Obama Bashes the US ‘Round the World…
Buried in heavy wet snow at HQ this evening (and almost trapped at SOUTHCOM today), I took some time and caught up with our Dear Leader and his backpacking trips throughout the world as of late.
Fresh off his stop south of the border where he blamed the drug mafia’s overrunning of a clearly impotent and/or corrupt Mexican government inexplicably on US gun laws, he followed on to the Carribian to attend the Summit of the Americas.
As an aside, by the way, the photo of him greeting yet another America-hater, Hugo Chavez of Venezuela is an interesting juxtaposition, don’t you think, with that of our then-First Lady cum Senate candidate and now Secretary of State with her gal-pal?
And let’s not forget the words of Chavez from less than two years ago:
The United States empire is on its way down and it will be finished in the near future, inshallah.
No doubt we’ll hear the president soon saying that “these words do not reflect the Hugo Chavez I know.”
But anyway…
Reading Obama’s words in Mexico, I got to thinking: Those who spend time on social networking sites are familiar with the “Countries I’ve Visited”-type applications that allow jet-setters (and humble military deployers) to show off all the fantastic places they’ve been. I decided to start one for the Big O. Below is a map of the world showing all the places President Obama has visited and trashed the United States. While he didn’t explicitly trash the USA in Saudi Arabia, the way he, as the leader of our Nation, subjugated himself in public to the throne of that kingdom, I’m going to count it. I’ll be back tomorrow if I need to add Trinidad and Tobago (which, unfortunately desipte its name only counts as one).
Please feel free to correct me if I’ve missed any.
-Nick (ColoradoPatriot) from HQ
UPDATE!
A very helpful commenter reminds me of The One’s trip in February to Canada where he indeed did badmouth us. I’ve also had a couple requests to improve the quality of the map. Given that the Dear Leader is currently in Trinidad and Tobago, I know I’ll have to update it pretty soon anyway, so I’ll hold off for now on those improvements and just post a brand new one once he insults us all at the Summit. As for the concern about Germany, I don’t think I’ll count that as he was merely a Senator (do you remember when he was just a Senator?). It would be impossible to include his trips before being inagurated president since his destinations and words weren’t always in the public record back then.
Fear not, though. I’m sure he’ll be back to visit his constituency our friends in Europe soon enough. And when he does, he’ll be packing his disdain for us with him.
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What a freakin great idea! But hasn’t Obama badmouthed the US everywhere he has gone? I know he’s been to Canada and find it hard to believe he didnt blame us for something while he was there.
But you are forgetting his speech in Germany at the Siegessäule — or Victory Column, where he dared apologize for America to the nation that brought us two world wars and the holocaust.
And there is Trinidad where he is currently bad mouthing the US
…but of course that is being broadcast to all of north, central and south Americas
And I know he has briefly visited Canada. I find it very hard to believe he didn’t smear America while he was there.
What an enormously narcissistic prick…apologizing for others to elevate himself. God, I hope whoever the next president is goes around the world apologizing for Obama. There is already so much to apologize for.
But you should consider enlarging your map a little, and putting an attractive title and key on it… I bet tons of other blogs would pick it up if you did.
Comment by American Elephant — April 18, 2009 @ 6:34 am - April 18, 2009
Can we impeach him for TREASON!!!!!
Comment by PatriotMom — April 18, 2009 @ 7:15 am - April 18, 2009
Obama is insecure he behaves like a beta male, really the only alpha in the last Presidential race was (Governor) Sarah Palin. Coincidentally the only candidate in the race that had run a Government. This is what an American Idol President will get you- glad handing despots. Don’t blame me I voted for Sarah Palin
and I am an Independent.
Comment by keyboard jockey — April 18, 2009 @ 8:39 am - April 18, 2009
The look on Chavez’ face says it all. “Yeah! Finally the Americans have a Dear Teleprompter who will let me roll him! Especially if I smile and do a ‘bro’ handshake with him, making him think he’s my big ‘progressive’ buddy!”
Comment by ILoveCapitalism — April 18, 2009 @ 10:32 am - April 18, 2009
And the look on Obama’s” “Yeah! We’re bros!”
Comment by ILoveCapitalism — April 18, 2009 @ 10:33 am - April 18, 2009
If it’s so horrible to bow to the king of Saudia Arabia for a split second, isn’t it immeasurably worse to do the sword dance with him? Or to kiss him on the cheek? Or to walk around holding hands with him?
Someone has to explain to me the difference here.
