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		<title>By: heliotrope</title>
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		<dc:creator>heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 03:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for edumacating me about them roamins. Whatcha gotta say about stray Messiahs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for edumacating me about them roamins. Whatcha gotta say about stray Messiahs?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 21:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>10:  The term refers to Roman Emporers who were turned to Gods by an act of the Roman Senate after their deaths.  I stand corrected for not writing it in a way that was clear.  

11:  McCain&#039;s biggest mistake was constantly putting out messages that the majority of the electorate didn&#039;t want to hear.  Y&#039;all seem to have a real forest through the trees attitude on this; you don&#039; want to tick off the things that were wrong about what conservatives did, but you try to turn the discussion to what was wrong with the message they were putting out.  in &#039;76, the country had just come through Watergate and and our participation in a foriegn war that divided the country.  In &#039;80, we had the hostages in Iran and stagflation.  &#039;84 - well, going pretty well and no need for change, &#039;88 - ride in the coattails of the last guy &#039;92 - inflation and people not happy with the direction of the country.  &#039;96 - see &#039;84, &#039;00 - sadly, it was bring decency back to the white house.  &#039;04 - We&#039;ll protect you from the terrorists (and several anti-gay marriage measures for good measure to get people to the polls.  &#039;08 - A war no one wanted to be in anymore and the fall of the economy, the likes of which we hadn&#039;t seen since the depression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10:  The term refers to Roman Emporers who were turned to Gods by an act of the Roman Senate after their deaths.  I stand corrected for not writing it in a way that was clear.  </p>
<p>11:  McCain&#8217;s biggest mistake was constantly putting out messages that the majority of the electorate didn&#8217;t want to hear.  Y&#8217;all seem to have a real forest through the trees attitude on this; you don&#8217; want to tick off the things that were wrong about what conservatives did, but you try to turn the discussion to what was wrong with the message they were putting out.  in &#8217;76, the country had just come through Watergate and and our participation in a foriegn war that divided the country.  In &#8217;80, we had the hostages in Iran and stagflation.  &#8217;84 &#8211; well, going pretty well and no need for change, &#8217;88 &#8211; ride in the coattails of the last guy &#8217;92 &#8211; inflation and people not happy with the direction of the country.  &#8217;96 &#8211; see &#8217;84, &#8217;00 &#8211; sadly, it was bring decency back to the white house.  &#8217;04 &#8211; We&#8217;ll protect you from the terrorists (and several anti-gay marriage measures for good measure to get people to the polls.  &#8217;08 &#8211; A war no one wanted to be in anymore and the fall of the economy, the likes of which we hadn&#8217;t seen since the depression.</p>
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		<title>By: The_Livewire</title>
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		<dc:creator>The_Livewire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol.  

Kevin, say what you will about President Reagan, he acutally felt it prudent to &#039;meddle&#039; in other nations affairs and was a key leg of the triumverant that brought the Soviets down.  He also was able to work with a oppositon held congress and help usher in a new recovery.  He also didn&#039;t constantly blame his setbacks on his predicessor or the media.  Even against his political opponents he used sarcasm and wit to disarm them.

McCain&#039;s mistake (well one of several) was not emulating the conservative principals President Reagan articulated.  If he&#039;d answered all the &#039;McCain is old&#039; memes with &quot;I will not let my opponents youth and inexperience become an issue in this campaign&quot; he&#039;d have cut them off at the knees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol.  </p>
<p>Kevin, say what you will about President Reagan, he acutally felt it prudent to &#8216;meddle&#8217; in other nations affairs and was a key leg of the triumverant that brought the Soviets down.  He also was able to work with a oppositon held congress and help usher in a new recovery.  He also didn&#8217;t constantly blame his setbacks on his predicessor or the media.  Even against his political opponents he used sarcasm and wit to disarm them.</p>
<p>McCain&#8217;s mistake (well one of several) was not emulating the conservative principals President Reagan articulated.  If he&#8217;d answered all the &#8216;McCain is old&#8217; memes with &#8220;I will not let my opponents youth and inexperience become an issue in this campaign&#8221; he&#8217;d have cut them off at the knees.</p>
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		<title>By: heliotrope</title>
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		<dc:creator>heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; ......like a deified Roman God.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Thems the worst kinda Gods.....them deified ones. I don&#039;t know what Roman has to do with it, but if must require strong deodorant or something.

