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		<title>By: GayPatriot &#187; Of Comments &#38; Civility, III</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayPatriot &#187; Of Comments &#38; Civility, III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 06:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this &#8220;under control.&#8221;Â  And I&#8217;ve been trying to do that, posting this just two weeks ago: All too often alas, those who chime in to defend Bruce or me compromise some [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this &#8220;under control.&#8221;Â  And I&#8217;ve been trying to do that, posting this just two weeks ago: All too often alas, those who chime in to defend Bruce or me compromise some [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/03/25/a-word-on-comments-a-plea-for-civil-discourse/comment-page-2/#comment-396255</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#83 - M-Matt, here&#039;s my biggest argument for reforming the GOP:

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/03/27/hatch-dedicates-6-billion-giveserve-boondoggle-to-kennedy-plus-mandatory-service-study-lives/

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#83 &#8211; M-Matt, here&#8217;s my biggest argument for reforming the GOP:</p>
<p><a href="http://michellemalkin.com/2009/03/27/hatch-dedicates-6-billion-giveserve-boondoggle-to-kennedy-plus-mandatory-service-study-lives/" rel="nofollow">http://michellemalkin.com/2009/03/27/hatch-dedicates-6-billion-giveserve-boondoggle-to-kennedy-plus-mandatory-service-study-lives/</a></p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: heliotrope</title>
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		<dc:creator>heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#83 Michigan-Matt tells Peter&lt;blockquote&gt;You know Peter, we would have more Republicans in the Senate and not need to worry about a functional filibuster if RINOs hadnâ€™t been systematically exterminated for the last two election cycles by soc-cons Hell bent on purifying the raceâ€¦ ooops, I mean Party.&lt;/blockquote&gt;The time has come for Michigan-Matt to lay out the top 10 reasons we should vote for Moderate Republicans.

These will be policy points not offered/allowed by the soc-cons and uniquely different from Democrat policy points. (Uniquely different in that they would not be considered to be Democrat lite.)

Bring it on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#83 Michigan-Matt tells Peter<br />
<blockquote>You know Peter, we would have more Republicans in the Senate and not need to worry about a functional filibuster if RINOs hadnâ€™t been systematically exterminated for the last two election cycles by soc-cons Hell bent on purifying the raceâ€¦ ooops, I mean Party.</p></blockquote>
<p>The time has come for Michigan-Matt to lay out the top 10 reasons we should vote for Moderate Republicans.</p>
<p>These will be policy points not offered/allowed by the soc-cons and uniquely different from Democrat policy points. (Uniquely different in that they would not be considered to be Democrat lite.)</p>
<p>Bring it on.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I can almost hear you say: â€œMuggles are a filthy sort. We Pure Bloods families know.â€&lt;/blockquote&gt;And so MM returns to calling his opponents racists.  In a thread on civility.  MM, again: see Bruce #61, with a focus on the first two sentences and the last two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I can almost hear you say: â€œMuggles are a filthy sort. We Pure Bloods families know.â€</p></blockquote>
<p>And so MM returns to calling his opponents racists.  In a thread on civility.  MM, again: see Bruce #61, with a focus on the first two sentences and the last two.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/03/25/a-word-on-comments-a-plea-for-civil-discourse/comment-page-2/#comment-395868</link>
		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Michigan-Matt, but you ran exactly what you wanted in the 2008 Presidential elections -- an unprincipled antireligious anti-social-conservative individual who pandered to and gave the Obama Party whatever it wanted in the name of &quot;bipartisanship&quot; -- and got your tails kicked.

Looks like that attempt to appeal to &quot;moderates&quot; and &quot;independents&quot; by being Obama Lites didn&#039;t work too well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Michigan-Matt, but you ran exactly what you wanted in the 2008 Presidential elections &#8212; an unprincipled antireligious anti-social-conservative individual who pandered to and gave the Obama Party whatever it wanted in the name of &#8220;bipartisanship&#8221; &#8212; and got your tails kicked.</p>
<p>Looks like that attempt to appeal to &#8220;moderates&#8221; and &#8220;independents&#8221; by being Obama Lites didn&#8217;t work too well.</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/03/25/a-word-on-comments-a-plea-for-civil-discourse/comment-page-2/#comment-395823</link>
		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 06:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter notes &quot;My only hope now is that we have enough Republicans with cojones in the Senate to filibuster any of The Snobâ€™s judicial picks. God knows we donâ€™t need another loose constructionist like Ginsburg or Breyer on SCOTUS.&quot;

You know Peter, we would have more Republicans in the Senate and not need to worry about a functional filibuster if RINOs hadn&#039;t been systematically exterminated for the last two election cycles by soc-cons Hell bent on purifying the race... ooops, I mean Party.