Comment by Levi — April 18, 2009 @ 11:05 am - April 18, 2009
I think this was a bit hyperbolic and silly, and I think the Mexican drug war and how it relates to the US is more complicated than you’re giving it credit for. (We are one of the world’s largest arms exporters and, absent a demand for the drugs, there would be no supply or trafficking.) I also think the administration is taking the right approach with Cuba. Nonetheless, the pic of Obama glad-handing with Chavez infuriated me. Not that Obama should have been absurdly rude, but he didn’t have to go in all smiles and practically hugging the fool.
Comment by CR — April 18, 2009 @ 11:09 am - April 18, 2009
Fresh off his stop south of the border where he blamed the drug mafia’s overrunning of a clearly impotent and/or corrupt Mexican government inexplicably on US gun laws, he followed on to the Carribian to attend the Summit of the Americas.
You need to learn how to read. He doesn’t blame the situation in Mexico on American gun laws, he’s suggesting a change in gun laws as a means of helping to address the problem. It is our problem as well as theirs, and we’re going to have to do something about it. Trying to pretend like it’s an issue of Obama trying to take people’s guns away is so transparently bogus that it’s hardly even worth addressing. Now you just go ahead and keep distracting yourselves, like Karl Rove would want.
Or maybe you’ll respond to this a little bit better? You’ve got Obama Derangement Syndrome! You’ve got Obama Derangement Syndrome!
Comment by Levi — April 18, 2009 @ 11:14 am - April 18, 2009
I think this was a bit hyperbolic and silly, and I think the Mexican drug war and how it relates to the US is more complicated than you’re giving it credit for. (We are one of the world’s largest arms exporters and, absent a demand for the drugs, there would be no supply or trafficking.)
I had a similar comment get caught in the filter, but you said it better.
I also think the administration is taking the right approach with Cuba. Nonetheless, the pic of Obama glad-handing with Chavez infuriated me. Not that Obama should have been absurdly rude, but he didn’t have to go in all smiles and practically hugging the fool.
Why would you be infuriated by that? What has Chavez ever done to us, to anyone?
Comment by Levi — April 18, 2009 @ 11:18 am - April 18, 2009
#8: “What has Chavez ever done to us, to anyone?”
Levi, please tell me you have that embroidered on a pillow.
Comment by Sean A — April 18, 2009 @ 11:31 am - April 18, 2009
Levi doesn’t understand the difference between a bow (the greeting of a subject to a lord, or of a supplicant to a king, or of a slave to a master) and a kiss (the greeting of a friend or a brother to an equal).
Dancing he’s hopelessly lost on.
I pity whoever he tries to date.
Comment by DaveP. — April 18, 2009 @ 11:54 am - April 18, 2009
Levi is also ignorant of current affairs: that Chavez has called for war against America, has allied itself with longstanding enemies like Iran, has nationalized (read: stolen) American business interests in Venezuela, and is in the middle of the largest armaments purchasing program in South America.
Can’t dance, can’t read…
Comment by DaveP. — April 18, 2009 @ 11:56 am - April 18, 2009
Didn’t people know that Obama hated America when he was running for President? Gee, I did. I assumed that he won that big victory because most Americans wanted him to go and apologize to the world for the Bush years.
Note to Jeanane Garafolo–voting for a guy because he’s black is just as racist as protesting a guy because he’s black. Stereotyping an Alaskan woman governor is just as bad as stereotyping a tea-party attendee. Just so you know.
Comment by Ashpenaz — April 18, 2009 @ 12:06 pm - April 18, 2009
Yeah, Levi, I tend to agree with you more often than not, but Chavez… he’s a banana republic punk. He’s confiscated businesses belonging to U.S. entities, he’s called for war against us, he’s called our president the devil, and so on. I might think the world does deserve apologies for some of what the Bush administration did, but Chavez is in a league of demagoguery all his own and we should avoid legitimizing his power grab.
Comment by CR — April 18, 2009 @ 12:15 pm - April 18, 2009
Levi doesn’t understand the difference between a bow (the greeting of a subject to a lord, or of a supplicant to a king, or of a slave to a master) and a kiss (the greeting of a friend or a brother to an equal).
Dancing he’s hopelessly lost on.
I pity whoever he tries to date.
Oh okay. So when Obama bowed, he was clearly signaling that the king of Saudi Arabia owned him for all eternity?
You know, bowing and kissing are fairly simple acts that have a number of meanings around the world. For some people, bowing is a simple greeting akin to saying hello. Did you know this? Have you only ever seen anyone bowing when they were cowering in front of their lord and master? Additionally, kissing is sometimes done to let an acquaintance know that you’re ready to begin an intimate sexual relationship.
Therefore, if we’re picking and choosing the meanings of customs that have been in use for thousands of years all over the earth, and pretending that all the other meanings that don’t make a political point against the President are invalid, I hereby choose to believe that George Bush was trying to get to second base when he kissed the king.
