My Answer To Pelosi & Reid Calling Disagreement on Healthcare Reform: “Un-American”
(Not My) Speaker & Crazy Harry had their say in today’s USA Today.
‘Un-American’ attacks can’t derail health care debate
By Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer
Here’s my response folks: how about you buy this bumper sticker and slap it right on your car?
All we can say is, America is very lucky that George W. Bush was president. Had he not been, we might never have found out that dissent is patriotic.
-Bruce (GayPatriot)
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Leftist jerks ridicule black man hospitalized by union thugs.
Comment by V the K — August 10, 2009 @ 11:47 am - August 10, 2009
Clever re-use of a (former) Dem talking point, Bruce. Love it!
VtheK: Despicable, but par for the course. Check out Pam’s House Blend, Bilerico and Joe My God. These liberal gay blogs have drunken the Kool Aid when it comes to all things Democrat so much they wouldn’t know rationality if it bit them in the ass.
Comment by John — August 10, 2009 @ 12:18 pm - August 10, 2009
Funny how the anti-American libtard left from the past 8 years now claims moral authority on what patriotism really is.
Hypocrisy in action, folks.
Regards,
Peter H.
Comment by Peter Hughes — August 10, 2009 @ 12:30 pm - August 10, 2009
I love that bumper sticker. I’ve ordered one and I’ll put it on my oh so non-PC pickup as soon as it arrives.
You all have done a fantastic job covering the duplicity of the left. Many thanks.
It just drives me nuts to listen to our political leadership call me and those like me vile names for exercising our first amendment rights. The question I keep asking myself is to what end? They are disaffecting the very people they’re going to ask to re-elect them at some future date. In their hearts they must know that we are not what they say we are. If that is so then isn’t this self destructive behavior? If both political parties rely on the centrists for elections don’t the dems realize that those folks are also watching and listening? Does the left really think they’re all so stupid they can’t tell lies and obfuscation from ‘transparency’?
I’m a cop for crying out loud. I’ve been so non-political as to be a cypher but this administration and the democratic party leadership have galvanized me to speak out for the first time in my life. Not only am I not being organized and paid by the insurance industry I am taking a serious chance of being disclipined by my agency. I went to our tea party in April (And I wasn’t the only off duty officer there either) for the first public protest in a life lived well within the bounds of political propriety. Does that sound like astroturfing Ms. Pelosi?
Maybe this is all my fault. Mine and other Americans just like me. Maybe I should have spoken out sooner and louder.
I didn’t but if the President Obama, Speaker Pelosi and Senator Reid think I’m going to shut up now they’re badly mistaken. The more they decry the movement and brand me unpatriotic and a nazi the less inclined I am to listen to anything they have to say.
And if reports are accurate, I damn sure am not alone!
Oh, by the way AARP. I called and cancelled my membership this morning and flushed my card down the toilet. I’m going to donate that money to cancer research instead.
Comment by The Six — August 10, 2009 @ 12:35 pm - August 10, 2009
The Obamacrats just don’t understand that people feel passionately about losing their freedom, and are willing to fight to keep it.
Comment by V the K — August 10, 2009 @ 12:47 pm - August 10, 2009
In 2006, Nancy Pelosi thought protests were respectable and patriotic.
Comment by V the K — August 10, 2009 @ 12:57 pm - August 10, 2009
#6 – So did Hillary Clinton (or, as Mark Levin calls her, “Her Thighness”):
Regards,
Peter H.
Comment by Peter Hughes — August 10, 2009 @ 1:00 pm - August 10, 2009
Whoops, forgot the link:
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/10/drowning-out-opposing-views-is-simply-un-american/
My bad.
Regards,
Peter H.
Comment by Peter Hughes — August 10, 2009 @ 1:01 pm - August 10, 2009
I have never been an activist but this administration and Congress is driving me to become one. And that irritates me to NO END! I used to like being a lazy voter. Hm, maybe that is the problem…
Man, I wish there was a chance in he77 that a third party (oh, such as a Conservative Libertarian party) could sweep the next elections.
Comment by aanjheni — August 10, 2009 @ 1:03 pm - August 10, 2009
Wasn’t it noted black activist Malcolm X who asked people to assert their civil rights “by any means necessary?”
