As to the ’stay-at-home SoCons’; were it not for Sarahcudda on the ticket, I’d likely have joined those ranks.

That’s true for me too.

I am, as may be known by now, more a social liberal. But I promised myself I’d never vote for McCain after the un-Constitutional, un-American horror of McCain-Feingold. His shamnesty, global warmism, anti-business remarks and many other offenses sealed that deal. I was ready to sit the election out. I had to relent a little when I understood that he’d been great on The Surge. But what really brought me on was Sarah Palin: a genuine, self-made woman with wonderful common sense, American values and genuine fiscal conservatism. Only after McCain picked Palin did I decide that, OK, I could stand to vote for him. And I did.

The webamsters at IndieGayForum reversed Mike Airhart’s unilateral move when they discovered that 4 trolls at their site were posting under my name

In that case, MM, you should have no problem offering part or all of the following factual information:

- A link or other IGF citation for your unbanning. (Since I kindly provided one, in showing your IGF ban.)
- An example of name-calling on IGF that wasn’t yours. (In the link I provided, some “Michigan-Matt” does a LOT of name-calling… and it all sure sounds like the real you.)
- Some insight into the terms of your un-banning at IGF. (Again, you do/did so much name-calling in there, for real and in your own name, that surely the leaders of IGF chastised you or asked you to tone it down in the future, as they re-instated you.)

You need to back off the vitrol now. I can’t remember the last post I’ve seen from you that wasnt full of bile, insults and vitrol. I don’t know if your Rx ran out or what, but you’re quickly turning from ‘thoughtful commentator’ to hateful characture. For someone so concerned about ‘reaching out’ all you do is give ammunition to those who want to paint Republicans as hateful lunatics.

As to the ‘stay-at-home SoCons’; were it not for Sarahcudda on the ticket, I’d likely have joined those ranks. John McCain was not the most reliable on traditional SoCon issues, but Gov Palin gave hope that he’d listen to the SoCon wing of the party. To quote another Talk Show Radio Host, what are we supposed to do when faced with ‘Poison, or Poison-Lite’?

President Bush forgot that “you dance with them who brought you” something, for better or worse, Obama seems to remember that rule.

Your slander of SoCons is also hateful. There is a SoCon immigration policy. Build the fence, then enforce the law. Make it so toxic to businesses to hire illegals that we don’t need to go after the illegals themselves, we remove the oportunities for them, and open up the oportunities for legal employment. That will result in inflation I’d be willing to pay. SoCons can have reasonable disagreements on other issues, and can be wrong. Example: President Bush did the right thing in not listening to the ‘Hell-with-’em-Hawks’ that said to pull out of Iraq and leave the country to infighting. But the answer is to listen and address their concerns, not ignore them because they’ve nowhere else to go. Because who knows? Tomorrow they might.

I’m asking you as a fellow poster, a fellow conservative, and a fellow human, Calm down. If you have to, walk away from the site for a few days, or pick more deserving targets of opportunity like Amy. You’re not doing yourself, or us, any favours here.

Gosh, in that spin cycle you call a mind, V, you are now in hyper-drive.

More tinfoil hattisms, there V? The GOP gave the soc-cons the convention floor, the platform committee, the rules committee, the Majority and Minority leadership in Congress and endured a long litany of divisive, petty and farRight social issues that ruined the GOP brand.

We weren’t asking you to vote for nothing. You did that all on your own.

We asked, after McCain pleaded and Nancy cajoled and responsible conservative leaders acted, to elect McCain. We even saddled him with Sarah Palin for cryin’ out loud –like that would do some good, eh?

Like I said before, it wouldn’t have mattered if Ronald Reagan had risen from the grave and personally endorsed McCain –you guys were all about the pleasantries of being able to pitch a bitch and nothing was going to get in your way of that alternate reality.

ILC, yes, you’ve always been tedious. American Elephant noted so.

By the way, the webamsters at IndieGayForum reversed Mike Airhart’s unilateral move when they discovered that 4 trolls at their site were posting under my name. But don’t let reality get in YOUR special way of pursuing a spiteful approach… it’s you.

It’s about your side of the spite spectrum finally stepping up to the plate, accepting responsibility for Obama’s election and moving to the back of the bus for a generation or two.

Ah, the genius plan of the Republican elites. Tell the social right to “keep voting for us, but expect nothing.” Genius.

the biggest blame magnet are those 4.1m soc-cons who stayed home on Election Day in a disloyal snit and RINO pout

Way to inspre them to like you, to turn out, etc. Keep it up, MM – you are a hoot!!!

Nice attempt at spin, there. Did you used to work for “RushBlow for God”?

Nawh, there were plenty of mistakes to go around for blame in the 08 election… McCain personally committed some of the jaw-dropping ones, his campaign others, his running mate-slash-cheerleader made enough for your side of the spite spectrum to last a lifetime, the RNC made some, the WH didn’t help much, economic events creating a perfect storm… plus, all the bad branding of the GOP done by the cluelessly cynical soc-con agenda in Congress that pre-dates Bush.

But the biggest blame magnet are those 4.1m soc-cons who stayed home on Election Day in a disloyal snit and RINO pout. I seem to recall you, V, being one of the cheerleaders for the politically suicidal “Let’s teach the GOP a lesson and just stay home” because 4 yrs of Obama would magically, unicorn-ially somehow bring about the farRight rachet of our political landscape into RushBlow nirvana.

It isn’t about being a blame merchant and blaming everyone else, my good intentioned but misdirected cynical friend. It’s about your side of the spite spectrum finally stepping up to the plate, accepting responsibility for Obama’s election and moving to the back of the bus for a generation or two.

But nice try at spin, there.

That’s only half of the agenda. The other half is forcing religious people who oppose it to subsidize it with their tax dollars.

Stem cell research was not banned world wide by Bush’s executive order. Does littleletterpeople rusty think that research only occurs in the United States?

After listening to Obama wax on about reversing the government funding ban, I certainly expect him to appoint John Edwards to be Stem Cell Research Czar and get the paralyzed up and walking by election day.

Baffling, that is, unless you believe the left’s real agenda is promoting and encouraging more abortions.

- Embryonic stem cell research continued in full swing, under the Bush administration. Scientists simply had to choose from the many pre-existing embryonic stem cell lines, rather than establishing new lines from “harvested” (ugh) embryos.

- Embryonic stem cells aren’t the only kind of stem cell. Other types, like adult stem cells, are equally good or better, for research.

- Embryonic stem cells aren’t even the best kind of stem cell, medically. They are medically inferior to using a patient’s own adult stem cells, and the most promising medical research is in that area.

Thus: No research slowed. No cures prevented. And, correspondingly, no great breakthroughs out there just waiting to be accelerated now; nothing that wasn’t already in the works, under Bush.

It combines several left-liberal traits in one gesture. The narcissism (“everybody operates like me”)… The belief that knowledge and authority are a form of magic, to be transmitted, say, by sexual contact… and several more.