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Why I Support Delaying Measure to Repeal Prop 8

Posted by GayPatriotWest at 6:15 pm - August 12, 2009.
Filed under: California politics,Gay Marriage,Gay Politics

For once, I agree with the leaders of “Equality California.”  In an e-mail today its Executive Director, Geoff Kors, after conducting outreach among various communities and listening to their members and supporters, wrote in an e-mail to its listserv that his group has decided to push off a ballot initiative to repeal Prop 8 until 2012.

After reviewing all the information, research and feedback from our coalition partners and the community-at-large and in view of our aggressive determination and dedication to win marriage back as soon as possible, we support committing our energy, resources and leadership to helping the community win a ballot initiative to restore marriage at the November 2012 election.

I think they’re very smart to wait for many of the reasons Kors outlines in his e-mail, including the time needed to organize, the expected demographics of the 2010 turnout.

Still, the one thing he doesn’t address (because if it did, it would require him to resign) is the needed leadership change of the various California groups which worked last fall to defeat Proposition 8 and would likely be spearheading the efforts to pass an initiative designed to repeal that Proposition.

While they’ve “met with the leadership of LGBT organizations that work in communities of color to find out what they think it will take to carry out a strategic effort to move voters in their communities,” there is no evidence from Kors’s letter (or my own research and observation) to indicate that hs group-or any other working to repeal Prop 8-has reached out to Republicans.  Indeed, when I called Vaishalee Raja, their Communications Director, she did not know what percentage of the newly-hired “18 field organizers that reflect the diversity of California” included any Republicans.

Given that 34.3% of Golden State voters are registered Republicans, 18 field organizers reflecting the diversity of the state would include six Republicans. (more…)

Conservatives Can Help Veto People’s Veto of Maine Gay Marriage

When I read that citizens in Maine were seeking to gather signatures to overturn the legislation passed by the elected representatives of the people of the Pine Tree State to recognize same-sex marriage, I hoped they would not gather the 55,087 signatures needed to place a “people’s veto” on the state ballot.  It did seem a large amount of signatures to gather in a state so small.  But, last month, leaders of the Stand for Marriage, a “coalition of Mainers who support the traditional definition of marriage” “delivered a stack of cartons holding petitions with more than 100,000 signatures to the Secretary of State’s office.”

While I believe the appropriate means for opponents would be the traditional republican method, working to defeat those representatives who voted for the legislation at the ballot box, these opponents have acted within the framework established by the state’s constitution.  That said, these folks have less to grouse about than did supporters of California’s Proposition 8.  The law recognizing gay marriage was passed by an elected legislature, signed by an elected governor, in a state which had never previously voted on the issue.

it was not as if courts had overturned the popular will.

All that said, 100,000 is a lot of signatures to gather in three months.  It shows that the Stand for Marriage folks have a good grassroots effort which will help them significantly this fall.  Without a marquee race (like President or Governor) on the state ballot, this referendum will hinge on turnout.

That is why it is imperative that those spearheading the movement to veto the people’s veto not repeat the mistakes made by the folks behind the “No on 8” effort last fall in the Golden State.  (more…)

Fred Phelps, Representative of the Democratic Party?

Posted by GayPatriotWest at 4:06 pm - August 12, 2009.
Filed under: Liberal Hypocrisy,Liberal Intolerance

Peruse the left-wing web-sites and you’ll see them making much of the “mean signs” and associated right-wing extremists at the various protests against the Democratic health care overhaul.

Lately, they’ve been dwelling on gun-toting William Kostric who showed up outside the President’s “townhall” meeting yesterday in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, with Chris Matthews even inviting him onto his MSNBC show “Hardball.”  While conservatives denounce the guy as “nuts,” the left is determined to portray him as representative of the right.

Okay, fine, I’ll play that game.  If they believe that extremist is representative of the GOP, then anti-gay nutbag and Democrat Fred Phelps is representative of the President’s party.

