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Blaming Conservatives for Murder:
How the Left Scapegoats Conservative Media

Posted by GayPatriotWest at 1:55 pm - April 7, 2009.
Filed under: Blogging,Hysteria on the Left,Movies/Film & TV

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In one of my favorite flawed* movies, the 1991 flick The Fisher King, Jeff Bridges plays Jack Lucas, a radio talk show host whose offhand on-air remark to an unbalanced listener causes that listener to go on a shooting rampage in a swank Manhattan restaurant, killing the wife of Robin Williams‘s Perry, causing the latter’s breakdown.

There, there was a direct link between the talk show host’s words and the actions of a deranged killer.  In the flick, Lucas searches for redemption as he befriends Perry, helps him find love while confronting the demons which have kept him at an emotional distance from his own girlfriend, Anne Napolitano (Mercedes Ruehl in an Oscar-winning role).

It seems that all too many on the left are eager to brand conservative talk show hosts, bloggers and opinion leaders as guilty as was Bridges’s screen character.  They seem to take their cues more from this movie than from the actual words of outspoken conservatives.

Now, they’re trying to “blame recent high profile shootings on those who believe in the 2nd Amendment” as if opponents of gun control actually encourage lunatics concerned about losing their weapons to shoot at cops.  Left-wing bloggers are accusing their conservative counterparts, in the words of one such blogger, of “stoking the fires of an atmosphere of hate that leads to police officers getting killed.

Note how he uses that term, “atmosphere of hate.”  Its obscures the fact that he can’t find the direct statement of a Jack Lucas which spurred the killer to go on a rampage.

Such ambiguous language is nothing new for conservative-hating leftists in their eagerness to smear the right.

Just over ten years ago, Frank Rich rushed to blame social conservatives for the murder of Matthew Shepard.  Now, I agree that the one of the men Rich singled out, Gary Bauer, is a little loopy, but advocate of violence he is not.  Yet, that didn’t deter that angry columnist from blaming him for the killing:

The head of the Family Research Council is Gary Bauer, a G.O.P. power broker and putative Presidential candidate, who disingenuously goes on talk shows to say that his organization hates no one and deplores violence. But if you wage a well-financed media air war in which people with an innate difference in sexual orientation are ceaselessly branded as sinful and diseased and un-American seekers of ”special rights,” ground war will follow. It’s a story as old as history. Once any group is successfully scapegoated as a subhuman threat to ”normal” values by a propaganda machine, emboldened thugs take over.

Do they?  If so, we conservatives should be concerned about “emboldened thugs” assaulting us, given how so many leading leftists scapegoat us on a regular basis.

All that said, did Rich ever bother to investigate his hypothesis to show that the thugs who murdered Shepherd were familiar with Bauer’s arguments?  I would bet good money that they had no clue who he was and had little (if any) knowledge of the rhetoric and ideas of such social conservatives.

The connection existed only in Rich’s mind–and that of his social and political confrères.  No wonder leftists accuse conservative of creating an “atmosphere of hate.”  The term allows them to accuse us without finding a clear causal connection between our words and the murderous actions of deranged individuals.

The Jack Lucas they seek exists only in their imaginations and in a very good movie.

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*Like Woman of the Year, the tone of the conclusion doesn’t fit the rest of the film.

FROM THE COMMENTS:  V the K reminds us who the killers actually were: “The rats who murdered Shepard weren’t C-h-r-i-s-t-i-a-n Fundamentalists, they were drug-addled tweaker punks.”

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  1. Just over ten years ago, Frank Rich rushed to blame social conservatives for the murder of Matthew Shepard.

    The rats who murdered Shepard weren’t C-h-r-i-s-t-i-a-n Fundamentalists, they were drug-addled tweaker punks.

    If anything, his murder should have proved as a cautionary example against leaving a bar with strangers to have sex and use drugs. Instead, it’s used by the left as a cudgel against the group of people whose faith proscribes killing, promiscuous sex, and drug use.

