Comments on: My sort-of review of Star Trek http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/05/08/my-sort-of-review-of-star-trek/ The Internet home for American gay conservatives. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:49:12 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Peter Hughes http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/05/08/my-sort-of-review-of-star-trek/comment-page-1/#comment-419033 Peter Hughes Sat, 09 May 2009 15:49:10 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=11601#comment-419033 Casey, don't forget Shatner's role in the Twilight Zone episode "Gremlins on the Plane." Classic. Regards, Peter H. Casey, don’t forget Shatner’s role in the Twilight Zone episode “Gremlins on the Plane.” Classic.

Regards,
Peter H.

]]> By: Casey http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/05/08/my-sort-of-review-of-star-trek/comment-page-1/#comment-418954 Casey Sat, 09 May 2009 06:39:17 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=11601#comment-418954 My apologies. Post-Post-Script. A few months ago, someone over at Ace of Spades cracked me up when they commented that the two best <i>Star Trek</i> episodes ever made were <i>Galaxy Quest</i> and <i>Master and Commander</i>. My apologies. Post-Post-Script.

A few months ago, someone over at Ace of Spades cracked me up when they commented that the two best Star Trek episodes ever made were Galaxy Quest and Master and Commander.

]]> By: Casey http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/05/08/my-sort-of-review-of-star-trek/comment-page-1/#comment-418953 Casey Sat, 09 May 2009 06:35:33 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=11601#comment-418953 Whoops, did forget a Post Script. :) I would like to take a moment to point out that William Shatner had a creditable Broadway career before he was hired for <i>Star Trek</i>, including <i>A Shot In The Dark</i> with Julie Harris and Walter Mattau. It would seem unfair to focus all the snark on Kirk, when the series itself went downhill pretty much after the middle of the second season, not to mention the terrible third. Uhura mucked with frequencies, Spock was fascinated, Scotty could keep up with neither the dilithyum crystals nor the engines ("me porr bairns!"), Sulu would look worried, Checkov Russianly sullen, and McCoy could protest he was a "doctor, not a XXX, dammit!" Oh, and Chapel would moon about like a love-sick girl. Campiest episode? <i>Spock's Brain</i>, not <i>Shatner's Delivery</i>. Whoops, did forget a Post Script. :)

I would like to take a moment to point out that William Shatner had a creditable Broadway career before he was hired for Star Trek, including A Shot In The Dark with Julie Harris and Walter Mattau.

It would seem unfair to focus all the snark on Kirk, when the series itself went downhill pretty much after the middle of the second season, not to mention the terrible third.

Uhura mucked with frequencies, Spock was fascinated, Scotty could keep up with neither the dilithyum crystals nor the engines (“me porr bairns!”), Sulu would look worried, Checkov Russianly sullen, and McCoy could protest he was a “doctor, not a XXX, dammit!” Oh, and Chapel would moon about like a love-sick girl.

Campiest episode? Spock’s Brain, not Shatner’s Delivery.

]]> By: Casey http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/05/08/my-sort-of-review-of-star-trek/comment-page-1/#comment-418948 Casey Sat, 09 May 2009 06:15:30 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=11601#comment-418948 For GPWest, and anyone else interested, check out Chris Pine in <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0454084/" rel="nofollow">Blind Dating</a>, wherein he plays a blind man who dates his therapist's new secretary (Anjali Jay), a first-generation daughter of immigrant Indian parents, who still have <i>very</i> strong views about dating inside one's "race." The movie echoes <i>My Big Fat Greek Wedding</i> in certain respects. Eddie Kay Thomas plays Chris Pine/Danny's earthy brother, and Jane Seymour as Danny's therapist, who demonstrates an embarrassing habit of disrobing during Danny's sessions. An occasionally odd, but rather pleasant movie. If you can't get enough of chick-flicks, or rom-com, check out <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0397078/" rel="nofollow">Just My Luck</a>, yet another Lindsay Lohan vehicle, wherein Mr. Pine is case opposite Disney's latest thespian triumph. Almost forgot, he was also in <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0475394/" rel="nofollow">Smokin Aces</a>, as one of the psychotic Tremor Brothers. For GPWest, and anyone else interested, check out Chris Pine in Blind Dating, wherein he plays a blind man who dates his therapist’s new secretary (Anjali Jay), a first-generation daughter of immigrant Indian parents, who still have very strong views about dating inside one’s “race.” The movie echoes My Big Fat Greek Wedding in certain respects. Eddie Kay Thomas plays Chris Pine/Danny’s earthy brother, and Jane Seymour as Danny’s therapist, who demonstrates an embarrassing habit of disrobing during Danny’s sessions.

