Comments on: When Will Hillary Resign?

By: keegan

keegan — Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:31:12 +0000

The problem is that if she waits too long to step down, she will be blamed for a number of mistakes. I say sometime in the next year she’ll have to step down. It’s unfortunate that she is in this difficult position. I think she’ll have to wait for another major policy dispute where she can legitimize her opposition and highlight her differences. She has Honduras as one example, and Iran as well. But she’ll need a big one that has received a lot of press attention as an Obama error. Frankly, Obama was able to pass off his Iran position believably (not supporting the demonstrators) and very few people know or care about Honduras. So she’ll just have to wait for something big.

By: Peter Hughes

Peter Hughes — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:00:11 +0000

#15 – “Hillary was a former Goldwater follower. Could the Repubs entice her at all?”

For our party’s sake, I hope not. Even if she did renounce the dark side and became a Republican, I would never support nor endorse her. Talk about a Fifth Columnist!

Regards,
Peter H.

By: Peter Hughes

Peter Hughes — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:59:01 +0000

#10 – “She is also, like all other women, particularly in politics, responsible for the situations she finds herself in, just like the big boys.”

You mean like marrying the man who occupied the Oval Orifice from 1993-2001?

Or becoming SoS through her own experience and education (i.e. Condoleezza Rice)?

Try again.

Regards,
Peter H.

By: The Livewire

The Livewire — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:59:51 +0000

Scherie,

No, I don’t think she saw she’d be marginalized, at least not this fast. i think she thought she’d be able to undermine him, or at least push her own adgenda, and it didn’t pay off.

By: Scherie

Scherie — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:40:13 +0000

I do not understand why Clinton took this job. Did she not realize she was going to be marginalized?!?!? It’s kind of embarassing. I’m embarassed for her, actually. No one with any kind of self respect would want to be in this position. The fact that she took it says a lot. She should resign.

By: chad

chad — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:33:26 +0000

With respect to Rahm, I have to wonder…if and when Hillary departs, will other Clintonistas follow? It would seem especially likely if the Obama administration truly starts sinking (rather than merely having mediocre poll numbers as is the case right now).

By: docweasel

docweasel — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:00:15 +0000

“It doesn’t seem the President turns to her for advice as his predecessor looked to hers ”

I think you mean his, unless you’re accusing Bush of being dickless and/or having no balls

By: Not Always Right

Not Always Right — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:04:00 +0000

Having met Leah once and listened to her talk about a variety of subjects, I doubt very much she is spouting feminist rubbish. I think she speaks her mind and should not be accused of getting away with something just because as a woman she can say what a man cannot….or whatever.

Dan, why did you think Rahm would be among the first to leave the Obama administration?

By: Roberto

Roberto — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:56:11 +0000

It has been hit or miss and more miss than hit. This is only the second time since I´ve returned to El Salvador that I´ve been able to access the site.

As for Hillary, I think she and the President will be coming to a parting of the ways. Last week, watching her interview with Leopoldo Castillo, of Globovision of Venezuela, she was trying awfully hard to articulate Obama´s policy. Her take on the situation in Honduras and on Chavez´s violation of human rights and liberties in Venezuela and his alliance with Ahmadinejad are at odds with Obama´s. Her sense of diplomacy is to try engage withou kissing the butts of dictators and terrorists. I give about six months to a year before she resigns. Mayba Obama will elevate Eric Holder or some other wimp to the post of Secretary of State.

By: Wray Rives

Wray Rives — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:02:33 +0000

It was obvious the day Obama announced that HC would be his Sec State his plan was to marginalize here. But she is not a newbie, I have to believe she saw this coming and already has a plan.

By: keyboard jockey

keyboard jockey — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:16:57 +0000

Hillary will say and do what is best for Hillary Clinton. She does make political missteps from time to time, could this be one of them? Her position on Margaret Sanger, when the polls show more and more people are pro life.

http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2009/07/logic-junkie-exhaustion-of-obvious.html

By: V the K

V the K — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:44:40 +0000

I can’t imagine Hillary giving up power, except in the pursuit of more power.

By: chad

chad — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:31:32 +0000

Regardless of what happens with Hillary with respect to her being SoS, I don’t think anyone will challenge Obama for the nomination in ’12 unless things truly fall apart for Obama. (Granted, I think that’s a real possibility.) Hillary, naturally, is the most likely person to beat Obama for the nomination in ’12. But if Hillary takes on Obama in ’12 and losses, I think it harms her chances for ’16, being viewed as a divider of the party. It’s hard to think of anyone who has improved their standing with a party by taking on an incumbent president for the nomination. The only exception I can think of is Reagan, and that was against the unelected Pres. Ford. Anyway, it is definitely conceivable that Hillary will run against Obama in ’12, but I wouldn’t bet on it at this point. Whether Obama wins or loses in ’12, plan on her running in ’16. In ’12, she’ll be a private citizen and a supporter of Obama (at least publicly). And I don’t think she would want Obama to lose in ’12, given how that would force her to face a Republican incumbent in ’16.

