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	<title>Comments on: Athena&#8217;s Sage Advice to the GOP:Apply Reaganesque Ideas to Contemporary Concerns</title>
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		<title>By: GayPatriot &#187; I was wrong; George Will remains on Olympus</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayPatriot &#187; I was wrong; George Will remains on Olympus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] True to the spirit of the Claremont Institute which hosted the event, Will celebrated the founders.  Praising the constitutional system of checks and balances, he reminded us that &#8220;government gridlock is not an American problem, it&#8217;s an American achievement.&#8221;  We should be backward-looking, he said, to the ideas of the founders, so we can look forward to face the problems of today (similar to the sage advice Athena Peggy Noonan offered at the Reagan Library last month). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] True to the spirit of the Claremont Institute which hosted the event, Will celebrated the founders.  Praising the constitutional system of checks and balances, he reminded us that &#8220;government gridlock is not an American problem, it&#8217;s an American achievement.&#8221;  We should be backward-looking, he said, to the ideas of the founders, so we can look forward to face the problems of today (similar to the sage advice Athena Peggy Noonan offered at the Reagan Library last month). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Classical Liberal Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Classical Liberal Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 02:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean A at #27:

&lt;blockquote&gt;What is that awful racket?! It sounds like a swarm of killer bees attacking a chain saw inside a phone booth filled with 25 cats. ... Hopefully it will go away soon.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s the sound of a Leftist proving he doesn&#039;t deserve the privilege of discourse here. I too would like it to go away -- permanently. 

Levi at #26:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Daring to raise questions they don’t want asked…. yeah right.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, right. That&#039;s exactly what I did, and the consequence were exactly as I described.

I won&#039;t bother with any further attempt to defend myself on this point; I don&#039;t have to justify myself to you, Levi. You&#039;re the one who jumped into the conversation with the behavior of a jackass, not I. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;In my experience, the people that start asking for other people to be banned (this would be you) are the weakest debaters.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

My comments here on Gay Patriot can speak for my debating skills. As for your attempting to criticize another person&#039;s powers of debate, that is surely a pot calling a kettle black: You have done nothing here but throw stones at others. You have certainly made no attempt to debate anything.

As for calling for a ban another commenter, I have never done so before on any web log. I was moved to do so for the first time here by your stupid and despicable behavior.

As Dan said above, you prefer to insult those whose political thinking you don&#039;t like than to offer anything approaching a useful criticism. It&#039;s Bruce&#039;s decision whether or not you can continue with such behavior, not mine. (Perhaps Bruce likes having you around as an example of leftist idiocy.) 

For the sake of those who have to deal with you face-to-face, I only hope you aren&#039;t this stupid and nasty in person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean A at #27:</p>
<blockquote><p>What is that awful racket?! It sounds like a swarm of killer bees attacking a chain saw inside a phone booth filled with 25 cats. &#8230; Hopefully it will go away soon.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s the sound of a Leftist proving he doesn&#8217;t deserve the privilege of discourse here. I too would like it to go away &#8212; permanently. </p>
<p>Levi at #26:</p>
<blockquote><p>Daring to raise questions they don’t want asked…. yeah right.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, right. That&#8217;s exactly what I did, and the consequence were exactly as I described.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t bother with any further attempt to defend myself on this point; I don&#8217;t have to justify myself to you, Levi. You&#8217;re the one who jumped into the conversation with the behavior of a jackass, not I. </p>
<blockquote><p>In my experience, the people that start asking for other people to be banned (this would be you) are the weakest debaters.</p></blockquote>
<p>My comments here on Gay Patriot can speak for my debating skills. As for your attempting to criticize another person&#8217;s powers of debate, that is surely a pot calling a kettle black: You have done nothing here but throw stones at others. You have certainly made no attempt to debate anything.</p>
<p>As for calling for a ban another commenter, I have never done so before on any web log. I was moved to do so for the first time here by your stupid and despicable behavior.</p>
<p>As Dan said above, you prefer to insult those whose political thinking you don&#8217;t like than to offer anything approaching a useful criticism. It&#8217;s Bruce&#8217;s decision whether or not you can continue with such behavior, not mine. (Perhaps Bruce likes having you around as an example of leftist idiocy.) </p>
<p>For the sake of those who have to deal with you face-to-face, I only hope you aren&#8217;t this stupid and nasty in person.</p>
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		<title>By: GayPatriotWest</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayPatriotWest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 05:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Levi, while claiming that those who would have you banned &quot;prefer to not debate at all,&quot; yet have not yet to back up the charge you leveled against us, even thought you have been asked to do so, multiple times.

