Fat, Disgusting, Piggish Earmarks…

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1. I’m surprised no one has commented on this yet. I’m curious to see how long it takes for someone to criticize ColoradoPatriot and turn the criticism to Democrats (cause I know they will).

   Why does anyone believe that Republicans are the party of fiscal responsibility when any demonstrable economic marker regularly shows otherwise?

   Comment by george — March 8, 2009 @ 11:13 pm - March 8, 2009

2. george:

   How long have you been around? I know I recognize your name. I know you’ve been here before a lot. Why pretend like you never have read any of these comments? Why take the chance that you make a fool of yourself over something you know won’t be the case?

   Watch: This is how it happens: Yes, some deflections toward the Democrats (and Obama, who’s not going to go “line-by-line” through it and get rid of anything like he said he’d do). But you watch…the majority of the bile about to be spewed by conservatives is going to be against the hyporcrites who deserve it. Those who speak of fiscal responsibility but act this irresponsibly.

   C’mon, george. You know better. Why set yourself up that way?

   Comment by ColoradoPatriot — March 8, 2009 @ 11:47 pm - March 8, 2009

3. Because, CP, the point of liberal trolls like george is to stir shit.

   Meanwhile, the rest of us will be demonstrating that we are more than capable of holding Republicans who behave stupidly accountable for their behavior. Well done.

   Comment by North Dallas Thirty — March 9, 2009 @ 12:14 am - March 9, 2009

4. I really love it every time these pork discussions come up, whether the be pro/anti one party or another. Of course there will always be “pork”. Citizens have a full expectation that their elected leaders will bring federal money back to their state/district. Yes, it’s always easy to find wasteful spending, but if everyone wasn’t trying to do get money for their districts/states, then why would they be elected/re-elected at all?

   Comment by Kevin — March 9, 2009 @ 4:33 am - March 9, 2009

5. Citizens have a full expectation that their elected leaders will bring federal money back to their state/district.

   Oh….well….that makes it all good, right? And which “citizens” are these, again?

   Comment by ThatGayConservative — March 9, 2009 @ 4:36 am - March 9, 2009

6. So Kevin, you applauded the Republican spending spree? After all, they were just “trying to do [sic] get money for their districts/states”.

   Good to know.

   Comment by The Livewire — March 9, 2009 @ 8:23 am - March 9, 2009

7. if everyone wasn’t trying to do get money for their districts/states, then why would they be elected/re-elected at all?

   I don’t know, maybe working on legislating in a manner that’s beneficial to the country as a whole. I know it’s a crazy idea, but it’s so crazy, it might just work!

   At least at the state level, Democrats are doing important legislation, like banning the sale of Barbie dolls.

   Comment by V the K — March 9, 2009 @ 8:25 am - March 9, 2009

8. Kevin,

   No one is complaining about representatives trying to make sure their constituents benefit from their tax dollars. People are complaining about earmarks, which are projects and paypacks that no one votes on precisely because the vast majority of it is so inappropriate and wasteful that it wouldn’t withstand a vote.

   If it truly is important or worthwhile spending that the federal government has legitimate business allocating, then it would pass a vote. The very reason it is earmarked, instead of being part of the budget is because it isn’t.

   I’m happy to report that my congressman refuses all earmarks. Which naturally means he’s a Republican.

   Comment by American Elephant — March 9, 2009 @ 8:32 am - March 9, 2009

9. CP. good post, thanks.

   Comment by ILoveCapitalism — March 9, 2009 @ 9:57 am - March 9, 2009

10. No one is complaining about representatives trying to make sure their constituents benefit from their tax dollars.

    Why ever not? Taking FEDERAL dollars and spending them for purely local benefit (“bring federal money back to their state/district”, Kevin’s definition) would be wrong, even if they were being spent for some actual benefit and not just for the Congress person’s friends and ego. Earmarks are simply one bad form of pork, with a cute name.
    