    The left is downright perverse in the way it warps reality.

    Comment by V the K — April 7, 2009 @ 2:23 pm - April 7, 2009

  2. They call us child molestors. They accuse us of wanting to destroy marriage. They accuse of trying to destroy institutions that predate the country. They accuse of attempting to destroy the country. The preachers spread the lies, talk radio spreads the lies, the blogs and the forums spread the hate, and then the unbalanced ones go out and act on it. The proof is on the forums right now. Just go read Free Republic today, and you can see it in response to the gay marriage victories. Denying it doesn’t make it go away.

    Comment by torrentprime — April 7, 2009 @ 2:34 pm - April 7, 2009

  3. *laugh* yes torrent, paint with that broad brush. You just prove the point of the post.

    Comment by The Livewire — April 7, 2009 @ 2:40 pm - April 7, 2009

  4. #1 – “The left is downright perverse in the way it warps reality.”

    And V, it looks like tp in #2 just illustrated it. What a tool.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — April 7, 2009 @ 2:59 pm - April 7, 2009

  5. They call us child molestors. They accuse us of wanting to destroy marriage.

    Gee, I wonder why?

    But there’s a gay-sex liberal for you; support and endorse the people who are using their sexual orientation as an excuse for molesting children and demanding the destruction of marriage, but attack the people who are pointing that out. Why, it’s almost as if he puts a higher emphasis on supporting his fellow gay-sex liberals than he does on protecting children and valuing marriage.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — April 7, 2009 @ 3:02 pm - April 7, 2009

  6. Yeah, well, by painting the entire right as a big scary unreasonable boogeyman, torrentprime (a.k.a. talkingpoints) excuses himself from having to engage them intellectually or constructively. It allows him to remain lazy, cowardly, and wallowing in victimhood all the while claiming he has some sort of moral high ground over his opponents.

    Comment by V the K — April 7, 2009 @ 3:04 pm - April 7, 2009

  7. preachers spread the lies, talk radio spreads the lies, the blogs and the forums spread the hate, and then the unbalanced ones go out and act on it.

    Lies, indeed.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — April 7, 2009 @ 3:10 pm - April 7, 2009

  8. Yeah, well, by painting the entire right as a big scary unreasonable boogeyman, torrentprime (a.k.a. talkingpoints) excuses himself from having to engage them intellectually or constructively.

    It also keeps him from having to say that the behavior of his fellow gay-sex liberals is wrong.

    You have to wonder what goes on in the head of people like torrentprime; they’d rather let a child be molested than criticize the actions of another gay person. Would you want that kind of a person holding a public office?

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — April 7, 2009 @ 3:12 pm - April 7, 2009

  9. The preachers spread the lies, talk radio spreads the lies, the blogs and the forums spread the hate, and then the unbalanced ones go out and act on it.

    But, inexplicably, the rhetoric of the leftist gays like torrentprime is NEVER held responsible for the fact that gay people attack religious people, mail white powder to organizations, vandalize churches, try to shut down businesses, and demand that people be fired from their jobs.

    You’d think that if it’s hateful rhetoric hurting people that they’re worried about, they would say something. But since they never correct their fellow gay leftists or namecall them in the same fashion, it’s pretty obvious that they don’t care about people getting hurt as long as it’s people they don’t like.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — April 7, 2009 @ 3:20 pm - April 7, 2009

  10. Now, they’re trying to “blame recent high profile shootings on those who believe in the 2nd Amendment” as if opposition to gun control means they encourage lunatics concerned about losing their weapons to shoot at cops.

    Here you are playing the victim again. I myself am a strong supporter of the 2nd Amendment and oppose broad gun bans. However, the Anti-Defamation League came out with a report yesterday that showed Richard Poplawski, the shooter in Pittsburgh, subscribed to the existence of FEMA concentration camps — an idea most recently promoted by Glen Beck on his television show. Poplawski is said to have posted the footage of Beck discussing the “camps” on a neo-nazi website.

