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		<title>By: GayPatriot &#187; Ah! the benefits of summer Supreme Court confirmation hearings(not all that many people paying attention)</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayPatriot &#187; Ah! the benefits of summer Supreme Court confirmation hearings(not all that many people paying attention)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This kind of confirms my impression of her from what I&#8217;ve read in the weeks since the President announced her nomination.  She seems to lack the intelletual firepower of the two Justices most recently appointed to the Court.  And that of such distinguished would-be Obama nominees like Pam Karlan. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This kind of confirms my impression of her from what I&#8217;ve read in the weeks since the President announced her nomination.  She seems to lack the intelletual firepower of the two Justices most recently appointed to the Court.  And that of such distinguished would-be Obama nominees like Pam Karlan. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 07:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Respect goes a long way. Pam Karlan is a class act, and I hope she will be the one to bring some humanization of LGB people to SCOTUS. I wish my fellow conservative Americans would learn to have more respect for opposing-but-open-minded views. I think conservatives would still be in power if our leaders had tried to turn our adversaries into our friends rather than enemies. We live and learn, I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Respect goes a long way. Pam Karlan is a class act, and I hope she will be the one to bring some humanization of LGB people to SCOTUS. I wish my fellow conservative Americans would learn to have more respect for opposing-but-open-minded views. I think conservatives would still be in power if our leaders had tried to turn our adversaries into our friends rather than enemies. We live and learn, I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 16:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#9 - &quot;I find it interesting that no commenter has any substantive objections to Pam Karlan.&quot;

True, because we are not emotionally geared to rhetorical arguments the way those on the left side of the aisle are.

&quot;Generic bile against Obama doesnâ€™t count.&quot;

Of course not.  What we do is document the facts and report them.  Stupid is as stupid does.

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#9 &#8211; &#8220;I find it interesting that no commenter has any substantive objections to Pam Karlan.&#8221;</p>
<p>True, because we are not emotionally geared to rhetorical arguments the way those on the left side of the aisle are.</p>
<p>&#8220;Generic bile against Obama doesnâ€™t count.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course not.  What we do is document the facts and report them.  Stupid is as stupid does.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: John Adams</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/05/04/pam-karlan-for-supreme-court/comment-page-1/#comment-417757</link>
		<dc:creator>John Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 14:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it interesting that no commenter has any substantive objections to Pam Karlan.  Generic bile against Obama doesn&#039;t count. 
Chad - Karlan is a constitutional lawyer by trade who has also written extensively on election law and has briefed issues related to same-sex marriage.  Kagan is a successful administrator, before that law professor, but without Karlan&#039;s flair for writing and depth of constitutional knowledge. Both have records of successfully reaching out to conservatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it interesting that no commenter has any substantive objections to Pam Karlan.  Generic bile against Obama doesn&#8217;t count.<br />
Chad &#8211; Karlan is a constitutional lawyer by trade who has also written extensively on election law and has briefed issues related to same-sex marriage.  Kagan is a successful administrator, before that law professor, but without Karlan&#8217;s flair for writing and depth of constitutional knowledge. Both have records of successfully reaching out to conservatives.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 07:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#4: heliotrope, while I appreciate you taking the time to post the list of Obama quotes, as a lawyer, I assure you, reading them is the intellectual equivalent of...I dunno...spending the afternoon having my teeth pulled out with a pair of pliers...enjoying a bowl of guacamole using broken shards of glass for chips...setting both of my ears on fire...

