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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/04/03/you-say-you-want-a-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-402115</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#9 - PG, people like Stalin had a term for Cindy Sheehan:  useful idiot.

Emphasis on the second word.

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#9 &#8211; PG, people like Stalin had a term for Cindy Sheehan:  useful idiot.</p>
<p>Emphasis on the second word.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: Patriot Goddess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patriot Goddess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The irony about Cindy Sheehan of course is now that she&#039;s protesting Maobama, the left has turned on her and is calling her a fringe nutcase.  They sure used and embraced her eagerly when it served their purposes.  I almost feel sorry for her now.  At least she&#039;s consistent, though that&#039;s about the most positive thing I can come up with.  She&#039;s getting virtually no press this time around- I wonder why... certainly not because of any bias, that doesn&#039;t exist, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The irony about Cindy Sheehan of course is now that she&#8217;s protesting Maobama, the left has turned on her and is calling her a fringe nutcase.  They sure used and embraced her eagerly when it served their purposes.  I almost feel sorry for her now.  At least she&#8217;s consistent, though that&#8217;s about the most positive thing I can come up with.  She&#8217;s getting virtually no press this time around- I wonder why&#8230; certainly not because of any bias, that doesn&#8217;t exist, right?</p>
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		<title>By: polly</title>
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		<dc:creator>polly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 16:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen, if you are correct and there ARE anti-war protests going on, and they are NOT being covered by the MSM, it only proves their unwavering support of the Bama, not to be interrupted by negativity like anti-war protests.  Such protests during the Bush years were given much coverage.

And I think you&#039;re confusing &quot;frustrated&quot; with &quot;angry.&quot;  I sensed no anger in the reportage &quot;You Say You Want a Revolution,&quot; only good-humored commentary and the stating of fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen, if you are correct and there ARE anti-war protests going on, and they are NOT being covered by the MSM, it only proves their unwavering support of the Bama, not to be interrupted by negativity like anti-war protests.  Such protests during the Bush years were given much coverage.</p>
<p>And I think you&#8217;re confusing &#8220;frustrated&#8221; with &#8220;angry.&#8221;  I sensed no anger in the reportage &#8220;You Say You Want a Revolution,&#8221; only good-humored commentary and the stating of fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonicfrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonicfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our Fresno Tea Party will be on the 18th. The Sonic-Mate has found this important enough that he has - Gasp - actually taken the day off and we&#039;re going to go protest...  Together. He won&#039;t take a day for our vacation, but he&#039;ll do it for this!   :-)     He dislikes crowds and he NEVER participates in these kind of things.  This may just be the ten year anniversary celebration we never had three years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our Fresno Tea Party will be on the 18th. The Sonic-Mate has found this important enough that he has &#8211; Gasp &#8211; actually taken the day off and we&#8217;re going to go protest&#8230;  Together. He won&#8217;t take a day for our vacation, but he&#8217;ll do it for this!   <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />      He dislikes crowds and he NEVER participates in these kind of things.  This may just be the ten year anniversary celebration we never had three years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 13:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since Stephen brings up Cindy Sheehan, lets compare and contrast how the media treated her compare with how they treated Rick Santelli. 

The media put glowing profiles of the Sheehag in glossy magazines, fawned over her on morning and daytime chat shows, followed her around and handed her a microphone at every opportunity while taking care not to cover her anti-semitic remarks or mentioning the $500,000 she and Code Pink raised to send to terrorists in Iraq. 

Rick Santelli has gotten maybe 5% of the coverage Sheehan did, and instead of the glowing profiles was called a nut by Matt Lauer. &quot;Ranting nut&quot; has been the tone of most of the media coverage he has garnered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since Stephen brings up Cindy Sheehan, lets compare and contrast how the media treated her compare with how they treated Rick Santelli. </p>
<p>The media put glowing profiles of the Sheehag in glossy magazines, fawned over her on morning and daytime chat shows, followed her around and handed her a microphone at every opportunity while taking care not to cover her anti-semitic remarks or mentioning the $500,000 she and Code Pink raised to send to terrorists in Iraq. </p>
<p>Rick Santelli has gotten maybe 5% of the coverage Sheehan did, and instead of the glowing profiles was called a nut by Matt Lauer. &#8220;Ranting nut&#8221; has been the tone of most of the media coverage he has garnered.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 13:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Neither gained a critical mass of media coverage because of the absence of a compelling story.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Stephen, are you honestly trying to claim that the MSM &lt;i&gt;ignored&lt;/i&gt; the anti-Bush Iraq War protests the same way they ignore the anti-spending, anti-socialist protests happening now?  Were you living in a cave on Mars with both fingers in your ears these past eight years. 