So what’s wrong when proud Americans like conservatives do the same?
Regards,
Peter H.
Comment by Peter Hughes — August 10, 2009 @ 1:18 pm - August 10, 2009
But of course, Pelosi and Hoyer did NOT say that disagreement on healthcare reform was unAmerican.
Why do you willfully mischaracterize what they say?
They said “Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American”.
As in thuggishly invading a townhall where people are trying to ask their represenatives questions, and hoping for answers, and taking over the meeting, shouting down everyone, so that no one else gets to participate.
That is rude, bullying, and contrary to democratic prinicples. It is unAmerican.
You should condemn such behavior, not only on principled grounds, but also because it does great harm to your interests, allowing the Democrats to (accurately) paint these people as extremist thugs.
Comment by Tano — August 10, 2009 @ 1:27 pm - August 10, 2009
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Her actual quote:
“Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American. Drowning out the facts is how we failed at this task for decades.”
So Dissent all you want.
Just don’t act like a bunch of apes
Nancy P waits for your apology
Comment by gillie — August 10, 2009 @ 1:37 pm - August 10, 2009
Bruce, glad to see it in bumper sticker form. Just ordered mine!
Comment by ILoveCapitalism — August 10, 2009 @ 1:56 pm - August 10, 2009
#13 – “Nancy P waits for your apology”
So what the fcuk are you, her social secretary?
She’ll get my apology when she herself apologizes for calling me a Nazi and waving a swastika.
Dumbass. Both of you.
Regards,
Peter H.
Comment by Peter Hughes — August 10, 2009 @ 2:07 pm - August 10, 2009
Still waiting for Tano and gillie to provide links. Until then, their talk is just sound and fury, told by idiots, signifying nothing.
Comment by The Livewire — August 10, 2009 @ 2:42 pm - August 10, 2009
So, Tardo and stupidbutt are all about civility now? Will they condemn these uncivil statements from the leader of their party?
Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”
Obama to His Followers: “Get in Their Faces!”
Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
Obama To His Mercenary Army: “Hit Back Twice As Hard”
Comment by V the K — August 10, 2009 @ 2:44 pm - August 10, 2009
And meanwhile, there are links showing how the Obama Party is openly soliciting paid positions to “help pass healthcare reform”.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — August 10, 2009 @ 2:47 pm - August 10, 2009
The Livewire “still” is waiting for links???
What does this mean?
The link is in Bruce’s original post.
Read the damn thing.
And Bruce,
Why not answer my question? Why are you distorting (though a stronger word is probably appropriate) what they say? What kind of a game are you playing?
Comment by Tano — August 10, 2009 @ 3:41 pm - August 10, 2009
Tano –
1 – Because I have a life and a real job and I’m not waiting around all day just to get your “gotcha” questions.
2 – The link to the USA Today article is there for all to read and make their own minds up. The blockquote I used IS THE USA TODAY HEADLINE ITSELF.
So go bother USA Today, ya troll.
Comment by GayPatriot — August 10, 2009 @ 3:56 pm - August 10, 2009
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Reading Pelosi’s diatribe, I thought he was talking about the SEIU and ACORN types.
“However, it is now evident that an ugly campaign is underway not merely to misrepresent the health insurance reform legislation, but to disrupt public meetings and prevent members of Congress and constituents from conducting a civil dialogue.” Well yes, when you lie, ask people to spy on their fellow Americans and send out your purpleshirted thugs to beat the opposition, it can be seen that way.
Such as this gem. “The first fact is that health insurance reform will mean more patient choice. It will allow every American who likes his or her current plan to keep it. And it will free doctors and patients to make the health decisions that make the most sense, not the most profits for insurance companies.”
After all it’s not like providers are dropping Medicare and Medicaid, or that people don’t have the ability to make informed choices…
As to you allergy to facts:
Well lets start with a link to back up your tin foil hat theory that some Mr. Big is giving marching orders. Especially since the link you provided here didn’t back up your point.
Or maybe you should give credit to the previous administration for cleaning up the VA, since it’s now ‘an excellent system.’