    Citizens have a full expectation that their elected leaders will bring federal money back

    (quoth Kevin) A fine expression of what Lord MacCauley claimed in 1857:
    

    “A democracy cannot survive as a permanent form of government. It can last only until its citizens discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority (who vote) will vote for those candidates promising the greatest benefits from the public purse, with the result that a democracy will always collapse from loose fiscal policies, always followed by a dictatorship. “

    Let’s pray that MacCauley, and Kevin, are wrong and that it is possible for American democracy to return to fiscal sanity and basic moral principles of right and wrong in how it manages its finances.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — March 9, 2009 @ 10:08 am - March 9, 2009

11. #10 – Where have you been since the 1950’s?
    Most Americans want at least some form of the following: good roads, dams, military, public health services, SS, medicare, medicade, welfare, food stamps, unemployment insurance, FDIC, SEC, clean water, sewage systems, public transport, police, fire, 911, parks, clean air, free TV, and more!

    Oh yeah, they want low taxes too.

    We are screwed.

    Comment by gillie — March 9, 2009 @ 10:50 am - March 9, 2009

12. Where have you been since the 1950’s?

    Are you suggesting that pork spending only started happening in the 1950s? Are you suggesting that we lasted 160+ years without it, and have had it only 50+ years? If so, thank you, that would be a help to my points.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — March 9, 2009 @ 11:11 am - March 9, 2009

13. gillie, gillie, gillie…..you are such a naif.

    We have a federal form of government. If your local tax base can not support a dam or a road that is beneficial to several counties or the state in general, then the state helps raise the revenue. When you are talking Interstate Highway systems or TVA size projects that benefit several states of the country in general, then you dip into the national treasury.

    The military is established in Article I and was a national expense from the beginning of our Constitutional nation.

    “SS, medicare, medicade, welfare, food stamps, unemployment insurance, FDIC, ….” are all national programs imposed of the states. They are all broke and their underfunded entitlement indebtedness are well beyond the trillions of dollars of indebtedness that we currently post on the scorecard.

    “Clean water, sewage systems, public transport, police, fire, parks, clean air, and more!” are all state problems. There are federal mandates, but they are not the basic responsibility of the National government.

    SEC, free TV, 911 I have not commented on because they are non sequiturs to your list.

    Your whine about low taxes only tells me that you have never had to calculate your tax expense in regard to your personal budget. There are people who are driven from home ownership because of the property tax burden. There are people who are driven to the far suburbs to find a lesser tax burden.

    If you live in a large city, you may find the cost of parking a car exceeds its utility. You depend on a tax infrastructure that removes mountains of trash every day. You look for a constant policing presence to keep your block under patrol. Clean water to millions stacked on top of one another is a gigantic act of costly municipal genius. You are so dependent of the presence of government that you see it as the essential provider of the general welfare.

    Most of America does not live in cities where they are connected to critical IV’s to the city government. And many people who do live in cities are confronted with broken government systems, where poor schools, pot holes, crime and disruption are the rule.

    You might try a city of under 200,000 and take time watch the city council meetings on TV. The minutiae of “general welfare” nanny-state crap that progressives drag before them is beyond all reason. My town is trying to figure out how to keep up with the Canadian Goose poop.

    Obviously, you are full willing to have the tax base pay for your general welfare. Shouldn’t that include a chicken in every pot and a car in every garage and a two week vacation to a resort all paid by the tax payers?

    Putz! Get your greedy hand out of my pocket and go work for living.

    Comment by heliotrope — March 9, 2009 @ 11:29 am - March 9, 2009

14. I think Kevin and Gillie’s arguments, as always, can be summed up as, “It’s okay when Democrats do it.”

    Comment by V the K — March 9, 2009 @ 11:58 am - March 9, 2009

15. Most Americans want at least some form of the following

    Wanting is one thing. Screaming that they’re entitled to it is quite another.

    The Obama Party uses the same methods as a pedophile — it lures people in with promises of candy or puppies, uses them for its own pleasure, and then threatens to hurt their families if they tell or disobey. How many people do you think would actually support Social Security and Medicare if they knew that it would triple their children’s taxes and drive them into poverty?