If you want to debate, back up your points with facts.  And actually adress the point of the post instead of smearing conservatives.  Once again, like all too many on the left, you&#039;d rather insult than debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Levi, while claiming that those who would have you banned &#8220;prefer to not debate at all,&#8221; yet have not yet to back up the charge you leveled against us, even thought you have been asked to do so, multiple times.</p>
<p>If you want to debate, back up your points with facts.  And actually adress the point of the post instead of smearing conservatives.  Once again, like all too many on the left, you&#8217;d rather insult than debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 05:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus Christ!  What is that awful racket?!  It sounds like a swarm of killer bees attacking a chain saw inside a phone booth filled with 25 cats.  Does anyone else hear that?  Hopefully it will go away soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus Christ!  What is that awful racket?!  It sounds like a swarm of killer bees attacking a chain saw inside a phone booth filled with 25 cats.  Does anyone else hear that?  Hopefully it will go away soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Levi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Levi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 22:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Sean A (#22),

I would be inclined to agree with you if only experience hadn’t taught me that most leftists aren’t as tolerant as Bruce is.

In my comment at left-wing blogs, I have been placed on permanent moderation on one for daring to raise questions they don’t want asked, and have seen the webmaster of another tell everyone to ignore me (much as you recommend with Levi) — also for daring to ask questions he didn’t like.

Furthermore, leftists have called me things like racist and fascist. (Ironic, I know.) I am simply no longer in any mode to tolerate leftist bullshit of the sort that Levi dished out here.

If Levi wants to be a complete asshole let him do it on his own site.&lt;/i&gt;

Daring to raise questions they don&#039;t want asked.... yeah right. In my experience, the people that start asking for other people to be banned (this would be you) are the weakest debaters. So weak, in fact, that they  prefer to not debate at all, and instead focus on driving out intruders so they can stand among their crowd nodding in agreement with what everyone else is saying. Have fun with that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Sean A (#22),</p>
<p>I would be inclined to agree with you if only experience hadn’t taught me that most leftists aren’t as tolerant as Bruce is.</p>
<p>In my comment at left-wing blogs, I have been placed on permanent moderation on one for daring to raise questions they don’t want asked, and have seen the webmaster of another tell everyone to ignore me (much as you recommend with Levi) — also for daring to ask questions he didn’t like.</p>
<p>Furthermore, leftists have called me things like racist and fascist. (Ironic, I know.) I am simply no longer in any mode to tolerate leftist bullshit of the sort that Levi dished out here.</p>
<p>If Levi wants to be a complete asshole let him do it on his own site.</i></p>
<p>Daring to raise questions they don&#8217;t want asked&#8230;. yeah right. In my experience, the people that start asking for other people to be banned (this would be you) are the weakest debaters. So weak, in fact, that they  prefer to not debate at all, and instead focus on driving out intruders so they can stand among their crowd nodding in agreement with what everyone else is saying. Have fun with that!</p>
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		<title>By: Classical Liberal Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Classical Liberal Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 20:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean A (#22),

I would be inclined to agree with you if only experience hadn&#039;t taught me that most leftists aren&#039;t as tolerant as Bruce is.

In my comment at left-wing blogs, I have been placed on permanent moderation on one for daring to raise questions they don&#039;t want asked, and have seen the webmaster of another tell everyone to ignore me (much as you recommend with Levi) -- also for daring to ask questions he didn&#039;t like.

Furthermore, leftists have called me things like racist and fascist. (Ironic, I know.) I am simply no longer in any mode to tolerate leftist bullshit of the sort that Levi dished out here. 