Or here where you accuse again this Richard Scott (you know the same one you vindicated in the first link) of organizing the ‘tea-bagging violence’. Funny, I don’t recall Jessie Dirkshing being brought up by anyone else. Oh and you bring up the Swift Boat vets again.
Swift Boating (v) to tell the truth about Democrats.
So I now fully expect, now that his lies, craziness, and inability to document his statements are again shown like a bright light, Tano to go scurring for the corners of a thread. Like he, gillie, inlookout and all their ilk do every time the light is shown on him.
I’d compare ‘em to cockroaches, but don’t want to insult the roaches.
Comment by The_Livewire — August 10, 2009 @ 4:18 pm - August 10, 2009
Um, Did Tardo ever answer my two challenge questions:
1. What party controlled the Congress that wrote the budgets for FY2008 and FY2009?
2. What happened to the Federal Budget Deficit in those two budgets?
If he can’t answer my questions, why should you answer his?
Comment by V the K — August 10, 2009 @ 4:23 pm - August 10, 2009
As in thuggishly invading a townhall where people are trying to ask their represenatives questions, and hoping for answers, and taking over the meeting, shouting down everyone, so that no one else gets to participate.
You mean like your Obama-supported SEIU is openly stating their goal is to do?
Action: Opponents of reform are organizing counter-demonstrators to speak at this and several congressional town halls on the issue to defend the status quo. It is critical that our members with real, personal stories about the need for access to quality, affordable care come out in strong numbers to drown out their voices.
Again, the little hypocrite Barack Obama gets caught doing exactly what he claims everyone else is doing. Typical of a lying black thug.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — August 10, 2009 @ 4:27 pm - August 10, 2009
I respond to him when he proves he called USA Today to complain about their headline.
I guess I have to declare a full-on Doofus Watch Alert here at GayPatriot.
Comment by GayPatriot — August 10, 2009 @ 4:27 pm - August 10, 2009
Obamacrat thugs threaten another gusano. A man with a handicapped son asks inconvenient questions of an Obamacrat congressman, promptly receives threats of violence.
They get offended when we raise our voices; but their threats and acts of violence are just supposed to be “part of the game.”
Comment by V the K — August 10, 2009 @ 4:37 pm - August 10, 2009
I’m still waiting for Tardo to provide evidence that people are getting paid and are bussed in to the events.
Comment by ThatGayConservative — August 10, 2009 @ 4:39 pm - August 10, 2009
And even if people were (which they are NOT), it would still only constitute effective community organizing.
Comment by ILoveCapitalism — August 10, 2009 @ 4:54 pm - August 10, 2009
With color codes. Threat level Orange!
Comment by ILoveCapitalism — August 10, 2009 @ 4:56 pm - August 10, 2009
GayPatriot,
This is your blog, and what you print over your own name is your own responsibility.
Its actually kinda amusing to see a conservative blogger try to dodge responsibility for what he headlines in his own blog by claiming – gee, I was just copying a headline from the mainstream media.
Do you not believe that you have a responsibility, at minimum, to tell the truth? And if you, innocently, just copied the USAToday headline, maybe without even reading Pelosi & Hoyer’s article, then now that you know that the headline is a gross mischaracterization, shouldn’t you at least acknowledge that? Change the headline? At least update with new information?
I realize that an apology to those who you have misrepresented would be asking for way to high a level of responsibility…
Comment by Tano — August 10, 2009 @ 5:11 pm - August 10, 2009
Tano,
All you have to do is stop drinking the Kool Aid and even you will start to stand up for your freedom!!!
Dave
Comment by Dave_62 — August 10, 2009 @ 5:31 pm - August 10, 2009
And people wonder why I don’t respect liberals.
Tano is living proof.
Regards,
Peter H.
Comment by Peter Hughes — August 10, 2009 @ 5:52 pm - August 10, 2009
LOL….the only person whining that the headline is a “gross mischaracterization” is Tano, who has been proven on multiple occasions to be an Obama Party partisan who will lie and say whatever needs to be said to defend his Obama Party, regardless of the facts.
Meanwhile, Tano is desperately spinning, attacking GP, because Tano is too much of a stinking coward to deal with exactly what his Obama Party is doing.