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — March 9, 2009 @ 12:52 pm - March 9, 2009

16. The Obama Party uses the same methods as a pedophile

    Such a great analogy that it almost got a laugh from me – but then didn’t, because “it’s too soon”.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — March 9, 2009 @ 1:23 pm - March 9, 2009

17. The Obama Party uses the same methods as a pedophile

    Now, that sounds like a topic for a blogpost.

    Comment by V the K — March 9, 2009 @ 1:27 pm - March 9, 2009

18. The Obama Party uses the same methods as a pedophile…

    Of course, what else would you expect from the party of Gerry Studds, Mel Reynolds, Sam Adams, and Jeff Rosato.

    Comment by V the K — March 9, 2009 @ 1:50 pm - March 9, 2009

19. When I lived in Houston, I volunteered at Cypress Creek EMS. Both CCEMS and the FM 1960 Communications Center are non-profits that run off of dontaions and third-party billing rather than taxes. CCEMS runs all Mobile Intensive Care Units with the latest equipment and the medics can do just about anything an ER can do. CCEMS also has a Bike Medic program for public events and a Tactical Medic program. None of which is at the expense of taxpayers.

    The “robber barons” that liberals love to villify had a knack for having parks, theaters, museums, librarys etc.

    Free TV? I haven’t had free TV in several years. I pay for more options and, generally, better programming. You’ll let me know when TCM becomes free, won’t you?

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — March 9, 2009 @ 6:46 pm - March 9, 2009

20. The “robber barons” that liberals love to villify had a knack for having parks, theaters, museums, librarys etc.

    Left off the word “built”.

    Oh and dams? Haven’t we been dismantling several dams over the last few years because the enviro-commies hold fish in higher regard than humans?

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — March 9, 2009 @ 6:48 pm - March 9, 2009

21. Also left out that they had a knack for raising the production of oil, steel, electricity, cars, etc. by a factor of ten, and/or lowering the costs of those things by a factor of ten or more. You know, drastically raising everyone’s living standards and creating modern life.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — March 9, 2009 @ 6:53 pm - March 9, 2009

22. Most Americans want at least some form of the following: good roads, dams, military, public health services, SS, medicare, medicade, welfare, food stamps, unemployment insurance, FDIC, SEC, clean water, sewage systems, public transport, police, fire, 911, parks, clean air, free TV, and more!

    Regardless of whether these claims are all true or not, obviously some are, NONE of these things are paid for by earmarks.

    Comment by American Elephant — March 9, 2009 @ 7:12 pm - March 9, 2009

23. good roads, dams, military, public health services, SS, medicare, medicade, welfare, food stamps, unemployment insurance, FDIC, SEC, clean water, sewage systems, public transport, police, fire, 911, parks, clean air, free TV, and more!

    Gee, no where in that list do I see $5 Billion in subsidies for ACORN and La Raza, nor do I see Federal subsidies for dog parks, golf courses, tattoo removal, or pig odor research. Nor do I see $275 Billion to bailout financially irresponsible people who took out mortgages they couldn’t afford. Nor do I see $600 Billion for “cap and trade” to fight a phony crisis. Nor do I see $100 Billion in bailouts to states so they can provide gold plated public employee pension systems that are vastly beyond what the private sector offers. Much less do I see the $85 Billion a year Chairman Zero wants to give to Third World Dictators.

    Also, I don’t see why free TV should be provided by the government.

    Comment by V the K — March 9, 2009 @ 7:43 pm - March 9, 2009

24. I’m certainly disappointed in Sen. Inhofe… too bad he can’t learn something from his colleague: Sen. Coburn.

    I’m sure there’s some useful appropriations here and there in the pork list but if they’re useful, there shouldn’t be any problem with getting them through in the light of day; not concealed in some steaming mound of an “omnibus” bill.

