With each passing day, the wisdom of the greatest domestic policy President of the Twentieth Century becomes increasingly manifest.
A number of conservative blogs have posted this audio of Ronald Reagan speaking out in 1961 against socialized medicine. At about the 2-minute mark, he describes the foot-in-the-door philosophy of a Congressman Furan, then proposing health care reform legislation, “If we can only break through and get our foot inside the door, then we can expand the program after that.”
A you consider that foot-in-the-door philosophy that neither President Obama nor any of his minions have disavowed the Democrat’s past advocacy of a single-payer system.
This is just too funny. The president who singlehandedly quadupled the national debt. Who intiated an era which, for the first time in American history, the middle class’s wealth became stagnent over more than a business cycle, while the wealthy got obscenely more wealthy.
But please, oh please – circulate this video far and wide. I will gladly help you. Lets set the record straight as to where the Republicans stand on Medicare – a bad idea that should never have been implemented.
Lets do away with it. Hey, thats the ticket!!! The rally cry for 2012. Death to Medicare!
please, please please, please, please
The president who singlehandedly quadupled the national debt.
I believe this one has been hammered home quite nicely, but I’ll also add “ with nothing but government waste“.
Who intiated an era which, for the first time in American history, the middle class’s wealth became stagnent over more than a business cycle, while the wealthy got obscenely more wealthy.
Actually, you have that confused with the years 1977 – 1980, during which the middle class groaned under the pressure of double-digit interest rates, massive inflation, and virtually nonexistent economic growth.
Then again, Tano, we wouldn’t expect you to know anything about that, given that those things only affect people who work and pay their bills. You and your Barack Obama do neither.
Lets do away with it. Hey, thats the ticket!!! The rally cry for 2012. Death to Medicare!
LOL…..given that Obama is already cutting Medicare, do you really think that will bother people?
Also, here’s how you explain it: “For those of you who are just starting out, you have a choice. You can continue to give the government almost 3% out of every paycheck for health care that you probably won’t get since it has already been cut and will continue to be cut to fund welfare for those who, unlike you, don’t work, or you can take that 3% and save it yourself, tax free.
For those of you who have paid into the system for at least half of your working life already, you also have a choice; you may continue to give the government almost 3% out of every paycheck for health care that you probably won’t get since it has already been cut and will continue to be cut to fund welfare for those who, unlike you, don’t work, or you can take that 3% and save it yourself, tax free. In addition, we will match your 3% with 3% for every year that you’ve already paid into the system.”
In short, people can choose to stay in Medicare, or they can choose to keep their money and manage their own healthcare.
You oppose that, don’t you, Tano? Of course you do, because you know that means a welfare case like yourself doesn’t have taxpayers from which to steal.
Yep there they go again 🙂
George W Bush was one of the best American Presidents for African Continent. This is following Hillary Clinton’s trip to Liberia and what American Aid means to Liberians
http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2009/08/liberia-it-could-be-paradise.html
Liberia It Could Be Paradise
Funny how everyone keeps linking that graph that was reproduced on the front page a few days ago LINK. I would think it would be bit of an embarrassment to y’all.
Unless you are forgetting that the big first red line – y’know, the one representing the biggest deficit – is for 2009. That is, fiscal year 2009. I.e. the budget that began with a presidential message to Congress in Feb. 2008, then fought over and negotiated througout 2008, and then came into effect Oct. 1 2008.
In other words, Bush’s last budget. And yeah, you can pin a tiny proportion on Obama for that fraction of the stimulus that will be spent before Oct. but basically it is a Bush budget.
SO why are you guys so proud of that? And what does to have to do with the indisputable fact that Reagan, who ran on the promise that his absurd snake-oil, supply-side economics, would balance the budget, actually quadrupuled the national debt in just 8 years?
Which, just to keep things in context, is a far greater percentage of increase in debt than anything that would happen under Obama, even in your worst case scenarios.
Unless you are forgetting that the big first red line – y’know, the one representing the biggest deficit – is for 2009. That is, fiscal year 2009. I.e. the budget that began with a presidential message to Congress in Feb. 2008, then fought over and negotiated througout 2008, and then came into effect Oct. 1 2008.
Indeed.
U.S. President Barack Obama yesterday (Thursday) outlined a the $3.94 trillion budget plan that includes a $1.75 trillion deficit in the current fiscal year ending Sept. 30, and that plans for a $1.17 trillion deficit for fiscal 2010.
The new U.S. president sent his fiscal 2009 budget blueprint to Congress yesterday.
Which he then signed a few weeks later.
On Wednesday, March 11th, Congress passed an appropriations package legislation rather than relying on a string of Continuing Resolutions (CR) to fund the federal government as it had for the past two years. President Obama later signed the $410 billion appropriations bill that will fund the government until September 30th. The provision is an increase of $31 billion or an eight percent increase from FY 2008 spending levels.
And why was that necessary?
Democrats defended waiting nearly five months after the fiscal year started to complete the remaining work rather than trying to cut a deal with Bush, and they portrayed consideration of the plan almost as a housekeeping chore.
Because……
The omnibus spending measure consists of the nine fiscal 2009 appropriations bills that mostly fund domestic agencies. Democrats chose not to finish the bills until Bush left office, because he threatened to veto them over their funding levels.