I like my Gods undeified. That way, I can deify them the way I want.

Now, on the other hand, I prefer my Messiah&#039;s to be arrogant and self centered. I don&#039;t get into that forgiveness and turning the other cheek and golden rule so much. I will take a good old fashioned Mussolini type fascist Messiah any old day. You know, a socialist czar among a politburo of czars. Something you can respect. Like the Mafia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> &#8230;&#8230;like a deified Roman God.</p></blockquote>
<p>Thems the worst kinda Gods&#8230;..them deified ones. I don&#8217;t know what Roman has to do with it, but if must require strong deodorant or something.</p>
<p>I like my Gods undeified. That way, I can deify them the way I want.</p>
<p>Now, on the other hand, I prefer my Messiah&#8217;s to be arrogant and self centered. I don&#8217;t get into that forgiveness and turning the other cheek and golden rule so much. I will take a good old fashioned Mussolini type fascist Messiah any old day. You know, a socialist czar among a politburo of czars. Something you can respect. Like the Mafia.</p>
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		<title>By: SoCalRobert</title>
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		<dc:creator>SoCalRobert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the June Gloom has me in a pessimistic mood today but I don&#039;t think we can rely on &quot;Reagan&#039;s Spirit&quot; to save us from gummint &quot;medicine&quot;. Many of the people who voted this latest buffoon into office were children when Reagan left office (and many still are - mentally and emotionally). They were edumacated in publik screwels and raised by child-like part-time parent(s) who themselves were raised by selfish boomers (yes - I&#039;m a self-loathing &quot;boomer&quot;).

If you ask &quot;adults&quot; about the crushing legacy they&#039;re leaving to future generations, they will likely shrug and say &quot;not my problem&quot;.

Let&#039;s face it - Ronald Reagan probably couldn&#039;t even be nominated if he were to run for office today.


Say what you will, Kevin... Reagan never thought of himself as a messiah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the June Gloom has me in a pessimistic mood today but I don&#8217;t think we can rely on &#8220;Reagan&#8217;s Spirit&#8221; to save us from gummint &#8220;medicine&#8221;. Many of the people who voted this latest buffoon into office were children when Reagan left office (and many still are &#8211; mentally and emotionally). They were edumacated in publik screwels and raised by child-like part-time parent(s) who themselves were raised by selfish boomers (yes &#8211; I&#8217;m a self-loathing &#8220;boomer&#8221;).</p>
<p>If you ask &#8220;adults&#8221; about the crushing legacy they&#8217;re leaving to future generations, they will likely shrug and say &#8220;not my problem&#8221;.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it &#8211; Ronald Reagan probably couldn&#8217;t even be nominated if he were to run for office today.</p>
<p>Say what you will, Kevin&#8230; Reagan never thought of himself as a messiah.</p>
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		<title>By: NebraskaPatriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>NebraskaPatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Ronald Reagan&#039;s Legacy Haunting Democrats...&lt;/strong&gt;