There are kooks on both sides, but somehow all too many liberal pundits and left-wing bloggers see such nutcases as representative of the GOP (and conservatives in general), but as aberrations on the left.

Left Incredulous at Rallies Against Big Government, for Freedom

If there’s one expression which explains the hysterical reaction of Democrats and their allies among left-wing bloggers and the liberal punditry to the growing grassroots protests against President Obama’s plans to increase the size of the government and limit our freedom, it’s the opening line of a recent Michelle Malkin column, “The activist Left can’t stand competition.”  It’s as if they believe they have a monopoly on protest and patriotic dissent.

When Obama won last fall, with increased Democratic majorities in both Houses of Congress, they thought that the demoralized would just roll over and play dead.  They did not expect nor do they get that Republicans and allied independents would express their frustration — and fears– about Democratic proposals as they have, by taking to the streets.  Only left-wingers, er, progressives, do that.  That’s how it’s been since the 1960s.  Hence, their need to discredit, denigrate and demonize what they do not understand.

But, they should understand these gatherings, indeed, the Obama team should understand their frustration better than most, given how their candidate was at pains, during the campaign, to plea for fiscal prudence in the wake of Bush Administration profligacy, promising a line-by-line review of the federal budget and a “net spending cut.”  It is the concern about the growing size of the federal government which, as Michael Barone writes today, which has become “the battle-line issue“:

And the tea party and health care protesters, in their often unsophisticated way, are raising an issue that seems to have become central to our politics: Should we vastly increase the size and scope of the federal government?

By suggesting in the campaign that he too was concerned about the growing size of the federal government, Obama helped convince wavering independents and even some Republicans upset about then-President George W. Bush’s failure to hold the line on domestic spending, to pull the lever for the Democrat.

Perhaps, the Obama team thought they could get away with this masquerade, that once elected, they could remove their masks, knowing that small government types aren’t likely to protest as do their statist, er, progressive, counterparts.  They forget that it was people protesting an intrusive national government which led to the birth of this nation.

We’re just following in the footsteps of those who tossed tea into Boston Harbor.

Obama Supporter Gets Opposition to Obamacare

Although having no remorse for supporting Barack Obama, Camille Paglia still manages to confess her “dismay bordering on horror at the amateurism of the White House apparatus for domestic policy“:

There is plenty of blame to go around. Obama’s aggressive endorsement of a healthcare plan that does not even exist yet, except in five competing, fluctuating drafts, makes Washington seem like Cloud Cuckoo Land. The president is promoting the most colossal, brazen bait-and-switch operation since the Bush administration snookered the country into invading Iraq with apocalyptic visions of mushroom clouds over American cities.

. . . .

I just don’t get it. Why the insane rush to pass a bill, any bill, in three weeks? And why such an abject failure by the Obama administration to present the issues to the public in a rational, detailed, informational way? The U.S. is gigantic; many of our states are bigger than whole European nations. The bureaucracy required to institute and manage a nationalized health system here would be Byzantine beyond belief and would vampirically absorb whatever savings Obama thinks could be made. And the transition period would be a nightmare of red tape and mammoth screw-ups, which we can ill afford with a faltering economy.

. . . .

Blaming obstructionist Republicans is nonsensical because Democrats control all three branches of government. It isn’t conservative rumors or lies that are stopping healthcare legislation; it’s the justifiable alarm of an electorate that has been cut out of the loop and is watching its representatives construct a tangled labyrinth for others but not for themselves.

Emphasis added.

In her post where she also skewers House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Paglia offers little love for the GOP.  As with anything by Paglia just read the whole thing.

She gets at the essence of the opposition.  With the Administration handling this in a ham-handed, haphazard manner, people fear they are being left out of an overhaul of a sector of society with which they are, by and large, satisfied.  Not just that, this reform is coming from a man, who as presidential candidate promised a new era of transparency, but is relying on back room deals and lobbyist support to craft the health care reform bill.

