FINALLY…THE $64,000 QUESTION WAS ASKED…

YESTERDAY ON “ABC-TV” DURING THE “NETWORK SPECIAL ON HEALTH CARE”…. OBAMA WAS ASKED:

“MR. PRESIDENT WILL YOU AND YOUR FAMILY GIVE UP YOUR CURRENT HEALTH CARE PROGRAM AND JOIN THE NEW ‘UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE PROGRAM’ THAT THE REST OF US WILL BE ON ????”….. (BET YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER)…

THERE WAS A STONEY SILENCE AS OBAMA IGNORED THE QUESTION AND CHOSE NOT TO ANSWER IT !!!…IN ADDITION, A NUMBER OF SENATORS WERE ASKED T HE SAME QUESTION AND THERE RESPONSE WAS…”WE WILL THINK ABOUT IT.”

AND THEY DID!!!

IT WAS ANNOUNCED TODAY ON THE NEWS THAT THE “KENNEDY HEALTH CARE BILL” WAS WRITTEN INTO THE NEW HEALTH CARE REFORM INITIATIVE ENSURING THAT THAT CONGRESS WILL BE 100% EXEMPT !

SO, THIS GREAT NEW HEALTH CARE PLAN THAT IS GOOD FOR YOU AND ME… IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR OBAMA, HIS FAMILY OR CONGRESS…??

WE (THE AMERICAN PUBLIC) NEED TO STOP THIS PROPOSED DEBACLE ASAP !!!!… THIS IS TOTALLY WRONG !!!!!

PERSONALLY, WE SHOULD ONLY ACCEPT A UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE OVERHAUL THAT EXTENDS TO EVERYONE… NOT JUST US LOWLY CITIZENS…. WHILE THE WASHINGTON “ELITE” KEEP RIGHT ON WITH THEIR GOLD-PLATED HEALTH CARE COVERAGES.

IF YOU AGREE PLEASE PASS THIS O N …IF NOT PLAN TO SUFFER WITH THE OBAMA HEALTH CARE PLAN … WHILE OUR SELF-SERVING POLITICIANS MAKE SURE THAT THEY TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES AT OUR EXPENSE., OF COURSE!

Indeed. In order to assert that “general welfare” means government-provided health care, welfare checks, and so on requires a gross misreading of the language of the Constitution. I would caution Ashpenaz that before he enthusiastically tout is theocratic welfare state that he pay attention to the role of Catholic theologians in the early intellectual history of fascism. (And I suppose the only thing worse than a do-everything, be-everywhere government would be a do-everything be-everywhere church.)

Now kids: what do we call people who worship State power? (F-a-s-c…..)

Does anyone else find this darkly funny? I mean Cuba and the USSR both had nationalized healthcare and would give free mental health services to both political opponents and homosexuals, to cure them of their deviant thoughts.

Also, as I’ve said elsewhere. “I don’t suffer ADD, I enjoy every minute of it.”

We pay higher gas prices because of their controls over the oil industry and then they distract you claiming it’s the oil companies’ fault with no evidence. They destroyed the housing market, yet claim it was all Bush’s fault and they provide no evidence. They destroyed the auto industry, blame Bush, no evidence. We pay higher food prices thanks to liberals. Our food is being channeled into a worthless, more pollutant fuel because a bunch of idiots believe it will save the planet…

Now now, TGC. Ash says he never dealt with anything as dreamily efficient as the all-powerful State. “Every part of my financial life which is run by the government works wonderfully and without hassle.” That should settle it! Lebensraum oops, I mean Hopenchange – for all! /sarc

Since you’re willing to pay your share, I need a new truck. Ready to go to the dealership?

think they’re planning to include mental health services in the health care program, so I hope you get the care you need. I’m more than happy to pay my share of the cost.

You can take your “hope” and shove it sideways. Hope and change has brought us nothing but massive debt, massive unemployment and a blithering idiot who can’t say two words without an “uhhhh” in between running around telling us how much we suck.

You’ve fallen for demagoguic propaganda BS. The left routinely invents enemies that we all should fear, claiming they’re the only ones who can fix it. The problem is that we get ass raped instead. For example:

We pay higher gas prices because of their controls over the oil industry and then they distract you claiming it’s the oil companies’ fault with no evidence. They destroyed the housing market, yet claim it was all Bush’s fault and they provide no evidence. They destroyed the auto industry, blame Bush, no evidence. We pay higher food prices thanks to liberals. Our food is being channeled into a worthless, more pollutant fuel because a bunch of idiots believe it will save the planet. Meanwhile millions do without the food because they can’t afford it and billions more pay higher prices.

And then there’s health care. They scare you with constant harangues about 47 million people without insurance. What they WILL NOT tell you is that the majority of those don’t have it because they don’t want it. 9.5 million are not US citizens. 17 million live in households making $50K+/year. 18 million are between the ages of 18-34 and choose not to buy it because they’re in good health and want to spend that money elsewhere. They CHOOSE to spend their money HOW THEY WANT TO.