    Look, everyone has a right to espouse their own political views. Like Mr. Beck, I support our right to bear arms. But no one is entitled to their own facts. And when individuals in the media publicize false stories that create hysteria, they should be taken to task. It ferments violence and must stop.

    Guns are not the problem. But when you have media talking heads inciting violence and hysteria through lies and innuendo, then there is a problem.

    Comment by Erik — April 7, 2009 @ 3:21 pm - April 7, 2009

  11. Would you want that kind of a person holding a public office?

    Ask Sam Adams, Gerry Studds, and Gary Becker.

    Comment by V the K — April 7, 2009 @ 3:35 pm - April 7, 2009

  12. Actually, if Erik actually listened to Glenn Beck (which I do) instead of taking his talking points second-hand from Kos and PuffingHo, he would know that Glenn Beck has actually discouraged his listeners from getting worked about the FEMA camps.

    Comment by V the K — April 7, 2009 @ 3:38 pm - April 7, 2009

  13. You mean most recently debunking the FEMA camps.

    But by all means Erik prattle on. I forget, did you ever disavow the Bush-is-making-gay-concentration-camps mem?

    And guns aren’t the problem, after all, if everyone had conceal carry, it’s likely he’d have hit a wall of fire, or at least thought about it.

    Comment by The_Livewire — April 7, 2009 @ 3:38 pm - April 7, 2009

  14. What a surprise; the Obama Party is now putting out talking points in an attempt to discredit and censor one of their biggest and most effective critics, Glenn Beck, by blaming him for the Pittsburgh killings.

    When the faggot Erik and his fellow Obama shills start going after the reliable Obama Party voting blocs like Louis Farrakhan, rappers, inner-city black ministers, and others who regularly preach and encourage violence against white people and the police, then we might actually care. But for now, this is just another attempt by our desperate incompetent of a President to cover up his blundering and ignorance by eliminating his opponents.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — April 7, 2009 @ 3:40 pm - April 7, 2009

  15. And here’s a video of Glenn Beck praising the restraint of a responsible gun owner. Which, in Erik’s world, would be characterized as “Glenn Beck promoting mass murder.”

    Comment by V the K — April 7, 2009 @ 3:46 pm - April 7, 2009

  16. Erik, please provide evidence of Glenn Beck inciting violence (if such evidence exists).

    Thanks.

    Comment by GayPatriotWest — April 7, 2009 @ 4:02 pm - April 7, 2009

  17. If Erik were a drag queen, his name would be Miss Information.

    Comment by V the K — April 7, 2009 @ 5:38 pm - April 7, 2009

  18. But when you have media talking heads inciting violence and hysteria through lies and innuendo, then there is a problem.

    How about the POTUS, Congressional liberals, the political commisaars in the MSM, the SEIU etc.?

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — April 7, 2009 @ 5:56 pm - April 7, 2009

  19. #17 – “If Erik were a drag queen, his name would be Miss Information.”

    I vote for “Ireka Shite.”

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — April 7, 2009 @ 6:05 pm - April 7, 2009

  20. The offending clip from the “Fox & Friends” segment in which Glen Beck says of the FEMA camps — “We now for several days have done research on them… I can’t debunk them.” — has since been removed from YouTube. (Yeah, big surprise.)

    That was the segment referenced in the ADL report.

    Beck may have just been trying to get folks to watch his upcoming show on the “FEMA camps” when he said “I can’t debunk them.” But that is grossly negligent. Once the clip exists, it can be pointed to as “proof” of the “camps” existence from now into perpetuity, regardless of anything Beck might say later.

    Comment by Erik — April 7, 2009 @ 6:58 pm - April 7, 2009

  21. Again, Miss Information deprives his comment of context. I’ve heard Glenn Beck discuss the FEMA camps and at the time he was saying that he couldn’t debunk them it was because he had a team of researchers working to debunk them, but they had not finished researching it. But what he has never done is “promote” the existence of them, as Miss Information claims.