    Comment by SoCalRobert — March 9, 2009 @ 7:59 pm - March 9, 2009

25. I reckon this makes for a good explanation of why the Republicans are now, again, the minority party. If the Republicans are acting like Democrats, why not just elect Democrats to begin with. The Republican Party sorely needs to return to its limited-government, fiscally-responsible roots and these characters are not helping any. I can’t say that I’m too pleased to see where my senators and representative stand, there. I would love to know, though, just what little items Kay Bailey Hutchinson was funding that 35 of them totally $9.3 mil.

    Comment by Evan — March 9, 2009 @ 9:04 pm - March 9, 2009

26. Gee, no where in that list do I see $5 Billion in subsidies for ACORN

    That is the best example of the depravity of the Obama Party. You’re talking an organization that openly admits it can’t (and won’t) stop its employees from committing Federal crimes on an epic scale, yet it gets billions of dollars in Federal funding and full protection from Obama and the Obama Party.

    Then again, not paying your taxes is a Federal crime too, and the Obama Party fully endorses and supports that.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — March 9, 2009 @ 9:09 pm - March 9, 2009

27. 25: well, more lies…..the 5.2 Billion for ACORN that people like to throw around is patently false. Check out the facts here: http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_the_stimulus_bill_include_a_52.html

    It boils down to the fact the $5.2B is for community/neighborhood grants. It’s not designated to one single group – hundreds of groups have to vie for this money. I note that one part of the program was begun in the 70s by President Ford. hmmmmm

    Comment by Kevin — March 9, 2009 @ 9:58 pm - March 9, 2009

28. Wow, with all this new found political faux-outrage over earmarks of legendary proportions, you’d think some of the conservatives around here (who have finally found a spine) would have endorsed the biggest, loudest, meanest and most effective voice against earmarks in Congress –former GOP Presidential Candidate John McCain– for office.

    But, oh wait, some of them who comment at GP and elsewhere did NOT because… let’s see… because he was Obama Lite?? Or “it’s time we taught the GOP a lesson”?? Or “he isn’t a real conservative because the NY Times likes him”?? And all the added, equally unconvincing reasons.

    It’s great there’s some outrage over the excessive spending, the earmarks, Congressional pork and all the other easy-to-bitch-about items like the tripling of the natl debt and a doubling of our trade deficit or the expansion of govt’s take of the GDP… but save the faux outrage for the important stuff, ok?

    Like Obama’s plan to cut defense spending by 10-15% each year for the next 4. Like Obama’s plan to cut back on Homeland Security by a similar amount –CBO says it’s 7.5%. Like Obama’s plan to shelf major defense acquistion programs, cut CIA tech funds, close as many as 25 military bases abroad in the next 10 yrs and retask NSC intelligence gathering to focus on activities outside the US.

    We had the chance to make some meaningful progress on earmarks and Congressional excesses but we were all foiled in the last election –by some of the very people griping here the loudest.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — March 9, 2009 @ 10:08 pm - March 9, 2009

29. Oh yeah. John McLandslide was so opposed to wasteful government spending that he suspended his campaign to go back to “Warshington” and vote for a $700B no strings attached Wall Street bailout.

    Go and ahead and try blaming others for the total incompetence of your candidate’s campaign or his complete failure to articulate a compelling reason to vote for him. After all, isn’t blaming other people for your failures the way to achieve success?

    Comment by V the K — March 9, 2009 @ 10:21 pm - March 9, 2009

30. The budget and spending has gotten all screwed up over time. Sure people in the districts want their reps to return some of the money home. But their preference would be for govt to let them keep more of what they earned in the first place. Once you’ve stolen it, sure the locals would rather have it come home to upgrade the Punxsutawney Groundhog Museum, compared to not getting the money back locally at all. Lower taxes, keep the money locally, let locals make better decisions on how to spend their own money and you will have better decisions made. Professional pols know to keep their names recognized, they attempt to sponsor a bridge, building or project. Now we see how this process can get out of hand and totally useless things are funded. I think the answer is to choke off the pig. There is so much money sloshing around federal and state govenments, the people know it can’t all be accounted for. There is where the outrage lies. The feeling of being powerless. Obama promised a different approach. How’s that workingout?