If Levi wants to be a complete asshole let him do it on his own site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean A (#22),</p>
<p>I would be inclined to agree with you if only experience hadn&#8217;t taught me that most leftists aren&#8217;t as tolerant as Bruce is.</p>
<p>In my comment at left-wing blogs, I have been placed on permanent moderation on one for daring to raise questions they don&#8217;t want asked, and have seen the webmaster of another tell everyone to ignore me (much as you recommend with Levi) &#8212; also for daring to ask questions he didn&#8217;t like.</p>
<p>Furthermore, leftists have called me things like racist and fascist. (Ironic, I know.) I am simply no longer in any mode to tolerate leftist bullshit of the sort that Levi dished out here. </p>
<p>If Levi wants to be a complete asshole let him do it on his own site.</p>
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		<title>By: Levi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Levi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 20:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I fear something not-so-good is going on in Levi’s life. Something’s different. Usually, he can go for days, volleying rapid-fire Leftist talking points and bigoted epithets against religion across the net like an Energizer bunny. Of course, every one of his points are demonstrably untrue, illogical, intellectually dishonest, hypocritical, or fascist (or a combination thereof), but at least there was a back and forth. But lately, something is different. Instead of his usual changing the subject, look-over-there tactics he has been sticking with indefensible positions without abandoning them, even when facing an inescapable (and pathetic) checkmate. Also, in general, Levi has literally and consistently been arguing his way into a corner in two comments or less. In other words, he has been noticeably inartful in his efforts to be a slippery, aggressive, slimeball which is really the only reason to argue with liberals in the first place (to enjoy the fun of making it clear to them what hopeless slimeballs they truly are). So, before, arguing with Levi was only a pointless waste of time. Now, it’s a pointless waste of time, and also a colossal bore.&lt;/i&gt;

lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I fear something not-so-good is going on in Levi’s life. Something’s different. Usually, he can go for days, volleying rapid-fire Leftist talking points and bigoted epithets against religion across the net like an Energizer bunny. Of course, every one of his points are demonstrably untrue, illogical, intellectually dishonest, hypocritical, or fascist (or a combination thereof), but at least there was a back and forth. But lately, something is different. Instead of his usual changing the subject, look-over-there tactics he has been sticking with indefensible positions without abandoning them, even when facing an inescapable (and pathetic) checkmate. Also, in general, Levi has literally and consistently been arguing his way into a corner in two comments or less. In other words, he has been noticeably inartful in his efforts to be a slippery, aggressive, slimeball which is really the only reason to argue with liberals in the first place (to enjoy the fun of making it clear to them what hopeless slimeballs they truly are). So, before, arguing with Levi was only a pointless waste of time. Now, it’s a pointless waste of time, and also a colossal bore.</i></p>
<p>lol</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 16:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Not only due I not see that at all but are you sure we need (conservatives of various strips) need to be listening to Athena instead of Tyr these days?&lt;/i&gt;

Athena didn&#039;t wear an aegis and helmet and carry a spear for accessory purposes. :) Remember, Ares was the god of war, but Athena was the goddess of military prowess and strategy. We conservatives would do well to be playing the role of Odysseus or Theseus today instead of Achilles or Heracles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Not only due I not see that at all but are you sure we need (conservatives of various strips) need to be listening to Athena instead of Tyr these days?</i></p>
<p>Athena didn&#8217;t wear an aegis and helmet and carry a spear for accessory purposes. <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Remember, Ares was the god of war, but Athena was the goddess of military prowess and strategy. We conservatives would do well to be playing the role of Odysseus or Theseus today instead of Achilles or Heracles.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 02:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#21:  I disagree that Levi should be banned.   Instead, we should all just ignore him like one of those cheap, after-market, twitchy car alarms that go off spontaneously in the middle of the night.  Yes, you hear it, yes, it&#039;s annoying as hell, but you certainly don&#039;t respond to it by calling the cops as though there is an actual car theft in progress.  Eventually, it silences and that horrible, ugly IROC-Z sputters away.

