Comments on: How Many on the Left “Need” a Villian:Whether Confronting Opposition to Gay Marriageor the Administration’s Policies http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/03/07/how-many-on-the-left-need-a-villianwhether-confronting-opposition-to-gay-marriageor-the-administrations-policies/ The Internet home for American gay conservatives. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:53:49 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Anonymous http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/03/07/how-many-on-the-left-need-a-villianwhether-confronting-opposition-to-gay-marriageor-the-administrations-policies/comment-page-2/#comment-415935 Anonymous Sat, 02 May 2009 09:46:12 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=9447#comment-415935 <strong>Mom Blogs - Blogs for Moms...</strong> ... Mom Blogs – Blogs for Moms…

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]]> By: The Livewire http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/03/07/how-many-on-the-left-need-a-villianwhether-confronting-opposition-to-gay-marriageor-the-administrations-policies/comment-page-2/#comment-385174 The Livewire Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:16:34 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=9447#comment-385174 "I believe I like little boys and should bugger then whenever possible." -The Livewire as Kevin. I'd not heard that Bristol and Levi split. Maybe Levi should have been more responcible instead of posting here. Kevin, so when condoms fail, when the pill fails, when nuvaring fails, does that mean we should scrap sex education completely? This seems to be your arguement. Unfortunately both of them were young and more full of passion than common sense. Personally I wish both of them well and hope their private lives continue to be, well, private. “I believe I like little boys and should bugger then whenever possible.” -The Livewire as Kevin.

I’d not heard that Bristol and Levi split. Maybe Levi should have been more responcible instead of posting here.

Kevin, so when condoms fail, when the pill fails, when nuvaring fails, does that mean we should scrap sex education completely? This seems to be your arguement.

Unfortunately both of them were young and more full of passion than common sense. Personally I wish both of them well and hope their private lives continue to be, well, private.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/03/07/how-many-on-the-left-need-a-villianwhether-confronting-opposition-to-gay-marriageor-the-administrations-policies/comment-page-2/#comment-384962 Kevin Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:12:23 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=9447#comment-384962 Bristol and Levi Split! Yup.....predicted that one; how long it would take was the only question... (especially given that Palin didn't become VP) So where is "doing the right thing" now? Unmarried teenager who is now saddled with a baby (even though she has family support, it's her responsibility - her early adult youth gone forever). So much for abstinence only (which Bristol said on national TV doesn't work) in lieu of real sex education. "I believe Marriage is a sacred bond between 2 unwilling teenagers" Tina Fey as Sarah Palin Bristol and Levi Split! Yup…..predicted that one; how long it would take was the only question… (especially given that Palin didn’t become VP) So where is “doing the right thing” now? Unmarried teenager who is now saddled with a baby (even though she has family support, it’s her responsibility – her early adult youth gone forever). So much for abstinence only (which Bristol said on national TV doesn’t work) in lieu of real sex education.

“I believe Marriage is a sacred bond between 2 unwilling teenagers” Tina Fey as Sarah Palin

]]> By: ThatGayConservative http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/03/07/how-many-on-the-left-need-a-villianwhether-confronting-opposition-to-gay-marriageor-the-administrations-policies/comment-page-2/#comment-384032 ThatGayConservative Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:01:51 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=9447#comment-384032 #51 I was asking Attmay how your comment was "cognitive dissonance" #51

I was asking Attmay how your comment was “cognitive dissonance”

]]> By: Roberto http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/03/07/how-many-on-the-left-need-a-villianwhether-confronting-opposition-to-gay-marriageor-the-administrations-policies/comment-page-2/#comment-383782 Roberto Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:06:49 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=9447#comment-383782 Rush delivers a speech that is a commentary on the Obama agenda which is diametrically opposes to conservative principals that raises the liberals ire and he is attacked for it. Jack Cafferty has made a career out of attacking Republicans but nobody attacks him. Rush delivers a speech that is a commentary on the Obama agenda which is diametrically opposes to conservative principals that raises the liberals ire and he is attacked for it. Jack Cafferty has made a career out of attacking Republicans but nobody attacks him.

]]> By: V the K http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/03/07/how-many-on-the-left-need-a-villianwhether-confronting-opposition-to-gay-marriageor-the-administrations-policies/comment-page-2/#comment-383779 V the K Mon, 09 Mar 2009 15:59:36 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=9447#comment-383779 I think Ashpen and I are on very similar wavelengths. I think Ashpen and I are on very similar wavelengths.