If Tano had morality or principles, he would condemn his fellow Barack Obama supporters in the SEIU for stating publicly that their intention was to “drown out” other protestors. He hasn’t. Instead, he’s screamed and tried to attack other people for not being responsible.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — August 10, 2009 @ 6:06 pm - August 10, 2009
And people wonder why I don’t respect liberals.
Amen and pass the Ouzo.
Comment by ThatGayConservative — August 10, 2009 @ 7:07 pm - August 10, 2009
Sen. Blanche Lincoln said “un-American” last week, then retracted it:
“It’s so sad, because it’s diminishing to the process, it’s diminishing to our outcome,” Lincoln said in a conference call with reporters. “I think it’s sad that they choose to do that. I think it’s un-American and disrespectful.”
Here is Pelosi and Hoyer:
“These disruptions are occurring because opponents are afraid not just of differing views — but of the facts themselves. Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American”
Not much difference, why would Blanche Lincoln retrack, and Pelosi and Hoyer stay with it?
Comment by Geena — August 10, 2009 @ 7:11 pm - August 10, 2009
Hey gillie, when it comes to people deciding if you live or die, take a pill
Comment by The_Livewire — August 10, 2009 @ 7:16 pm - August 10, 2009
“Drowning people out” is the Left’s bread and butter! Their major tactic! LOL
Comment by ILoveCapitalism — August 10, 2009 @ 7:19 pm - August 10, 2009
gillie’s Dear Leader is a DOPE! I am still LMAO about that as well, that the Left took him seriously and elected him!
Comment by ILoveCapitalism — August 10, 2009 @ 7:23 pm - August 10, 2009
If Tardo had morality or principles, he wouldn’t be a leftist progressive.
Comment by V the K — August 10, 2009 @ 7:48 pm - August 10, 2009
Sorry if either of these have already been posted.
- Jon Henke takes a walk down memory lane, to when the left thought it was right and proper for the opposition to be angry.
- The beautiful and talented Mary Katherine Ham has a memo from *this past week* where Democrats plan town hall disruptions specifically to drown out other people’s voices.
Comment by ILoveCapitalism — August 10, 2009 @ 9:02 pm - August 10, 2009
Yikes. Mary Katherine’s thing is what NDT and y’all have been talking about. Again, apologies. I am getting over a bad cold and my short-term memory has been a little off all day.
Comment by ILoveCapitalism — August 10, 2009 @ 9:05 pm - August 10, 2009
Was Cindy Sheehan unAmerican for camping out in front of Bush’s ranch?
Comment by Ashpenaz — August 10, 2009 @ 9:42 pm - August 10, 2009
Insofar as her sympathies lay openly with the terrorists, and against her own son’s life’s work and comrades: I am afraid that she was un-American, yes. Before you react to that, please carefully re-read the opening qualifier. There was nothing un-American about the basic fact of her wanting to speak her mind or her camping out in front of Bush’s ranch.
Comment by ILoveCapitalism — August 10, 2009 @ 9:51 pm - August 10, 2009
Continuing the thought… I said it at the time and I’ll say it again:
- Loyal opposition – opposition that wants America to succeed – is American.
- Disloyal opposition – opposition that sides with external enemies whose stated goal is to destroy America – is un-American.
So the term “un-American” does have a proper use. There is a proper time and place for it. To use it unfairly or on American citizens who have in no way sided with enemies, is very wrong.
Comment by ILoveCapitalism — August 10, 2009 @ 9:58 pm - August 10, 2009
“Was Cindy Sheehan unAmerican for camping out in front of Bush’s ranch?”
Of course not. I always thought her quite the jerk, although I generally agreed with her take on the war. By camping out in Crawford she did nothing to suppress anyone else’s freedom of speech, nor did she disrupt a meeting that regular citizens wished to have with their elected officials.
Those are the behaviors which are an assault against the democratic process, and thus unAmerican.
Comment by Tano — August 10, 2009 @ 10:04 pm - August 10, 2009
Though I think at this point, the fact that Tano will not provide any information to back up his (contradictory) view points, or condemn the SEIU, we know where his definitions really lay
Comment by The_Livewire — August 10, 2009 @ 10:11 pm - August 10, 2009
An assault on the democratic process? What the Sam Hill does that mean?