I fear something not-so-good is going on in Levi&#039;s life.  Something&#039;s different.  Usually, he can go for days, volleying rapid-fire Leftist talking points and bigoted epithets against religion across the net like an Energizer bunny.  Of course, every one of his points are demonstrably untrue, illogical, intellectually dishonest, hypocritical, or fascist (or a combination thereof), but at least there was a back and forth.  But lately, something is different.  Instead of his usual changing the subject, look-over-there tactics he has been sticking with indefensible positions without abandoning them, even when facing an inescapable (and pathetic) checkmate.  Also, in general, Levi has literally and consistently been arguing his way into a corner in two comments or less.  In other words, he has been noticeably inartful in his efforts to be a slippery, aggressive, slimeball which is really the only reason to argue with liberals in the first place (to enjoy the fun of making it clear to them what hopeless slimeballs they truly are).  So, before, arguing with Levi was only a pointless waste of time.  Now, it&#039;s a pointless waste of time, and also a colossal bore.

So, I say it&#039;s time for everyone to pretend he just doesn&#039;t exist.  If he can&#039;t deal with that, all he has to do is concede that his &quot;the GOP thinks W = Reagan&quot; bs was, well, complete bs.  OR, produce legitimate evidence that its NOT bs.  Without one or the other, I say he&#039;s dead to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#21:  I disagree that Levi should be banned.   Instead, we should all just ignore him like one of those cheap, after-market, twitchy car alarms that go off spontaneously in the middle of the night.  Yes, you hear it, yes, it&#8217;s annoying as hell, but you certainly don&#8217;t respond to it by calling the cops as though there is an actual car theft in progress.  Eventually, it silences and that horrible, ugly IROC-Z sputters away.</p>
<p>I fear something not-so-good is going on in Levi&#8217;s life.  Something&#8217;s different.  Usually, he can go for days, volleying rapid-fire Leftist talking points and bigoted epithets against religion across the net like an Energizer bunny.  Of course, every one of his points are demonstrably untrue, illogical, intellectually dishonest, hypocritical, or fascist (or a combination thereof), but at least there was a back and forth.  But lately, something is different.  Instead of his usual changing the subject, look-over-there tactics he has been sticking with indefensible positions without abandoning them, even when facing an inescapable (and pathetic) checkmate.  Also, in general, Levi has literally and consistently been arguing his way into a corner in two comments or less.  In other words, he has been noticeably inartful in his efforts to be a slippery, aggressive, slimeball which is really the only reason to argue with liberals in the first place (to enjoy the fun of making it clear to them what hopeless slimeballs they truly are).  So, before, arguing with Levi was only a pointless waste of time.  Now, it&#8217;s a pointless waste of time, and also a colossal bore.</p>
<p>So, I say it&#8217;s time for everyone to pretend he just doesn&#8217;t exist.  If he can&#8217;t deal with that, all he has to do is concede that his &#8220;the GOP thinks W = Reagan&#8221; bs was, well, complete bs.  OR, produce legitimate evidence that its NOT bs.  Without one or the other, I say he&#8217;s dead to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Classical Liberal Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Classical Liberal Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 01:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Thanks for the review, I guess?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You are most welcome, Levi.

Pity you didn&#039;t heed my advice. To wit:

&lt;blockquote&gt;What you’d call an ‘obsession,’ I would call a convenient tool to dismiss all Republican claims to intelligence or competence. ... Just get used to it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Still being a bastard. But then the leopard doesn&#039;t change his spots, does he?

It is odd that a leftist like yourself wants to go after a president who prevented terrorists attacks on the US for more than 7 years after Sept 11, 2001 on charges of stupidity and incompetence; It was the Left, after all, that gave us Bill Clinton, the president who let Al Qaeda fester and grow, and his attorney general, Janet Reno, the mastermind of Ruby Ridge and Waco. But if you want to hang yourself on that rope go right ahead.

&lt;blockquote&gt;One of the consequences of Bush getting elected will be years and years (maybe decades and decades) of liberals [sic] bringing him up to mock or otherwise diminish conservatives.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Fair enough. Many conservatives will doubtless want to mock themselves for tolerating Bush&#039;s conservatism-in-name-only. Lefties like yourself, however, will have to accept being mocked over Oval Office adulterer and perjurer-in-chief Bill Clinton, didn&#039;t-get-what-enhanced-interrogation-techniques-were-for Nancy Pelosi, and insecure, perpetually campaigning, the rest-of-the-world-before-my-own-country Barack Obama. Elections have consequences, after all. ;)

I started, Levi, by asking you if you could provide &quot;any good reasons why Bruce shouldn’t ban you.&quot; You have failed to do so, just as you have failed to support your assertions about Republicans (or conservatives, or Gay Patriot readers) crowing about G.W. Bush as the new Ronald Reagan.

