Comments on: Looking for Prejudice in all the Wrong Places

By: GayPatriot » Intolerance of Anti-Gay Bigot at Jerry Falwell’s UniversityA Sign of How Far We’ve Come

Fri, 24 Apr 2009 07:07:10 +0000

[...] students at Liberty University, like patrons at a New Jersey sports bar, they have no truck for loud-mouthed anti-gay attitudes.Â Not all young people may support gay [...]

By: 23eagle

23eagle — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 00:24:08 +0000

I would love to see a segment where a straight couple wearing Sarah Palin T-shirts and carrying a Bible walk into a hipster joint and discuss politics among themselves.

Garsh! I wonder what would happen?

Think there might be some violence or sumpin?

By: American Elephant

American Elephant — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 23:38:54 +0000

Come with me to a women-only dance, in Massachusetts, and watch the reaction when I tell them Iâ€™m a conservative.

Just tell them how sorry you are that they feel so weak and victimized that they need a daddy government to take care of them.

By: Darkeyedresolve

Darkeyedresolve — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 14:06:04 +0000

#24

We thought we had one at the begining of the season…and then they just kinda disappeared. I hear we are getting another one this season but who really knows.

I am Brown’s guy anyway

By: just me

just me — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 10:24:04 +0000

I think that if the producers had directed the gay couple to keep turning up the heat, sooner or later they would have had the mess they were trolling for.

Although at some point you cross the line into inappropriate PDA for any couple-straight or gay. People are going to react to the behavior not necessarily whether it os two men, two women or a man and a woman.

I think what rubs me wrong with this one is that the assumption was made that the gay couple would be bashed in some way-verbally at least. they didn’t get what they expected, and rather than saying “oops we were wrong, let’s call it a day” they kept ramping up the situation to provoke what they were expecting to see and they still never got it.

By: Michigan-Matt

Michigan-Matt — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 01:51:33 +0000

darkeyedresolve offers: “I think the only time you would actually get into a fight is if you were rooting for the wrong teamâ€¦ie The Browns in Cincinnatiâ€¦”

Ummmm, when did Cincinnati get any professional sports team?

By: Giblet

Giblet — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:35:12 +0000

Gaaah, I hate staged journalism and this is a horrible example of it.

Though in my mind, the true bigotry of this piece was this weird automatic assumption that people who hang out in sports bars are uniformly

1. hetero
2. conservative

I’ve been to many a sports bar and the politics of the bar patrons reflect the politics of the area. Thus the Portland,OR sports bar scene trended liberal while the bar patrons in Wilsonville,OR were typical of the right-leaning nature of their area. And I’ve been in big and small groups of gay guys in both. I gotta go with Darkeyedresolve. You are much more likely to get serious flack for rooting for the “wrong” team if the bar has a sports allegiance. (Being light in pro sports team here in OR, you see partisans like Packer Backers and Raider Nation coming together and claiming a hangout).

By: Hunter

Hunter — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:30:47 +0000

The only time I was discriminated against for being gay was when I was fired by a guy who was the Democrat party chairman for his county, and a Hillary supported to the tune that he paid his two kids each $50,000 a plus room and board for them to work on Hillary’s campaign. He’s a super-Dem. After that I move west and now work with a bunch of super-conservatives and they just don’t care about my orientation at all. Who’d a thunk that?

By: CR

CR — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:01:45 +0000

#19: No worries, I found it. It’s interesting and some of the stories do have merit (e.g., the ABC and NBC claims of Israeli soldiers murdering Palestineans), but the riff on Letterman and O’Reilly seemed misplaced. Letterman’s a comedian, not the “media” (at least the way I define it) and, more to the point, I think they both understood it was all in good fun. Letterman’s “anger” was so over the top it was obviously forced, and when O’Reilly mocked it a minute later Letterman laughed. I don’t disagree that bias exists, including among purportedly neutral journalists, such as Matthews, but sometimes I hear the complaint tossed around with a bit too much ease. (Again, not with respect to this story, but just speaking more generally.)