I&#039;m not sure which is more shocking, that this is apparently what they are teaching students at Harvard Law School, or that this man has been allowed to TEACH Constitutional Law.  Unbelievable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#4: heliotrope, while I appreciate you taking the time to post the list of Obama quotes, as a lawyer, I assure you, reading them is the intellectual equivalent of&#8230;I dunno&#8230;spending the afternoon having my teeth pulled out with a pair of pliers&#8230;enjoying a bowl of guacamole using broken shards of glass for chips&#8230;setting both of my ears on fire&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure which is more shocking, that this is apparently what they are teaching students at Harvard Law School, or that this man has been allowed to TEACH Constitutional Law.  Unbelievable.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 02:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Yes, I fully expect Associate Justice Sharpton will be on the court by this time next yearâ€¦&lt;/blockquote&gt;

True. Tawana Brawley and &quot;diamond merchants&quot; could only enhance one&#039;s resume. Although, I think Justice Wright or Justice Ayers is more likely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yes, I fully expect Associate Justice Sharpton will be on the court by this time next yearâ€¦</p></blockquote>
<p>True. Tawana Brawley and &#8220;diamond merchants&#8221; could only enhance one&#8217;s resume. Although, I think Justice Wright or Justice Ayers is more likely.</p>
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		<title>By: John Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 00:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If Obama wants to appoint a Scalia for the left, he should choose Pam Karlan, a longtime colleague of mine at Virginia who now teaches at Stanford. Pam is (1) brilliant, (2) broadly knowledgeable â€” Cass Sunstein aside, I canâ€™t think of anyone who knows so much about so many different legal fields â€” and (3) a spectacularly gifted writer.&quot; [William Stuntz]


[W]e must also acknowledge that it is quite likely Obama will (and really should) pick a woman to join lonely RBG on the bench.  If this is the case, then I&#039;d like to endorse Pam Karlan, Stanford Law professor, brilliant con law scholar, [and] experienced Supreme Court advocate, to be the next Justice.  Among other things, Karlan is genuinely funny--I mean, really truly funny--and could likely not only give Scalia a run for his money as the justice who gets the most laughs from the bench, but also put Scalia in his place by showing him what someone who is really funny--and not just using his high perch to make people feel uncomfortable--sounds like from the bench. [Jay Wexler] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If Obama wants to appoint a Scalia for the left, he should choose Pam Karlan, a longtime colleague of mine at Virginia who now teaches at Stanford. Pam is (1) brilliant, (2) broadly knowledgeable â€” Cass Sunstein aside, I canâ€™t think of anyone who knows so much about so many different legal fields â€” and (3) a spectacularly gifted writer.&#8221; [William Stuntz]</p>
<p>[W]e must also acknowledge that it is quite likely Obama will (and really should) pick a woman to join lonely RBG on the bench.  If this is the case, then I&#8217;d like to endorse Pam Karlan, Stanford Law professor, brilliant con law scholar, [and] experienced Supreme Court advocate, to be the next Justice.  Among other things, Karlan is genuinely funny&#8211;I mean, really truly funny&#8211;and could likely not only give Scalia a run for his money as the justice who gets the most laughs from the bench, but also put Scalia in his place by showing him what someone who is really funny&#8211;and not just using his high perch to make people feel uncomfortable&#8211;sounds like from the bench. [Jay Wexler]</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 23:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œWe could do worse, and probably will.â€œ  Yes, I fully expect Associate Justice Sharpton will be on the court by this time next year...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œWe could do worse, and probably will.â€œ  Yes, I fully expect Associate Justice Sharpton will be on the court by this time next year&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: heliotrope</title>
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		<dc:creator>heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 23:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last Friday, Rush had Obama speaking at various times on his core beliefs about a Supreme Court Justice. Read it and weep:&lt;blockquote&gt;
OBAMA JULY 2007:Â  We need somebody who&#039;s got the empathy to recognize what it&#039;s like to be uh, a -- a -- a young teenaged mom. Uh, the empathy to understand what it&#039;s like to be poor, or African-American, or gay, or disabled.


OBAMA NOVEMBER:Â  Sometimes we&#039;re only looking at academics or people who have been in the courts.Â  If we can find people who have life experience and they understand what it means to be on the outside, what it means to have the system not work for them, that&#039;s the kind of person I want on the Supreme Court.