The only assault in the whole affair was a conservative who was called a “n*gger” and beaten by SIEU stormstroopers. How could anyone defend that?
Best wishes,
-MFS
Comment by MFS — August 10, 2009 @ 10:56 pm - August 10, 2009
“An assault on the democratic process? What the Sam Hill does that mean? ”
You know, it really isn’t all that complicated.
In our democracy, we elect certain people to represent us. These people come back to meet the voters from time to time, to inform them of what is going on in Washington, and to listen to their concerns. Thats how we get an efficient representation under our democracy.
If an individual or group decides to prevent these types of meetings from going forward, by bullying and shouting, and causing chaos, then they are interfering with that democratic process.
Now tell me, you really could not have figured that out for yourself?
Comment by Tano — August 10, 2009 @ 11:40 pm - August 10, 2009
#48 – “If an individual or group decides to prevent these types of meetings from going forward, by bullying and shouting, and causing chaos, then they are interfering with that democratic process.”
You mean like the way Code Pink did with both McCain’s and Palin’s addresses to the GOP Convention in 2008? With, by the way, possible assistance from the mainstream media in terms of getting credentials to get on the convention floor?
Try again.
Regards,
Peter H.
Comment by Peter Hughes — August 10, 2009 @ 11:46 pm - August 10, 2009
Yeah Peter, just like that.
Which leads to an interesting question. Why are these teaparty people not given the same treatment as the codepinkers? Ya know, the minute they start their screaming, they get the polite bum’s rush from security.
If thats the way they were handled, then I’d actually not have all that much of a problem with them, because, in the end, they would not be succeeding in hijacking the meetings. So long as thats the way it turns out, we could be tolerant a bit and give them 10 seconds to scream their points.
Cheerio…
Comment by Tano — August 10, 2009 @ 11:54 pm - August 10, 2009
I do have an exercise tip. The union thug videos from the St. Louis and Florida town halls are an excellent motivator during weightlifting.
Comment by Ignatius — August 11, 2009 @ 12:03 am - August 11, 2009
If Cindy Sheehan had called Bush’s policies a “death panel,” she would have been lauded as a hero. But when Sarah Palin says it, she’s just nuts.
I’m with Palin on this one–I just don’t see how you can avoid a government who wants to lower taxes deciding whose life is worth money to save. They’ll set up a panel to decide which humans are the best investment. I suspect that money will be spent on the healthcare of the young and attractive–but there won’t be funds for the old, unborn, fat, ugly, stupid, or gay.
Comment by Ashpenaz — August 11, 2009 @ 12:31 am - August 11, 2009
Oh, and has anyone noticed that this healthcare mess proves that Obama is not a particularly convincing speaker? His speeches don’t seem to be as magic as they used to be.
Comment by Ashpenaz — August 11, 2009 @ 12:34 am - August 11, 2009
If an individual or group decides to prevent these types of meetings from going forward, by bullying and shouting, and causing chaos, then they are interfering with that democratic process.
Unless of course they’re Obama Party union thugs, in which case Tano completely supports and endorses them “drowning out” others.
Too bad Tano is too much of a coward and an Obama shill to call his fellow leftists “un-American” for openly bragging that they plan to “drown out” other people.
Why are these teaparty people not given the same treatment as the codepinkers? Ya know, the minute they start their screaming, they get the polite bum’s rush from security.
Easy answer; because they’re not acting like the Code Pink and Obama Party protestors who went around violently disrupting town halls.
The problem here is the puppet Tano’s hypocrisy; in Tano’s mind, any objection, any criticism, anything other than complete and blind obedience to the Obama Party is a “disruption”. In contrast, Obama Party members can scream, throw things, and even violently attack conservatives, and Tano fully supports and endorses that. It’s like Pelosi’s screaming insistence that anyone who disagrees with her is a swastika-carrying Nazi, and Obama’s insistence that anyone who disagrees with him is a KKK racist.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — August 11, 2009 @ 12:59 am - August 11, 2009
And finally, it’s time to deal with the bigot Tano once and for all.