So I&#039;d say you really should be banned (yes, Bruce, that&#039;s a hint).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Thanks for the review, I guess?</p></blockquote>
<p>You are most welcome, Levi.</p>
<p>Pity you didn&#8217;t heed my advice. To wit:</p>
<blockquote><p>What you’d call an ‘obsession,’ I would call a convenient tool to dismiss all Republican claims to intelligence or competence. &#8230; Just get used to it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Still being a bastard. But then the leopard doesn&#8217;t change his spots, does he?</p>
<p>It is odd that a leftist like yourself wants to go after a president who prevented terrorists attacks on the US for more than 7 years after Sept 11, 2001 on charges of stupidity and incompetence; It was the Left, after all, that gave us Bill Clinton, the president who let Al Qaeda fester and grow, and his attorney general, Janet Reno, the mastermind of Ruby Ridge and Waco. But if you want to hang yourself on that rope go right ahead.</p>
<blockquote><p>One of the consequences of Bush getting elected will be years and years (maybe decades and decades) of liberals [sic] bringing him up to mock or otherwise diminish conservatives.</p></blockquote>
<p>Fair enough. Many conservatives will doubtless want to mock themselves for tolerating Bush&#8217;s conservatism-in-name-only. Lefties like yourself, however, will have to accept being mocked over Oval Office adulterer and perjurer-in-chief Bill Clinton, didn&#8217;t-get-what-enhanced-interrogation-techniques-were-for Nancy Pelosi, and insecure, perpetually campaigning, the rest-of-the-world-before-my-own-country Barack Obama. Elections have consequences, after all. <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I started, Levi, by asking you if you could provide &#8220;any good reasons why Bruce shouldn’t ban you.&#8221; You have failed to do so, just as you have failed to support your assertions about Republicans (or conservatives, or Gay Patriot readers) crowing about G.W. Bush as the new Ronald Reagan.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;d say you really should be banned (yes, Bruce, that&#8217;s a hint).</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 21:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, GPW, this is kind of funny to watch.

Levi and his fellow Obama Party members are screaming about Bush for one simple reason -- the lies they told on the campaign trail are unraveling, and people are getting upset over the fact that Obama believes in unilaterally taking private property, completely ignoring bankruptcy laws, and imposing crushing new taxes even as he fills his Cabinet with people who refuse to pay taxes.

What they in their ignorance and blind rage don&#039;t realize, though, is that the more they claim that everything that Bush did was wrong, every policy Bush followed was wrong, etc. -- the more foolish they look with Obama&#039;s adoption of Bush-administration policies on Guantanamo, extraordinary rendition, enhanced interrogation, military tribunals, DADT, and so forth. Their hypocrisy becomes blatantly obvious as they praise and worship their Obamamessiah for doing exactly that which they revile Bush for doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, GPW, this is kind of funny to watch.</p>
<p>Levi and his fellow Obama Party members are screaming about Bush for one simple reason &#8212; the lies they told on the campaign trail are unraveling, and people are getting upset over the fact that Obama believes in unilaterally taking private property, completely ignoring bankruptcy laws, and imposing crushing new taxes even as he fills his Cabinet with people who refuse to pay taxes.</p>
<p>What they in their ignorance and blind rage don&#8217;t realize, though, is that the more they claim that everything that Bush did was wrong, every policy Bush followed was wrong, etc. &#8212; the more foolish they look with Obama&#8217;s adoption of Bush-administration policies on Guantanamo, extraordinary rendition, enhanced interrogation, military tribunals, DADT, and so forth. Their hypocrisy becomes blatantly obvious as they praise and worship their Obamamessiah for doing exactly that which they revile Bush for doing.</p>
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		<title>By: GayPatriotWest</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/05/22/athenas-sage-advice-to-the-gopapply-reaganesque-ideas-to-contemporary-concerns/comment-page-1/#comment-427522</link>
		<dc:creator>GayPatriotWest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 16:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Levi, you&#039;ve been asked to back up a charge you leveled against us and in response all you do is attack Bush.