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — March 9, 2009 @ 10:24 pm - March 9, 2009

31. #26: Kevin, even $5.20 in taxpayer funds being given to ACORN is an obscene outrage. With all of the Left’s bluster about Rush and Ann Coulter “destroying the country,” the charge actually applies to that vile, criminal organization. The organization exploits low income Americans by shaking down banks to get them easy loans (threatening the banks with racism campaigns) and then when the debtor inevitably defaults, ACORN self-righteously proclaims that the law doesn’t apply to them or their constituency of fake-victims. They demand that the banks renegotiate the loans (or else) and then if the banks decide to up their credit standards to exclude low-income, lawless deadbeats, ACORN comes a-knockin’ to start the extortion cycle all over again. ACORN CEO Bertha Lewis has a column on Huffpost and routinely goes on TV shows, unapologetically promoting their “right” to ignore contractual obligations and the law and it’s not even considered controversial. This woman should be marginalized as Public Enemy No. 1, but in the age of Obama, she’s considered a tireless warrior for the down-trodden. Every time I think that political correctness has infected our society just enough to provoke a backlash, I see someone like Bertha Lewis rise to power and realize that the PC sickness is still on the move like an aggressive, grapefruit-sized, malignant tumor. The only thing that could possibly send it into retreat is for Lewis to be hauled off of one of her TV appearances in handcuffs, but we’re just too chicken-sh*t to take the heat.

    Comment by Sean A — March 9, 2009 @ 11:06 pm - March 9, 2009

32. fat-disgusting-piggish-. . .thought this was just another blog about RUSH.

    sorry my mistake. Guess it is in style to lambast Teddy because of his brain tumor. . .but you know after going after Michael J Fox…

    oh wait, Nancy is now applauding THE BIG O for his stand on stem cell research.

    wonder what / who our dear leaders in our Congress, both House and Congress, who have deep pockets because of their medical backgrounds will be praising the opening of the door of science and research.

    Comment by rusty — March 9, 2009 @ 11:14 pm - March 9, 2009

33. Actually, rusty, science and research proceeded quite nicely. Indeed, deprived of the easy way out of simply killing children to harvest for cells, researchers took another look at adult stem cells and found out, lo and behold, they seemingly work just as well, have far less potential for rejection, and are much better at not turning into tumors.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — March 9, 2009 @ 11:53 pm - March 9, 2009

34. Guess it is in style to lambast Teddy because of his brain tumor. . .but you know after going after Michael J Fox…

    Guess honesty’s not your forte, eh?

    will be praising the opening of the door of science and research.

    Nobody closed the door of science and research. They could’ve gotten private donations from liberals, if they actually wanted to.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — March 10, 2009 @ 12:13 am - March 10, 2009

35. #31: “oh wait, Nancy is now applauding THE BIG O for his stand on stem cell research. wonder what / who our dear leaders in our Congress, both House and Congress, who have deep pockets because of their medical backgrounds will be praising the opening of the door of science and research.”

    I think it’s important for everyone to take a moment to re-read rusty’s comment above because at first it may have seemed like the usual snide, ignorant, inconsequential stuff posted on GP by the lower-case losers, but a closer look reveals just how morally bankrupt and nihilistic the Left is. rusty is not basking in the triumphant “opening of the door of science and research” because he personally led the charge to victory or has some personal stake in government-funded medical research using embryonic stem cells. The REAL REASON that rusty is praising what Obama did (and in such a snide and mocking manner) is because rusty knows that conservatives find this type of research to be repugnant and immoral, and the idea that taxpayers with unequivocal moral objections to it will now be forced to pay for it is the kind of thing that makes rusty do the happy dance.

    Make no mistake–people like rusty and the applauding Nancy Pelosi don’t give a cr*p about science. In fact, Pelosi is worth over $100 million and is known only for her charitable giving to museums and symphonies (not medical research firms). As for rusty, he just learned to spell “embryonic” this evening. The only time these people ever get excited about science is when (1) it’s morally offensive to Christians, (2) they can find a way to force religious people to subsidize it, and ideally (3) results in the destruction of human embryos.

