the terrorists and allowing them to escape. Of course, it was close to the 2004 election and Bush wanted a big story about how he fought terrorism. I call that a “leak.”
There is no such thing as the Al-Queada times. If you think there are terrorists running the New York Times you are cracked and should seek help. Its the most respected newspaper in the world.
$8 to $13 a week is a lot of money to many of us. You must not know how ordinary Americans have to squeeze to get by.
Obama never promised no more earmarks. That’s a right wing lie. Obama did promise there would be no earmarks in the stimulus bill and there weren’t. The Democrats have cut total earmarks by half from when the GOP was in power, and half the ones left are GOP earmarks. Obama wants to get rid of the rest of them. Sorry he hasn’t accomplished this with less than two months in office. How well did Bush do on the subject in his first two months?
The conference committee version of the stimulus should have been published on the web longer. I’m with you there. But most of what was in it was previously published and debated.
Obama hasn’t given $trillions to his donors or anything remotely like that. You must be hallucinating. When you seek help, you should mention that insane notion, as well as your obsession with BM. If you refuse to seek help and a court hasn’t ordered you to get it yet, you should at least try yoga. Take a few courses from a lib professor at your local community college too, so you’ll have at least some clue about what you are fucking talking about.
Shitsneaker