Were you educated on the Federal appropriations process, Tano, you would know that the Federal government hasn’t had an appropriations law in place in time for the Federal fiscal year to start since the 1940s. In these cases, Congress passes “continuing resolutions” to fund the Federal government until such time in the future as the appropriations bills can be passed.
In this case, your Obama Party, in control of Congress, did exactly that to DELAY the appropriations bill until after the election. Your Obama signed it, your Obama owns it.
It is no surprise to anyone that an outright liar like Obama is trying to blame Bush for an appropriations bill that quadrupled the deficit, despite the fact that Obama pushed it, that Obama endorsed it, and that Obama signed it. Obama has used his minority status for years to avoid responsibility for his actions, and this is just another example.
Of course, the reason he does it is because he knows that he has compliant fools like yourself, ignorant of the actual process and enthralled by his skin color, who are stupid enough to come on blogs like this and beclown yourself with your complete ignorance of the facts.
Two points ND30.
First, the Obama 1.75 trillion number is higher than comparable estimates from the Bush years because Obama implemented a series of more honest and transparant accounting: LINK
Second, The Wall Street Journal estimated the deficit for 2009 to be 1.2 trillion – that on Jan. 8 2009 – before Obama took office. LINK
So I dont think you could possibly blame him for at least 1.2 T, or if combined with the first point – not much at all, actually.
Which brings me to one more point. You quote;
“On Wednesday, March 11th, Congress passed an appropriations package legislation rather than relying on a string of Continuing Resolutions (CR) to fund the federal government as it had for the past two years. President Obama later signed the $410 billion appropriations bill that will fund the government until September 30th. The provision is an increase of $31 billion ”
Is that it? Are you blaming Obama for 31 billion dollars higher deficit?
OK. I’ll take it. What is that, 2% of the deficit?
Oh, to be fair – you should add the fraction of the stimulus that will be spent by Oct. So lets be clear here – I am not claiming that Obama is responsible for only 2% of the deficit. Its a bit more.
But the overwhelming big drop from 2008-2009 on that chart, is Bush’s fault. YOUR fault. You voted for him, I bet.
I think, Tano, you need a reminder of what you said.
That is, fiscal year 2009. I.e. the budget that began with a presidential message to Congress in Feb. 2008, then fought over and negotiated througout 2008, and then came into effect Oct. 1 2008.
In short, your attempt to spin by citing those sources about what Obama allegedly did merely makes more and more obvious how much of a lie you told in the first place when you claimed Obama did nothing.
Furthermore, Tano, you obviously didn’t read your own source.
Spending will grow this year by almost $622 billion. More than half of that growth will come from the Wall Street rescue fund and the federal takeover of mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Unemployment compensation will nearly double, to $79 billion from $43 billion last year. Nutrition assistance will surge to $50 billion from $39 billion.
But those figures likely understate the problem. The debt total doesn’t include the stimulus plan, estimated at $775 billion but likely to go higher as it winds through Congress. It assumes all of President George W. Bush’s tax cuts will expire on schedule in 2010, although Mr. Obama has promised to extend all of them except those affecting families earning more than $250,000. And it assumes that Congress will allow the alternative minimum tax to grow unchecked. The AMT went into effect in 1969 to ensure that the super wealthy pay income tax, but it is increasingly hitting the middle class. Extending the Bush tax cuts and holding the AMT at bay by linking it to inflation would add a further $761 billion in debt.
In short, you’re trying to blame Bush for trillions of dollars worth of things he didn’t sign. Obama signed them. But like the child Obama is, he whines and screams and refuses to take responsibility. He depends on people like you to lie for him and beclown yourself by making your complete lack of knowledge and facts obvious.
I wonder how much Axelrod is paying Tano.
This video of Ronaldo Magnus is one of my alltime faves. I was an extreme lib in the 80s and simply detested the man and will forever atone for not appreciating him while he was president. And a bit OT, Midnight Oil has always been one of my favorite bands. Listen to “Diesel and Dust.” Fabulous music, and M.O. was obsessed to the point of insanity with RR. Most 80s artists had RDS, but not to this extent.
RDS is alive and well and Tano is proof.
Peg,
So that means you are on board with his argument in this video, that Medicare is some commie plot and should never have happened (and, presumably, must be repealed ASAP)?
Tano, so may we assume that nothing will please you but a total Soviet-style system, where the Nomenklatura get sent abroad for treatment and the rest of us get rat-infested hellholes to rot in?
Whatever you’re getting paid to post here, you should give a refund.
Huh?
Dave, you gotta at least TRY to link your absurd rant to something that I might have said.
In this thread, on the issue of health care, all I seem to be arguing is that Ronald Reagan was horribly wrong for opposing Medicare, and I am challanging those who find favor with this video to state their views clearly on that issue.
I dare say that my opinion on Medicare is probably shared by upwards of 90% of the American people, at least. How you get from there to some supposed advocacy of Soviet systems is an issue best left for you to work out with your shrink.
#12 – “I dare say that my opinion on Medicare is probably shared by upwards of 90% of the American people, at least.”
Proof, please. Otherwise STFU.
Regards,
Peter H.
Asking Tano for proof is like asking Bill Clinton for fidelity.
You guys are funny. Love that comment by The Livewire about Clinton. Not sure how I found myself here, but for my 2 cents Tano is arguing a cause without merrit. And his comment that 90% of the American people is absurd. It’s even more absurd if you only include the legal residents.