An occasionally odd, but rather pleasant movie.

If you can’t get enough of chick-flicks, or rom-com, check out Just My Luck, yet another Lindsay Lohan vehicle, wherein Mr. Pine is case opposite Disney’s latest thespian triumph.

Almost forgot, he was also in Smokin Aces, as one of the psychotic Tremor Brothers.

]]> By: Moe Lane » Some Friday Night links. http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/05/08/my-sort-of-review-of-star-trek/comment-page-1/#comment-418916 Moe Lane » Some Friday Night links. Sat, 09 May 2009 04:34:51 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=11601#comment-418916 [...] has likewise reviewed the Star Trek [...] [...] has likewise reviewed the Star Trek [...]

]]> By: Sonicfrog http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/05/08/my-sort-of-review-of-star-trek/comment-page-1/#comment-418860 Sonicfrog Sat, 09 May 2009 00:43:50 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=11601#comment-418860 The Jar-Jar threat is there, but it never materializes. The Jar-Jar threat is there, but it never materializes.

]]> By: Anon387823 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/05/08/my-sort-of-review-of-star-trek/comment-page-1/#comment-418811 Anon387823 Fri, 08 May 2009 22:35:52 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=11601#comment-418811 ...“wasn’t a boring moment” in the entire flick.... Time to remember Star Trek The Motion Picture (1979). I remember waiting for the movie to end. It was a long wait. …“wasn’t a boring moment” in the entire flick….

Time to remember Star Trek The Motion Picture (1979). I remember waiting for the movie to end. It was a long wait.

]]> By: John http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/05/08/my-sort-of-review-of-star-trek/comment-page-1/#comment-418783 John Fri, 08 May 2009 21:25:30 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=11601#comment-418783 Dan, I'm going to see it next weekend. Can't wait! It will be weird to see "Sylar" as "Spock" though. Sonic: If this movie does have a Jar Jar type character, I hope he dies a horrible death. Sorry, but I truly despised Jar Jar... Dan, I’m going to see it next weekend. Can’t wait! It will be weird to see “Sylar” as “Spock” though.

Sonic: If this movie does have a Jar Jar type character, I hope he dies a horrible death. Sorry, but I truly despised Jar Jar…

]]> By: Peter Hughes http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/05/08/my-sort-of-review-of-star-trek/comment-page-1/#comment-418754 Peter Hughes Fri, 08 May 2009 20:44:10 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=11601#comment-418754 Just because an actor is gay doesn't mean they have to have their character gay as well. After all, isn't that what "acting" is all about? Look how many famous TV and film characters were portrayed as straight by gay actors. And vice versa. Unless you are worried about typecasting, you should just play the part and leave your personal life out of it. That's probably why a lot of good shows or movies suffered was because of the overlap between actor and character. Regards, Peter H. Just because an actor is gay doesn’t mean they have to have their character gay as well. After all, isn’t that what “acting” is all about?

Look how many famous TV and film characters were portrayed as straight by gay actors. And vice versa.

Unless you are worried about typecasting, you should just play the part and leave your personal life out of it. That’s probably why a lot of good shows or movies suffered was because of the overlap between actor and character.

Regards,
Peter H.

]]> By: The Livewire http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/05/08/my-sort-of-review-of-star-trek/comment-page-1/#comment-418685 The Livewire Fri, 08 May 2009 18:01:40 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=11601#comment-418685 Nope Ashpenaz, they didn't touch on that. On the <a href="http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/community/arts/movies/whyIWillNotBeGoingToSeeStarTrek" rel="nofollow">Paizo boards</a> It's been debated to death. They'd have to retcon Sulu's daughter though. Nope Ashpenaz, they didn’t touch on that.

On the Paizo boards It’s been debated to death.

They’d have to retcon Sulu’s daughter though.

]]> By: Ashpenaz http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/05/08/my-sort-of-review-of-star-trek/comment-page-1/#comment-418654 Ashpenaz Fri, 08 May 2009 17:05:38 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=11601#comment-418654 Do they make Sulu gay? I think George Takei would want that. He was hilarious in a guest spot on Psych. Do they make Sulu gay? I think George Takei would want that. He was hilarious in a guest spot on Psych.

