While I do admire your moxy for attempting to piece together an explanation for the Administration’s bewildering policy toward Honduras (which is more than can be said for the Administration itself which still has not answered a question as to its reasoning), I hope for their sake that if the press ever does ask the Secretary of State or president about why on earth they see it the way they do that their explanation is based at least more in fact than yours.

Please follow the links I have posted about the actual events in Honduras this summer, regroup, and then attempt a cogent rebuttal.

Tano, I would refer you to the above link for a little refresher on recent history! It should help clear up some of little misconceptions you have.

“The constitution expressly states in Article 239 that any president who seeks to amend the constitution and extend his term is automatically disqualified and is no longer president. There is no express provision for an impeachment process in the Honduran constitution. But the Supreme Court’s unanimous decision affirmed that Mr. Zelaya was attempting to extend his term with his illegal referendum. Thus, at the time of his arrest he was no longer—as a matter of law, as far as the Supreme Court was concerned—president of Honduras.”

 ”I succeeded Mr. Zelaya under the Honduran constitution’s order of succession (our vice president had resigned before all of this began so that he could run for president). This is and has always been an entirely civilian government. The military was ordered by an entirely civilian Supreme Court to arrest Mr. Zelaya. His removal was ordered by an entirely civilian and elected Congress. To suggest that Mr. Zelaya was ousted by means of a military coup is demonstrably false.”

In the end it is a Honduran issue! Our President has been very heavy handed against a small democratically elected representative republic as they try to hold to the constitutional duties, while turning a blind eye Iranian mullahs as they slaughtered their own people. He has an interesting way of seeing things!

I dont understand your point. Zelaya was not trying to run for a second term. He was trying to call a convention to amend the constitution.

“President Zelaya owes it to the people of Honduras to step down amicably..”

Its fine for you, or anyone, to have such an opinion. I might even agree. But by phrasing it that way, you seem to accept the rather obvious fact that the presidency is still his to step down from, and that his removal from the presidency is null and void, and his removal from the country a crime – far worse of a crime against the Constitution and the rule of law than anything he did.

Your argument falls apart before it ever starts! The oath of our elected office obliges elected officials to protect and defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I would suppose most oaths of office follow along similar lines. The Honduran Constitution allows for one 4 year term in office. No re-election, no do over.

President Zelaya owes it to the people of Honduras to step down amicably and allow the Constitution to govern not the blessed.

There is NOTHING in the Honduran Constitution that allows the military to arrest and deport a president. There is NOTHING that allows either the SC or the military to summarily declare the office of the Presidency vacant.

If the President broke the law, there are Constiutional means, as we have here, to remove him from office – mechanisms that ensure some level of due process. None of these were followed.

This is not only the opinion of the State Dept, and the President, and/or Castro and Chavez, but the opinion of the conservative governments of Canada, Mexico, Columbia – in fact EVERY government in the hemisphere.

Since our president sure as hell isn’t.

Zelaya was an incompetent and corrupt president and is STILL planning to turn Honduras into another Venezuela. Despite the State Dept. saying that he has agreed to the San Jose Accord, he has admitted in at least two recent interviews (one right after the meeting with Hillary!) that he plans to continue with the constitutional assembly. I wrote about it and have a video. It’s in Spanish of course, but I’ve translated parts of it. The man is trying to destroy this country and he is getting help from the whole world!

Zelaya and the lies that you don’t hear in English

Zelaya was an incompetent and corrupt president and is STILL planning to turn Honduras into another Venezuela. Despite the San Jose Accord, he has admitted in at least two recent interviews (one right after the meeting with Hillary!) that he plans to continue with the constitutional assembly. I wrote about it and have a video. It’s in Spanish of course, but I’ve translated parts of it. The man is trying to destroy this country and he is getting help from the whole world!

Zelaya and the lies that you don’t hear in English

It is obvious Iran and North Korea have nothing to worry about. Paper Tiger comes to mind!!

The whole matter gives me pause. If the President is so eager to support a dictator (in spirit) as he does an end around the national constitution of Honduras what does that mean for our Constitution? What sort of end runs are taking place as we speak?

More than one, I am quite sure!

Where’s boob and the other bleeding gashes to defend this?