    Comment by V the K — April 7, 2009 @ 7:29 pm - April 7, 2009

  22. I thank gay patriot for trying to bring a more reasonable discussion re Conservative Evangelicals & The LAG community. I had been active in supporting groups like ACT-Up & being an AIDS buddy back in 1980′s. I have great affection for gay community.

    I also support Gary Bauer, because I think he is a very smart/accomplished man who happens to be a conservative at time in my life when I have identited myself as more conservative. Especially w/Jewish-Zionist issues. Gary has done more to help Jews than any man/woman/agency I know of! In terms of his posture to gays, yes it’s consistant w/Evangelical Christian tradition. However, he explains that as straight people, who don’t get special rights because of our sex preferences. He feels as I do that besides what the Bible teaches, sex is a very private matter that should not be brought up to govt & political spheres!

    He is opposed to Gay marriage because his religion teaches that gay sex is taboo. He does not advocate that Jews & Christians go killing or hurting gay people. As a matter of fact, he was one of few Conservative Republicans who offered to even speak w/The Log Cabin Club! Sadly, the time was not ripe, and here we are at a Mexican stand-off.

    I personally hope a time will come when Gays can once again embrace their privacy, and be accepted as humans. A time when they won’t have to get into the faces of modest people & scare the daylights out of them! We all know sex is a very fragile area for people of all orientations. Gary Bauer is sincerely Pro-Life and would never advocate that his Judeo-Christian followers start or attempt violence in their communities! Perhaps some of you need to think about your parents, and grandparents, and how they would react to a campy gay wedding that looked like a drag show! Or how they react to the perverts over at NAMBLA, who really give gays a rotten name! Most gay weddings are dignified but some are not. I like to think that not all gays indulge in sex orgies at a “bathhouse” but some of them do, indeed, indulge in lifestyles that most Christians would find decadent. Gary Bauer is not to blame for sad incidents of murder acted out by psychotic people. In terms of “atmosphere of hate”; we are all in that one, together. First step is to look in mirror and reclaim self dignity.

    Comment by frosty7530 — April 7, 2009 @ 8:24 pm - April 7, 2009

  23. And I’ve not watched tonight. But he said last night “And I can’t debunk them… As well as Popular Mechanics has. Here with us…”

    Then again, it’s not like we have the president threatening mob violence or anything. No comments about that Erik? Or are you waiting for your Soros approved mob instructions

    Comment by The_Livewire — April 7, 2009 @ 9:36 pm - April 7, 2009

  24. has since been removed from YouTube. (Yeah, big surprise.)

    That couldn’t possibly be because it’s copyrighted content and ALL networks pull video clips from YouTube eventually?

    Here ya go:

    http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=4228900&referralPlaylistId=7d5c39e633ccf8113bd2cce634b1447d3376587d

    Never let it be said that liberals aren’t gullible. They’re so easy to play for suckers.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — April 7, 2009 @ 10:27 pm - April 7, 2009

  25. It’s really very easy. Erik and his ilk are all in favor of Freedom of Speech and all the Rights preserved in the Bill of Rights, well, except for the speech of people who say things they don’t like and that awful 2nd Amendment that might help prevent Erik and his buddies from stifling the Free Speech of others.

    Comment by JorgXMcKie — April 7, 2009 @ 11:53 pm - April 7, 2009

  26. Yes, liberals never indulge in “hate speech” that results in deaths. Except for Lenin. And Mao. And Pol Pot. And Chavez. And Castro. And the Black Panthers. And Ayers. And…well, you get the idea.

    Comment by Flubber — April 7, 2009 @ 11:59 pm - April 7, 2009

  27. Here’s a hypothetical for anyone who is having trouble understanding what’s going on here.

    You’re in a bar, and you say “I should never have gotten married”. A lunatic hears this, and kills your wife.

    Kos would have you arrested and charged with murder for putting the idea in the lunatic’s head.

    If we are going to demand that everything said be filtered in order that it not set off a latent psychopath, we’re not going to have a whole lot to say.

