Comments on: Only Crackpots Who Kill Are Murderers:Bloggers may have similar Ideas, but if they don’t advocate violence, well, they’re just crackpots

By: CR

CR — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:01:35 +0000

“…let’s not make a political point out of one man’s irrational behavior.”

I think that’s really the rub. To try to associate von Brunn with any major political ideology is really disingenuous. He is most certainly not representative of mainstream Democrats , Republicans or even libertarians.

That said, there are radical left and radical right groups. It’s largely a matter of semantics because, whatever their ideology, they’re ultimately murderers and/or terrorists. As Livewire noted, the Weather Underground is an example of a “radical left” group (see also http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/left.pdf — note, reports have been prepared about the left, too!). On the “radical right” side are the KKK, neo-nazis and others. It is absurd to think that any of these are somehow representative of either the mainstream left or right. Don’t get hung up on the word that follows the “radical” label, because the radical (or “extremist”) part is what matters.

If someone seriously says von Brunn is representative of the American Right, then call them out on it. (I haven’t seen it, but I haven’t been following this story much either.) But if someone just says he was a right-wing extremist and that offends you, I think perhaps you’re being overly sensitive.

By: Lyssa, Lovely Redhead

Lyssa, Lovely Redhead — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 02:58:20 +0000

At Ann Althouse’s site the other day, someone coined a term that I would like to see catch on: “six o’clockers.” In that, most of these crazy sorts share elements of the most radical of both side, and are nothing like the mainstream of either, so if 3 o’clock represents the right, and 9 o’clock the left, these sorts meet somewhere opposite but also between both, at six.

By: eaglewingz08

eaglewingz08 — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 00:24:44 +0000

Yes, Rev Wright never called for killing Jews himself, just supporting Hamass and Hezbollah,(and Obama?) to do his dirty work.

By: Ignatius

Ignatius — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:41:08 +0000

Take a kook, add a dash of qualifiers and a dollop of outrage, allow to bake for several news cycles and Voila! You have a conservative.

“He’s anti-immigrant.”

He’s a kook.

“He’s anti-immigrant.”

He’s a kook.

“He’s against illegal immigration.”

He’s a kook.

“He’s against immigration.”

He’s a conservative.

By: The Livewire

The Livewire — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:25:45 +0000

Let’s play ‘disect the bob’

the man doesn’t represent any mainstream conservative ideology or liberal ideology…but there’s no question he’s radical ~~right, not radical~~ left.

he’s an anti-government,
Weather underground
anti-immigrant,
National Socialist.
cultural purist
Fred Phelps and La Rasa
and white supremacist.
KKK, Robert Byrd, Affirmitive Action “The soft bigotry of low expectations.”
this isn’t difficult.

No, it’s no more difficult than using captials. Oh, wait…

By: bob (aka boob)

bob (aka boob) — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:58:50 +0000

also, this guy was clearly screwed up in the head, and i don’t think we should be blaming any bloggers or even talk show hosts for his actions. however, here’s a good article related to the media:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-rowe/the-holocaust-museum-shoo_b_214133.html

By: bob (aka boob)

bob (aka boob) — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:53:15 +0000

the man doesn’t represent any mainstream conservative ideology or liberal ideology…but there’s no question he’s radical right, not radical left. he’s an anti-government, anti-immigrant, cultural purist and white supremacist. this isn’t difficult.

By: Alan

Alan — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:25:13 +0000

The killer is an idiot, who just so happens to hate neocons and Bill O’Reilly. And christians, jews, corporations, and stated that “SOCIALISM, represents the future of the West”

I don’t know about the rest of you, but my gay conservative self is not feeling like a kindred spirit with this man.

For what it’s worth.

By: thestraightaussie

thestraightaussie — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:04:33 +0000

Without referencing any left wing blogs, if you look at the ideology of the murderer, he was not right wing, but in fact closer to left wing ideology.

The big fallacy happens to be that Nazism is regarded as extreme right wing when in fact it is extreme left wing, just the other side of the communist coin.

The man believed in Western National Socialism (whatever that means). Socialism is left wing ideology, with Communism or Marxism being its most extreme form.

Hitler was on the right of Lenin, but they actually believed in the same ideology – totalitarianism.