OBAMA:Â  What I do want is a judge who is sympathetic enough to those who are on the outside, those who are vulnerable, those who are powerless, those who can&#039;t have access to political power, and as a consequence, can&#039;t protect themselves from being dealt with sometimes unfairly.

OBAMA:Â  If you look at the victories and failures of the civil rights movement and its litigation strategy in the court, I think where it succeeded was to invest formal rights in previously dispossessed peoples so that I would now have the right to vote, I would now be able to sit at the lunch counter and -- and order and, as long as I could pay for it, I&#039;d be okay, but the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth and sort of more basic issues of political and economic justice in the society.

OBAMA:Â  As radical as I think people tried to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn&#039;t that radical.Â  It didn&#039;t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution, at least as it&#039;s been interpreted, and Warren Court interpreted it in the same way that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties, says what the states can&#039;t do to you, says what the federal government can&#039;t do to you, but it doesn&#039;t say what the federal government or the state government must do on your behalf, and that hasn&#039;t shifted, and one of the tragedies of the civil rights movement was because the civil rights movement became so court focused, I think that there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change.Â  And in some ways we still suffer from that.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last Friday, Rush had Obama speaking at various times on his core beliefs about a Supreme Court Justice. Read it and weep:<br />
<blockquote>
OBAMA JULY 2007:Â  We need somebody who&#8217;s got the empathy to recognize what it&#8217;s like to be uh, a &#8212; a &#8212; a young teenaged mom. Uh, the empathy to understand what it&#8217;s like to be poor, or African-American, or gay, or disabled.</p>
<p>OBAMA NOVEMBER:Â  Sometimes we&#8217;re only looking at academics or people who have been in the courts.Â  If we can find people who have life experience and they understand what it means to be on the outside, what it means to have the system not work for them, that&#8217;s the kind of person I want on the Supreme Court.</p>
<p>OBAMA:Â  What I do want is a judge who is sympathetic enough to those who are on the outside, those who are vulnerable, those who are powerless, those who can&#8217;t have access to political power, and as a consequence, can&#8217;t protect themselves from being dealt with sometimes unfairly.</p>
<p>OBAMA:Â  If you look at the victories and failures of the civil rights movement and its litigation strategy in the court, I think where it succeeded was to invest formal rights in previously dispossessed peoples so that I would now have the right to vote, I would now be able to sit at the lunch counter and &#8212; and order and, as long as I could pay for it, I&#8217;d be okay, but the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth and sort of more basic issues of political and economic justice in the society.</p>
<p>OBAMA:Â  As radical as I think people tried to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn&#8217;t that radical.Â  It didn&#8217;t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution, at least as it&#8217;s been interpreted, and Warren Court interpreted it in the same way that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties, says what the states can&#8217;t do to you, says what the federal government can&#8217;t do to you, but it doesn&#8217;t say what the federal government or the state government must do on your behalf, and that hasn&#8217;t shifted, and one of the tragedies of the civil rights movement was because the civil rights movement became so court focused, I think that there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change.Â  And in some ways we still suffer from that.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 22:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is interesting. in your view, what makes her a better choice than kagan or wood, both of whom have academic resumes that rival karlan&#039;s?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is interesting. in your view, what makes her a better choice than kagan or wood, both of whom have academic resumes that rival karlan&#8217;s?</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 22:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It would be a feather in the Presidentâ€™s cap if he nominated someone who, throughout her career, has shown such respect for her ideological adversaries.&quot;

If she truly treats opponents with respect, you can be sure that this is a major disqualifier for her in this administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It would be a feather in the Presidentâ€™s cap if he nominated someone who, throughout her career, has shown such respect for her ideological adversaries.&#8221;</p>
<p>If she truly treats opponents with respect, you can be sure that this is a major disqualifier for her in this administration.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 22:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If her taxes are in order, she won&#039;t get selected by Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If her taxes are in order, she won&#8217;t get selected by Obama.</p>
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