]]> By: Roberto http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/05/08/my-sort-of-review-of-star-trek/comment-page-1/#comment-418652 Roberto Fri, 08 May 2009 17:03:52 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=11601#comment-418652 It will take a while for it to come south of the border. I enjoyed the original series and the movies with the original crew. Among my personal collection are Abbott and Costello movies. I have both VHS and dvd´s. I seem to remember in the theatrical release of the movie, Hit The Ice, Sonja Henie, a figure skating champion had a cameo appearance doing a routine, but in the cassette and dvd copies she has been edited out. It makes me wonder if I had dreamed her appearance in the original release. It will take a while for it to come south of the border. I enjoyed the original series and the movies with the original crew. Among my personal collection are Abbott and Costello movies. I have both VHS and dvd´s. I seem to remember in the theatrical release of the movie, Hit The Ice, Sonja Henie, a figure skating champion had a cameo appearance doing a routine, but in the cassette and dvd copies she has been edited out. It makes me wonder if I had dreamed her appearance in the original release.

]]> By: Peter Hughes http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/05/08/my-sort-of-review-of-star-trek/comment-page-1/#comment-418609 Peter Hughes Fri, 08 May 2009 14:35:09 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=11601#comment-418609 Not a Trekkie but love seeing gorgeous men on the screen in good roles (and Chris Pine is a hottie)! I'll take everyone's collective word on it and go see it. I'm also planning on seeing hotter-than-July Hugh Jackman as Wolverine in "X-Men Origins." Regards, Peter H. Not a Trekkie but love seeing gorgeous men on the screen in good roles (and Chris Pine is a hottie)! I’ll take everyone’s collective word on it and go see it.

I’m also planning on seeing hotter-than-July Hugh Jackman as Wolverine in “X-Men Origins.”

Regards,
Peter H.

]]> By: Sonicfrog http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/05/08/my-sort-of-review-of-star-trek/comment-page-1/#comment-418597 Sonicfrog Fri, 08 May 2009 13:59:34 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=11601#comment-418597 .... And, no one reverses the polarity, sends anything over a tachion beam, or realigns the dilithium crystals. I mean really, just how many times can you realign the dilithium crystals before you either start getting diminished returns for your efforts, or they simply blow themselves up in frustration for being jiggered with so much! …. And, no one reverses the polarity, sends anything over a tachion beam, or realigns the dilithium crystals. I mean really, just how many times can you realign the dilithium crystals before you either start getting diminished returns for your efforts, or they simply blow themselves up in frustration for being jiggered with so much!

]]> By: Sonicfrog http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/05/08/my-sort-of-review-of-star-trek/comment-page-1/#comment-418590 Sonicfrog Fri, 08 May 2009 13:33:50 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=11601#comment-418590 Saw it last night. For the last year and a half I had been preparing myself to hate it...... Came out of the theater thoroughly pleased. I'm not going to give anything away, but I will say that even though it's a prequel, it never falls into the "Star Wars" trap of trying to explain every little detail of the characters or stick so closely to the original series that you already know whats going to happen at every moment. There is one character who threatens to become a Trekkie Ewok / R2D2 / Jar Jar Binks, but thank GOD it's never given the time to do so. The casting is great. Everyone does a fine job here. The guy who plays Dr. McCoy does an outstanding job. For me, the show stealer is Simon Pegg as Scotty. He absolutely NAILS it. Gotta do some push-ups and get ready for work now. Saw it last night. For the last year and a half I had been preparing myself to hate it…… Came out of the theater thoroughly pleased. I’m not going to give anything away, but I will say that even though it’s a prequel, it never falls into the “Star Wars” trap of trying to explain every little detail of the characters or stick so closely to the original series that you already know whats going to happen at every moment. There is one character who threatens to become a Trekkie Ewok / R2D2 / Jar Jar Binks, but thank GOD it’s never given the time to do so.

The casting is great. Everyone does a fine job here. The guy who plays Dr. McCoy does an outstanding job. For me, the show stealer is Simon Pegg as Scotty. He absolutely NAILS it. Gotta do some push-ups and get ready for work now.