    There’s nothing in this world that gets Pelosi more fired up than cranking up those dead baby numbers. The woman is so in love with abortion and so obsessed with it that she has actually stated publicly that it stimulates the economy and that the Catholic Church’s opposition to it is just some internal squabling in the congregation that erupted when the Pill was invented and has now ended in a draw, leaving each Catholic to make their own decision as to its moral implications.

    That’s who these people are and what’s important to them. Legitimizing their own immorality by forcing moral people to accept theirs by force. And if you’re rusty, rub it in their faces with snide comments about “science.”

    Comment by Sean A — March 10, 2009 @ 2:06 am - March 10, 2009

36. [...] Obamacrats as Child Molesters Jump to Comments North Dallas Thirty makes this observation: The Obama Party uses the same methods as a pedophile — it lures people in with promises of candy [...]

    Pingback by The Obamacrats as Child Molesters « Teh Resistance Blog — March 10, 2009 @ 4:38 am - March 10, 2009

37. TGC. . .some fiber for your morning:

    “I’m very grateful that President Obama has lifted the restrictions on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research,” the former first lady said in a statement. “These new rule will now make it possible for scientists to move forward.”

    “Countless people, suffering from many different diseases, stand to benefit from the answers stem cell research can provide,” said Reagan, who has long been at odds with other conservative Republicans over the stem cell issue.

    “We owe it to ourselves and to our children to do everything in our power to find cures for these diseases — and soon.”

    NANCY REAGAN

    Comment by rusty — March 10, 2009 @ 8:12 am - March 10, 2009

38. It’s not our fault that Mrs. Reagan is behind on the actual science. It’s difficult to find information about the failures of fetal stem cell research and the sucesses of adult stem cell research.

    Then again, I’m sure someone thought Tuskegee was a good idea too.

    Comment by The Livewire — March 10, 2009 @ 8:58 am - March 10, 2009

39. Then again, I’m sure someone thought Tuskegee was a good idea too.

    Good one.

    Comment by V the K — March 10, 2009 @ 9:20 am - March 10, 2009

40. I love the way rusty assumes that, just because he and his friends have a ‘cult’ mentality where statements from a political leader’s wife should be taken as authoritative (see: Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy’s wife being offered for the Senate, etc.), everybody else in the world should and must be equally stupid.

    It combines several left-liberal traits in one gesture. The narcissism (“everybody operates like me”)… The belief that knowledge and authority are a form of magic, to be transmitted, say, by sexual contact… and several more.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — March 10, 2009 @ 10:57 am - March 10, 2009

41. As for stem cell research – The idea that Bush shut it down is one of the left-liberals’ great, phony myths. Here’s the real scoop:

    - Embryonic stem cell research continued in full swing, under the Bush administration. Scientists simply had to choose from the many pre-existing embryonic stem cell lines, rather than establishing new lines from “harvested” (ugh) embryos.

    - Embryonic stem cells aren’t the only kind of stem cell. Other types, like adult stem cells, are equally good or better, for research.

    - Embryonic stem cells aren’t even the best kind of stem cell, medically. They are medically inferior to using a patient’s own adult stem cells, and the most promising medical research is in that area.

    Thus: No research slowed. No cures prevented. And, correspondingly, no great breakthroughs out there just waiting to be accelerated now; nothing that wasn’t already in the works, under Bush.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — March 10, 2009 @ 11:04 am - March 10, 2009

42. You leave out that private industry and states were free to fund embryonic stem cell research under Bush. What’s baffling is that with Obama’s $2 Trillion deficit, there’s a passion to throw more money at this snake oil.

    Baffling, that is, unless you believe the left’s real agenda is promoting and encouraging more abortions.

    Comment by V the K — March 10, 2009 @ 11:33 am - March 10, 2009

43. an addendum to ILC’s excellent points in #39:

    Stem cell research was not banned world wide by Bush’s executive order. Does littleletterpeople rusty think that research only occurs in the United States?

    After listening to Obama wax on about reversing the government funding ban, I certainly expect him to appoint John Edwards to be Stem Cell Research Czar and get the paralyzed up and walking by election day.