Comment by Levi — April 18, 2009 @ 12:33 pm - April 18, 2009
Well, levi:
As part of my work for my Masters Degree in Military Arts and Sciences, I have studied the culture of various places around the world, including the Muslim nations and specifically Saudi Arabia. Since we’re talking about that cutlure in fact, you’ll be interested to know that a bow indeed is a sign of servility there, and a kiss is simply a sign of greeting among friends, akin to a handshake here in the US.
Now, you can choose, as is often your wont in your comments, to ignore what truly is. But just because you want to believe something else doesn’t make it accurate.
Comment by ColoradoPatriot — April 18, 2009 @ 12:46 pm - April 18, 2009
That photo is on the front page af many Latin American newspapers. Except for Colombia the rest have a socilalist to extreme left government. If you think that picture of Obama and Chavez is something, you should see what happened this morning. When Chavez entered the room, Obama jumped out of his see ran to Chavez to give him a real glad hand. How sickening!! I wouldn´t be surprised to if Hugo is invited to the White House and is permitted to sleep in the Lincoln bedroom.
Now Hillary is mouthing the line. She is in the Dominican Republic and has asked leftist president; Leonel Fernandez to be an intermediary between the U.S and Cuba to normalize relations. She stated publicly that the U.S policy towards Cuba has been a failure. I wonder how many Cuban exiles in Miami feel about her comments. They must feel betrayed. For me, the real kicker was her visit to Rosa Duarte School where she announced the U.S would give the Domiccan Republic $12,500,000. to expand the Effective School Program. Obama has thrown us deeply in debt and and were giving money away like it is water. Yet, because I live in El Salvador I will not receive the stimulus check that other social security recipients are receiving. I could use the money to stimulate the economy next month when I make a reservation to L.A. on either American or Continental or pay my motel or shop at Macy or Citicorp Plaza.
Levi, what has Chavez done . . .? To us, not much. He was a co-conspiritor with OPEC that forced up the price of to over $140. a barrel and we paid over $4.00 a gallon for gas. Living in Latin America, I read in August of 2007 when Latin American press that oil should be at least $100. a barrel.
To his own he did not spread the wealth. The inflation rate is 29%. Many basic items are unavailable in the markets. Poverty has risen by 50% and violent crime is the number one concern of venezuelans. Last November opposition candidates were elect mayors of Caracas, and two other major cities, (I believe Maricaibo and Barquismeto). The mayor of Caracas has yet to enter city hall because Chavez´s police block his entrance. So he has yet to function. Mayor Morales is in hiding because has trumped up charges to have him arrested. The the third enters his affice after midnight to sign documents and leaves before the crack of dawn. Where has all his petro dollars gone? $840,000. was destined for Cristina Fernandez de Kirschner (socialist) to buy her election as President of Argentina. Over a million to Daniel Ortega in Nicaragua to build a refinery Chavez is going to send him crude oil. I am almost sure that he financed the election of the communist, Mauricio Funes, here in El Salvador.
Comment by Roberto — April 18, 2009 @ 12:47 pm - April 18, 2009
#14: “Additionally, kissing is sometimes done to let an acquaintance know that you’re ready to begin an intimate sexual relationship.”
Or, so you’ve heard.
Comment by Sean A — April 18, 2009 @ 12:53 pm - April 18, 2009
Yeah, Levi, I tend to agree with you more often than not, but Chavez… he’s a banana republic punk. He’s confiscated businesses belonging to U.S. entities, he’s called for war against us, he’s called our president the devil, and so on. I might think the world does deserve apologies for some of what the Bush administration did, but Chavez is in a league of demagoguery all his own and we should avoid legitimizing his power grab.
Meh. The United States and the developed world have done our fair share of exploitation and subjugation of the guy’s continent, and most of that was before we put a moron in the White House. I’m not surprised that he’s a little defensive in the wake of his pointless misadventure in Iraq. If you were the leader of an oil-rich nation in the third world, I think you’d be a little defensive after seeing a disaster like that unfold, too.
Everybody should get a chance to reset relations after the diplomatic nightmare that was the Bush administration. That was some crazy sh*t we all just went through, and I mean all of us, the global community. There’s no point in letting Bush’s failures slime our relationships with the rest of the world forever. If people are willing to give us a clean slate, we should return the favor.
Comment by Levi — April 18, 2009 @ 12:59 pm - April 18, 2009
Ashpenaz
You are right about Jeanane Garafolo. I thought her comments were ignorant and disgusting. I am appalled by the convoluted values of the radical left. Anything good, such as the right to life which has some moral value and to not want a bloated and profligate government; to them it is evil, mean spirited and unpatriotic. While to bash a president for his efforts to keep the nation safe, despite some miscalculation and errors of judgment, is patriotic. To defend that president´s mission, in their eyes, makes us extremists.