But of course, Pelosi and Hoyer did NOT say that disagreement on healthcare reform was unAmerican.
Why do you willfully mischaracterize what they say?
They said “Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American”.
But, as we see clearly, given that they endorse and support the SEIU, which openly brags that its members will, quote, “come out in strong numbers to drown out their voices,” what is obvious is that they do NOT consider it “un-American” to “drown out” opposing views when it’s coming from them and Barack Obama.
That makes it clear that it’s not the “drowning out”, it’s the disagreement with healthcare reform that is “un-American”.
Too bad your lies keep unraveling when facts are presented, Tano. It’s a testament to the absence of values and principles in your party that you, Pelosi, and Barack Obama lie as constantly as you do.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — August 11, 2009 @ 1:16 am - August 11, 2009
“what is obvious is that they do NOT consider it “un-American” to “drown out” opposing views ”
Seems like you missed the whole point here. The tea party people are NOT presenting their views. They are just chanting LIAR LIAR LIAR, or repeating bizarro slogans that they have recieved through their fillings. They are trying to SHUT DOWN the meeting by making noise. So, the SEIU folks are just saying, well, if you want to drown out the meeting, and just make noise, and thereby try to give the impression that “the people” are totally opposed to healthcare reform, then we are people too, and we can shout too, and we will drown out your chants and nonsense.
Mind you, I dont think this is all too swift. Sounds rather childish to me. But they are NOT trying to drown out reasoned discourse. They are trying to drown out the chanting thugs who are trying to shut down the meetings.
Comment by Tano — August 11, 2009 @ 2:28 am - August 11, 2009
Tano said: “So long as thats the way it turns out, we could be tolerant a bit and give them 10 seconds to scream their points.”
I think another ends-justify-the-means amoral Alinskyite has revealed himself.
As long as the liberal Senators (of both parties) are dominating a town-hall, along with their core of voters, ten seconds of grace may be shown to the Usually Silent Majority. How magnanimous of this ‘postpartisan’ administration.
Comment by Brendan In Philly — August 11, 2009 @ 3:59 am - August 11, 2009
In our democracy, we elect certain people to represent us. These people come back to meet the voters from time to time, to inform them of what is going on in Washington, and to listen to their concerns. Thats how we get an efficient representation under our democracy.
These “people” come back and hold “town hall” meetings packed with union thugs so they have a choir to preach to. When the Proles start demanding to participate, the thugs start throwing seasoned citizens around. Where in the ever loving f*ck is the “democracy” and “efficient representation” you’re on about? Explain to me how that works, smartass.
From Botox’s memo (http://tinyurl.com/nn3ec2)
You seriously want us to believe those “outside groups” (read Special Interests) are working for democracy?
Seriously, Tardo. What are you smoking?
Comment by ThatGayConservative — August 11, 2009 @ 4:11 am - August 11, 2009
And yet after all these posts, Tano can’t condemn any of the administrations purpleshirts, nor will he provide any documentation to back up his point. Why are we even arguing with this clown. He must be one of those killer cockroaches.
Comment by The Livewire — August 11, 2009 @ 6:37 am - August 11, 2009
Or you can make up your own sticker, like I did. COUNTING THE DAY UNTIL 2012.
Comment by PatriotMom — August 11, 2009 @ 7:15 am - August 11, 2009
Tardo and stupidbutt are pissy because some on the right are raising their voices; but they have no problem with Obama’s SEUI goons raising their fists.
Comment by V the K — August 11, 2009 @ 8:42 am - August 11, 2009
It also occurs to me that what goes on when tea-party patriots confront lying Obamacrats in a town hall forum is no more raucous than a typical meeting of Britain’s House of Commons. Is Britain’s Parliament anti-Democratic because back-benchers raise their voices in opposition?
Comment by V the K — August 11, 2009 @ 8:44 am - August 11, 2009
Tano makes an interesting point about whether one is permitted to disagree with the elected representative.
In the bureaucratic world of organized town meetings, there are agenda items and timed periods for public response.
I had no idea that town halls had devolved into a tightly controlled meeting run by parliamentary rules and with SEIU members as ad hoc Sergeants at Arms.
So, as I read Tano, an elected representative is in charge of determining the decorum, location and structure of the meeting.