I understand your desire to defend the media. After all, they&#039;re your team. You have to keep pretending that they are somewhat objective and not, as they are, the public relations wing of the DNC. But the fact of the matter is, anti-Bush protests always received prominent and favorable play during the Bush Administration because it suited the purposes of the left. The anti-socialism protests are being ignored because the media, as Chris Matthews admitted, are invested in Obama and want him to succeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Neither gained a critical mass of media coverage because of the absence of a compelling story.</p></blockquote>
<p>Stephen, are you honestly trying to claim that the MSM <i>ignored</i> the anti-Bush Iraq War protests the same way they ignore the anti-spending, anti-socialist protests happening now?  Were you living in a cave on Mars with both fingers in your ears these past eight years. </p>
<p>I understand your desire to defend the media. After all, they&#8217;re your team. You have to keep pretending that they are somewhat objective and not, as they are, the public relations wing of the DNC. But the fact of the matter is, anti-Bush protests always received prominent and favorable play during the Bush Administration because it suited the purposes of the left. The anti-socialism protests are being ignored because the media, as Chris Matthews admitted, are invested in Obama and want him to succeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 08:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To more directly respond to Bruce&#039;s post, to address the concern of Classical Liberal Dave: Both anti-war protests during the Bush administration and anti-spending protests during the Obama administration failed to significantly reach beyond the respective bases of the opposition party. As a result, I would posit that neither gained a critical mass of media coverage because of the absence of a compelling story. Liberals will protest war; conservatives will protest spending. No news there.

While we do not know whether or how the anti-spending protests will grow to include unlikely constituencies, the anti-war protests only received significant media attention when they included &quot;man bites dog&quot; characters. At first, Cindy Sheehan was such an unlikely protester who was able to attract the attention of the press, as the mother of a soldier, but eventually she became too over-exposed for her own (or the cause&#039;s) good. Since Sheehan&#039;s peak, it&#039;s almost all been downhill in the media for the anti-war crowd. The anti-surge era was that movement&#039;s last hurrah.

Until the anti-spending protests gain their own unlikely characters, complaining about a lack of news coverage seems either premature or just plain whiny. As I said, conservatives are protesting spending just as liberals protested war. This is not news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To more directly respond to Bruce&#8217;s post, to address the concern of Classical Liberal Dave: Both anti-war protests during the Bush administration and anti-spending protests during the Obama administration failed to significantly reach beyond the respective bases of the opposition party. As a result, I would posit that neither gained a critical mass of media coverage because of the absence of a compelling story. Liberals will protest war; conservatives will protest spending. No news there.</p>
<p>While we do not know whether or how the anti-spending protests will grow to include unlikely constituencies, the anti-war protests only received significant media attention when they included &#8220;man bites dog&#8221; characters. At first, Cindy Sheehan was such an unlikely protester who was able to attract the attention of the press, as the mother of a soldier, but eventually she became too over-exposed for her own (or the cause&#8217;s) good. Since Sheehan&#8217;s peak, it&#8217;s almost all been downhill in the media for the anti-war crowd. The anti-surge era was that movement&#8217;s last hurrah.</p>
<p>Until the anti-spending protests gain their own unlikely characters, complaining about a lack of news coverage seems either premature or just plain whiny. As I said, conservatives are protesting spending just as liberals protested war. This is not news.</p>
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		<title>By: Classical Liberal Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Classical Liberal Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 08:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In fact, I would say that concern over out-of-control spending is getting as much, if not more news attention than war protests!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Here, Stephen, you are not responding to Bruce&#039;s post. 