Comment by Roberto — April 18, 2009 @ 1:01 pm - April 18, 2009
#18: “That was some crazy sh*t we all just went through, and I mean all of us, the global community. There’s no point in letting Bush’s failures slime our relationships with the rest of the world forever. If people are willing to give us a clean slate, we should return the favor.”
More shocking ignorance and despicable moral relativism. Levi, your “global community” sounds lovely–please go live there.
Comment by Sean A — April 18, 2009 @ 1:17 pm - April 18, 2009
Well, levi:
As part of my work for my Masters Degree in Military Arts and Sciences, I have studied the culture of various places around the world, including the Muslim nations and specifically Saudi Arabia. Since we’re talking about that cutlure in fact, you’ll be interested to know that a bow indeed is a sign of servility there, and a kiss is simply a sign of greeting among friends, akin to a handshake here in the US.
Now, you can choose, as is often your wont in your comments, to ignore what truly is. But just because you want to believe something else doesn’t make it accurate.
Jesus, this is getting more and more ridiculous. Now your Master’s Degree in Military Arts and Sciences is in play on the earth-shatteringly serious question of whether or not the American President believes himself to be a subservient follower of the King of Saudi Arabia. Ooooo.
Are you telling me that no matter who you are or where you’re from, you could be a local, or English, or Japanese, or you could be the American President, a bow can only mean that you’re servile to the king because you’re in Saudi Arabia? Whatever meaning your culture might ascribe to an act or demonstration must be checked at the door, like the DH in inter-league baseball? Everybody, everywhere, regardless of anything, always has to play by the house rules, is that you’re saying?
If that’s the case, then Bush definitely wanted to bed the guy. I mean, the king can’t bring his own customs into our country. If he wants to greet some Americans on our turf, he can shake our hands, like you said. That’s how we greet. Right? We certainly don’t kiss or hold hands. The only thing that one can reasonably conclude, according to your home field advantage decree, is that George Bush was trying to get some from the king of Saudi Arabia.
Where am I going wrong here?
Comment by Levi — April 18, 2009 @ 1:20 pm - April 18, 2009
More shocking ignorance and despicable moral relativism. Levi, your “global community†sounds lovely–please go live there.
I’d love to hear what you think you could teach me about morality, Bush-stooge. Speaking of which, has anyone heard they just released a few memos describing the torture methods that Bush, the renowned moral champion, insisted we never used? Gee, it’s a good think Abu Graihb was just a couple of bad apples!
Comment by Levi — April 18, 2009 @ 1:24 pm - April 18, 2009
Meh. The United States and the developed world have done our fair share of exploitation and subjugation of the guy’s continent, and most of that was before we put a moron in the White House
At last Levi and I agree on something
President Obama’s a moron,
Comment by The_Livewire — April 18, 2009 @ 1:25 pm - April 18, 2009
Speaking of which, has anyone heard they just released a few memos describing the torture methods that Bush, the renowned moral champion, insisted we never used?
All of which the Obama Party and its leadership were fully briefed on, and to none of which they objected in said briefings.
Furthermore, Levi, your failure to condemn and demand impeachment and war-crimes trials for Obama and the Obama Party leaders like Pelosi just as you do for Bush demonstrates that your so-called “moral” concern is nothing more than a pathetic attempt to score political points using lies, as is typical for you and your party.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — April 18, 2009 @ 1:45 pm - April 18, 2009
#22: “I’d love to hear what you think you could teach me about morality”
You won’t. A person who can no longer distinguish between right and wrong is unteachable in matters of morality.
Comment by Sean A — April 18, 2009 @ 1:46 pm - April 18, 2009
Whatever meaning your culture might ascribe to an act or demonstration must be checked at the door, like the DH in inter-league baseball? Everybody, everywhere, regardless of anything, always has to play by the house rules, is that you’re saying?
And watch how the screaming liberal hypocrite, who whines and cries about how Americans are always arrogant and insensitive to the cultures and beliefs of others, is now complaining because Obama can’t be arrogant and insensitive to the cultures and beliefs of others without other people calling him on it.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — April 18, 2009 @ 1:48 pm - April 18, 2009
Oh, Levi has a sense of right and wrong, Sean.
It’s merely based on the belief that Barack Obama and the Obama Party are always right, and that anyone who dares criticize them is always wrong.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — April 18, 2009 @ 1:51 pm - April 18, 2009
And that really is what makes Levi and the Obama Party such a fascinating study of a messianic cult. Like the Peoples’ Temple, which also, like Obama, has its roots in black racism, “progressive” politics, and the belief that America is always wrong, the cultists eventually buy completely into the notion pushed by a charismatic leader that he is “The One”, the “Lightworker”, the person who is going to lead them to the “promised land”, and that anyone who criticizes them is evil and out to destroy them.
