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	<title>Comments on: MSM:  Defining Obamacare Protests by Their Worst Elements</title>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MFS,
Lets take one step at a time. You agree with me, and contra almost all rightwingers I have heard on this subject, that a public option will NOT mean the end of private insurance?
Only some of them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MFS,<br />
Lets take one step at a time. You agree with me, and contra almost all rightwingers I have heard on this subject, that a public option will NOT mean the end of private insurance?<br />
Only some of them?</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/08/17/msm-defining-obamacare-protests-by-their-worst-elements/comment-page-1/#comment-461454</link>
		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;My question is: why would you support it?&lt;/i&gt;

Because his little bronze Marxist god supports it. He needs no other reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>My question is: why would you support it?</i></p>
<p>Because his little bronze Marxist god supports it. He needs no other reason.</p>
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		<title>By: MFS</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/08/17/msm-defining-obamacare-protests-by-their-worst-elements/comment-page-1/#comment-461452</link>
		<dc:creator>MFS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^ I claim an exemption from &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Godwin&#039;s Law&lt;/a&gt; by stating that Corporatism was a feature common to all fascism not just the Nazis.

I yield back the balance of my time. ;-)

Best wishes,
-MFS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^ I claim an exemption from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law" rel="nofollow">Godwin&#8217;s Law</a> by stating that Corporatism was a feature common to all fascism not just the Nazis.</p>
<p>I yield back the balance of my time. <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Best wishes,<br />
-MFS</p>
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		<title>By: MFS</title>
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		<dc:creator>MFS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tano (#4):

It&#039;s really not that complex.  The word you missed in the quote was &lt;b&gt;big&lt;/b&gt;.  As in, only &lt;i&gt;&quot;the big insurance companies&quot; &lt;/i&gt;support Obamacare.

If the top ten percent of insurance giants understand that government intrusion will bankrupt most of their competitors, is their choice that strange?  Likewise, was anyone shocked that Walmart, seeing that this legislation would hurt Target and any other smaller competitors, not only signed on, but expressly said this was why they were doing so?

Deplorable? Yes. Suicidal? Not by a long shot.

Corporatism is a sinister distortion in the market. (And was an intergral part of fascism. BTW) So I can understand why free-marketeers and conservatives generally would treat it with scorn.

My question is: why would&lt;i&gt; you&lt;/i&gt; support it?

Best wishes,
-MFS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tano (#4):</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really not that complex.  The word you missed in the quote was <b>big</b>.  As in, only <i>&#8220;the big insurance companies&#8221; </i>support Obamacare.</p>
<p>If the top ten percent of insurance giants understand that government intrusion will bankrupt most of their competitors, is their choice that strange?  Likewise, was anyone shocked that Walmart, seeing that this legislation would hurt Target and any other smaller competitors, not only signed on, but expressly said this was why they were doing so?</p>
<p>Deplorable? Yes. Suicidal? Not by a long shot.</p>
<p>Corporatism is a sinister distortion in the market. (And was an intergral part of fascism. BTW) So I can understand why free-marketeers and conservatives generally would treat it with scorn.</p>
<p>My question is: why would<i> you</i> support it?</p>
<p>Best wishes,<br />
-MFS</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corrected: He&#039;s not a Republican.  

I don&#039;t remember these guys taking Pelosi for task for World Worker&#039;s Party and Socialist Organizations displaying their proganda at parades, much less the &quot;normal&quot; leftists making Bush into Hitler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corrected: He&#8217;s not a Republican.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t remember these guys taking Pelosi for task for World Worker&#8217;s Party and Socialist Organizations displaying their proganda at parades, much less the &#8220;normal&#8221; leftists making Bush into Hitler.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it ironic there is one member of Congress who used to be a KKK recruiter, and he&#039;s not a Democrat. 

Also, the nazi imagery is from Lyndon LaRouche supporters, not conservatives.  Go to LaRouche&#039;s website, stop harping on conservatives for it.  If anything these displays are from far leftists, not those on the right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it ironic there is one member of Congress who used to be a KKK recruiter, and he&#8217;s not a Democrat. </p>
<p>Also, the nazi imagery is from Lyndon LaRouche supporters, not conservatives.  Go to LaRouche&#8217;s website, stop harping on conservatives for it.  If anything these displays are from far leftists, not those on the right.</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Contrary to the propaganda of the left, the big insurance companies quietly support ObamaCare&#039;

The propaganda of the left???
I thought that the propaganda of the right (as explained at length on these pages very recently) has it that insurance companies are doomed to extinction under ObamaCare. Without a doubt.