President Reagan is like the ghost of Christmas past for Democrats Everyone knows the names Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Lincoln. These were men of historical importance whose accomplishments and works have survived the test of time. We are nearing a ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Ronald Reagan&#8217;s Legacy Haunting Democrats&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>President Reagan is like the ghost of Christmas past for Democrats Everyone knows the names Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Lincoln. These were men of historical importance whose accomplishments and works have survived the test of time. We are nearing a &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep bringing Reagan as much as you&#039;d like, but I think you and your supporters should cease and desist with messiah talk about Obama.  Frankly, every time you bring up Reagan, you speak about him like a deified Roman God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep bringing Reagan as much as you&#8217;d like, but I think you and your supporters should cease and desist with messiah talk about Obama.  Frankly, every time you bring up Reagan, you speak about him like a deified Roman God.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;ANYONE who supports socialized medicine or defends it is either shockingly ignorant, profoundly narcissistic, or both.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Sean A, I have also found that to be the case.  In some other health care threads on this blog, some of us have opposed an individual who has been shockingly ignorant on basic matters of economics, business, health care as such, political philosophy and the constitutional order established by the Framers.  In the latest example, he told me in essence (i.e., in his own foolish and misguided terminology) to go kill myself.  When I pointed out the hatefulness and hypocrisy which exist in that (hypocrisy because this particular individual sometimes refers to his devotion to Jesus), he seriously tried to make it sound like I was at fault for having pointed it out - a typical Left &quot;moral inversion&quot; or deflection of responsibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>ANYONE who supports socialized medicine or defends it is either shockingly ignorant, profoundly narcissistic, or both.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sean A, I have also found that to be the case.  In some other health care threads on this blog, some of us have opposed an individual who has been shockingly ignorant on basic matters of economics, business, health care as such, political philosophy and the constitutional order established by the Framers.  In the latest example, he told me in essence (i.e., in his own foolish and misguided terminology) to go kill myself.  When I pointed out the hatefulness and hypocrisy which exist in that (hypocrisy because this particular individual sometimes refers to his devotion to Jesus), he seriously tried to make it sound like I was at fault for having pointed it out &#8211; a typical Left &#8220;moral inversion&#8221; or deflection of responsibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Powell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Obama and Democrats should first clean up the healthcare system they already control.

Veterans in this country continue to be subjected to less than quality care at times in this country as evidenced by 53 of them recently infected with HIV or Hepatitis at VA facilities. Democrats and President Obama talk about how quality care won&#039;t be effected by Obamacare but the Veterans Hospital system in this country is a living-breathing example of a nationally run healthcare system.

I&#039;m certainly not saying that errors don&#039;t occur in our current healthcare system but the VA has been one oops after another through the years.

Our Veterans deserve better and I take no comfort in watching the Feds running the VA and how that will translate into running our entire healthcare system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Obama and Democrats should first clean up the healthcare system they already control.</p>
<p>Veterans in this country continue to be subjected to less than quality care at times in this country as evidenced by 53 of them recently infected with HIV or Hepatitis at VA facilities. Democrats and President Obama talk about how quality care won&#8217;t be effected by Obamacare but the Veterans Hospital system in this country is a living-breathing example of a nationally run healthcare system.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m certainly not saying that errors don&#8217;t occur in our current healthcare system but the VA has been one oops after another through the years.</p>
<p>Our Veterans deserve better and I take no comfort in watching the Feds running the VA and how that will translate into running our entire healthcare system.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dick Morris had a great column awhile back on why Obama continues to garner support even though his policies don&#039;t.  Since the election is so fresh in our mind, we still want to come together to support Obama, even though we don&#039;t like what he&#039;s doing.  However, by the end of summer his &quot;inherited&quot; lines will be used up, and you can see this already happening in his poll numbers dropping more and more.  If the economy isn&#039;t better by Sept 1, you can be sure the Democrats will be pissing their pants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick Morris had a great column awhile back on why Obama continues to garner support even though his policies don&#8217;t.  Since the election is so fresh in our mind, we still want to come together to support Obama, even though we don&#8217;t like what he&#8217;s doing.  However, by the end of summer his &#8220;inherited&#8221; lines will be used up, and you can see this already happening in his poll numbers dropping more and more.  If the economy isn&#8217;t better by Sept 1, you can be sure the Democrats will be pissing their pants.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My view of the debate about socialized medicine/Obamacare is analogous to the gay left&#039;s view of the debate about gay marriage:  I absolutely refuse to acknowledge that there is room for rational disagreement on the issue.  There is NOTHING to support the implementation of such a system economically, morally, statistically, logically, anecdotally, or hypothetically.  Otherwise, liberals would be able to tell the truth about AT LEAST 1% of the proposal.  Every positive thing that is ever said about it (or will ever be said about it) is an absolute, bold-faced, obscene, sickening lie.  It is the best and purest example of bureaucratic evil, and unlike other debates where I can sincerely assure those who disagree with me that I respect them and their right to an opposing viewpoint, I have no such capacity for the proponents of this system.  ANYONE who supports socialized medicine or defends it is either shockingly ignorant, profoundly narcissistic, or both.  I am proudly and fiercely bigoted against these people and their wicked queen, Nancy Pelosi.  Yesterday, when the Congressional Budget Office released the gazillion dollar pricetag for the plan, that useless waste-of-space Pelosi had the nerve to react as follows:

Pelosi accused the nonpartisan budget analysts of always providing &quot;the worst case scenario&quot; on the costs of health care reforms and ignoring the savings associated with the proposal.  http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/18/cia-pelosi-targets-congressional-budget-office-health-care-cost-estimate/

That&#039;s right.  She&#039;s sitting on a $100 million real estate empire in a state with over 11% unemployment and she has the nerve to act as though we don&#039;t have a right to know what the &quot;worst case scenario&quot; is with regard to how she plans to spend OUR MONEY. Of course, that is her elitist approach to everything she spends our money on, but in this particular case she is going to the mat to impose a system on us that will literally endanger our lives.  She deserves nothing but our contempt and disgust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My view of the debate about socialized medicine/Obamacare is analogous to the gay left&#8217;s view of the debate about gay marriage:  I absolutely refuse to acknowledge that there is room for rational disagreement on the issue.  There is NOTHING to support the implementation of such a system economically, morally, statistically, logically, anecdotally, or hypothetically.  Otherwise, liberals would be able to tell the truth about AT LEAST 1% of the proposal.  Every positive thing that is ever said about it (or will ever be said about it) is an absolute, bold-faced, obscene, sickening lie.  It is the best and purest example of bureaucratic evil, and unlike other debates where I can sincerely assure those who disagree with me that I respect them and their right to an opposing viewpoint, I have no such capacity for the proponents of this system.  ANYONE who supports socialized medicine or defends it is either shockingly ignorant, profoundly narcissistic, or both.  I am proudly and fiercely bigoted against these people and their wicked queen, Nancy Pelosi.  Yesterday, when the Congressional Budget Office released the gazillion dollar pricetag for the plan, that useless waste-of-space Pelosi had the nerve to react as follows:</p>
<p>Pelosi accused the nonpartisan budget analysts of always providing &#8220;the worst case scenario&#8221; on the costs of health care reforms and ignoring the savings associated with the proposal.  <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/18/cia-pelosi-targets-congressional-budget-office-health-care-cost-estimate/" rel="nofollow">http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/18/cia-pelosi-targets-congressional-budget-office-health-care-cost-estimate/</a></p>
<p>That&#8217;s right.  She&#8217;s sitting on a $100 million real estate empire in a state with over 11% unemployment and she has the nerve to act as though we don&#8217;t have a right to know what the &#8220;worst case scenario&#8221; is with regard to how she plans to spend OUR MONEY. Of course, that is her elitist approach to everything she spends our money on, but in this particular case she is going to the mat to impose a system on us that will literally endanger our lives.  She deserves nothing but our contempt and disgust.</p>
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		<title>By: Swampfox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swampfox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 00:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should demand that Congress fix Medicare/Miedicaid first..........  No country ever taxed itself into properity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should demand that Congress fix Medicare/Miedicaid first&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.  No country ever taxed itself into properity.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Will the Spirit of Ronald Reagan Sink Obamacare? &lt;/blockquote&gt;Let&#039;s hope and pray!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Will the Spirit of Ronald Reagan Sink Obamacare? </p></blockquote>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope and pray!!!</p>
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