]]> By: The Livewire http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/05/08/my-sort-of-review-of-star-trek/comment-page-1/#comment-418530 The Livewire Fri, 08 May 2009 10:38:44 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=11601#comment-418530 I've read that Chris Pine was trying to emulate some of Shatner's 'Kirk-like' attributes w/o being a charactiture. Also, I don't know about professional reviews, but Wil Wheaton liked it. I've communicated w/him via e-mail as one gamer to another, and follow him on Twitter. That cinched it for me going to watch it. I mean it's no Beowulf.... I’ve read that Chris Pine was trying to emulate some of Shatner’s ‘Kirk-like’ attributes w/o being a charactiture.

Also, I don’t know about professional reviews, but Wil Wheaton liked it. I’ve communicated w/him via e-mail as one gamer to another, and follow him on Twitter. That cinched it for me going to watch it.

I mean it’s no Beowulf….

]]> By: GayPatriot http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/05/08/my-sort-of-review-of-star-trek/comment-page-1/#comment-418517 GayPatriot Fri, 08 May 2009 10:06:25 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=11601#comment-418517 Dan- We went to see it last night at an unexpected Thurs showing. We both LOVED it. Chris Pine was incredible and believable as a young Captain Kirk. I expected Zachary Quinto (Spock) to steal the show, and was pleasantly surprised that Pine came through shoulders above. This is a definitely MUST-SEE. And one of the few movies in the past 20 years where I plan to see it again. Dan-

We went to see it last night at an unexpected Thurs showing. We both LOVED it. Chris Pine was incredible and believable as a young Captain Kirk. I expected Zachary Quinto (Spock) to steal the show, and was pleasantly surprised that Pine came through shoulders above.

This is a definitely MUST-SEE. And one of the few movies in the past 20 years where I plan to see it again.

]]> By: GayPatriotWest http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/05/08/my-sort-of-review-of-star-trek/comment-page-1/#comment-418508 GayPatriotWest Fri, 08 May 2009 09:43:52 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=11601#comment-418508 Casey, no, I haven't seen any of Chris Pine's work, so I take your point. Maybe he is a good actor, doing an amazing job imitating Shatner's portrayal of Kirk. Casey, no, I haven’t seen any of Chris Pine’s work, so I take your point. Maybe he is a good actor, doing an amazing job imitating Shatner’s portrayal of Kirk.

]]> By: Casey http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/05/08/my-sort-of-review-of-star-trek/comment-page-1/#comment-418505 Casey Fri, 08 May 2009 09:30:57 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=11601#comment-418505 Is that supposed to be a shot at Chris Pine? If so, you should check out some of his other work, first. As for <i>Trek</i> in general, far too many people have developed some sort of serious-psychosis about, well, the series psychosis... :) The original series was, above all, <i>fun</i>, something that the idiot team of Brannon/Braga managed to have forgotten; which is why everything but TNG has been a (relative) bomb. I just spent some time reading the "pro" reviews at movies.yahoo.com, and everyone <b>but</b> Ebert raved about the film. Considering that the story line related to manliness, courage, leadership, and personal audacity I'm not surprised Mr. Ebert gave it a "thumbs down." He is generally a very good movie critic, but he has very specific blind spots; usually involving <i>cojones</i>. Especially when this involves Alpha males. I especially can't wait to set Karl Urban and Simon Pegg in character. If anyone else needs a handle on this, try thinking about the "re-imagining" of Battlestar Galactica a few years ago. On the other hand, while the re-imaging worked, the follow-up writing <i><b>sucked</b></i>, especially after season 2... Is that supposed to be a shot at Chris Pine? If so, you should check out some of his other work, first.

As for Trek in general, far too many people have developed some sort of serious-psychosis about, well, the series psychosis… :)

The original series was, above all, fun, something that the idiot team of Brannon/Braga managed to have forgotten; which is why everything but TNG has been a (relative) bomb.

I just spent some time reading the “pro” reviews at movies.yahoo.com, and everyone but Ebert raved about the film. Considering that the story line related to manliness, courage, leadership, and personal audacity I’m not surprised Mr. Ebert gave it a “thumbs down.” He is generally a very good movie critic, but he has very specific blind spots; usually involving cojones. Especially when this involves Alpha males.

I especially can’t wait to set Karl Urban and Simon Pegg in character.

If anyone else needs a handle on this, try thinking about the “re-imagining” of Battlestar Galactica a few years ago. On the other hand, while the re-imaging worked, the follow-up writing sucked, especially after season 2…

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