As for Hillary being the Republican candidate—interesting idea, but never ever ever ever going to happen. It’s only been within the last two years that any Republicans have viewed her somewhat sympathetically. The ideological divide between Hillary and Obama is much smaller than that between Hillary and the GOP. I understand the argument that you don’t want to nominate someone from the right flank of the GOP, but what lesson did moderate Republicans (Colin Powell, David Brooks, etc.) teach the GOP in 2008? Pick a moderate, and we’ll still bolt the party. People who want a socially liberal, big government president are going to vote for the Democrat anyway. Democrat-lites lose to Democrats. If Obama is riding high in ’12, it won’t matter who the Republicans pick. But if Obama is beatable, Republicans would do best with someone who is much different than Obama. (And IMHO, the issues to beat him on are the size and role of government, taking a hard stance against tyrants around the world, and judicial philosophy, all while not striking too moralistic a tone on social issues, which often bugs even social conservatives like myself.)

By: BBC

BBC — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:54:04 +0000

Hillary has been such a bumbling embarrassment since she was pushed onto the world stage that I just assumed someone at Foggy Bottom was trying to torpedo her. Excellent translators come dime a dozen – her State Dept couldn’t find one to translate her foolish & embarrassing Russian Re-start Buttom. Sabotage? She obviously wasn’t prepped for her trip to Mexico where she ignorantly asked Who painted the Virgin? Forgetting / mangling names of diplomats at her own rank or higher – inexcusable. Looks like someone is cleverly enhancing Hillary’s natural clumsiness, lack of charm and flat-footedness. Who knows, maybe she fired everyone with experience and packed the ranks with her own people.

By: Paul

Paul — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:24:46 +0000

The best theory I’ve heard about HRC was in a blog somewhere when BHO nominated her. She knew that the biggest concerns facing our country the next few years would be economic, and the BHO wouldn’t have a clue what to do (boy was that projection spot-on). She would bide her time at State, hoping for no major disaster or attack, then ride in on her White Horse in 4 years to replace Obama, attacking him as an ineffective President, and that she has the experience to tackle the economic issues. She would also use her time as SOS to pad her foreign experience. She will resign sometime after the midterm elections, and then challenge Obama for the Democrat Nomination. She immediately would have 1/2 the Democrat base, and then easily takes away much of Obama’s support from the unhappy Hopey Changey crowd.

By: Libertygal

Libertygal — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:24:24 +0000

Hillary was a former Goldwater follower. Could the Repubs entice her at all? I think she could beet Obama as a Republican in 2012 or on a Republican ticket with someone else.

I know she is pro-choice, but I feel more moderate in that regard than Obama. I think that issue should be neutralized for both parties, don’t if it is possible though.

McCain, received 35% of the Gay vote, can you imagine how many women Hillary could bring on board for the Republicans.

I can’t stand what Obama is doing to our Republic. Me thinks, Hillary doesn’t like it either.

Just a crazy thought, I know. I can hope though.

By: chad

chad — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:03:04 +0000

NDT, even if Hillary is Sec of State for only a short time, I’m not sure that she will regret giving up her senate seat. Back when she was picked by Obama, I was thinking myself whether she would want to give up her senate seat, which she could conceivably keep indefinitely, to be Sec of State for a few years (eight at the very most). But I think she was glad to have an excuse to get out of the Senate. Eight years as a senator and another eight as FL is certainly enough experience for a WH run. Being in the Senate longer would probably have just been a drag for her. However, just quitting would have made it look like she only valued being a senator as a stepping stone to president. The prominent cabinet job was a great legitimate excuse to escape the Senate, even if she doesn’t stay at the new job long.

BTW, in case it sounds like I’m picking on Hillary for being uniquely exploitative of political offices, obviously, a lot of ambitious Republicans also use certain elected offices and appointments as stepping stones to a higher job that they really want.

By: Clint

Clint — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:11:48 +0000

Perhaps adding “Governor of New York” to her impressive First Lady, Senator, and Secretary of State resume would get her closer to making Bill respond to “First Dude”?

By: ILoveCapitalism

ILoveCapitalism — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 03:46:48 +0000

“Otherwise its just another woman who got shafted by the men in her party”.
THAT is sexist rubbish.

No, because it was spoken by a woman. (Leah at #6)

I mean, the above is straight from the Left playbook, right? It doesn’t count if the ‘right’ ‘minority’ spoke it, right?

By: ILoveCapitalism

ILoveCapitalism — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 03:43:39 +0000

Obammunism isn’t working, which means it will become useful to sacrifice Geithner before too long. Meanwhile, keeping Hillary on to neutralize the Clintonistas is still very useful. And Hillary can’t afford to become known as the woman who tried to torpedo Obammunism. So, Hillary will outlast Geithner. That’s my prediction.

Let me add: Geithner has the furtive face of a criminal; a man who spews B.S. and knows it.