This is what makes Jackie Speier’s worship of Obama particularly ironic.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — April 18, 2009 @ 1:53 pm - April 18, 2009
Oh, yeah! You mean THAT right and wrong. I forgot all about that one. Thanks, NDT!
Seriously, though, you are so right. Bush blows an involuntary air kiss in the general vicinity of some monarch and it’s just foreplay for licking the guy’s balls and registering with him at Crate & Barrel. Obama curtsies to yet another random, psychotic despot, and Levi types feverish, compound paragraphs promoting the act as some fascinating, unknowable gesture of uber-diplomacy, perhaps carrying with it layers of nuance, exchanged intimacies and multicultural respect that we could never possibly understand.
Comment by Sean A — April 18, 2009 @ 2:01 pm - April 18, 2009
Seriously, though, you are so right. Bush blows an involuntary air kiss in the general vicinity of some monarch and it’s just foreplay for licking the guy’s balls and registering with him at Crate & Barrel. Obama curtsies to yet another random, psychotic despot, and Levi types feverish, compound paragraphs promoting the act as some fascinating, unknowable gesture of uber-diplomacy, perhaps carrying with it layers of nuance, exchanged intimacies and multicultural respect that we could never possibly understand.
If you can’t tell, I’m being extremely sarcastic. It’s kind of necessary, the original thesis being as absurd as it is. You need to read something other than conservatives, you’ve got too much bullsh*t clogging up your bullsh*t detector.
One more thing. You know that the ‘monarch’ and the ‘random, psychotic despot’ you just referred to are the same person, don’t you? Funny, that. Why isn’t Bush kissing the random, psychotic despot, and why isn’t Obama bowing to the monarch? I wonder why you put it that way?
Comment by Levi — April 18, 2009 @ 2:13 pm - April 18, 2009
One of these days, Sean, Levi will stop hating his own skin color and start doing what MLK truly intended, which is to look at Obama and judge him for who he is, not the fact that he’s black.
And the problem is, deep down inside, Levi knows that Obama doesn’t look nearly as pretty or defensible in that light.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — April 18, 2009 @ 2:14 pm - April 18, 2009
And watch how the screaming liberal hypocrite, who whines and cries about how Americans are always arrogant and insensitive to the cultures and beliefs of others, is now complaining because Obama can’t be arrogant and insensitive to the cultures and beliefs of others without other people calling him on it.
I’m whining? You guys are flipping out over a freaking bow, and I’m the whiner?
Comment by Levi — April 18, 2009 @ 2:17 pm - April 18, 2009
One of these days, Sean, Levi will stop hating his own skin color and start doing what MLK truly intended, which is to look at Obama and judge him for who he is, not the fact that he’s black.
And the problem is, deep down inside, Levi knows that Obama doesn’t look nearly as pretty or defensible in that light.
I like how you think you know everything about me.
Comment by Levi — April 18, 2009 @ 2:21 pm - April 18, 2009
I like how you think you know everything about me.
Everything, no. Quite enough, yes.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — April 18, 2009 @ 2:53 pm - April 18, 2009
Frankly, Levi, there’s not that much interesting enough to know about you.
You’re bigoted, ignorant, and blindly obedient to a quasireligous thought system that is in no way grounded in reality; and are provincial enough to believe that the social signals of your own (limited) culture are somehow universal.
You also couldn’t argue your way out of a wet paper sack with a team of Sherpa guides and a chainsaw.
This in no way makes you any different from the bulk of your coreligonists on the left.
Congratualtions: you’re generic.
Comment by DaveP. — April 18, 2009 @ 3:34 pm - April 18, 2009
oh, it’s going to be a LONG, LONG decade for you haters. Keep on with those little teabag parties and whining about every little detail. This country will move forward with or without you.
Comment by buckeyenutlover — April 18, 2009 @ 3:52 pm - April 18, 2009
Frankly, Levi, there’s not that much interesting enough to know about you.
You’re bigoted, ignorant, and blindly obedient to a quasireligous thought system that is in no way grounded in reality; and are provincial enough to believe that the social signals of your own (limited) culture are somehow universal.
You also couldn’t argue your way out of a wet paper sack with a team of Sherpa guides and a chainsaw.
This in no way makes you any different from the bulk of your coreligonists on the left.
Congratualtions: you’re generic.
If I’m so easy to argue against, hop to it. I don’t see you taking a stab at it.
Comment by Levi — April 18, 2009 @ 3:57 pm - April 18, 2009
Obamateleprmpter going around apologizing for America is one of the reasons his approval ratings are declining. He has worse polls than Bush or Carter at the same time in their new Presidencys. And by the way in Canada he did apologize for America, for the USA starting the financial crisis and for NAFTA and global warming. Conservative and independent Americans don’t want some novice community organizer saying America is sorry for everything as we DEFEND them from everything from pirates to rogue states like N Korea, the Soviets and terrorits.