He&#039;s comparing the mainstream news media&#039;s treatment of &lt;i&gt;war protesting during the Bush administration&lt;/i&gt; with its treatment of &lt;i&gt;tax-and-spend protesting during the Obama administration.&lt;/i&gt;

You&#039;ve screwed up Bruce&#039;s complaint. He was never talking about anti-war and anti-tax protests both directed at Obama. That comparison would reveal the MSM&#039;s attitude toward the two complaints.

&lt;b&gt;What Bruce is concerned about is the MSM&#039;s treatment of protests against Bush and the Republicans as compared to its treatment of protests against Obama and the Democrats.&lt;/b&gt;

Are you going to say he has no cause for complaint whatsoever?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In fact, I would say that concern over out-of-control spending is getting as much, if not more news attention than war protests!</p></blockquote>
<p>Here, Stephen, you are not responding to Bruce&#8217;s post. </p>
<p>He&#8217;s comparing the mainstream news media&#8217;s treatment of <i>war protesting during the Bush administration</i> with its treatment of <i>tax-and-spend protesting during the Obama administration.</i></p>
<p>You&#8217;ve screwed up Bruce&#8217;s complaint. He was never talking about anti-war and anti-tax protests both directed at Obama. That comparison would reveal the MSM&#8217;s attitude toward the two complaints.</p>
<p><b>What Bruce is concerned about is the MSM&#8217;s treatment of protests against Bush and the Republicans as compared to its treatment of protests against Obama and the Democrats.</b></p>
<p>Are you going to say he has no cause for complaint whatsoever?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 06:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce, I often read this blog because it is always nice to get a conservative gay perspective, especially when I disagree with it. Your viewpoint is not a contradiction, as all too many GLBT&#039;s (and straights) seem to think.

But all too often you play &quot;the lazy conservative&quot; - victim of the conspiratorial liberal MSM, angry at the world. This post is a great example. I have no doubt that the density of points on the map above could be seen on a map of war protests, albeit with a different geographic balance. Your complaint that such an anti-war map would get &quot;national news coverage every day bordering on hysteria&quot; is absurd - there are many, many war protests out there, and I would hardly describe news coverage of them as over-the-top. In fact, I would say that concern over out-of-control spending is getting as much, if not more news attention than war protests!

I enjoy reading smart takes from a gay conservative. There are few places on the web for the type of content you are capable of producing. Why are you using your megaphone for standard-issue whining? I can read that anywhere! Here&#039;s a hope for more engaging content from your unique and valuable perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce, I often read this blog because it is always nice to get a conservative gay perspective, especially when I disagree with it. Your viewpoint is not a contradiction, as all too many GLBT&#8217;s (and straights) seem to think.</p>
<p>But all too often you play &#8220;the lazy conservative&#8221; &#8211; victim of the conspiratorial liberal MSM, angry at the world. This post is a great example. I have no doubt that the density of points on the map above could be seen on a map of war protests, albeit with a different geographic balance. Your complaint that such an anti-war map would get &#8220;national news coverage every day bordering on hysteria&#8221; is absurd &#8211; there are many, many war protests out there, and I would hardly describe news coverage of them as over-the-top. In fact, I would say that concern over out-of-control spending is getting as much, if not more news attention than war protests!</p>
<p>I enjoy reading smart takes from a gay conservative. There are few places on the web for the type of content you are capable of producing. Why are you using your megaphone for standard-issue whining? I can read that anywhere! Here&#8217;s a hope for more engaging content from your unique and valuable perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 03:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of COURSE there&#039;s no mention of it in the DNC MSM, Bruce - it goes against their template!  Besides, nobody should dare show resistance in the face of The Snob.

Except, of course, we patriots.

One lump or two?  ;-)

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of COURSE there&#8217;s no mention of it in the DNC MSM, Bruce &#8211; it goes against their template!  Besides, nobody should dare show resistance in the face of The Snob.</p>
<p>Except, of course, we patriots.</p>
<p>One lump or two?  <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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