So insurance companies are supporting their own extinction???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Contrary to the propaganda of the left, the big insurance companies quietly support ObamaCare&#8217;</p>
<p>The propaganda of the left???<br />
I thought that the propaganda of the right (as explained at length on these pages very recently) has it that insurance companies are doomed to extinction under ObamaCare. Without a doubt.</p>
<p>So insurance companies are supporting their own extinction???</p>
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		<title>By: DoorHold</title>
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		<dc:creator>DoorHold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The continuing blatant bias of the MSM just means they&#039;re pounding the final nails in their own coffin. Not a bad thing if ya ask me.

Liberals complaining about &quot;organizing&quot; and &quot;meanness&quot; reminds me of when they complain about conservatives and Republicans who display human frailties. &quot;But ... He believes in God ... How can he be unfaithful to his wife?&quot; It&#039;s OK for a liberal, say, Bill Clinton, since they are Godless and have no morals whatsoever -- But a CONSERVATIVE! Dammit!

That&#039;s their reasoning behind the complaints, not that thety believe it&#039;s wrong, but because it&#039;s not THEM doing it.

And here they are complaining, again, still, that someone else is doing exactly what they believe in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The continuing blatant bias of the MSM just means they&#8217;re pounding the final nails in their own coffin. Not a bad thing if ya ask me.</p>
<p>Liberals complaining about &#8220;organizing&#8221; and &#8220;meanness&#8221; reminds me of when they complain about conservatives and Republicans who display human frailties. &#8220;But &#8230; He believes in God &#8230; How can he be unfaithful to his wife?&#8221; It&#8217;s OK for a liberal, say, Bill Clinton, since they are Godless and have no morals whatsoever &#8212; But a CONSERVATIVE! Dammit!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s their reasoning behind the complaints, not that thety believe it&#8217;s wrong, but because it&#8217;s not THEM doing it.</p>
<p>And here they are complaining, again, still, that someone else is doing exactly what they believe in.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contrary to the propaganda of the left, the big insurance companies quietly support ObamaCare. Why? Simple. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.philkerpen.com/?q=node/281&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the individual mandates that require every person to purchase fully-loaded insurance policies is a gold mine&lt;/a&gt;. It&#039;s like the Government ordering everyone to go out and buy a Cadillac, Lexus, Lincoln, or BMW. The car companies would be delighted with such a plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contrary to the propaganda of the left, the big insurance companies quietly support ObamaCare. Why? Simple. <a href="http://www.philkerpen.com/?q=node/281" rel="nofollow">the individual mandates that require every person to purchase fully-loaded insurance policies is a gold mine</a>. It&#8217;s like the Government ordering everyone to go out and buy a Cadillac, Lexus, Lincoln, or BMW. The car companies would be delighted with such a plan.</p>
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		<title>By: heliotrope</title>
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		<dc:creator>heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can not win the death spiral blame game. I am tired of leftists who keep tossing Ann Coulter into the game as conservatism at its most vile.

If you have a gripe with Nazi imagery, take it to the person displaying it. At the same time, you might check your own closet for hypocrisy.

I think that the head tilt Obama does in his teleprompter reading looks a lot like Mussolini. From there, I ruminate on other Mussolini like characteristics he shares. Does that mean I want him gutted and strung up from a lamp post? Hardly.

This Obama as The Joker event has really uncovered the soft belly of leftist intolerance. They are reacting like the crazed imams who blew a gasket over the Danish cartoons. They issued death orders and all manner of bloody revenge. I wouldn&#039;t call crazed imams leftists. But I would call them extremists. Going after the rare Nazi symbolism at a tea party is extremism on parade. Do the leftists really think that there is an underground army of bigots just waiting to take up arms and close down Whole Foods and Starbucks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can not win the death spiral blame game. I am tired of leftists who keep tossing Ann Coulter into the game as conservatism at its most vile.</p>
<p>If you have a gripe with Nazi imagery, take it to the person displaying it. At the same time, you might check your own closet for hypocrisy.</p>
<p>I think that the head tilt Obama does in his teleprompter reading looks a lot like Mussolini. From there, I ruminate on other Mussolini like characteristics he shares. Does that mean I want him gutted and strung up from a lamp post? Hardly.</p>
<p>This Obama as The Joker event has really uncovered the soft belly of leftist intolerance. They are reacting like the crazed imams who blew a gasket over the Danish cartoons. They issued death orders and all manner of bloody revenge. I wouldn&#8217;t call crazed imams leftists. But I would call them extremists. Going after the rare Nazi symbolism at a tea party is extremism on parade. Do the leftists really think that there is an underground army of bigots just waiting to take up arms and close down Whole Foods and Starbucks?</p>
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