And of course, we wouldn&#039;t need to worry about the President&#039;s picks if he had been a GOPer in office because THAT man promised he&#039;d appoint justices in the mold of Alito (who he helped get onto the Court) and Roberts and Scalia.

I guess now we&#039;ve all been put in a bad spot --somehow between a rock and hard place.  It&#039;s why I argued back in the Fall 08 with some here that the lasting legacy of the soc-con snite fit over McCain might very well be the SCOTUS make up.

And folks here have had the gumption to say there was no reason to vote for McCain-Palin?

Really.  And does this finally prove the point for the thicker headed lot?  And I don&#039;t mean you, Peter.

Yeah, didn&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter notes &#8220;My only hope now is that we have enough Republicans with cojones in the Senate to filibuster any of The Snobâ€™s judicial picks. God knows we donâ€™t need another loose constructionist like Ginsburg or Breyer on SCOTUS.&#8221;</p>
<p>You know Peter, we would have more Republicans in the Senate and not need to worry about a functional filibuster if RINOs hadn&#8217;t been systematically exterminated for the last two election cycles by soc-cons Hell bent on purifying the race&#8230; ooops, I mean Party.</p>
<p>And of course, we wouldn&#8217;t need to worry about the President&#8217;s picks if he had been a GOPer in office because THAT man promised he&#8217;d appoint justices in the mold of Alito (who he helped get onto the Court) and Roberts and Scalia.</p>
<p>I guess now we&#8217;ve all been put in a bad spot &#8211;somehow between a rock and hard place.  It&#8217;s why I argued back in the Fall 08 with some here that the lasting legacy of the soc-con snite fit over McCain might very well be the SCOTUS make up.</p>
<p>And folks here have had the gumption to say there was no reason to vote for McCain-Palin?</p>
<p>Really.  And does this finally prove the point for the thicker headed lot?  And I don&#8217;t mean you, Peter.</p>
<p>Yeah, didn&#8217;t think so.</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/03/25/a-word-on-comments-a-plea-for-civil-discourse/comment-page-2/#comment-395819</link>
		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 06:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, did she die of cancer while still blocked or did she make it to the Court... you&#039;ve said both now.  And frankly, you made it sound like the Gang of 14&#039;s compromise somehow caused her cancer and death?

&quot;Thanks, Maverick&quot;?  Was that legit or was that just drama?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, did she die of cancer while still blocked or did she make it to the Court&#8230; you&#8217;ve said both now.  And frankly, you made it sound like the Gang of 14&#8242;s compromise somehow caused her cancer and death?</p>
<p>&#8220;Thanks, Maverick&#8221;?  Was that legit or was that just drama?</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/03/25/a-word-on-comments-a-plea-for-civil-discourse/comment-page-2/#comment-395811</link>
		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 05:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>V offers, dusting off an earlier thread, &quot;This is also a personal issue for me. One of Bushâ€™s blocked judicial nominees was a family friend and a thoroughly delightful woman. She died of cancer while still blocked. Thanks, Maverick.&quot;

Sorry for your loss, V.  I&#039;m thinking that for you to ascribe that to John McCain, though, is sort of ... I don&#039;t know, intellectually dishonest.

McCain was one of the 14 and the work of the Senate is compromise; it&#039;s not about Truth Tests and Purity Policy Panels.  The Gang of 14 got 5 strict constructionist, solidly conservative youngish judges out of a hole that Frist&#039;s failed leadership had allowed them to flounder.  The Gang of 14, then under McCain&#039;s leadership, got Alito onto the bench.

I get it you have a personal axe to grind.  It animates a lot of your resentments here and elsewhere.  But we wouldn&#039;t have the benefit of those 6 jurists if McCain hadn&#039;t had the courage and conviction to break free of the Frist failure in leadership and find a workable solution.

You&#039;d have preferred to have Frist try the Nuke Option?  Ok, then screw the Senate&#039;s operational traditions... because if you had wanted that, there would be no stopping the Senate now that the GOP is in a minority.

