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Ann Althouse Takes Andrew Sullivan to the Woodshed

March 31, 2009 by GayPatriotWest

There was a time when Andrew Sullivan could make a serious argument for state recognition of same-sex marriages. Now when he talks about the subject, he can’t seem to see beyond the “legal rights” issue, as if without state sanction, his marriage wouldn’t mean anything.

And now, he sees a straight blogress’s upcoming marriage as an object of ridicule. Yesterday, he linked a left-wing blog mocking Ann Althouse’s impending nuptials to someone who comments to her blog. In so doing, he showed his confusion about what marriage is, something he once understood pretty well. After that diva called him on his “disrespectful” post, he fired back, ignoring her criticism and focusing on his own views, “I’m all in favor of the right of straight bloggers to marry their straight commenters. It’s a civil right.”

Is that all it is, Andrew, a civil right? Interesting that that’s how he would choose to address the controversy, reducing it to a right.

Althouse never one to mince words (hence her diva status) called Andrew on missing the point:

This isn’t about legal rights. This is about how individuals treat each other, and I want to know why you disrespected me. Explain why you linked to Pandagon’s scurrilous OMFG, which, as you know, means “Oh, my fucking God.” Is that the way you mean to speak to me? Is that the way you talk about God?

In Andrew’s eagerness to link a left-wing blogger to attack a more moderate one (who happened to have endorsed the same presidential candidate he did), he shows once again that he has long since left the conservative fold, even as he calls himself conservative.

What conservative would link a left-wing blogger to mock the impending nuptials of a centrist blogress?

Filed Under: Blogging, Blogress Divas, Civil Discourse, Ex-Conservatives, Gay Marriage

Comments

  1. ILoveCapitalism says

    March 31, 2009 at 12:32 pm - March 31, 2009

    GPW, interesting that you linked Sullivan but not Althouse. I should think Althouse merits it better.

  2. Peter Hughes says

    March 31, 2009 at 12:59 pm - March 31, 2009

    Miss Sullington, you just got PWNED by a real diva. Admit defeat gracefully and just go walk the dog to your local leather bar.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

  3. The Livewire says

    March 31, 2009 at 1:14 pm - March 31, 2009

    Please Peter…

    Leather bars have -some- standards.

  4. Peter Hughes says

    March 31, 2009 at 1:17 pm - March 31, 2009

    #3 – You obviously never went to the Ripcord in Houston.

    Standards? What standards? 😉

    Regards,
    Peter H.

  5. The Livewire says

    March 31, 2009 at 1:48 pm - March 31, 2009

    Nope just here in Ohio, before I went all Hermity.

  6. EssEm says

    March 31, 2009 at 1:49 pm - March 31, 2009

    Andrew. What a waste. Before his Bush-Related Nervous Breakdown, he was practically my hero. His debate at the New School in 2002 with the execrable Richard Goldstein was a pleasure to watch. Now I’d sooner read the platform of the Democrat Party. Such a shame.

  7. Ted says

    March 31, 2009 at 2:25 pm - March 31, 2009

    I’ve always thought that promoting Sullivan as a spokesman for gay marriage was a very bad idea. This is someone who openly defended his behavior after he was found advertising for barebacking orgies while HIV+. Afterwards, he said he had nothing to regret.

    There are so many other gay men who are truly Conservative and could be considered role models. I’ve never understood why someone so tainted was chosen to put a public face on gay relationships. In the past, Sullivan used to frequently write about being in an open relationship and travelling around the country to different leather sex fests. The whole thing makes us look like sexually obsessed freaks.

  8. Leah says

    March 31, 2009 at 3:36 pm - March 31, 2009

    Sully can’t hold a candle to Ann Althouse, he is such a whiner. This is why he is upset with Ann,

    It’s a civil right. And more than I am currently allowed after living with my husband for almost five years.

    The guy is so mean spirited, it’s all about him. He doesn’t have state recognition – so his relationship is worthless, which is probably is despite his so called marriage last summer. (Any other normal person would see the value of his ceremony and relationship regardless of the State stamp of approval)

    As to him calling himself conservative, it’s the only way he’ll get noticed these days, as an ‘enlightened’ conservative. When all he is, is a befuddled mean man.

  9. gillie says

    March 31, 2009 at 8:18 pm - March 31, 2009

    Huh?

    You rail against “OMFG”???? You say that linking to a lefty who attacks a moderate proves he is not a conservative????

    Does that fails every single logic test known to mankind or am I missing something?
    OK! you don’t like Sully, then don’t read his blog, or critique his ideas. But this???

    I have to ask, are you being purposly obtuse?

  10. GayPatriotWest says

    March 31, 2009 at 8:35 pm - March 31, 2009

    Gillie, I’m being rhetorical. Do you get what that is? Anyone who reads this blog should recognize by now my rhetorical style.

    That said, this is just one example of who Andrew Sullivan has become, relying on a left-wing blog to trash a centrist. Think about it for a minute.

    Let me spell this out for you, this shows who he reads and whose judgment he trusts.

    So, in conclusion, I have to ask, are you deliberately contrarian?

  11. ILoveCapitalism says

    March 31, 2009 at 8:45 pm - March 31, 2009

    Andrew Sullivan is not a conservative.

    Even I know that. I’m not one… and Andrew Sullivan is definitely to the left of me. There is a veritable constellation of evidence: the fact that he reads, respects and quotes left-wing blogs *at their lowest* is only the latest bit of evidence.

  12. SoCalRobert says

    March 31, 2009 at 9:04 pm - March 31, 2009

    What was Sully’s point? Ann Althouse and her fiance get married after a whirlwind romance. That’s news?

    Am I the only one who wonders what it would be like to be married to Sullivan?

  13. jimmy says

    March 31, 2009 at 10:01 pm - March 31, 2009

    still talking about andrew sullivan over here, eh?
    hey, how are the gays in iraq doing? when you covering that with exasperation?

  14. V the K says

    March 31, 2009 at 10:24 pm - March 31, 2009

    The short bus has pulled up to the stop and disgorged another little letter person.

  15. American Elephant says

    April 1, 2009 at 2:49 am - April 1, 2009

    #12 Dan talks about the welfare of gays in Iraq and the rest of the middle east quite regularly — certainly more than anyone else I’ve seen, and easily more than any liberal gay blogs. No small feat considering hes on the other side of the world and reporting on the issue is sparse at best.

  16. Classical Liberal Dave says

    April 1, 2009 at 6:48 am - April 1, 2009

    Poor Andrew Sullivan.

    He became such an enthusiastic supporter of G.W. Bush, and then Bush went and endorsed a heterosexual marriage only amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

    The poor man has been deranged ever since. It’s a very sad story, and I mean that in all sincerity.

  17. Classical Liberal Dave says

    April 1, 2009 at 7:14 am - April 1, 2009

    I just read what Jesse Taylor wrote about Ann Althouse at Pandagon. He insults Althouse and then proceeds to libel her!

    What a miserable son of a bitch!

    Those creeps at Pandagon need to be locked up — in padded cells.

  18. Peter Hughes says

    April 2, 2009 at 11:39 am - April 2, 2009

    Andrew, wearing a white dress to Althouse’s wedding? That’s rich! 😉

    To quote Granny Klump in “The Nutty Professor” as portrayed by Eddie Murphy: “You can wear white?”

    Sounds to me like “the immaculate deception” – pretending to be a virgin when everyone knows that you aren’t.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

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