Comment by Gene on Pennsylvania — April 18, 2009 @ 4:04 pm - April 18, 2009
Keep on with those little teabag parties and whining about every little detail.
And keep on pretending that your party’s attempts to impose crushing taxes on productive individuals so you can pay for free healthcare, subsidized housing, welfare checks, no-show jobs, and illegal campaign contributions for people like Obama’s illegal-immigrant aunt, plus the fact that Obama and his fellow Obama Party endorsees like Geithner, Solis, Sebelius, Rangel, Stark, and Daschle don’t pay their taxes, as a “little detail”.
Obama is doomed. Pity his blackness won’t save him from his incompetence. In addition, as a nice side benefit, it will completely discredit all the racists like yourself and Levi, buckeye, who believe that minority members don’t have to follow the law and should get special privileges based on skin color.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — April 18, 2009 @ 4:09 pm - April 18, 2009
CR – the widely quoted “90 percent of guns at crimes scenes in Mexico” has been thoroughly debunked using figures from ATF and the Mexican government. Of course, that won’t stop Obama, Pelosi, Feinstein, and the rest from repeating the Big Lie over and over.
In actuality, 90 percent of guns that were submitted to ATF (a fraction of the total number) and that could be traced (a portion on the number submitted) originated in the US. Out of the total, about 20% of the guns come from the US.
That means that 80% come from elsewhere. For people who’ve never been to a gun store, you cannot by fully automatic weapons over the counter nor can you buy grenades, RPGs, anti-aircraft guns, Stinger missiles, &c. The problem isn’t guns, it’s a culture where that level of crime and violence is endemic.
Levi – If you were to read and comprehend conservative writings over the years, you will find a lot of fire directed at “our friends, the Saudis” for their wretched human rights record, funding of radical mosques and madrassas in the west among other things. Bush holding hands with whoever it was is almost as revolting as the millions Bill Clinton collects from the Saudies.
Re: Chavez, Castro, et al: I’ve often wondered what people who live in these countries must think when they see/hear pampered Americans praise their jailers.
Comment by SoCalRobert — April 18, 2009 @ 5:16 pm - April 18, 2009
Jumped the gun a little and missed Roberto’s comment earlier – a fair proxy for opinions held by many thinking people in Latin America.
For me, the real kicker was her visit to Rosa Duarte School where she announced the U.S would give the Dominican Republic $12,500,000. to expand the Effective School Program.
What, did HRC find a spare $12.5 million in Condi’s old desk? Maybe she should check the sofa cushions.
Effective Schools? The US gummint is expert in effective schools? That’s a surprising development.
Comment by SoCalRobert — April 18, 2009 @ 5:34 pm - April 18, 2009
Levi, I can and have beat the snot out of you debating wise, and I’m not good at it.
Hint, you lose at debating when you come out and say “I’m not going to reply to your facts, because pesky things like facts won’t change my opinion that BushCheneyHaliburton consipred to invade Iraq by making regime change the official position of the US… in 1998.”
Comment by The_Livewire — April 18, 2009 @ 5:43 pm - April 18, 2009
Levi – If you were to read and comprehend conservative writings over the years, you will find a lot of fire directed at “our friends, the Saudis†for their wretched human rights record, funding of radical mosques and madrassas in the west among other things. Bush holding hands with whoever it was is almost as revolting as the millions Bill Clinton collects from the Saudies.
Funny you mention that – the Bush family has been deeply connected to the Saudis for years. He even provided for his friends, which included a number of bin Laden’s family members, to be flown out of the country immediately after 9-11. What a nice guy!
I can’t even imagine the level of hysteria we’d be enduring if Obama had a relationship with anyone in the Middle East even remotely as close as Bush has with the Saudis. Just look at the nonsense that gets thrown around when he bows to the guy.
Comment by Levi — April 18, 2009 @ 5:45 pm - April 18, 2009
Re: Chavez, Castro, et al: I’ve often wondered what people who live in these countries must think when they see/hear pampered Americans praise their jailers.
Some food for thought – no one jails more than we do. It’s a growth industry!
Comment by Levi — April 18, 2009 @ 5:48 pm - April 18, 2009
Levi, I can and have beat the snot out of you debating wise, and I’m not good at it.
Hint, you lose at debating when you come out and say “I’m not going to reply to your facts, because pesky things like facts won’t change my opinion that BushCheneyHaliburton consipred to invade Iraq by making regime change the official position of the US… in 1998.â€
Okay….