By: Ashpenaz

Ashpenaz — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:59:34 +0000

Actually, if you want a fight, be an old woman supporting Rick Warren–then you’ll have gay leftists beat you up. Or be a Mormon so you can have rocks thrown at your church. Here’s the set-up ABC should have used–put me in a gay bar and have me say “I think marriage is designed by God for heterosexuals and I think homosexuals should develop same-sex covenants which are lifelong and sexually exclusive.” See if that causes a fight.

By: CR

CR — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:49:35 +0000

#15 …I think the only time you would actually get into a fight is if you were rooting for the wrong teamâ€¦ie The Browns in Cincinnatiâ€¦

Or, as someone raised on the “good” side of the state, the Bengals in Cleveland! (Actually… pretty much ANY time other than the Browns in Cleveland, or anything other than the Sox in Boston…)

By: Peter Hughes

Peter Hughes — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:19:15 +0000

#18 – I hear ya, Julie. And if they don’t want to get to know you better, well, it’s their loss.

Regards,
Peter H.

By: Peter Hughes

Peter Hughes — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:18:06 +0000

#17 – Sorry, CR. I was doing the link from memory. You are correct – it is an “org” site.

Regards,
Peter H.

By: Julie the Jarhead

Julie the Jarhead — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 19:25:07 +0000

You want bigotry?

Come with me to a women-only dance, in Massachusetts, and watch the reaction when I tell them I’m a conservative.

By: CR

CR — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 18:49:33 +0000

Peter, thanks for the link. Even though I’m sure I won’t agree with a lot of what I read, I appreciate the spirit in which you’re offering the link and I’ll definitely look over the more recent stuff. (The only thing that was confusing so far was the .com suffix… should be http://www.newsbusters.org as .com led me to an under construction page.)

By: Ashpenaz

Ashpenaz — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 18:04:38 +0000

OK–here’s the real challenge. I don’t think Matthew Shepard was gay-bashed. I’m from this area, and it just doesn’t happen that often. I think Matthew Shepard was beaten up for his money. I don’t think his orientation played any role in his tragic death. This staged event by ABC proves my point–people don’t care about that. But people do get beaten up and killed and robbed, regardless of orientation.

P.S. I also think the “gay victim” theme of Brokeback Mountain was false. I lived down the street from an openly gay couple in a small town during the 60s and 70s. Nobody cared then, either. Jack and Ennis could have “ranched up” and everyone would have simply accepted it. Really. Look up cowboy couples in the Old West–that tradition has always been part of the West.

By: Darkeyedresolve

Darkeyedresolve — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:33:06 +0000

Man I’ve wanted to go to a sports bar all season long, I need more friends who like sports. I think sports bar are pretty fun, especially when you have hometown games being played.

I think the only time you would actually get into a fight is if you were rooting for the wrong team…ie The Browns in Cincinnati…

By: V the K

V the K — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:05:54 +0000

CR, please feel free to check out http://www.newsbusters.com so you can see documented evidence of the bias in the liberal media..

Don’t confuse the liberal leftist with facts, Peter. His mind is made up.

By: V the K

V the K — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:04:37 +0000

I think these staged incidents are super-gay. They should be treated as reality TV stunts, not real news. But if they’re going to do them anyway, why not send some actors playing Christchuns into a Gay Pride parade carrying bibles and wearing T-Shirts with pro-Christ messages on them? Or, actors wearing pro-life T-Shirts into a convention of left-wing Democrat feminists? Why not send actors wearing military fatigues onto the campus of Berkeley or Evergreen State?

Mainly because it would never occur to the left-wing media to expose the real hatred on their side of the aisle.

By: V the K

V the K — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:03:24 +0000

I think these staged incidents are super-gay. They should be treated as reality TV stunts, not real news. But if they’re going to do them anyway, why not send some actors playing Christians into a Gay Pride parade wearing T-Shirts with Bible verses printed on them? Why not send people wearing pro-life T-Shirts into a convention of left-wing Democrat feminists? Why not send actors wearing military fatigues onto the campus of Berkeley or Evergreen State?

Mainly because it would never occur to the left-wing media to expose the real hatred on their side of the aisle.