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		<title>By: Gene in Pennsylvania</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/09/watching-the-presidents-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-475133</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene in Pennsylvania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.ceausescu.org/ceausescu_media/ultima-audio.html
Hear for yourself.</description>
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Hear for yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene in Pennsylvania</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/09/watching-the-presidents-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-475132</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene in Pennsylvania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to try an Obama tactic an Obama way with words.....
When I heard the heckle from the crowd of Congressmen I flashed back to the last speech by Romanian dictator Nicolae Ceausescu. He was telling the revolting masses how great a dictator he was and to go home in peace, he ordered them to obey. A rumble went throughtout the crowd and they finally began shouting back, shaking their fists at the detached dictator. Ceausescu was stunned, expecting rousing cheeers for him not against him. Finally a state police member comes to his side and tells him it was time to escape, they couldn&#039;t guarantee his safety anymore. The couple took too  long. Waiting until the next morning. And the revolution was well under way. They were captured and it was over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to try an Obama tactic an Obama way with words&#8230;..<br />
When I heard the heckle from the crowd of Congressmen I flashed back to the last speech by Romanian dictator Nicolae Ceausescu. He was telling the revolting masses how great a dictator he was and to go home in peace, he ordered them to obey. A rumble went throughtout the crowd and they finally began shouting back, shaking their fists at the detached dictator. Ceausescu was stunned, expecting rousing cheeers for him not against him. Finally a state police member comes to his side and tells him it was time to escape, they couldn&#8217;t guarantee his safety anymore. The couple took too  long. Waiting until the next morning. And the revolution was well under way. They were captured and it was over.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitchell Blatt</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/09/watching-the-presidents-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-474922</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitchell Blatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone said imagine what would happen if a Dem heckled Bush like in 2005?

You sound just like the Kos.  Indeed, the Kos ran that same story.

Apparently the GOP would launch a resolution against him or something and force him to resign.

Why don&#039;t you just stick with the facts at hand, and say it was wrong for a Repub to say it, instead of, it would be wrong if a Dem did?

The con bloggers do this a lot too, and often it gets annoying.

I mean lets stick with the facts: Joe Wilson said something he shouldn&#039;t have said, Barack said a whole lot of shit he shouldn&#039;t have said, Barack is pushing bad policy, so in conclusion, we should vote against Barack&#039;s bad policy and possibly criticize Joe Wilson (one individual rep).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone said imagine what would happen if a Dem heckled Bush like in 2005?</p>
<p>You sound just like the Kos.  Indeed, the Kos ran that same story.</p>
<p>Apparently the GOP would launch a resolution against him or something and force him to resign.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you just stick with the facts at hand, and say it was wrong for a Repub to say it, instead of, it would be wrong if a Dem did?</p>
<p>The con bloggers do this a lot too, and often it gets annoying.</p>
<p>I mean lets stick with the facts: Joe Wilson said something he shouldn&#8217;t have said, Barack said a whole lot of shit he shouldn&#8217;t have said, Barack is pushing bad policy, so in conclusion, we should vote against Barack&#8217;s bad policy and possibly criticize Joe Wilson (one individual rep).</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/09/watching-the-presidents-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-474919</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wesley: Perfect :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wesley: Perfect <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/09/watching-the-presidents-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-474888</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I’ll gladly defend him. Nor should he have apologized&lt;/i&gt;

Yo, man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’ll gladly defend him. Nor should he have apologized</i></p>
<p>Yo, man.</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/09/watching-the-presidents-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-474845</link>
		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 06:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Um, Tano, did I or any of the commenters defend the heckler? &lt;/blockquote&gt;I&#039;ll gladly defend him. Nor should he have apologized</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Um, Tano, did I or any of the commenters defend the heckler? </p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ll gladly defend him. Nor should he have apologized</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/09/watching-the-presidents-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-474839</link>
		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 06:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And we should remember that Barack Obama and the Obama Party called screaming at the President and calling him a liar &quot;saying truth to power&quot;.

One would think Barack Obama would try to earn some credibility himself before trying to demand it of others. But then again, when you live in a world of racists like &quot;Tano&quot; in which your skin color means you don&#039;t have to follow the law or pay taxes, you do such patently stupid and hypocritical things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And we should remember that Barack Obama and the Obama Party called screaming at the President and calling him a liar &#8220;saying truth to power&#8221;.</p>
<p>One would think Barack Obama would try to earn some credibility himself before trying to demand it of others. But then again, when you live in a world of racists like &#8220;Tano&#8221; in which your skin color means you don&#8217;t have to follow the law or pay taxes, you do such patently stupid and hypocritical things.</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
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		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 06:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paraphrasing the speech:

Obama: Republicans lie, republicans lie, republicans lie, republicans lie

Republican: You lie!