First, let me assure you that by the end of the summer, most people will have forgotten Bush and Democrats won&#039;t be able to hang him around Republicans&#039; neck.

Second, how can we believe anything you say when you won&#039;t respond to repeated requests to back up an allegation you made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Levi, you&#8217;ve been asked to back up a charge you leveled against us and in response all you do is attack Bush.</p>
<p>First, let me assure you that by the end of the summer, most people will have forgotten Bush and Democrats won&#8217;t be able to hang him around Republicans&#8217; neck.</p>
<p>Second, how can we believe anything you say when you won&#8217;t respond to repeated requests to back up an allegation you made.</p>
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		<title>By: Levi</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/05/22/athenas-sage-advice-to-the-gopapply-reaganesque-ideas-to-contemporary-concerns/comment-page-1/#comment-427480</link>
		<dc:creator>Levi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 15:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Levi, your obsession with Bush is amusing.&lt;/i&gt;

What you&#039;d call an &#039;obsession,&#039; I would call a convenient tool to dismiss all Republican claims to intelligence or competence. Elections have consequences. One of the consequences of Bush getting elected will be years and years (maybe decades and decades) of liberals bringing him up to mock or otherwise diminish conservatives. Just get used to it. You guys forced this disaster upon the world, and you&#039;re going to be hearing about it for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Levi, your obsession with Bush is amusing.</i></p>
<p>What you&#8217;d call an &#8216;obsession,&#8217; I would call a convenient tool to dismiss all Republican claims to intelligence or competence. Elections have consequences. One of the consequences of Bush getting elected will be years and years (maybe decades and decades) of liberals bringing him up to mock or otherwise diminish conservatives. Just get used to it. You guys forced this disaster upon the world, and you&#8217;re going to be hearing about it for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Levi</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/05/22/athenas-sage-advice-to-the-gopapply-reaganesque-ideas-to-contemporary-concerns/comment-page-1/#comment-427476</link>
		<dc:creator>Levi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 15:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Twice you have been asked, once by heliotrope and once by GPW, to back up your assertion that either Republicans in general, or readers of the site, spent years trumpeting G.W. Bush as the new Reagan. Your only response has been nastiness: I understand why you’re pretending it didn’t; You’re getting awfully pathetic … As for that joke of a point…

You may enjoy being an SOB, but it doesn’t add to conversation here, nor does it help you win friends and influence people. Or, to put it in terms matching the tone of your comments, if you can’t stop talking out of your rear end, then just shut the fuck up.&lt;/i&gt;

Thanks for the review, I guess?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Twice you have been asked, once by heliotrope and once by GPW, to back up your assertion that either Republicans in general, or readers of the site, spent years trumpeting G.W. Bush as the new Reagan. Your only response has been nastiness: I understand why you’re pretending it didn’t; You’re getting awfully pathetic … As for that joke of a point…</p>
<p>You may enjoy being an SOB, but it doesn’t add to conversation here, nor does it help you win friends and influence people. Or, to put it in terms matching the tone of your comments, if you can’t stop talking out of your rear end, then just shut the fuck up.</i></p>
<p>Thanks for the review, I guess?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 03:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ack! due = do</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ack! due = do</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/05/22/athenas-sage-advice-to-the-gopapply-reaganesque-ideas-to-contemporary-concerns/comment-page-1/#comment-427003</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 03:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I want to go back to this Peggy as Athena? Not only due I not see that at all but are you sure we need (conservatives of various strips) need to be listening to Athena instead of Tyr these days?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I want to go back to this Peggy as Athena? Not only due I not see that at all but are you sure we need (conservatives of various strips) need to be listening to Athena instead of Tyr these days?</p>
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		<title>By: Leah</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/05/22/athenas-sage-advice-to-the-gopapply-reaganesque-ideas-to-contemporary-concerns/comment-page-1/#comment-426906</link>
		<dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 00:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;You guys spent yeas insisting that George Bush was the next Reagan, do you realize this?&lt;/blockquote&gt;could you please state exactly when and where either Dan or any of us said that???
Before W was elected many of us were wary of his &#039;compassionate conservatism&#039;. Until 9/11 we were glad he and not Gore was president, but I don&#039;t recall anyone calling him Reaganesque.

