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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;* N Korea situation deteriorating….talks fall apart. N Korea detonates a nuclear blast and fires off 7 missles.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Have you noticed that they only do that when Chairman Obama or Granny Botox are out of the country?

Seems like the way to keep the world safe is to keep them at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>* N Korea situation deteriorating….talks fall apart. N Korea detonates a nuclear blast and fires off 7 missles.</p></blockquote>
<p>Have you noticed that they only do that when Chairman Obama or Granny Botox are out of the country?</p>
<p>Seems like the way to keep the world safe is to keep them at home.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene in Pennsylvania</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene in Pennsylvania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 03:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I point out that Mr Obama was supposed to change our foreign policy, apologize to everyone, and get all the nations to help us solve difficult problems. So how&#039;s that working out for him? 
* No new military fighting forces from NATO to help in Afganistan.
* No new EU or UN help to save Darfur.
* N Korea situation deteriorating....talks fall apart. N Korea detonates a nuclear blast and fires off 7 missles. 
* BHO is afraid to &quot;meddle&quot; while Iranian thugs kill protesters.
*no new movement in the mid east. Israel close to acting unilaterially. 

Obama kills a fly, asks what time is dinner. Michelle walks the dog, and brings in some freshly picked beefsteak tomatoes.  ummm
160 days  A+    Mr President!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I point out that Mr Obama was supposed to change our foreign policy, apologize to everyone, and get all the nations to help us solve difficult problems. So how&#8217;s that working out for him?<br />
* No new military fighting forces from NATO to help in Afganistan.<br />
* No new EU or UN help to save Darfur.<br />
* N Korea situation deteriorating&#8230;.talks fall apart. N Korea detonates a nuclear blast and fires off 7 missles.<br />
* BHO is afraid to &#8220;meddle&#8221; while Iranian thugs kill protesters.<br />
*no new movement in the mid east. Israel close to acting unilaterially. </p>
<p>Obama kills a fly, asks what time is dinner. Michelle walks the dog, and brings in some freshly picked beefsteak tomatoes.  ummm<br />
160 days  A+    Mr President!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
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		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 03:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;when did i say anything about jimmy carter?&lt;/blockquote&gt;You didnt. But you don&#039;t have to; Obama is Jimmy Carter II. &lt;blockquote&gt; i wasn’t even born when he was president.&lt;/blockquote&gt;no wonder you support Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>when did i say anything about jimmy carter?</p></blockquote>
<p>You didnt. But you don&#8217;t have to; Obama is Jimmy Carter II.<br />
<blockquote> i wasn’t even born when he was president.</p></blockquote>
<p>no wonder you support Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: mrsizer</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrsizer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In any case, a statement of support does not need to be inflammatory.

For goodness sake, give a speech - he&#039;s good at that - about Pope John Paul II and Poland. People are not stupid, they&#039;ll get the parallels, but it gives him diplomatic cover.