And why is it in a minority?  Oh yeah, because you think the political suicide of getting rid of RINOs is worth the bloodshed.  I can almost hear you say: &quot;Muggles are a filthy sort.  We Pure Bloods families know.&quot;

Sorry about your family friend and the loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V offers, dusting off an earlier thread, &#8220;This is also a personal issue for me. One of Bushâ€™s blocked judicial nominees was a family friend and a thoroughly delightful woman. She died of cancer while still blocked. Thanks, Maverick.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry for your loss, V.  I&#8217;m thinking that for you to ascribe that to John McCain, though, is sort of &#8230; I don&#8217;t know, intellectually dishonest.</p>
<p>McCain was one of the 14 and the work of the Senate is compromise; it&#8217;s not about Truth Tests and Purity Policy Panels.  The Gang of 14 got 5 strict constructionist, solidly conservative youngish judges out of a hole that Frist&#8217;s failed leadership had allowed them to flounder.  The Gang of 14, then under McCain&#8217;s leadership, got Alito onto the bench.</p>
<p>I get it you have a personal axe to grind.  It animates a lot of your resentments here and elsewhere.  But we wouldn&#8217;t have the benefit of those 6 jurists if McCain hadn&#8217;t had the courage and conviction to break free of the Frist failure in leadership and find a workable solution.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d have preferred to have Frist try the Nuke Option?  Ok, then screw the Senate&#8217;s operational traditions&#8230; because if you had wanted that, there would be no stopping the Senate now that the GOP is in a minority.</p>
<p>And why is it in a minority?  Oh yeah, because you think the political suicide of getting rid of RINOs is worth the bloodshed.  I can almost hear you say: &#8220;Muggles are a filthy sort.  We Pure Bloods families know.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry about your family friend and the loss.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should amend, she finally did make it to the court after four years of Democrat blockade, only to die a year later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should amend, she finally did make it to the court after four years of Democrat blockade, only to die a year later.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/03/25/a-word-on-comments-a-plea-for-civil-discourse/comment-page-2/#comment-395410</link>
		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the effect of the Gang of 14 is open enough to debate that no one side ought to be able to accuse the other of arguing from a position of intellectual dishonesty. 

The judge in question was Judge Susan Bieke Neilson. If her judicial views were consistent with the general worldview she shared with me over a raucous dinner in Palm Desert one Spring evening, she would have been a crackerjack judge, God rest her soul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the effect of the Gang of 14 is open enough to debate that no one side ought to be able to accuse the other of arguing from a position of intellectual dishonesty. </p>
<p>The judge in question was Judge Susan Bieke Neilson. If her judicial views were consistent with the general worldview she shared with me over a raucous dinner in Palm Desert one Spring evening, she would have been a crackerjack judge, God rest her soul.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>V, sorry to hear about your friend.  I would love to read up on her sometime and her views from the bench.

My only hope now is that we have enough Republicans with cojones in the Senate to filibuster any of The Snob&#039;s judicial picks.  God knows we don&#039;t need another loose constructionist like Ginsburg or Breyer on SCOTUS.

Plus, it would be poetic justice for the GOP to use the same tactics the Dhimmicrats used to block constructionist judges - or, as I like to call them, those who practice judicial restraint - from the bench.  

Of course, with RINOs like the two Maine sen&#039;s and Arlen Specter (PA), that&#039;s a lot to hope for.  I for one hope that Toomey defeats Specter in Pennsylvania&#039;s 2010 GOP primary. (Maybe Gene can give us some insight as to what&#039;s going on over there.)

And I&#039;m REALLY hoping to hear the leftists out there bemoan the Senate GOP as being &quot;obstructionist&quot; so I can throw it back in their faces in spades.  If anyone was being obstructionist, it was the Senate Dhimmicrats under first Tom Daschle and now Harry Reid.

Of course, The Snob could get a great bounce in the bipartisan department by picking a great judge like Janice Rodgers Brown from the DC circuit, which would make history as the first black woman on SCOTUS.  Then again, she&#039;s not a self-loathing perpetual victim so it will probably be a moot point under Reid &amp; Co.

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V, sorry to hear about your friend.  I would love to read up on her sometime and her views from the bench.</p>
<p>My only hope now is that we have enough Republicans with cojones in the Senate to filibuster any of The Snob&#8217;s judicial picks.  God knows we don&#8217;t need another loose constructionist like Ginsburg or Breyer on SCOTUS.</p>
<p>Plus, it would be poetic justice for the GOP to use the same tactics the Dhimmicrats used to block constructionist judges &#8211; or, as I like to call them, those who practice judicial restraint &#8211; from the bench.  </p>
<p>Of course, with RINOs like the two Maine sen&#8217;s and Arlen Specter (PA), that&#8217;s a lot to hope for.  I for one hope that Toomey defeats Specter in Pennsylvania&#8217;s 2010 GOP primary. (Maybe Gene can give us some insight as to what&#8217;s going on over there.)</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m REALLY hoping to hear the leftists out there bemoan the Senate GOP as being &#8220;obstructionist&#8221; so I can throw it back in their faces in spades.  If anyone was being obstructionist, it was the Senate Dhimmicrats under first Tom Daschle and now Harry Reid.</p>
<p>Of course, The Snob could get a great bounce in the bipartisan department by picking a great judge like Janice Rodgers Brown from the DC circuit, which would make history as the first black woman on SCOTUS.  Then again, she&#8217;s not a self-loathing perpetual victim so it will probably be a moot point under Reid &amp; Co.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: Ignatius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ignatius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Iâ€™m not some hypocrite claiming to be the epitome of civility in one thread while being downright obnoxious in another.&lt;/i&gt;