    Comment by heliotrope — March 10, 2009 @ 11:44 am - March 10, 2009

44. What if stem cell research endangers the Snail Darter and adds to global warming? Will we sell stem cell research offsets? Only a Looney Leftist could say for certain.

    Comment by heliotrope — March 10, 2009 @ 11:47 am - March 10, 2009

45. #41: “Baffling, that is, unless you believe the left’s real agenda is promoting and encouraging more abortions.”

    That’s only half of the agenda. The other half is forcing religious people who oppose it to subsidize it with their tax dollars.

    Comment by Sean A — March 10, 2009 @ 12:03 pm - March 10, 2009

46. If the salt march harvest mouse could cure Alzheimer’s, do you think Granny Rictus Botox would tolerate harvesting them? No, I think she cares more for endangered rodents than endangered children.

    Comment by V the K — March 10, 2009 @ 6:24 pm - March 10, 2009

47. VdaK offers, in his best angry white man snark, “Go and ahead and try blaming others for the total incompetence of your candidate’s campaign or his complete failure to articulate a compelling reason to vote for him. After all, isn’t blaming other people for your failures the way to achieve success?”

    Nice attempt at spin, there. Did you used to work for “RushBlow for God”?

    Nawh, there were plenty of mistakes to go around for blame in the 08 election… McCain personally committed some of the jaw-dropping ones, his campaign others, his running mate-slash-cheerleader made enough for your side of the spite spectrum to last a lifetime, the RNC made some, the WH didn’t help much, economic events creating a perfect storm… plus, all the bad branding of the GOP done by the cluelessly cynical soc-con agenda in Congress that pre-dates Bush.

    But the biggest blame magnet are those 4.1m soc-cons who stayed home on Election Day in a disloyal snit and RINO pout. I seem to recall you, V, being one of the cheerleaders for the politically suicidal “Let’s teach the GOP a lesson and just stay home” because 4 yrs of Obama would magically, unicorn-ially somehow bring about the farRight rachet of our political landscape into RushBlow nirvana.

    It isn’t about being a blame merchant and blaming everyone else, my good intentioned but misdirected cynical friend. It’s about your side of the spite spectrum finally stepping up to the plate, accepting responsibility for Obama’s election and moving to the back of the bus for a generation or two.

    But nice try at spin, there.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — March 11, 2009 @ 7:43 am - March 11, 2009

48. the biggest blame magnet are those 4.1m soc-cons who stayed home on Election Day in a disloyal snit and RINO pout

    Way to inspre them to like you, to turn out, etc. Keep it up, MM – you are a hoot!!!

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — March 11, 2009 @ 9:18 am - March 11, 2009

49. (sorry, “inspire”)

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — March 11, 2009 @ 9:18 am - March 11, 2009

50. It’s about your side of the spite spectrum finally stepping up to the plate, accepting responsibility for Obama’s election and moving to the back of the bus for a generation or two.

    Ah, the genius plan of the Republican elites. Tell the social right to “keep voting for us, but expect nothing.” Genius.

    Comment by V the K — March 11, 2009 @ 9:23 am - March 11, 2009

51. V offers: “Ah, the genius plan of the Republican elites. Tell the social right to “keep voting for us, but expect nothing.” Genius”

    More tinfoil hattisms, there V? The GOP gave the soc-cons the convention floor, the platform committee, the rules committee, the Majority and Minority leadership in Congress and endured a long litany of divisive, petty and farRight social issues that ruined the GOP brand.

    We weren’t asking you to vote for nothing. You did that all on your own.

    We asked, after McCain pleaded and Nancy cajoled and responsible conservative leaders acted, to elect McCain. We even saddled him with Sarah Palin for cryin’ out loud –like that would do some good, eh?

    Like I said before, it wouldn’t have mattered if Ronald Reagan had risen from the grave and personally endorsed McCain –you guys were all about the pleasantries of being able to pitch a bitch and nothing was going to get in your way of that alternate reality.

    ILC, yes, you’ve always been tedious. American Elephant noted so.