]]> By: Ashpenaz http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/03/07/how-many-on-the-left-need-a-villianwhether-confronting-opposition-to-gay-marriageor-the-administrations-policies/comment-page-2/#comment-383744 Ashpenaz Mon, 09 Mar 2009 14:01:52 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=9447#comment-383744 Yeah, how so? Why is calling a homosexual relationship a "marriage" somehow an intrinsic American ideal? I believe marriage was created by God for heterosexuals. I believe God blesses same-sex covenants like those between David and Jonathan, Naomi and Ruth, Daniel and Ashpenaz, etc. But a same-sex covenant has a different dynamic and a different set of responsibilities than a heterosexual marriage--hence the difference in names. I think same-sex covenants are separate but better. Yeah, how so? Why is calling a homosexual relationship a “marriage” somehow an intrinsic American ideal? I believe marriage was created by God for heterosexuals. I believe God blesses same-sex covenants like those between David and Jonathan, Naomi and Ruth, Daniel and Ashpenaz, etc. But a same-sex covenant has a different dynamic and a different set of responsibilities than a heterosexual marriage–hence the difference in names. I think same-sex covenants are separate but better.

]]> By: John Williams http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/03/07/how-many-on-the-left-need-a-villianwhether-confronting-opposition-to-gay-marriageor-the-administrations-policies/comment-page-1/#comment-383502 John Williams Mon, 09 Mar 2009 03:08:40 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=9447#comment-383502 Great website. AS to normally rational, intelligent people who buy the leftist garbage, I've decided that they look at politics as a hobby. It's an escape where they can take out their brains and play with them for a while without having to fire the synapses of judgment and rationality in their normally well-organized brains. Great website. AS to normally rational, intelligent people who buy the leftist garbage, I’ve decided that they look at politics as a hobby. It’s an escape where they can take out their brains and play with them for a while without having to fire the synapses of judgment and rationality in their normally well-organized brains.

]]> By: ThatGayConservative http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/03/07/how-many-on-the-left-need-a-villianwhether-confronting-opposition-to-gay-marriageor-the-administrations-policies/comment-page-1/#comment-383487 ThatGayConservative Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:27:15 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=9447#comment-383487 <blockquote>See, this is what is known as cognitive dissonance.</blockquote> How so?

See, this is what is known as cognitive dissonance.

How so?

]]> By: Attmay http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/03/07/how-many-on-the-left-need-a-villianwhether-confronting-opposition-to-gay-marriageor-the-administrations-policies/comment-page-1/#comment-383419 Attmay Mon, 09 Mar 2009 00:31:43 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=9447#comment-383419 #44: "I am for full equality, Gavin. I am for all the ideals America was based on. I am against gay marriage." See, this is what is known as cognitive dissonance. #44: “I am for full equality, Gavin. I am for all the ideals America was based on. I am against gay marriage.”

See, this is what is known as cognitive dissonance.

]]> By: V the K http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/03/07/how-many-on-the-left-need-a-villianwhether-confronting-opposition-to-gay-marriageor-the-administrations-policies/comment-page-1/#comment-383282 V the K Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:32:39 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=9447#comment-383282 I think there's a fringe of the right that engages in vitriol and distortions. I think hatred, vitriol, and distortion are mainstream in the left. The leftists who post on this blog validate that belief daily. I think there’s a fringe of the right that engages in vitriol and distortions. I think hatred, vitriol, and distortion are mainstream in the left. The leftists who post on this blog validate that belief daily.

]]> By: gillie http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/03/07/how-many-on-the-left-need-a-villianwhether-confronting-opposition-to-gay-marriageor-the-administrations-policies/comment-page-1/#comment-383278 gillie Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:13:22 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=9447#comment-383278 Huh? So you honestly disagree with this: "there are distortions and vitriol frrom both sides" really?!? yow (btw - the response to that “challenge” is in filter) Huh?

So you honestly disagree with this:
“there are distortions and vitriol frrom both sides”

really?!?
yow
(btw – the response to that “challenge” is in filter)

]]> By: V the K http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/03/07/how-many-on-the-left-need-a-villianwhether-confronting-opposition-to-gay-marriageor-the-administrations-policies/comment-page-1/#comment-383269 V the K Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:52:25 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=9447#comment-383269 <blockquote>Wow…are you so roped in to your own propaganda that you can’t see <b> there are distortions and vitriol frrom both sides???</b> Comment by gillie — March 7, 2009 @ 10:29 am - March 7, 2009</blockquote> It's really dumb to deny a previous comment when all we have to do is scroll up. Challenged to post the vitriol and distortions from his own side, Gillie wussed out.

Wow…are you so roped in to your own propaganda that you can’t see there are distortions and vitriol frrom both sides???
Comment by gillie — March 7, 2009 @ 10:29 am – March 7, 2009

It’s really dumb to deny a previous comment when all we have to do is scroll up.

Challenged to post the vitriol and distortions from his own side, Gillie wussed out.

]]> By: Ashpenaz http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/03/07/how-many-on-the-left-need-a-villianwhether-confronting-opposition-to-gay-marriageor-the-administrations-policies/comment-page-1/#comment-383267 Ashpenaz Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:48:43 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=9447#comment-383267 Golly, I despise Gavin Newsom. I am for full equality, Gavin. I am for all the ideals America was based on. I am against gay marriage. It is not the same as interracial marriage. Homosexuals and heterosexuals are different and their relationships have different dynamics. Civil unions can establish legal equality. Homosexuals can then make those unions separate but better. Golly, I despise Gavin Newsom. I am for full equality, Gavin. I am for all the ideals America was based on. I am against gay marriage. It is not the same as interracial marriage. Homosexuals and heterosexuals are different and their relationships have different dynamics. Civil unions can establish legal equality. Homosexuals can then make those unions separate but better.

