Nope, you just have to be truthful.

The New Mexico Human Rights Commission has ordered a Christian photographer to pay $6,600 for declining to photograph a commitment ceremony between two lesbians.

That is because, Levi, gay-sex marriage is not about marriage, commitment,or anything meaningful; it is about using the law as a cudgel to attack religious people out of pure spite, hatred, and bigotry. You and your Barack Obama aid and abet this. You lie and spin, but the truth is obvious; you support forcing people to show up and support gay-sex marriage.

This, Rob.

Hopefully you and your partner carry your powers of attorney on yourselves in case something happens, and hopefully none of you have an estranged family that will try to challenge it.

Simply put, it’s the fact that your primary concern is figuring out ways in which TGC is a “victim” and how awful his life is, and then trying to convince him of the fact.

AFter all, if TGC is happy without marriage, that REALLY screws up your insistence that all gays need gay-sex marriage and can’t function without it, doesn’t it? Heck, it makes it clear that sexual orientation doesn’t require adherence to a specific ideology, which makes your behavior one of choice rather than necessity.

I mean the gays who make absolute fools of all of us by harassing folks they don’t like. I mean the ones who whine about tolerance and equality, yet have no trouble displaying their own hatred and bigotry.

I, and far too many of us, are damn sick and tired of being “represented” by these folks. Whether you like it or not, we’re embarrassed by Pride parades, Folsom Street Fair, Southern Decadence etc. We’re tired of selfish people who’d rather wallow in their misery and make everyone around them miserable instead of grabbing their sack and getting on with life.

I usually avoid the parades, but if they bother you on how much media attention they receive, how about you create your own outdoor gay event that’s family friendly in spite of the parades, and try to get the media to focus on it?

To be honest, I couldn’t give a rotten damn about “gay marriage”. I don’t need someone else’s validation for my happiness. I outgrew the idea of trying to force people to like me back in high school. I’m happy with my partner of 12 years and don’t concern myself with alleged “1,100 rights” (which nobody seems to know what they are) we’re supposedly being denied. We’ve got our shit together, we work hard, love each other and could care less what the folks down the street think.

Great then. Hopefully you and your partner carry your powers of attorney on yourselves in case something happens, and hopefully none of you have an estranged family that will try to challenge it.

And no, I don’t think that there’s a damn thing that the alleged “gay community” has done for me. I don’t even know who they are, if they really exist. And it’s beyond clear to me, based on experience, that the rainbow flag doesn’t mean squat. I was taught that it stood for inclusion and tolerance. Unfortunately, it only means inclusion and tolerance of those you want to get in the sack with. I outgrew that 12 years ago.

Actually, there is something that the ‘gay community’ did for you whether you acknowledge it or not. Would you have come out of the closet before the 1980s? Honestly I can’t see gay conservatives of your type fighting against the awful conditions of the past. That most here are able to come out of the closet came at the expense of a previous generation, because they paved the road towards equality.

So if you want to wrap yourself in the flag, with a trick, and convince yourself how miserable and rotten your life is in the greatest country on earth, that’s your problem. Just don’t try to tell me that I have to join in. We’re too busy living.

What the hell are you talking about?

You mean like those responsible for the No on Prop 8 initiative. such as Equality for All? Absolutely. They’re to be accounted for how bad they screwed up.

I mean the gays who make absolute fools of all of us by harassing folks they don’t like. I mean the ones who whine about tolerance and equality, yet have no trouble displaying their own hatred and bigotry.

I, and far too many of us, are damn sick and tired of being “represented” by these folks. Whether you like it or not, we’re embarrassed by Pride parades, Folsom Street Fair, Southern Decadence etc. We’re tired of selfish people who’d rather wallow in their misery and make everyone around them miserable instead of grabbing their sack and getting on with life.

To be honest, I couldn’t give a rotten damn about “gay marriage”. I don’t need someone else’s validation for my happiness. I outgrew the idea of trying to force people to like me back in high school. I’m happy with my partner of 12 years and don’t concern myself with alleged “1,100 rights” (which nobody seems to know what they are) we’re supposedly being denied. We’ve got our shit together, we work hard, love each other and could care less what the folks down the street think.