Paglia is right (and wise) to note that no final bill exists.  If Obama wishes to be true to the platform on which he ran, he will request that Congress recess once the final bill has been drafted and posted on the internet.  He would ask each Representative and Senator to hold townhall meetings advertised at least two weeks in advance to all their constituents.  In short, they wouldn’t vote on final passage until they’ve discussed the bill with the people they were elected to serve.

Yes, this will take a bit of time, but it is a major industry overhaul with far-reaching consequences.

It’s the Deficit Spending, Stupid!

Serving his last term in the United States Senate, Pennsylvania opportunist Arlen Specter observes, “There is more anger in America today than at any time I can remember.”

This might have something to with it–brought to us by a President who promised “a net spending cut,” but keeps proposing new ways to spend the people’s money (as well as that their children and grandchildren have yet to earn) and regulate their lives:

Reader Report from Alhambra Town Hall With Rep. Adam Schiff

Two of our readers, Leah and JuJu, attended the townhall Congressman Adam Schiff (D-California) held last night in Alhambra on health care.  Each had a different take on the turnout with Leah saying it was 3-4,000, but JuJu counting about half that.

Leah thought that roughly 60% of those there supported the President’s plan, yet notes “Looked like unions brought people in for the pro side. They had printed signs, our side was all handmade.”*  Seems to be a common theme of the sign.  Even the pro-ObamaCare signs saying “mean things” were pre-printed.  Hmmm. . . . and which one counts as Astroturf?

Congressman Schiff had assembled a panel of six to discuss health care reform.  All six, as Leah put it, extolled “the virtues of the plan; no one had anything negative to say about the plan. It was simply propaganda for the obamacare plan.”  Interesting that this Democrat didn’t include any critics.  Wonder if he’s even aware of what the serious critics have to say.

All the questions were filtered through a mediator, with some read from what people had written in.

Here are some of Leah’s pictures.  Interesting to note how many of these folks wore T-shirts and tank tops.  None seemed clad in Brooks Brothers attire.  Wonder if Ma’am Boxer will now consider her constituents’ concerns legitimate.  I mean, if they were well-dressed, they couldn’t have been sincere.



*This corresponds to what W.C.Varones observed at Democratic San Diego Rep Sue Davis’s “Townhall”:

So this is a “town hall” in Susan Davis’ idea of democracy.

Her “town hall,” which was kept secret from her constituents and the public until this morning (and even then advertised only to sympathetic groups), somehow managed to attract hundreds of Obama supporters with oddly identical pre-printed sign.

Glenn, who linked the above, offers, “I can see the appeal of a friendly crowd, but what does this really accomplish? Maybe a bit of positive local media, but just as likely some negative stuff as people complain. Is it just about protecting politicians’ fragile egos?

What Astroturf Looks Like

Posted by GayPatriotWest at 2:12 am - August 12, 2009.
Filed under: We The People

A clever protestor at the Alhambra Townhall.


(Via Reader Leah.)

Look who’s saying “mean things” about health care debate

Wonder if Julia Hall, daughter of Obama supporter Kathleen Manning Hall, was referring to signs like these when she asked President Obama about those signs saying “mean things“:


Received this from our reader Juju who snapped it outside Congressman Adam Schiff’s Townhall in Alhambra.  Commenting on the competing protest, she writes:

Nearly all of the signs of the Obots were pre-printed. They were handed out as union members filed in.

The signs of the conservatives were all homemade and much more creative.

Maybe creativity is a reflection of enthusiasm?

Signs handed out as union members filed in.  Hmmm . . . .  sounds like astroturf to me.

Why Barney Frank Ran for Congress

His drag career went bust.


Maybe that’s why the unhappy Congressman is so mean-spirited.  He just doesn’t look good in a dress.

(H/t Attila the Honey (potential blogress diva?) via the People’s Cube.)

FROM THE COMMENTS:  Jana writes, “Too bad he beclowns himself in a far more humiliating manner every day.”