]]> By: gillie http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/03/07/how-many-on-the-left-need-a-villianwhether-confronting-opposition-to-gay-marriageor-the-administrations-policies/comment-page-1/#comment-383261 gillie Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:34:03 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=9447#comment-383261 Dave P - Huh? I said: "It IS amazing how people on both sides have their foils….isn’t it?" And the folks who post here couldn't even admidt that such an obvious fact is true. sad Dave P –
Huh?
I said:
“It IS amazing how people on both sides have their foils….isn’t it?”
And the folks who post here couldn’t even admidt that such an obvious fact is true.

sad

]]> By: gillie http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/03/07/how-many-on-the-left-need-a-villianwhether-confronting-opposition-to-gay-marriageor-the-administrations-policies/comment-page-1/#comment-383246 gillie Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:03:05 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=9447#comment-383246 ahhh...filter ahhh…filter

]]> By: The Left and its Need for a Villain « Chiefly Musing http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/03/07/how-many-on-the-left-need-a-villianwhether-confronting-opposition-to-gay-marriageor-the-administrations-policies/comment-page-1/#comment-383225 The Left and its Need for a Villain « Chiefly Musing Sun, 08 Mar 2009 16:17:30 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=9447#comment-383225 [...] Left and its Need for a Villain Jump to Comments Some thoughts here by Gay [...] [...] Left and its Need for a Villain Jump to Comments Some thoughts here by Gay [...]

]]> By: The Other http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/03/07/how-many-on-the-left-need-a-villianwhether-confronting-opposition-to-gay-marriageor-the-administrations-policies/comment-page-1/#comment-383211 The Other Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:39:31 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=9447#comment-383211 Dennis Prager comments on this all the time, the left preferes to attack individuals vs debating ideas. Dennis Prager comments on this all the time, the left preferes to attack individuals vs debating ideas.

]]> By: DaveP. http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/03/07/how-many-on-the-left-need-a-villianwhether-confronting-opposition-to-gay-marriageor-the-administrations-policies/comment-page-1/#comment-383182 DaveP. Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:27:42 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=9447#comment-383182 Watching one of the Little Letter People get gang-curbstomped... priceless. Scott, I'll remember that one. Watching one of the Little Letter People get gang-curbstomped… priceless.

Scott, I’ll remember that one.

]]> By: Scott Lassiter http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/03/07/how-many-on-the-left-need-a-villianwhether-confronting-opposition-to-gay-marriageor-the-administrations-policies/comment-page-1/#comment-383174 Scott Lassiter Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:05:12 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=9447#comment-383174 Well gillie, I’m so sorry but you will have to take an ‘F’. If it’s one thing I can’t tolerate, it’s a student who resorts to projection as a defense. This teaching moment was meant to have you perform some critical thinking and analysis by actually having you consider the distortions and weaknesses of your side, which you readily indicated were present. But your Google search indicated, to your surprise I guess, that there were none. It’s interesting that you visit a site such as this, I assume to gather information that doesn’t coincide with your current knowledge base so you may come to a deeper understanding of an issue. I think that is a wonderful thing to do, and I do it myself to help sort it all out. It appears you really visit here to reinforce your groupthink mindset and are not interested in pursuing a greater understanding. That is a shame, and I hope that you reconsider that your unwavering opinion is likely a deeper rooted psychological difficulty, one that in all likelihood you may not be aware. That’s the way it is with polarization and groupthink. They are very nasty phenomena that afflict many. But keep your chin up and keep battling, and perhaps with some luck the pharmaceuticals will find a solution in pill form. We’ll give it another try sometime. Well gillie, I’m so sorry but you will have to take an ‘F’. If it’s one thing I can’t tolerate, it’s a student who resorts to projection as a defense.
This teaching moment was meant to have you perform some critical thinking and analysis by actually having you consider the distortions and weaknesses of your side, which you readily indicated were present. But your Google search indicated, to your surprise I guess, that there were none. It’s interesting that you visit a site such as this, I assume to gather information that doesn’t coincide with your current knowledge base so you may come to a deeper understanding of an issue. I think that is a wonderful thing to do, and I do it myself to help sort it all out. It appears you really visit here to reinforce your groupthink mindset and are not interested in pursuing a greater understanding. That is a shame, and I hope that you reconsider that your unwavering opinion is likely a deeper rooted psychological difficulty, one that in all likelihood you may not be aware. That’s the way it is with polarization and groupthink. They are very nasty phenomena that afflict many. But keep your chin up and keep battling, and perhaps with some luck the pharmaceuticals will find a solution in pill form. We’ll give it another try sometime.

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