Comment by Levi — April 18, 2009 @ 5:48 pm - April 18, 2009
With only 90 days in office, Obama has been bad mouthing his own country. His appointees are worse. Janet Napolitano dumbs down the war on terror yet calls returning vets possible right wing extremists and possible terrorists. His file is getting thick enough to call for President Obama´s impeachment.
Comment by Roberto — April 18, 2009 @ 5:53 pm - April 18, 2009
Levi,
We jail for for crimes against persons, whather they be violent or white collar. Castro and Chavez jail for dissent and call it crimes against the state. If we had jailed dissenters against the war in Iraq, maybe the MSM wouldn´t exist today and Barak Obama would not have been President.
Comment by Roberto — April 18, 2009 @ 6:02 pm - April 18, 2009
Levi,
We jail for for crimes against persons, whather they be violent or white collar. Castro and Chavez jail for dissent and call it crimes against the state. If we had jailed dissenters against the war in Iraq, maybe the MSM wouldn´t exist today and Barak Obama would not have been President.
And our jailing culture has its own problems, too. I hardly support jailing dissenters, but we’ve been holding our own little group of political prisoners for the past couple of years, too.
Comment by Levi — April 18, 2009 @ 8:51 pm - April 18, 2009
You mean “overcharged” relations, don’t you?
Don’t forget pompous, arrogant and a total dick.
Downward and forward are not the same.
By “he”, you mean Richard Clarke, right? You remember him? He was one of those heroes that liberals love for criticizing Bush, then they find out the truth and dump their heroes like a digested Taco Bell bean burrito. Richard Clarke tried to pawn this off on the FBI and then later stated that he alone approved it.
Comment by ThatGayConservative — April 18, 2009 @ 9:05 pm - April 18, 2009
Who’s “we”, douchebag?
Oh I forgot. You don’t answer questions where you might have to provide some of that “intellectual honesty” and “empiracle evidence” you spoke of. Never mind that it’s spelled empirical.
Comment by ThatGayConservative — April 18, 2009 @ 9:08 pm - April 18, 2009
No, Levi,
A kiss on the cheek is a standard European greeting, holding hands symbolizes friendship in the arab world, and swaying to the music while watching a host country perform song and dance for you is simply that.
Bowing, particularly to a head of state, symbolizes submission in every culture around the world.
As usual, you are ignorant of all of it.
Comment by American Elephant — April 18, 2009 @ 9:50 pm - April 18, 2009
I hardly support jailing dissenters, but we’ve been holding our own little group of political prisoners for the past couple of years, too.
That’s a pretty typical opinion for the Obama Party.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — April 18, 2009 @ 10:40 pm - April 18, 2009
Levi
Who are the political prisoners were holding? I hope you not regerring to GITMO. They are not political prisoners; they´re prisoners of war. The political prisoners are dissenting citizens as in Cuba and Venezuela.
Comment by Roberto — April 18, 2009 @ 10:53 pm - April 18, 2009
first word, line should read, referring.
Comment by Roberto — April 18, 2009 @ 10:55 pm - April 18, 2009
#42: “I can’t even imagine the level of hysteria we’d be enduring if Obama had a relationship with anyone in the Middle East even remotely as close as Bush has with the Saudis.”
That’s right, Levi. Any contact Bush has/had with the Saudi royals is nothing more than despicable “I’ll scratch your back” cronyism motivated solely by greedy self-interest at the expense of America. In contrast, when Obama offers the King a rim-job, we’re told it’s masterful diplomacy in action.
The fact is, Levi, we ARE entirely too cozy with Saudi Arabia because we have to be. We have to suck up to them because without their oil, our economy would be plunged into utter chaos. In a perfect world, we wouldn’t need the Saudis for anything and we would have the luxury of treating them (diplomatically) as the worthless, Sharia-governed theocrats that they are. But you and the rest of your ignorant comrades have done everything in your power to ensure that there hasn’t been a new oil refinery built in this country for the past 30 years and that it is illegal for us to drill at home and rely on our own natural resources. So, we are left with no choice but to kiss at least a minimum of neanderthal, arab ass.
NDT is right about you, Levi, and you’re fooling no one with your hypocritical double standards. You’ve implied some right-wing conspiracy between the Saudis and the Bush family based on US relations with an essential supplier of our country’s petroleum. But you simultaneously condemn Bush for exercising “cowboy diplomacy” when he stands up to Iran and (accurately) labels the country part of an “Axis of Evil.” Meanwhile, Obama sucks up to and appeases ALL OF THEM because, well, he’s as stupid as you are–thinking we need to beg these evil psychopaths for forgiveness and a “clean slate.” Your view of these issues is inconsistent, illogical, and backward–those genital-mutilating theocrats SHOULD BE bowing down before us and begging to be spared the same fate as Saddam. But the Left has tirelessly dedicated itself to preserving the Arab World’s remaining leverage over this country. In short, YOU SUCK.