No, you&#039;re a hypocrite of a far worse type:  religious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Iâ€™m not some hypocrite claiming to be the epitome of civility in one thread while being downright obnoxious in another.</i></p>
<p>No, you&#8217;re a hypocrite of a far worse type:  religious.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/03/25/a-word-on-comments-a-plea-for-civil-discourse/comment-page-2/#comment-395392</link>
		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact is, John McCain saved the filibuster as a tool for Democrats to use against constructionist judges. In fact, that was precisely the goal of the Gang of 14, as John McCain himself stated. 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OTI2NzVjYzY5MGZkMDMzOWVkMjMyNzhlZjQ2Njg0Y2Y=&amp;w=MA==&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I am not unique in this analysis&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact is, John McCain saved the filibuster as a tool for Democrats to use against constructionist judges. In fact, that was precisely the goal of the Gang of 14, as John McCain himself stated. </p>
<p><a href="http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OTI2NzVjYzY5MGZkMDMzOWVkMjMyNzhlZjQ2Njg0Y2Y=&amp;w=MA==" rel="nofollow">I am not unique in this analysis</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;V.... contends that others didnâ€™t make it and McCain had to deal with RINOs, Democrats and liberals to get the job done.&lt;/i&gt;

33 judicial vacancies were left unfilled because McCain would not allow the filibuster to be temporarily suspended against Bush&#039;s judicial nominees. 

This is also a personal issue for me. One of Bush&#039;s blocked judicial nominees was a family friend and a thoroughly delightful woman. She died of cancer while still blocked. Thanks, Maverick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>V&#8230;. contends that others didnâ€™t make it and McCain had to deal with RINOs, Democrats and liberals to get the job done.</i></p>
<p>33 judicial vacancies were left unfilled because McCain would not allow the filibuster to be temporarily suspended against Bush&#8217;s judicial nominees. </p>
<p>This is also a personal issue for me. One of Bush&#8217;s blocked judicial nominees was a family friend and a thoroughly delightful woman. She died of cancer while still blocked. Thanks, Maverick.</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a response reposing in the Spamfiltered segment of the this blog, V... I think maybe my 1st today where other days it seems out of 10 posts, 8 get trapped.

Hey, does anyone know of any informative article out there that explains how wordpress spam filters work?  I&#039;d really like to learn more... frankly, I wish I could install a spam filter on the kid&#039;s TV time without having to sit there during spongebob or andy griffith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a response reposing in the Spamfiltered segment of the this blog, V&#8230; I think maybe my 1st today where other days it seems out of 10 posts, 8 get trapped.</p>
<p>Hey, does anyone know of any informative article out there that explains how wordpress spam filters work?  I&#8217;d really like to learn more&#8230; frankly, I wish I could install a spam filter on the kid&#8217;s TV time without having to sit there during spongebob or andy griffith.</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ILC offers: &quot;MM, take a wise hint: see Bruce #61.&quot;

Umm, ILC, thanks for the free advice.  I don&#039;t think Bruce was talking about me... I had already embraced his and Dan&#039;s request for civility... unlike some who immediately and forcefully took exception.

I think you need to learn why free advice is usually useless and from you it&#039;s usually just masquerading as a dig and false gentility.  I did offer my remarks to Draybee were given as jokes.  Maybe a thickening up of skin for you is indicated?  Or were you taking issue with the notion that you&#039;ve lost most of the intellectual debates here?

V contends: &quot;Not very intellectually honest of you&quot;.  Umm, V, you were the one who offered what I labeled as political suicide for the GOP... namely a nomination of RonPaul in 2012.

Was it in context?  Sure, that&#039;s what you suggested and that is consistent with your earlier advice for 2008&#039;s election and teaching the GOP a lesson.. soc-cons stay home.