    Comment by brian — April 8, 2009 @ 12:21 am - April 8, 2009

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  29. “stoking the fires of an atmosphere of hate that leads to police officers getting killed.“

    Who does this idiot think he’s kidding? If there’s any group with the expertise to concoct any sort of “atmosphere of hate”, it would be leftists.

    Comment by Blacque Jacques Shellacque — April 8, 2009 @ 2:22 am - April 8, 2009

  30. You guys (gays?) are a breath of fresh air. The homosexual community in this locale is of a single, unchangeable mind. If a black conservative is an “oreo” and a turncoat republican is a “RINO” how are conservative gays labeled by liberal (and radical) gays. also, is the proportion of conservative lesbians equivalent to that of gay patriots? just asking

    Comment by josil — April 8, 2009 @ 3:13 am - April 8, 2009

  31. Has it occurred to anybody that there’s always the angle that if the liberals weren’t always trying to take away our rights, this wouldn’t have happened?

    No, I’m not offering that excuse because the guy had deeper issues. Point is that the liberals blame Conservative talk radio while the more realistic angle would be this one.

    Then again, the left and reality are clearly divorced from each other.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — April 8, 2009 @ 4:15 am - April 8, 2009

  32. One man’s freedom is another’s purgatory. And another man’s hate is someone else’s desire. It is not unusual to hate what you desire.

    Comment by Eric — April 8, 2009 @ 5:00 am - April 8, 2009

  33. Yes, liberals never indulge in “hate speech” that results in deaths. Except for Lenin. And Mao. And Pol Pot. And Chavez. And Castro. And the Black Panthers. And Ayers. And…well, you get the idea.

    Well, it’s true that they murdered people and all… but Ann Coulter and Glenn Beck hurt people’s feelings!. I mean, mass murder the left can tolerate, but insensitivity… there is no worse crime.

    Comment by V the K — April 8, 2009 @ 6:11 am - April 8, 2009

  34. What I hate is the stoking of the fire of the atmospherics of choice that have aborted 50 million Americans since 1973.

    Comment by Broadsword — April 8, 2009 @ 7:30 am - April 8, 2009

  35. Then there’s the ‘legitimate grievances’ and ‘blowback’ excuses the Left always trundles out to give a pass to violence committed by politically-fashionable groups and individuals.

    I’m sure if I use the Justified Violence Decoder Ring I can find ‘chickens coming home to roost’ somewhere in there . . .

    And let’s not get into the reasons why the Unibomber is properly confined to a jail cell while Bombin’ Billy Ayers gets tenure.

    Two Americas, indeed.

    Comment by Vinny Vidivici — April 8, 2009 @ 7:46 am - April 8, 2009

  36. “When the faggot Erik and his fellow Obama shills start going after the reliable Obama Party voting blocs like Louis Farrakhan, rappers, inner-city black ministers, and others who regularly preach and encourage violence against white people and the police, then we might actually care.”

    Hey, when is this comment board just going to link directly to the Stormfront? You guys might as well condense with this sort of “conservative rhetoric”

    “I mean, mass murder the left can tolerate, but insensitivity… there is no worse crime.”

    What in god’s name are you talking about? How can you link the Democratic Party and Pol Pot? Seriously, what Dem is out there remotely connected to Pol Pot or Stalin?

    you sound ridiculous

    Comment by uguysrcrazy — April 8, 2009 @ 7:47 am - April 8, 2009

  37. Please note, lefty blogs and “journalists” began making these accusations as Obama and the left were taking flak for ginning up mob outrage towards private citizens. Suddenly, the left sees the same from the right via random maniac shootings.

    Coincidence? Hell no. David “Astroturf” Axelrod et al are still hard at work creating lots of hopenchange.