What about this scenario: The election results are overturned and now Obama must negotiate with the new guy. How happy is he going to be about Obama&#039;s deep concern?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In any case, a statement of support does not need to be inflammatory.</p>
<p>For goodness sake, give a speech &#8211; he&#8217;s good at that &#8211; about Pope John Paul II and Poland. People are not stupid, they&#8217;ll get the parallels, but it gives him diplomatic cover.</p>
<p>What about this scenario: The election results are overturned and now Obama must negotiate with the new guy. How happy is he going to be about Obama&#8217;s deep concern?</p>
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		<title>By: Gene in Pennsylvania</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene in Pennsylvania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The leftist liberal Democrats on the Iraq war wanted it both ways.
When it looked like we were going to roll up the Iraqi military in days they wanted a war resolution that made them look strong and &quot;yeah us too, we want to beat Sadaam&quot;. When war got tough with  the insurgents, the Democrats did what Democrats do. They began second guessing and chickening out. Thank God we had a strong President who stayed the course despite the cost to his reputation in the short run. 45 million Arabs and Muslims rejoice because of it. Obama, like most Democrats is afraid to act until the end result is assured. Trouble is most difficult foreign policy issues aren&#039;t so easy. 
Darfur, Iran, N Korea.....tick tock, we are waiting Mr President. Man up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The leftist liberal Democrats on the Iraq war wanted it both ways.<br />
When it looked like we were going to roll up the Iraqi military in days they wanted a war resolution that made them look strong and &#8220;yeah us too, we want to beat Sadaam&#8221;. When war got tough with  the insurgents, the Democrats did what Democrats do. They began second guessing and chickening out. Thank God we had a strong President who stayed the course despite the cost to his reputation in the short run. 45 million Arabs and Muslims rejoice because of it. Obama, like most Democrats is afraid to act until the end result is assured. Trouble is most difficult foreign policy issues aren&#8217;t so easy.<br />
Darfur, Iran, N Korea&#8230;..tick tock, we are waiting Mr President. Man up.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#16: &quot;Sean, Are you sure you want to go down the Iraq road?&quot;

Ummmm...yes.

&quot;The country was told of the huge threat that Saddam posed and that he was meeting with Al Quedia.&quot;

By, among others, Al Gore, Joe Biden, Bill Clinton, Madeleine Albright,...

&quot;Simplistically, the republicans said OK kill him, take the country over, be greeted with flowers, and watch freedom take over.&quot;

I don&#039;t believe those were the exact words of the Senate Resolution authorizing the war, but in a way, I guess you could say that was the position of, among others, Dodd, Clinton, Kerry, Schumer...

&quot;Easy cheesy!&quot;

Wrong, gill44mn.  No Republican or conservative EVER said (or would say) war is &quot;easy cheesy.&quot;  Only the liberal dim-wits later complained that they had been &quot;tricked&quot; into voting for what they thought was the &quot;no casualties&quot; war option (which liberals continue to believe somehow exists).

&quot;...its not as simplistic as good v evil world that republicans wished we lived in.&quot;

As opposed to the &quot;evil doesn&#039;t exist&quot; world that liberals TRULY BELIEVE they live in (except America, natch).

&quot;The current republican foreign policy model seems to be: Damn the consequences, full bombast ahead!&quot;

Oh, if only.  From your fingertips to God&#039;s ears, gill44mn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#16: &#8220;Sean, Are you sure you want to go down the Iraq road?&#8221;</p>
<p>Ummmm&#8230;yes.</p>
<p>&#8220;The country was told of the huge threat that Saddam posed and that he was meeting with Al Quedia.&#8221;</p>
<p>By, among others, Al Gore, Joe Biden, Bill Clinton, Madeleine Albright,&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Simplistically, the republicans said OK kill him, take the country over, be greeted with flowers, and watch freedom take over.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe those were the exact words of the Senate Resolution authorizing the war, but in a way, I guess you could say that was the position of, among others, Dodd, Clinton, Kerry, Schumer&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Easy cheesy!&#8221;</p>
<p>Wrong, gill44mn.  No Republican or conservative EVER said (or would say) war is &#8220;easy cheesy.&#8221;  Only the liberal dim-wits later complained that they had been &#8220;tricked&#8221; into voting for what they thought was the &#8220;no casualties&#8221; war option (which liberals continue to believe somehow exists).</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;its not as simplistic as good v evil world that republicans wished we lived in.&#8221;</p>
<p>As opposed to the &#8220;evil doesn&#8217;t exist&#8221; world that liberals TRULY BELIEVE they live in (except America, natch).</p>
<p>&#8220;The current republican foreign policy model seems to be: Damn the consequences, full bombast ahead!&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, if only.  From your fingertips to God&#8217;s ears, gill44mn.</p>
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		<title>By: bob (aka boob)</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob (aka boob)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>um, NDT, i never claimed to have decades of experience.