After 9/11 we were all the more grateful he was our leader, most of us felt he handled the war on terror well. But very quickly there was disillusionment with his growing government - even if it was supposedly for homeland security.

That is going a long way to saying he was Reaganesque. Levi, I think you have such a strong need to attack and demean, you simply throw things out there that were never said simply because for some perverse reason it makes you feel good to insult people who disagree with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite=""><p>You guys spent yeas insisting that George Bush was the next Reagan, do you realize this?</p></blockquote>
<p>could you please state exactly when and where either Dan or any of us said that???<br />
Before W was elected many of us were wary of his &#8216;compassionate conservatism&#8217;. Until 9/11 we were glad he and not Gore was president, but I don&#8217;t recall anyone calling him Reaganesque.</p>
<p>After 9/11 we were all the more grateful he was our leader, most of us felt he handled the war on terror well. But very quickly there was disillusionment with his growing government &#8211; even if it was supposedly for homeland security.</p>
<p>That is going a long way to saying he was Reaganesque. Levi, I think you have such a strong need to attack and demean, you simply throw things out there that were never said simply because for some perverse reason it makes you feel good to insult people who disagree with you.</p>
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		<title>By: GayPatriotWest</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/05/22/athenas-sage-advice-to-the-gopapply-reaganesque-ideas-to-contemporary-concerns/comment-page-1/#comment-426724</link>
		<dc:creator>GayPatriotWest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 20:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Levi, your obsession with Bush is amusing.  Reminds me of a guy whose sexual advances I repeatedly rejected.  Then, when he returned to his home (in a different town from where we met), if ever he saw me online, he would message me and insult me.

Now, please, you&#039;ve told me that we spent years insisting W was the next Reagan, let me repeat my request that you provide the evidence.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Levi, your obsession with Bush is amusing.  Reminds me of a guy whose sexual advances I repeatedly rejected.  Then, when he returned to his home (in a different town from where we met), if ever he saw me online, he would message me and insult me.</p>
<p>Now, please, you&#8217;ve told me that we spent years insisting W was the next Reagan, let me repeat my request that you provide the evidence.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: heliotrope</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/05/22/athenas-sage-advice-to-the-gopapply-reaganesque-ideas-to-contemporary-concerns/comment-page-1/#comment-426706</link>
		<dc:creator>heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 19:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
It happened, though I understand why you’re pretending it didn’t. &lt;/blockquote&gt;Put your money where your mouth is. 

One citation, two citation, three citation, four, 
five citation, six citation, seven citation more. 
Icha bacha, soda cracker, 
Icha bacha boo. 
Icha bacha, soda cracker, out goes Y-O-U! 

Heck, forget the seven citations, you can&#039;t cite one. Here, have a soda cracker. Now get back up on your perch squawk some more. 

Oh, and how do you pretend something that didn&#039;t happen didn&#039;t happen? Please make me look like a fool. I am so certain and arrogant that I demand you cut me down to size.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
It happened, though I understand why you’re pretending it didn’t. </p></blockquote>
<p>Put your money where your mouth is. </p>
<p>One citation, two citation, three citation, four,<br />
five citation, six citation, seven citation more.<br />
Icha bacha, soda cracker,<br />
Icha bacha boo.<br />
Icha bacha, soda cracker, out goes Y-O-U! </p>
<p>Heck, forget the seven citations, you can&#8217;t cite one. Here, have a soda cracker. Now get back up on your perch squawk some more. </p>
<p>Oh, and how do you pretend something that didn&#8217;t happen didn&#8217;t happen? Please make me look like a fool. I am so certain and arrogant that I demand you cut me down to size.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/05/22/athenas-sage-advice-to-the-gopapply-reaganesque-ideas-to-contemporary-concerns/comment-page-1/#comment-426704</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 19:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It happened, though I understand why you’re pretending it didn’t.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So just because Levi said so. What a fraud.

Douchebag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It happened, though I understand why you’re pretending it didn’t.</p></blockquote>
<p>So just because Levi said so. What a fraud.</p>
<p>Douchebag.</p>
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