Comment by Sean A — April 18, 2009 @ 11:08 pm - April 18, 2009
I’ll take Bush holding hands with the Saudis over Il Douche grabbing his ankles any day.
Some “leader” ya got there.
Comment by ThatGayConservative — April 18, 2009 @ 11:39 pm - April 18, 2009
No, Levi,
A kiss on the cheek is a standard European greeting, holding hands symbolizes friendship in the arab world, and swaying to the music while watching a host country perform song and dance for you is simply that.
Bowing, particularly to a head of state, symbolizes submission in every culture around the world.
As usual, you are ignorant of all of it.
Lordy, this is just getting more and more retarded. I hope you guys do remember to keep bringing this stuff up over the next couple of years and elections – should go nicely with the ‘OMG Obama’s not wearing a flagpin!’ line of attack that went over so well this last time.
Comment by Levi — April 19, 2009 @ 1:08 am - April 19, 2009
NDT is right about you, Levi, and you’re fooling no one with your hypocritical double standards. You’ve implied some right-wing conspiracy between the Saudis and the Bush family based on US relations with an essential supplier of our country’s petroleum.
There’s no conspiracy – the Bush and the Saudi royal family have been trading favors and investing in each other for decades. And before that, Grandpa Bush was extending credit to the Nazis. The GOP had would be at critical mass right now if Obama’s family had those sorts of connections, just look at how they reacted to finding out which school he attended when he was pre-pubescent.
By the way, did you figure out if the King Abdullah is a monarch or a random, psychotic despot? Does it depend on who the President is?
Comment by Levi — April 19, 2009 @ 1:15 am - April 19, 2009
The GOP had would be at critical mass right now if Obama’s family had those sorts of connections
Actually, given that Obama fully endorses and supports families whose fathers were blatantly Nazi-supporting and anti-Semitic like the Kennedys, I’m sure we can now expect you to flip-flop and demonstrate that there’s nothing wrong with supporting the Nazis or being against Jews — not that we didn’t know that already, given your Obama’s support of Hamas, Louis Farrakhan, and the other luminaries of which he wrote so highly in his Reverend Wright’s church.
And that’s what makes you really funny, Levi. You scream about lying politicians, then excuse Obama’s lies. You scream about “torture”, then support and endorse your Obama and Obama Party leaders knowing about it and supporting it. You whine about disparaging our military, then fully support and endorse Code Pink and its role in the Obama campaign. You throw tantrums over deficits, then insist that ones that are four times the size created by your Obama are good and wonderful.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — April 19, 2009 @ 3:28 am - April 19, 2009
NDT… What the f*ck?
Comment by Levi — April 19, 2009 @ 4:53 am - April 19, 2009
#57: “There’s no conspiracy – the Bush and the Saudi royal family have been trading favors and investing in each other for decades. And before that, Grandpa Bush was extending credit to the Nazis.”
I stand corrected, Levi. At first, the whole Bush and Sauds “trading favors for decades” sounded a little bit conspiracy-ish, but now that you’ve brought the Bush family’s connection to Nazi Germany and the Holocaust into it, I see that my concerns were clearly unjustified.
“The GOP had would be at critical mass right now if Obama’s family had those sorts of connections”
The GOP reaching critical mass over Obama’s connections? Uh, I don’t think so. We learned our lesson during the last election: bringing up Obama’s connections to anyone or anything at any time means you’re racist. We got it. Wouldn’t dream of bringing it up again.
“By the way, did you figure out if the King Abdullah is a monarch or a random, psychotic despot?”
Why do you ask? Did the Obama Administration suddenly reverse its policy and decide that in the future, it would make such distinctions? Or are they sticking with the current policy–there are no Arab “psychotic despots”, only “respected Muslim leaders of sovereign Middle Eastern nations that we have yet to apologize to and beg for forgiveness”?
Comment by Sean A — April 19, 2009 @ 7:37 am - April 19, 2009
I haven’t read most of Levi’s drivel… has he shown any awareness of the fact that the Clintons are as much in bed with the Saudis as the Bushes, and possibly more?
Comment by ILoveCapitalism — April 19, 2009 @ 12:55 pm - April 19, 2009
No, Sean; he’s too busy wetting himself as he looks up Joseph Kennedy and sees how the Kennedy family got itself in so well with the leftists.
Like I said, he’ll be back in a few hours once he figures out how to spin the fact that he supports anti-Semitism and endorsement of the Nazis when it comes to Ted Kennedy and the Kennedy family.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — April 19, 2009 @ 2:47 pm - April 19, 2009