and, fwiw, i graduated law school at 24.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>um, NDT, i never claimed to have decades of experience.</p>
<p>and, fwiw, i graduated law school at 24.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#30: &quot;To those commenters who are defending Obama because you feel that he doesn’t want to make things worse: Do you have any evidence to support this claim? Do you really think that Obama saying the “wrong” thing will cause the government in Iran to crack down any harder?&quot;

No, Charles, of course they don&#039;t have any evidence of that.  In fact, the evidence proves the opposite because despite Obama&#039;s waffling appeasement, IRAN IS BLAMING THE U.S. ANYWAY:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124523854750623001.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#30: &#8220;To those commenters who are defending Obama because you feel that he doesn’t want to make things worse: Do you have any evidence to support this claim? Do you really think that Obama saying the “wrong” thing will cause the government in Iran to crack down any harder?&#8221;</p>
<p>No, Charles, of course they don&#8217;t have any evidence of that.  In fact, the evidence proves the opposite because despite Obama&#8217;s waffling appeasement, IRAN IS BLAMING THE U.S. ANYWAY:</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124523854750623001.html" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124523854750623001.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sean A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#28: &quot;obama recently gave an interview with cnn, in which he addressed this issue. his response is measured, pragmatic...&quot;

Kind of like his 130 &quot;measured, pragmatic&quot; votes of &quot;present&quot; in the Illinois Legislature.  Chad, we all heard his statement--he&#039;s apparently deeply, deeply, deeply, concerned and troubled about the violence in Iran.  Wow.  What a statesman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#28: &#8220;obama recently gave an interview with cnn, in which he addressed this issue. his response is measured, pragmatic&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Kind of like his 130 &#8220;measured, pragmatic&#8221; votes of &#8220;present&#8221; in the Illinois Legislature.  Chad, we all heard his statement&#8211;he&#8217;s apparently deeply, deeply, deeply, concerned and troubled about the violence in Iran.  Wow.  What a statesman.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To those commenters who are defending Obama because you feel that he doesn&#039;t want to make things worse:

Do you have &lt;I&gt;any&lt;/I&gt; evidence to support this claim?  Do you really think that Obama saying the &quot;wrong&quot; thing will cause the government in Iran to crack down any harder? 

In the past, this may have been a likely excuse for the U.S. President to not say much.  But not this time!  In the past protesters were usually just students and young people.  This time it is all age groups and people from all walks of life; some carrying signs in English that say &quot;hope and change.&quot;  Different situations call for different reactions.

Hope is very Powerful - Hope is what helped many in the Nazi camps to stay alive until liberation.  Hope is what kept many in communist prisons, in gulags, or in &quot;re-education&quot; camps to keep believing in their ideals.  Hope is what helps many individuals through the darkest days of their lives.  In short, Hope, next to Love, is a very powerful human emotion - please don&#039;t discount it.

For a President who campaigned on &quot;Hope&quot; it does seem a little odd that he doesn&#039;t seem willing to share hope with those who could use it right now.  The government in Iran will eventually crack down, as they have done in the past.   Hope for this time will give people  hope for the next time.  And in the end, hope may be all that they have left.  So why not give the people &quot;over there&quot; some hope?

