So if you’re lumping ‘Californians’ together in an initiative ’50 years ago’ as their consensus, surely you agree that lumping the democrats into their long history of opposition to equality is fair.

My reading skills are fine, Alec. Your logic skills are lacking.

What in the hell are you talking about? I was referring to the passage of a popular initiative in California over half a century ago. I didn’t say anything about party politics. It was about direct demoracy. Can you read?

Got it.

H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y

Why can’t these people show some class, some grace, in confronting their adversaries?

Ha ha ha ha ha! Very funny, Dan!

People can’t show class and grace when they don’t have any.

Nice try.

As for the rest, since all you have left is “gay sex liberal” and “Mr. Baldwin,” I’ll leave you to your rot.

What Alec considers racist, clearly, is not being allowed to discriminate on the basis of race.

Alec,
I am not in favor of pure majority rule, no one’s rights should be up to a majority vote. But getting benefits for a behavior you refuse to exhibit is not a right as the United States Supreme Court settled when they rejected precisely that argument in Baker v. Nelson. The people, therefore, have the right to define marriage as they deem best.

YOU, on the other hand, would take that right to self governance away from them to feed your deep seated need to have people lie to you, by telling you homosexuality and heterosexuality are the same. They aren’t. Deal with it.

That is something the homos cant seem to get through their big gay heads.

Well who would expect much more from the comments at this site?

Are you seriously such an enormous girl that you are going to tell me you are offended by that??? Grow up!

http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2006-10-04-paris-hilton_x.htm

BTW, American Elephant, Californians also affirmed racial apartheid in initiatives.

Yeah, Prop 209/Civil Rights Act of 1964….real examples of apartheid there, buddy.

Anyway, gays will find tolerance with the Right (and the majority of Americans) but they will not find approval. But that’s ok because there’s a lot of things I don’t approve of that I think people should have the freedom to do.

Heck if I know, Dan – most if not all the gay lefties I know have no concept of the word “shame.”

Regards,
Peter H.

Regards,
Peter H.

Most Americans support Roe v. Wade. I find it hard to believe you are in favor of an ethical or legal system based on pure majority rule.

1) I have not seen the statistics that back your statement vis a vis Roe v. Wade.

2) How does the assertion that “(m)ost Americans support Roe v. Wade” lead to the conclusion AE or anyone therefore is “in favor of an ethical or legal system based on pure majority rule.”?

3) The ethos and mores of a society are, in fact, the outcome of majority opinion. I will drop the word rule, for this reason. The majority can be made to adapt to nearly any ethos and set of mores. The gestapo, Pol Pot, thought police, etc. can have a remarkable effect on how a society acts and believes. They assess safety first and act accordingly.

4) Europe is being over populated by Islamic people and every European country is adapting to aspects of Sharia. Sharia is an ethical and legal system of its own. To ignore this reality is to feign ignorance of daily political strife in England, Holland, Denmark, Sweden, France, Spain and even Canada where the Canadian Human Rights Commission has made a total bollux of thought police enforcement against objecting to Sharia.

For these reasons and more, I can not get a grasp of the meaning of what you stated above.

(pc is such a miasmic attack on clear language)

Well put and Amen.

Behind political correctness is a the mind of a censor. Behind the mind of the censor is a the intolerance of a prig. Behind the intolerance of a prig is an appeal to authority. Behind the appeal to authority is the oligarchy, gestapo, fascist, politburo, thought police, big brother, ministry of truth, fairness doctrine, affirmative speak, bureau of state propaganda, Congressional show trials, dictator and on and on and on. (Look at how many colleges run their students through indoctrination programs so that they will learn to think and speak correctly. If you do not love and promote diversity, you are a bigot. If you do not understand how a gay or a black or a woman or a fat person or an abused child, etc. understands reality, you are a bigot. It is all so predetermined and hypocritical. It is patent intolerance of those who do not fit the diversity mold. And it is fueled by a mighty righteous indignation.)

The mind that dwells on political correctness also invents hate crimes and is ever ready to judge and punish motive.