    Comment by Neal — April 8, 2009 @ 9:47 am - April 8, 2009

  38. It’s the standard nuanced liberal argument of “I know you are, what am I?!!??”

    Comment by Neal — April 8, 2009 @ 9:50 am - April 8, 2009

  39. Given how liberals worship criminals, the more violent and reprehensible, the more they love them, I always find such nonsense laughable (save Tookie! We have too many people in prison! Boo-hoo! Mumia is my idol!)

    Comment by rightwingprof — April 8, 2009 @ 10:01 am - April 8, 2009

  40. #30 – “If a black conservative is an “oreo” and a turncoat republican is a “RINO” how are conservative gays labeled by liberal (and radical) gays.”

    Well, in the eyes of some of the little-letter-people on this board, we are either “Jews for Hitler” or “self-loathing faggots.” Take your pick.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — April 8, 2009 @ 11:03 am - April 8, 2009

  41. Hey, when is this comment board just going to link directly to the Stormfront?

    Actually, if you’ve ever visited Stormfront, you would find the beliefs of self-admitted National S-o-c-i-a-l-i-s-t-s familiar and comforting.

    - Big business, especially banks run by J-o-o-s are responsible for the economic crisis.

    - George W. Bush was illegitimately elected and an idiot under the control of a sinister corporate cabal.

    - Iraq was a war of choice fought on behalf of Israel to benefit Dick Cheney’s wealthy friends.

    In short, the views of National S-o-c-i-a-l-i-s-t-s are pretty much the same as those of garden variety Democrat S-o-c-i-a-l-i-s-t-s.

    Comment by V the K — April 8, 2009 @ 11:28 am - April 8, 2009

  42. [...] are being assailed as the progenitors of hate, and even being blamed for recent shootings such as that in Pittsburgh. All of this nonsense, of course, but the smears will be cast about by lefty cohorts just the [...]

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  43. Hmm, the CBC just got back from Cuba, where they showed their support for Castro. In fact one Congresswoman praised Cuba as better than her own district.

    The State Department throwing Human rights to the wind.

    The Democrat controled congress in the 80′s moved to support the communists in central America.

    Two words. Alger Hiss.

    Need I go on?

    Comment by The Livewire — April 8, 2009 @ 1:02 pm - April 8, 2009

  44. “In short, the views of National S-o-c-i-a-l-i-s-t-s are pretty much the same as those of garden variety Democrat S-o-c-i-a-l-i-s-t-s.
    Comment by V the K — April 8, 2009 @ 11:28 am – April 8, 2009″

    Excellent and accurate comments, VtheK.

    I recently moved from southern Marin County, California after living there for almost 20 years. Marin is a wealthy liberal area just over the Golden Gate, north of San Francisco.

    The libs there are full on Jew haters. It’s dressed up in typical lib fashion as “anti-Zionism” and opposition to Israel but their statements and theories would fit right in with 1930′s Nuremberg. It excites them in part because they can feel “transgressive” and “down with the struggle” and edgy in spite of the immense comfort, security and wealth they live in. Jew-hating is as much a part of liberalism as nationalized health care.

    Comment by Neal — April 8, 2009 @ 5:12 pm - April 8, 2009

  45. 24 hours and no one wants to refute the liberals history with communists? I’m… amused.

    Comment by The Livewire — April 9, 2009 @ 12:27 pm - April 9, 2009

  46. So we’ve had 59 mass gun murders in the last week. Why? It appears that many of those were legally entitled to have guns. Maybe its just me, but perhaps there is a level of gunviolence that might cause people to think twice about the availablity and non-regulation and non-recordkeeping of gun ownership / access.

    From the NRA, the solution is to demand that private property owners be compelled to allow armed people onto their property without their consent. And to have airports and bars filled with people packing heat.

    Am I the only one who think that the NRA’s agenda is insanity?

    Comment by Tom in Lazybrook — April 9, 2009 @ 2:22 pm - April 9, 2009

  47. Um, Tom, what does your comment have to do with the point of the post.

    Just wonderin’.

    Comment by GayPatriotWest — April 9, 2009 @ 2:42 pm - April 9, 2009

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