Ergo, if your e-mails, phoners and letters have all been glossed over, going to a town hall is a waste of time, because your elected representative has decided not to listen to you.
So much for citizen participation. Also, why do the Congressmen need to take a break and come back to meet with constituents?
Comment by heliotrope — August 11, 2009 @ 9:39 am - August 11, 2009
Yep, Doofus Watch Alert is at CODE ORANGE!
I’m glad this post is getting so much attention, too!
Just make sure to buy the bumper sticker and display it proudly!
Comment by Bruce (GayPatriot) — August 11, 2009 @ 10:20 am - August 11, 2009
And the bigot Tano babbles into another trap.
The tea party people are NOT presenting their views. They are just chanting LIAR LIAR LIAR, or repeating bizarro slogans that they have recieved through their fillings.
So the bigot Tano says that every single person who disagrees with Pelosi and Obama is repeating “bizarro slogans that they have received through their fillings”.
So Tano makes it clear that Pelosi believes that everyone who disagrees with her is lying and is “un-American”.
So Tano believes the SEIU is justified in trying to “drown out” any and all dissent at these meetings.
This is why the polls keep dropping for him and his Obama. They’re just too dumb to realize that the rest of the country has caught on to their games of hypocritical stifling of dissent, demonizing their opponents, and calling everyone else a racist.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — August 11, 2009 @ 11:34 am - August 11, 2009
If this Obamacare is the best thing for the country since sliced bread, if it is going to give us great health insurance and great health care, why are it’s proponents having so much trouble selling it to the masses? The people who have actually read th bills, seem to be the most informed and the most aggitated with our representatives. And Obama trying to RUSH another bill through Congress has everyones senses magnified. We don’t want to be fooled again.
Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — August 11, 2009 @ 1:32 pm - August 11, 2009
“This is why the polls keep dropping for him and his Obama”
Thanks for sharing your hypothesis as to why public approval of Obama is now in the mid fifties.
Perhaps you can now share with us your explanation for why public approval of Republicans is in the mid-twenties.
Comment by Tano — August 11, 2009 @ 8:52 pm - August 11, 2009
Yes, and had Bush not been president, we might not be in the economic mess we’re in and maybe we wouldn’t be so mired in the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I think what Hoyer and Pelosi are commenting on people who come out and scream and yell at forums that exist to create a dialogue and get information from the people. I think conservatives are very disappointed that simply screaming communism and socialism doesn’t seem to work much any more.
Comment by Kevin — August 11, 2009 @ 10:20 pm - August 11, 2009
Thanks for sharing your hypothesis as to why public approval of Obama is now in the mid fifties.
LOL….and where did it start at, Tano?
Perhaps you can now share with us your explanation for why public approval of Republicans is in the mid-twenties.
Because the Republicans in Congress deserve their share of criticism.
What we’re seeing is what happens as people slowly realize that Obama is truly and completely a total incompetent and racist who believes that his skin color makes everything that he does right. Granted, we have several years of liberal brainwashing to overcome, but more and more Americans are recognizing, such as Obama’s tirade against white policemen, that Obama is really and truly a racist on the order of KKK Robert Byrd.
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Comment by North Dallas Thirty — August 12, 2009 @ 12:21 am - August 12, 2009
Tano: I think you are missing the point of what the people are doing. They’re yelling down congressmen who think they’re going to throw out talking points to the unclean masses. They’re letting them know up front that they know they’re full of shit and not representing the average citizen. As part of what little power they have, they’re raising a ruckus to send the message loud and clear that the insulated Beltway Boys don’t represent them and their thinking. People going to the meetings aren’t waiting for “dialogue”. They’re using the only forum they have at their disposal to send a message loud and clear that they’re pissed off, not just about the most recent health care stuff but everything that has been going on. By the way, “dialogue” to a liberal actually means “diatribe” where you listen while they complain about you and your ideas. It’s not working and the tides are changing. One can respect a President that stands firm while letting you know where he stands and what he thinks but this guy has done nothing but hide what he thinks and what he’s really doing and its becoming quite obvious.
Comment by Dave B — August 12, 2009 @ 4:22 am - August 12, 2009