Comments on: Californians: Vote “No” on Props 1A-E Today:Higher Taxes and Bigger Budgets Not Answer to Current Crisis

By: Ted B. (Charging Rhino)

Ted B. (Charging Rhino) — Tue, 19 May 2009 21:08:51 +0000

Here in NJ the (non-essential) state employees are being furloughed one day-a-month to save money…and they’re complaining and suing and picketting…AND they have the gall to try to claim “unemplyement compensation” from that State (meaning the NJ taxpayers) for that day’s furlough.

If it were me I’d just summarily fire 15% of the entire State civilian payroll and figure-out afterwards how to cope. That’s what families and small businesses due, cope with it.

By: torrentprime

torrentprime — Tue, 19 May 2009 19:53:37 +0000

Hi robert – thanks for the correction; they do mention taxes. Mea culpa. So they keep current taxes at the current rate. Not exactly “higher taxes.”

Anyhoo – it looks like we all get we want, barring a miracle. Survey USA has 5 of the 6 props going down.

By: Stogie

Stogie — Tue, 19 May 2009 19:19:05 +0000

I voted just as you suggested, GP! No on all but the last one. Starve those rotten liberal spendthrifts out of business!

By: Robert

Robert — Tue, 19 May 2009 17:40:11 +0000

@HCN – so what? They all live or die together on the issue. Voters that vote against bad ballot initatives get penalized all the time by the ones that vote for them and they pass. I will sleep just fine at night putting a pox on all their houses.

By: HCN

HCN — Tue, 19 May 2009 17:01:26 +0000

Robert, I understand what you are saying, but sometimes doing their job is to not vote for a bad budget and 1F says they don’t get a raise if they don’t have a balance budget or they get a raise if they pass a balance budget, whether it’s a good budget or not. So 1F will penalize legislators that votes against a bad budget.

By: Robert

Robert — Tue, 19 May 2009 16:22:23 +0000

@torrentprime – actually:

“If Proposition 1A is passed, $10 billion in “temporary” sales, use, income and vehicle taxes imposed as part of the 2009-2010 budget agreement would each be extended for one or two years, resulting in a further tax increase of some $16 billion. [2],[3]

See the posted addendum. That isn’t just a budget gimmick.

By: torrentprime

torrentprime — Tue, 19 May 2009 16:17:55 +0000

And from the other side: These ballot props will not raise taxes. They don’t even mention taxes. I noticed that you were careful in your post to never actually say that the props have anything to do with taxes. But if linking your anti-tax beliefs to the ballot props get you all to vote no, then by all means – preach it, brothers!

I’m voted no across the board, as they are just budget gimmickry and games, and do nothing to solve our budget problems. A host of progressive and conservative groups oppose these ballot props, so we’ll be united in this one. Here’s to seeing them go down in defeat.

By: Peter Hughes

Peter Hughes — Tue, 19 May 2009 14:45:45 +0000

#5&6 – Also, Texas has no state income tax, a governor with VERY limited enumerated constitutional powers, an elected state judiciary and increased power at the local levels.

No wonder liberals want to throw out the 1876 Texas Constitution and replace it with a more socialistic one!

Regards,
Peter H.

By: Robert

Robert — Tue, 19 May 2009 14:30:46 +0000

@ILoveCapitalism: you forgot 1 other commonality that probably is why those states are doing as well as they are – they are have part-time legislatures.

California, Michigan, New York and Pennsylvania all have full-time legislatures and are in horrible shape.

It costs $200 dollars in California and 694,354 signatures to put a Constitutional Amendment on the ballot. I am actually thinking of forking that over myself just to get the ball rolling.

By: ILoveCapitalism

ILoveCapitalism — Tue, 19 May 2009 14:09:02 +0000

It’s funny how Texas, Louisiana and Alaska are among the best States economically, right now. (What they have in common is relatively low-ish taxes & GOP governors.)

By: Robert

Robert — Tue, 19 May 2009 13:17:23 +0000

No on everything except 1F. Feel-good or not, I don’t want these lousy bastards voting themselves a raise when they aren’t doing their jobs. I haven’t had a raise in two years and I AM doing my job.

By: eaglewingz08

eaglewingz08 — Tue, 19 May 2009 12:45:16 +0000

In NYS the mis “Education’ Department after more than twenty years of ignoring yoga classes and yoga studios and not receiving a single complaint about them, suddenly determined that yoga teachers and classes needed ‘state licensing’ as a ‘professional studio’ and immediately demanded all studios to close down until the ‘eight month process’ to license and ‘train’ and ‘approve’ each studio’s curriculum was done by the state, and the state receive five hundred dollars from each studio for receiving the beneficence of the state’s imprimatur. There has been some pushback against this overreaching, but to libtards in NYS government, the push for power and taxation even in the ‘worst recession’ since Herbert Hoover, goes on unabated.

By: david t sanson

david t sanson — Tue, 19 May 2009 12:08:20 +0000

To those who think that they can spend your money better and/or smarter than you can, it makes perfect sense. And many people vote for them. I wish that every time an incumbent stated that they brought projects or money “home” to their constituants, they were pressed on who they took it From.

Not gonna happen.

By: ThatGayConservative

ThatGayConservative — Tue, 19 May 2009 08:10:36 +0000

And the same applies on the national level. Why in the hell would anybody think that higher taxes are the answer? Who looks across the country at the failed states with high taxes, and proposals to raise more, and say “That’s the answer!”?

By: Mark J. Goluskin

Mark J. Goluskin — Tue, 19 May 2009 06:15:43 +0000

And voters should reject Prop 1F as well! If it was not for the political whore, “Republican” state sen. Abel Maldonaldo, we may not be voting for these measures. Sen. Maldonaldo bought the sky-is-falling rhetoric bantied by Gov. Benedict Arnold and his Democrat buds. The Orange County Register said it best that it is nothing more than a feel good measure. VOTE NO ON ALL SIX TAX AND ROBBERY MEASURES!