I ask, does Obama &lt;I&gt;truly&lt;/I&gt; know what hope is?  Has he ever had &lt;I&gt;real&lt;/I&gt; hope for himself, for others?  Based upon his actions to date, I think the answers are no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those commenters who are defending Obama because you feel that he doesn&#8217;t want to make things worse:</p>
<p>Do you have <i>any</i> evidence to support this claim?  Do you really think that Obama saying the &#8220;wrong&#8221; thing will cause the government in Iran to crack down any harder? </p>
<p>In the past, this may have been a likely excuse for the U.S. President to not say much.  But not this time!  In the past protesters were usually just students and young people.  This time it is all age groups and people from all walks of life; some carrying signs in English that say &#8220;hope and change.&#8221;  Different situations call for different reactions.</p>
<p>Hope is very Powerful &#8211; Hope is what helped many in the Nazi camps to stay alive until liberation.  Hope is what kept many in communist prisons, in gulags, or in &#8220;re-education&#8221; camps to keep believing in their ideals.  Hope is what helps many individuals through the darkest days of their lives.  In short, Hope, next to Love, is a very powerful human emotion &#8211; please don&#8217;t discount it.</p>
<p>For a President who campaigned on &#8220;Hope&#8221; it does seem a little odd that he doesn&#8217;t seem willing to share hope with those who could use it right now.  The government in Iran will eventually crack down, as they have done in the past.   Hope for this time will give people  hope for the next time.  And in the end, hope may be all that they have left.  So why not give the people &#8220;over there&#8221; some hope?</p>
<p>I ask, does Obama <i>truly</i> know what hope is?  Has he ever had <i>real</i> hope for himself, for others?  Based upon his actions to date, I think the answers are no.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene in Pennsylvania</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene in Pennsylvania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My complaint with Obama is one I typically have with leftists and liberals...he&#039;s a whimp. He isn&#039;t a strong leader and is no supporter of freedom and democracy. And btw he must feel a closeness to the Leaders of Iran.....their use of executive fiat. Not as messy as democracy and representative republicanism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My complaint with Obama is one I typically have with leftists and liberals&#8230;he&#8217;s a whimp. He isn&#8217;t a strong leader and is no supporter of freedom and democracy. And btw he must feel a closeness to the Leaders of Iran&#8230;..their use of executive fiat. Not as messy as democracy and representative republicanism.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your argument in this post is undermined by your previous post. there, you begrudgingly acknowledge the work that andrew sullivan has done in covering the iranian protests. i doubt that sullivan would dedicate as much time to this issue if his &quot;left-wing&quot; readership wasn&#039;t interested. 

nor should you presume that obama&#039;s response indicates indifference. obama recently gave an interview with cnn, in which he addressed this issue. his response is measured, pragmatic, but clearly not neoconservative. in the spirit of intellectual honesty, isn&#039;t that your real complaint?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your argument in this post is undermined by your previous post. there, you begrudgingly acknowledge the work that andrew sullivan has done in covering the iranian protests. i doubt that sullivan would dedicate as much time to this issue if his &#8220;left-wing&#8221; readership wasn&#8217;t interested. </p>
<p>nor should you presume that obama&#8217;s response indicates indifference. obama recently gave an interview with cnn, in which he addressed this issue. his response is measured, pragmatic, but clearly not neoconservative. in the spirit of intellectual honesty, isn&#8217;t that your real complaint?</p>
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		<title>By: Juju</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juju</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a TIME piece written by a former CIA field officer that gives another perspective on the Iranian election.  He says don&#039;t assume the election result was rigged.  The protests are staged by educated urban youths, who do not represent the majority of Iranians (poor, rural folks, working class, etc.)  It&#039;s possible that Ahmadinejad did actually win, riots notwithstanding.

&quot;Don&#039;t Assume Ahmadinejad Really Lost&quot;
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1904953,00.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a TIME piece written by a former CIA field officer that gives another perspective on the Iranian election.  He says don&#8217;t assume the election result was rigged.  The protests are staged by educated urban youths, who do not represent the majority of Iranians (poor, rural folks, working class, etc.)  It&#8217;s possible that Ahmadinejad did actually win, riots notwithstanding.</p>
<p>&#8220;Don&#8217;t Assume Ahmadinejad Really Lost&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1904953,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1904953,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NDT --- I kind of started scrolling over boob&#039;s posts a long time ago after I figured out he was incapable of contributing intelligently to a conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NDT &#8212; I kind of started scrolling over boob&#8217;s posts a long time ago after I figured out he was incapable of contributing intelligently to a conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;when did i say anything about jimmy carter? i wasn’t even born when he was president.&lt;/i&gt;

Jimmy Carter was President of the United States from January of 1977 to January of 1981.