The problem that I see is that either you’re woefully ignorant of reality or you’re one of the lying bastards pushing this BS on us. Either way, you don’t want to see reality and you’ll use ZERO evidence to support your claims.

One more thing, DON’T YOU DARE insult us by insisting that your a Conservative while pushing for more government control over the people. And don’t think you can get away with hoping some less informed soul reading your lines is confused with the “Socialist health care IS Conservative” bullshit.

A lot of people go to Mexico for cheaper health care. Also, ask anybody who has come from another country whether they would rather have the health care they left. They might like the freedom here, but I bet they’re unhappy with not having free public health care.

So much illogic, concentrated in 3 sentences. Where to begin? I don’t have all night, so I’ll only touch on two possible points.

a) Anyone who is going to Mexico (and I bet you’re greatly exaggerating the situation, Ash, since you exaggerate so much) is exercising their FREE CHOICE, as ADULT HUMAN BEINGS, to PAY PRIVATELY for health care. Three concepts, Ash, that you apparently oppose.

b) What is this “free” health care you speak of? Do you really not understand, Ash, that no health care – or any other good or service – is ever free? Or else I invite you to pick it off the bush where you think it grows.

My point is this: you can be a conservative and back universal health care.

I will leave the blog’s conservatives to answer that. My point is this: Proposing to exploit your fellow human beings by government force as Obama does, Ash, and now you, is *morally* *wrong*.

Conservative is not about who is the most greedy and selfish.

…except when you’re Ash, I guess, who calls it “conservative” when he greedily and selfishly proposes the destruction of other human beings’ pocketbooks and lives for him to get better medical. Again, I will let the blog’s conservatives say whether that is really conservative or not.

Conservatives can willingly pay taxes for programs which support the common good.

…said Obama and Andrew Sullivan. Ash, you really ought to think seriously about joining them.

Also, ask anybody who has come from another country whether they would rather have the health care they left.

My partner grew up in Nuevo Laredo Mexico. He’d rather have ours. Many people in Nuevo Laredo come across the border to Texas to get treated because they know it’s a damn sight better than Mexico’s. A friend of mine in Laredo went to Nuevo Laredo to get some dental work done to save money, even though she’s a postal worker. I forget what she had done, but she wound up in worse shape and an infection. She also refused friend’s suggestions to go to Nuevo Laredo for her breast reduction surgery.

Asked and answered.

My point is this: you can be a conservative and back universal health care. Conservative is not about who is the most greedy and selfish. Conservatives can willingly pay taxes for programs which support the common good.

No, a person willing to back a Socialist program resulting in millions unemployed and costs of trillions of dollars are not Conservative. A Conservative would not support abrogating freedom and handing over control of their lives to the State. A Conservative would not support government rationed death, waiting a year or more for surgery or even to see the doctor. I’d ask what’s conservative about handing over your freedom, but you don’t answer questions because you arrogantly believe you don’t have to.

And yes, that is selfish. You keep refusing to answer questions or actually addressing points made. Rather, you say over and over “I want “free” health care and F*CK everybody else!”. You give us the finger with each comment.

If we get government rationed death, you can say goodbye to the country you grew up in and hello to going to dark, back alleys for quality health care.

My point is this: you can be a conservative and back universal health care. Conservative is not about who is the most greedy and selfish. Conservatives can willingly pay taxes for programs which support the common good.

Oh, and Adam saying he’s gay is like me saying I’m fat.

So move there.

That’s the entertaining part, Ash; you whine and moan about not having free healthcare, but you won’t actually get off your butt and move to a place that has it.

What that means is simple; you value other things in the United States more than free healthcare. Why is that? Why, if free healthcare makes life perfect, hasn’t it done so for Canada?

For every sad story about Canada, there are hundreds more about people in the US not getting the care they need because the insurance company wouldn’t pay for it.

I call bullsh*t. (for what seems like the fiftieth time)

let Americans buy into the Canadian system. How many Americans do you think would pay that small tax and commute back and forth just to get health care they can afford?

Again I call bullsh*t. If Americans had to pay cost: None would. That’s the point. Canada’s system is as expensive as any in the world – and what do you get for it? Death while you wait in line. Ash, you haven’t addressed the point that *the Canadian Supreme Court called Canada’s system – specifically, Canada’s lack of private health care – a human rights violation*.

For every sad story about Canada, there are hundreds more about people in the US not getting the care they need because the insurance company wouldn’t pay for it. I would SO go to Canada for healthcare if I could buy into their system. Sign me up! Maybe that’s the solution–let Americans buy into the Canadian system. How many Americans do you think would pay that small tax and commute back and forth just to get health care they can afford? Lots and lots.

P.S. On another topic, still waiting for a thread–way to go, Adam!