V, it&#039;s sort of like the guy who is intellectually dishonest about debating the merits or demerits of McCain&#039;s candidacy in the last few threads... he suggested that McCain was scum for being part of the Gang of 14 and then, when it was pointed out that nominations were at a political logjam, Frist was threatening a nuclear option where none was needed, the Gang of 14 got a bunch of solid, strict constructionist jurists into the federal courts and saved Alito&#039;s nomination... he contends that others didn&#039;t make it and McCain had to deal with RINOs, Democrats and liberals to get the job done.

Intellectual honesty is like beauty, V.  It&#039;s in the eye of the beholder.  Just don&#039;t confuse it with being able to fully state your opinion, whether informed or not.  I haven&#039;t with you.

To wish RonPaul on anyone is a Death Wish.  That&#039;s why I&#039;d like him to move over to the Libertarians where he truly belongs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ILC offers: &#8220;MM, take a wise hint: see Bruce #61.&#8221;</p>
<p>Umm, ILC, thanks for the free advice.  I don&#8217;t think Bruce was talking about me&#8230; I had already embraced his and Dan&#8217;s request for civility&#8230; unlike some who immediately and forcefully took exception.</p>
<p>I think you need to learn why free advice is usually useless and from you it&#8217;s usually just masquerading as a dig and false gentility.  I did offer my remarks to Draybee were given as jokes.  Maybe a thickening up of skin for you is indicated?  Or were you taking issue with the notion that you&#8217;ve lost most of the intellectual debates here?</p>
<p>V contends: &#8220;Not very intellectually honest of you&#8221;.  Umm, V, you were the one who offered what I labeled as political suicide for the GOP&#8230; namely a nomination of RonPaul in 2012.</p>
<p>Was it in context?  Sure, that&#8217;s what you suggested and that is consistent with your earlier advice for 2008&#8242;s election and teaching the GOP a lesson.. soc-cons stay home.</p>
<p>V, it&#8217;s sort of like the guy who is intellectually dishonest about debating the merits or demerits of McCain&#8217;s candidacy in the last few threads&#8230; he suggested that McCain was scum for being part of the Gang of 14 and then, when it was pointed out that nominations were at a political logjam, Frist was threatening a nuclear option where none was needed, the Gang of 14 got a bunch of solid, strict constructionist jurists into the federal courts and saved Alito&#8217;s nomination&#8230; he contends that others didn&#8217;t make it and McCain had to deal with RINOs, Democrats and liberals to get the job done.</p>
<p>Intellectual honesty is like beauty, V.  It&#8217;s in the eye of the beholder.  Just don&#8217;t confuse it with being able to fully state your opinion, whether informed or not.  I haven&#8217;t with you.</p>
<p>To wish RonPaul on anyone is a Death Wish.  That&#8217;s why I&#8217;d like him to move over to the Libertarians where he truly belongs.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;you hoped the GOP would nominate RonPaul in 2012â€¦ which, in my opinion, would be more political suicide for the Party&lt;/i&gt;

There you go again, Miss Congeniality, dishonestly distorting the context of another commenter&#039;s statement. Which was &quot;I would like to see Ron Paul nominated for the sheer entertainment value &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;If the GOP is doomed to lose in 2012 anyway&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; (like if the economy recovers and the Teleprompter&#039;s approval ratings are at 97%).  

Not very intellectually honest of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>you hoped the GOP would nominate RonPaul in 2012â€¦ which, in my opinion, would be more political suicide for the Party</i></p>
<p>There you go again, Miss Congeniality, dishonestly distorting the context of another commenter&#8217;s statement. Which was &#8220;I would like to see Ron Paul nominated for the sheer entertainment value <b><i>If the GOP is doomed to lose in 2012 anyway</i></b> (like if the economy recovers and the Teleprompter&#8217;s approval ratings are at 97%).  </p>
<p>Not very intellectually honest of you.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MM, take a wise hint: see Bruce #61.</description>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Draybee, thanks :-)  The older Simpsons episodes rule!  Though I&#039;ve heard that the new ones are getting better again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Draybee, thanks <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   The older Simpsons episodes rule!  Though I&#8217;ve heard that the new ones are getting better again.</p>
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		<title>By: CR</title>
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		<dc:creator>CR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I do give V the K credit for his honesty.  He has plainly said (here and previously) he comes here for fun and really doesn&#039;t care.  Whatever my personal opinion may be of him, his opinions or his posts (I tend not to read them anymore), he is honest about who he is and what he&#039;s about on these threads.  If for nothing else, I do respect him for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I do give V the K credit for his honesty.  He has plainly said (here and previously) he comes here for fun and really doesn&#8217;t care.  Whatever my personal opinion may be of him, his opinions or his posts (I tend not to read them anymore), he is honest about who he is and what he&#8217;s about on these threads.  If for nothing else, I do respect him for that.</p>
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