Given that this is now 2009, that means boob cannot be more than 29 years old.

Yet, in in his previous postings, boob has claimed to be a graduate of Yale Law school with decades of experience.

Once again, boob has been demonstrated to be nothing more than a complete and total liar and shill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>when did i say anything about jimmy carter? i wasn’t even born when he was president.</i></p>
<p>Jimmy Carter was President of the United States from January of 1977 to January of 1981.</p>
<p>Given that this is now 2009, that means boob cannot be more than 29 years old.</p>
<p>Yet, in in his previous postings, boob has claimed to be a graduate of Yale Law school with decades of experience.</p>
<p>Once again, boob has been demonstrated to be nothing more than a complete and total liar and shill.</p>
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		<title>By: The Livewire</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Livewire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#18.  Glad you agree that we should just kill them where we find them, since the protections of Geneva don&#039;t apply.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://spj.org/gc-text2.asp#1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Article two states&lt;/a&gt;:
Although one of the Powers in conflict may not be a party to the present Convention, the Powers who are parties thereto shall remain bound by it in their mutual relations. They shall furthermore be bound by the Convention in relation to the said Power, &lt;i&gt;if the latter accepts and applies the provisions thereof.&lt;/i&gt; [Emphasis mine.]

Since Hamas, Al Quida, et al.  Do not accept or apply the provisions thereof (ask Daniel Pearl.  Oh wait, you can&#039;t) We can do whatever we want.

It&#039;s a sign of Western Civilization that Club Gitmo exists at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#18.  Glad you agree that we should just kill them where we find them, since the protections of Geneva don&#8217;t apply.</p>
<p><a href="http://spj.org/gc-text2.asp#1" rel="nofollow">Article two states</a>:<br />
Although one of the Powers in conflict may not be a party to the present Convention, the Powers who are parties thereto shall remain bound by it in their mutual relations. They shall furthermore be bound by the Convention in relation to the said Power, <i>if the latter accepts and applies the provisions thereof.</i> [Emphasis mine.]</p>
<p>Since Hamas, Al Quida, et al.  Do not accept or apply the provisions thereof (ask Daniel Pearl.  Oh wait, you can&#8217;t) We can do whatever we want.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a sign of Western Civilization that Club Gitmo exists at all.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s naive in the extreme to think the terrorist barbarians of Al Qaeda hate the USA because we fail to adhere to the most liberal possible interpretation of case law in dealing with their barbarism. 

Mohammed: &quot;Abdul? Pull out of the goat for a minute and listen up! Have you not heard? The USA has failed to abide with dicta from &lt;i&gt;Kartar Singh v. State of Punjab&lt;/i&gt; in its treatment of discovery in terrorism trials?&quot; 

Abdul: &quot;I am radicalized now! Death to the Infidels!&quot;

Goat: Ba-a-a-a-a-a-a-a!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s naive in the extreme to think the terrorist barbarians of Al Qaeda hate the USA because we fail to adhere to the most liberal possible interpretation of case law in dealing with their barbarism. </p>
<p>Mohammed: &#8220;Abdul? Pull out of the goat for a minute and listen up! Have you not heard? The USA has failed to abide with dicta from <i>Kartar Singh v. State of Punjab</i> in its treatment of discovery in terrorism trials?&#8221; </p>
<p>Abdul: &#8220;I am radicalized now! Death to the Infidels!&#8221;</p>
<p>Goat: Ba-a-a-a-a-a-a-a!</p>
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		<title>By: Sean A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#18: &quot;And yes, I was seriously suggesting that, as has been argued by former U.S Attorneys, terrorism should be treated at least partially as a law-enforcement problem, because it demonstrates to those that hate us that we believe in our rule of law.&quot;

Neptune, the Obama Administration has now sided with the Bush interpretation of our &quot;rule of law&quot; which is that the Gitmo detainees DO NOT enjoy access to US Federal Courts.  So, what you really mean by &quot;our rule of law&quot; is whatever liberals think it SHOULD be--guaranteeing our enemies all of the Constitutional rights enjoyed by Americans.