    By the way, the webamsters at IndieGayForum reversed Mike Airhart’s unilateral move when they discovered that 4 trolls at their site were posting under my name. But don’t let reality get in YOUR special way of pursuing a spiteful approach… it’s you.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — March 11, 2009 @ 9:40 am - March 11, 2009

52. Actually, the truth is, McLandslide was just so awful not even Sarah Palin could drag his sorry RINO a$$ over the finish line.

    Comment by V the K — March 11, 2009 @ 11:24 am - March 11, 2009

53. Wow, it was Sarah-as-Savior now is it?

    Gosh, in that spin cycle you call a mind, V, you are now in hyper-drive.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — March 11, 2009 @ 11:47 am - March 11, 2009

54. Matt,

    You need to back off the vitrol now. I can’t remember the last post I’ve seen from you that wasnt full of bile, insults and vitrol. I don’t know if your Rx ran out or what, but you’re quickly turning from ‘thoughtful commentator’ to hateful characture. For someone so concerned about ‘reaching out’ all you do is give ammunition to those who want to paint Republicans as hateful lunatics.

    As to the ’stay-at-home SoCons’; were it not for Sarahcudda on the ticket, I’d likely have joined those ranks. John McCain was not the most reliable on traditional SoCon issues, but Gov Palin gave hope that he’d listen to the SoCon wing of the party. To quote another Talk Show Radio Host, what are we supposed to do when faced with ‘Poison, or Poison-Lite’?

    President Bush forgot that “you dance with them who brought you” something, for better or worse, Obama seems to remember that rule.

    Your slander of SoCons is also hateful. There is a SoCon immigration policy. Build the fence, then enforce the law. Make it so toxic to businesses to hire illegals that we don’t need to go after the illegals themselves, we remove the oportunities for them, and open up the oportunities for legal employment. That will result in inflation I’d be willing to pay. SoCons can have reasonable disagreements on other issues, and can be wrong. Example: President Bush did the right thing in not listening to the ‘Hell-with-’em-Hawks’ that said to pull out of Iraq and leave the country to infighting. But the answer is to listen and address their concerns, not ignore them because they’ve nowhere else to go. Because who knows? Tomorrow they might.

    I’m asking you as a fellow poster, a fellow conservative, and a fellow human, Calm down. If you have to, walk away from the site for a few days, or pick more deserving targets of opportunity like Amy. You’re not doing yourself, or us, any favours here.

    Comment by The Livewire — March 12, 2009 @ 7:08 am - March 12, 2009

55. The webamsters at IndieGayForum reversed Mike Airhart’s unilateral move when they discovered that 4 trolls at their site were posting under my name

    In that case, MM, you should have no problem offering part or all of the following factual information:

    - A link or other IGF citation for your unbanning. (Since I kindly provided one, in showing your IGF ban.)
    - An example of name-calling on IGF that wasn’t yours. (In the link I provided, some “Michigan-Matt” does a LOT of name-calling… and it all sure sounds like the real you.)
    - Some insight into the terms of your un-banning at IGF. (Again, you do/did so much name-calling in there, for real and in your own name, that surely the leaders of IGF chastised you or asked you to tone it down in the future, as they re-instated you.)

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — March 13, 2009 @ 1:08 am - March 13, 2009

56. As to the ’stay-at-home SoCons’; were it not for Sarahcudda on the ticket, I’d likely have joined those ranks.

    That’s true for me too.

    I am, as may be known by now, more a social liberal. But I promised myself I’d never vote for McCain after the un-Constitutional, un-American horror of McCain-Feingold. His shamnesty, global warmism, anti-business remarks and many other offenses sealed that deal. I was ready to sit the election out. I had to relent a little when I understood that he’d been great on The Surge. But what really brought me on was Sarah Palin: a genuine, self-made woman with wonderful common sense, American values and genuine fiscal conservatism. Only after McCain picked Palin did I decide that, OK, I could stand to vote for him. And I did.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — March 13, 2009 @ 3:23 am - March 13, 2009

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