And no, I don’t think that there’s a damn thing that the alleged “gay community” has done for me. I don’t even know who they are, if they really exist. And it’s beyond clear to me, based on experience, that the rainbow flag doesn’t mean squat. I was taught that it stood for inclusion and tolerance. Unfortunately, it only means inclusion and tolerance of those you want to get in the sack with. I outgrew that 12 years ago.

So if you want to wrap yourself in the flag, with a trick, and convince yourself how miserable and rotten your life is in the greatest country on earth, that’s your problem. Just don’t try to tell me that I have to join in. We’re too busy living.

That’s not a serious concern – that’s fevered, homophobic paranoia. You’ve got to be a crazy person to think that there are people that want to spend their wedding day forcing a bunch of uptight, Christian assholes to hang out with them. Think about it – would you want Micheal Moore to officiate your wedding?

This is too stupid.

[Levi, if I write such stupid things, why do you spend so much time reading this blog and commenting to my posts.

Just wonderin'. --Dan]

I wonder when we should get around to gay liberals for what their bloc has done. Most recently, that dumb bitch Perez Hilton.

You mean like those responsible for the No on Prop 8 initiative. such as Equality for All? Absolutely. They’re to be accounted for how bad they screwed up. But the way this blog chastises the gay community offers very little in construction and lots in placating social ‘conservatives’ by deeming their objections as equaly valid. Even straight conservative commentators at the Secular Right blog aren’t falling for it. It’s as offending as Obama placating the Islamic world. Too many people fell for the ‘appeal to tradition’ trap of those that wish them back in the closet.

Or has the free expression of religion been “limited” by not being allowed to dominate the public square the way it used to?

For example…..?

I get the sense that gays should be “out and proud”, but not those damn dirty Christians and Jews. I suppose that would include gay Christians and Jews.

In fact it’s quite reasonable that they should fear revenge for what their bloc has done to homosexuals for the past century.

I wonder when we should get around to gay liberals for what their bloc has done. Most recently, that dumb bitch Perez Hilton.

The real problem is discrimination suits. They have damages, fines, and lawyer fees.

Private schools and clubs as well.

These would all be Balkanized in the worst fashion, and that schism will be exploited by political hacks.

The real issue though, is Trial Lawyers.

More than anything, their legislation answers the most serious concern raised by social conservatives: that state recognition of gay marriage would mean churches would be required to perform such ceremonies or lose their tax-exempt status.

Concerning fear, that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Their real fear is that of civilized society accepting gays and lesbians as people, and that their view are seen by more and more people as antigay. Their main fear has partially been realized with most of the young generation supporting gays as equals.

I don’t dismiss the social conservatives’ fears as readily as does the blogger I quote above. What he sees as a “lie,” I see as a legitimate fear, particularly given the way courts have limited the free expression of religion over the years.

Oh I don’t dismiss their fear either. In fact it’s quite reasonable that they should fear revenge for what their bloc has done to homosexuals for the past century. No intelligent gay or lesbian person should fall for their cop-out of just being anti-same-sex marriage, or ‘compassionate’ towards homosexuals with ‘love the sinner, hate the sin’ bullshit, considering how most of them opposed homosexuals before the 90s. Remember, they’re the ones that supported ‘antisodomy’ laws, continue to fund exgay ministries and conventions to use them as a political tool, and the total marginalization of homosexuals. They’re simply being politically correct because they sense their undiluted message will go wrong with the mainstream.

So yes, they should fear about being seen as the villains they trully are. But no one should silence them, just like Fred Phelps and David Duke should be free to spout their hatred. They are free to choose what they say and if they feel compelled to remain silent by social attitudes and not government, then that’s their own damned problem.

“especially when a state Supreme Court acts in direct contradiction to the will of the people.” Like when the (federal) SC made inter-racial marriage legal against the “will of the people.” It’s probably better that we don’t have courts protect the rights of the people, right? The current popular opinion should control the rights of the minority, right?

Still, the religious liberty provisions serve to answer a charge against state recognition of same-sex marriage leveled by social conservatives. They help deflate that argument while protecting religious freedom.Agree! Bonus: They also serve to show when people are lying, as those who claim these objections are the “real” problem, both conservatives and liberals, refuse to change their position/vote even when these fears are addressed by specific legislation, suggesting either bias or cowardice as the true reasons for their opposition. In many cases, we can look at their public statements to know the cause.