But more importantly, please explain to me the virtue or benefit to be derived by &quot;demonstrating to those who hate us&quot; that the US&#039;s no. 1 priority will be zealously protecting their human rights if they are caught trying to murder us.  Seriously, explain to me why that should be the guiding principle in this debate.  Are you actually contending that perhaps they would renounce their terrorist ways if we guaranteed their right to a trial in an American Court if they happen to be caught in the act of trying to blow us up?  Is that really what you think the terrorists are angry about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#18: &#8220;And yes, I was seriously suggesting that, as has been argued by former U.S Attorneys, terrorism should be treated at least partially as a law-enforcement problem, because it demonstrates to those that hate us that we believe in our rule of law.&#8221;</p>
<p>Neptune, the Obama Administration has now sided with the Bush interpretation of our &#8220;rule of law&#8221; which is that the Gitmo detainees DO NOT enjoy access to US Federal Courts.  So, what you really mean by &#8220;our rule of law&#8221; is whatever liberals think it SHOULD be&#8211;guaranteeing our enemies all of the Constitutional rights enjoyed by Americans.</p>
<p>But more importantly, please explain to me the virtue or benefit to be derived by &#8220;demonstrating to those who hate us&#8221; that the US&#8217;s no. 1 priority will be zealously protecting their human rights if they are caught trying to murder us.  Seriously, explain to me why that should be the guiding principle in this debate.  Are you actually contending that perhaps they would renounce their terrorist ways if we guaranteed their right to a trial in an American Court if they happen to be caught in the act of trying to blow us up?  Is that really what you think the terrorists are angry about?</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neptune, your question was &quot;I have a question, and I mean it seriously because I am curious about your (and other GPers’) thoughts on the matter. What should be done with Gitmo detainees?&quot; Which I answered: Keep them there or put them in some other remote location. Please don&#039;t lie about what I said in the future. It is not civil or appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neptune, your question was &#8220;I have a question, and I mean it seriously because I am curious about your (and other GPers’) thoughts on the matter. What should be done with Gitmo detainees?&#8221; Which I answered: Keep them there or put them in some other remote location. Please don&#8217;t lie about what I said in the future. It is not civil or appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Neptune</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neptune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting what you think appears to be hypocrisy, since not once did I &quot;worry&quot; about China would treat terrorists.  I only made a point that even George Bush&#039;s administration didn&#039;t want to send the Uighurs back there.  And yes, I was seriously suggesting that, as has been argued by former U.S Attorneys, terrorism should be treated at least partially as a law-enforcement problem, because it demonstrates to those that hate us that we believe in our rule of law.  I&#039;m suggesting it&#039;s one option - so I was curious what some of you think our other options are.

Thanks for not answering my question, VtheK.  I knew it was a fool&#039;s errand to ask a question of you and expect a reasoned answer, instead of criticism and hyperbole.

Livewire, thank you for taking the time to offer up a real answer to a real question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting what you think appears to be hypocrisy, since not once did I &#8220;worry&#8221; about China would treat terrorists.  I only made a point that even George Bush&#8217;s administration didn&#8217;t want to send the Uighurs back there.  And yes, I was seriously suggesting that, as has been argued by former U.S Attorneys, terrorism should be treated at least partially as a law-enforcement problem, because it demonstrates to those that hate us that we believe in our rule of law.  I&#8217;m suggesting it&#8217;s one option &#8211; so I was curious what some of you think our other options are.</p>
<p>Thanks for not answering my question, VtheK.  I knew it was a fool&#8217;s errand to ask a question of you and expect a reasoned answer, instead of criticism and hyperbole.</p>
<p>Livewire, thank you for taking the time to offer up a real answer to a real question.</p>
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