There are no last chances in America. Case study: Helen Thomas.

Do you mean, what if liberals quit whining, accepted reality, and took personal responsibility for making their own happiness? They’d be conservatives.

The man belongs in prison for life, but instead, he is in congress where he continues to destroy lives and enslave people.

Thats one fantastic f*cking reason to obsess over that human filth.

What is interesting to me is the story of Matt Shepherd. Yes we heard about it in Australia. It was served up as a “gay bashing and murder”, yet from what I have read here Matt Shepherd was no angel.

Tom, I am a straight woman. I do not believe in gay marriage, just like Miss Perjean. However, I have no problem with the idea that homosexual men and women should have their relationships ratified in some way.

I am also a Christian woman (read Catholic) and I object quite strongly to the in your face behviour of some members of the gay community. It is my right to express my objection and when gay men and women bash others who are straight for expressing their opinion, they are as guilty as though who claim themselves to be Christians.

The one thing I do not believe in, and this has a lot to do with how I originally understood the Matt Shepherd case is the murder of someone because of sexual orientation, colour or religion.

What I see here is that Tom of Lazybrook is concerned with a single issue and that he might be in fact giving false information or rather a deceptive account of what actually took place. If Matt Shepherd was dealing drugs and he intended having three-way sex with the perpetrators of the crime, then (a) he acted in a very naive way where these two people were concerned; and (b) this is not the hate crime like I was led to believe here in Australia.

So I would suggest that Matt comes clean about his own politics and stop picking on those who express a conservative point of view.

It would be a real shame if GOProud!/Gaypatriot was just as bad as Virgnia Foxx. What a missed opportunity.

And if you don’t speak to this, I don’t want to hear you whining because you don’t get called for comment on Gay issues. Because you were silent on a major Gay news story.

It would be a real shame if GOProud!/Gaypatriot was just as bad as Virgnia Foxx. What a missed opportunity.

And if you don’t speak to this, I don’t want to hear you whining because you don’t get called for comment on Gay issues. Because you were silent on a major Gay news story.

You wish to condemn someone for telling the truth. How typical of the left.

Matt Shepard left a bar with two tweakers in order to do drugs and have three-way sex with them. They murdered him for drug money. He should be a cautionary example against irresponsible behavior. But you guys make a martyr out of him, and then “condemn” anyone who dares tell the truth.

Next time she’ll use a Teleprompter.

As VtK pointed out, she didn’t start it. I don’t happen to agree with her but what she said certainly isn’t controversial.

Don’t be upset if you aren’t considered a major Gay blog (I remember some of you were a bit pissed about it) that or a voice of the Gay community when you don’t speak to the issues of the day.

Seriously, there is a role for Gaypatriot and GOProud! that isn’t confrontational to the Gay mainstream while simultaneously working for your stated goals. But I don’t think an unhealthy emphasis on attacking Barney Frank (and I’m not his biggest fan) is going to do much more than feed a perception that some are just embarrassed of Gay mainstream culture or his lisp. And it isn’t going to help you be less marginalized in the Gay community. Come on guys, its starting to look really bad, this huge emphasis on Barney Frank. He’s not the most powerful person in the US Congress. Why don’t you do something useful, like go after Nancy Pelosi, who can’t seem to lead the Democrats on DADT repeal (which as far as I can tell is the only area where you agree with the Gay mainstream). Perhaps highlight your support of that. You know, there actually be times when you could actually highlight someone like Anh Cao (R-La) or go after Democrats who actually are working against Gay rights (there are about 20 of them)

So some of you guys don’t support inclusion of sexual orientation in existing Federal hate crimes laws. Do you really think highlighting that oppostion is going to do much to earn you credibility with the Gay mainstream? Do you think that is going to attract people to your group? Or is that just going to push people away who may have supporters of your group on other issues?

Do you really have to flip the bird at the Gay mainstream? If you do, don’t complain when they belittle or margainalize you.

You know, there ARE ways of attacking bad behavior of the GOP that doesn’t necessarily entail supporting the Democrats. For example, “While we don’t necessarily support Democrat xy, we wish to condemn Rep. Foxx’s assertion that Matt Shepard’s sexual orientation was not a motivation for his murder and call on her to restract that assertion”. You haven’t said you support the Matt Shepard Act, you haven’t supported a Democrat. You’ve also established yourselves as a ‘go to group’ for the Conservatives on Gay issues. Right now, a major news event to the Gay community happened (Foxx’s comments and the House passage of the Matt Shepard Act) and what is the response of GOProud! Birds chirping. If you are a Gay organization, you should opine on issues in the Gay community. And pehaps try to do it in a way that isn’t confrontational.

GOProud!/gaypatriot isn’t just talking to Tom in Lazybrook now. You claim to be a public policy group. Think about responding as if you weren’t responding to someone you believe to be a troll.

If you wish to be taken seriously, then you should address the fact (and it is true) that on the majority of LGBT issues, Democrats (with a few exceptions) tend to be better than Republicans. You’re not going to be taken seriously by anyone outside of your own group otherwise. And I don’t think that bringing up stuff from 15 or 20 years ago is going to be persuasive. Perhaps, you could find someway to do that.

What is your goal? Is it to provide a forum for a few Gay people who are quite conservative to parrot right wing talking points on non-Gay issues and insult the Gay mainstream? That’s your right. Do you think that’s going to be effective?

Perhaps you should consider representing the Conservative movement to the Gay community (and issuing peans to Samual Alito isn’t going to find much traction – exactly how did that relate to Gay rights – at least it wasn’t Scalia) as well as representing the Gay community to the Conservative Movement in a way that isn’t “hey those guys – we laugh at them too”. I don’t think you’re even trying to do the second. Which is a shame. If you aren’t willing to even mildly address Gay issues and obvious cases of ignorance (at best) within the GOP, then you don’t really have much credibility to criticize others for being partisan.

When the Stonewall Dems, NGLTF, HRC or Gill Foundation have something to say about how US Rep. Barney Frank (D, Gay-MA) is being let slide from his responsibility for our global fiscal crisis, then maybe I’ll feel compelled to discuss Foxx or Burr.

Meanwhile, aren’t we all lucky you troll here so you can help on that accord.

Didn’t Burr run for office using anti-Gay TV ads in 2004? That’s where I’m coming from on him. Not all Republicans are anti-Gay, but if you run for office highlighting your opposition to Gay rights, I don’t think its an unreasonable assertion.

But I’ll give you an opportunity to debunk my assertion about Richard Burr. From what I remember, either you or the other Gaypatriot may have been in NC during the election. Did he not run for office using ads attacking Gay marriage or highlighting his opposition to it? Has he backed away from those assertions? Has he supported any Gay rights plank? On issues where there is some third derivative Gay benefit (eg. Social Security repeal), did he highlight the Gay benefit (or was it completely coincidental)? How is he on HIV/AIDS education funding that actually reaches Gay men that are not lifelong celebates?

Once you’re done with that, you might also wish to discuss Virginia Foxx. You know it makes GOProud!/gaypatriot look pretty weak in my opinion if you don’t have a comment about it. You know, I think even the conservatives would expect you to comment on it seeing as you purport to represent the Conservative Gay community to the Conservative Republican movement. Please also note that Ms. Foxx has not recanted her assertion that the victim’s sexual orientation had nothing to do with the crime.

Oh Lord. There are boogeymen everywhere for you Tom, aren’t there?