Democrats: how DARE you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paraphrasing the speech:</p>
<p>Obama: Republicans lie, republicans lie, republicans lie, republicans lie</p>
<p>Republican: You lie!</p>
<p>Democrats: how DARE you!</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/09/watching-the-presidents-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-474832</link>
		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 06:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Imagine if a Democrat had yelled out “you lie” to a Republican president addressing Congress.
Time to earn some credibility guys…&lt;/blockquote&gt;No, Democrats dont have the courage or the character to do it themselves. so THEY give their tickets to code pink demonstrators to come in and do it for them.

liars AND cowards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Imagine if a Democrat had yelled out “you lie” to a Republican president addressing Congress.<br />
Time to earn some credibility guys…</p></blockquote>
<p>No, Democrats dont have the courage or the character to do it themselves. so THEY give their tickets to code pink demonstrators to come in and do it for them.</p>
<p>liars AND cowards.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/09/watching-the-presidents-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-474822</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 06:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, I thought about watching the speech and got to the point when the cabinet entered. Then I realised I had an update to iTunes 9 available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, I thought about watching the speech and got to the point when the cabinet entered. Then I realised I had an update to iTunes 9 available.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/09/watching-the-presidents-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-474821</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 06:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I agree it was in very poor taste.&lt;/i&gt;

No more in poor taste than the shitty attacks on Republicans by the POTUS. Folks are fed up with these lame-ass straw men too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I agree it was in very poor taste.</i></p>
<p>No more in poor taste than the shitty attacks on Republicans by the POTUS. Folks are fed up with these lame-ass straw men too.</p>
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		<title>By: Wesley M.</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/09/watching-the-presidents-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-474790</link>
		<dc:creator>Wesley M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 04:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me see if I understand President Obama&#039;s speech...

Health care is an devastating crisis that is destroying our nation, but if you already have insurance, nothing will change, except that it will cost you less, and if you have Medicare, you won&#039;t lose a single benefit, and if you&#039;re among the 30–45 million people who don&#039;t have health insurance, we&#039;ll give it to you through the Public Option, which will essentially be paid for by the government finally eliminating all fraud and waste from Medicare and Medicaid, but as mentioned, without eliminating a single benefit from either program, and any worries or fears that someone might have about these health reform bills are simply a product of evil scare tactics for vile partisan gain, because Republicans want to kill health reform and maintain the status quo, even though the health reform bills actually include many Republican ideas, which is strange, because President Obama says he&#039;s still waiting for &quot;serious&quot; Republican ideas, which the Republicans apparently don&#039;t have but which somehow are already in the health reform bills, because the president is a postpartisan uniter, even when he&#039;s blaming irresponsible Republican spending on the Iraq War and tax cuts for that $1 trillion deficit he says he inherited, and let&#039;s not talk about that other $8 trillion in deficits from his own spending over the next 10 years, because we&#039;re here to talk about health reform.

Did I miss anything?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me see if I understand President Obama&#8217;s speech&#8230;</p>
<p>Health care is an devastating crisis that is destroying our nation, but if you already have insurance, nothing will change, except that it will cost you less, and if you have Medicare, you won&#8217;t lose a single benefit, and if you&#8217;re among the 30–45 million people who don&#8217;t have health insurance, we&#8217;ll give it to you through the Public Option, which will essentially be paid for by the government finally eliminating all fraud and waste from Medicare and Medicaid, but as mentioned, without eliminating a single benefit from either program, and any worries or fears that someone might have about these health reform bills are simply a product of evil scare tactics for vile partisan gain, because Republicans want to kill health reform and maintain the status quo, even though the health reform bills actually include many Republican ideas, which is strange, because President Obama says he&#8217;s still waiting for &#8220;serious&#8221; Republican ideas, which the Republicans apparently don&#8217;t have but which somehow are already in the health reform bills, because the president is a postpartisan uniter, even when he&#8217;s blaming irresponsible Republican spending on the Iraq War and tax cuts for that $1 trillion deficit he says he inherited, and let&#8217;s not talk about that other $8 trillion in deficits from his own spending over the next 10 years, because we&#8217;re here to talk about health reform.</p>
<p>Did I miss anything?</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 03:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; So, please, Tano, once again, read the posts before weighing in. &lt;/blockquote&gt;Dan, I just discovered in another thread that it helps Tano&#039;s reading problems about 1/3 of the time if you put something in &lt;strong&gt;*bold stars*&lt;/strong&gt;.  Little kids are into that sort of thing, I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> So, please, Tano, once again, read the posts before weighing in. </p></blockquote>
<p>Dan, I just discovered in another thread that it helps Tano&#8217;s reading problems about 1/3 of the time if you put something in <strong>*bold stars*</strong>.  Little kids are into that sort of thing, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashpenaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashpenaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did I miss it? I was watching The Dish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did I miss it? I was watching The Dish.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven E. Kalbach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven E. Kalbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL!  Didn&#039;t they NYT and CBS try to push similar poll as absolute proof just a mere few months ago?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL!  Didn&#8217;t they NYT and CBS try to push similar poll as absolute proof just a mere few months ago?</p>
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		<title>By: B. Daniel Blatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>B. Daniel Blatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, Tano, did I or any of the commenters defend the heckler?  I agree it was in very poor taste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, Tano, did I or any of the commenters defend the heckler?  I agree it was in very poor taste.</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/09/watching-the-presidents-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-474708</link>
		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK guys, here are the numbers you all have been waiting for...&lt;a href=&quot;http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/09/09/cnn-poll-two-thirds-of-speech-watchers-favor-obamas-proposals/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LINK&lt;/a&gt;

{&lt;em&gt;From Tano&#039;s link, &quot;The audience for the speech appears to be more Democratic than the U.S. population as a whole. Because of this, the results may favor Obama simply because more Democrats than Republicans tune into the speech.&quot;  From a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/09/has-obama-ever-persuaded/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;post I penned earlier today:
&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
my sense is that while Obama may get a &lt;strong&gt;momentary bounce&lt;/strong&gt; (in the polls) from tonight’s speech, the numbers will not hold and we will not see a significant increase in support for a radical overhaul of our healthcare system.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Emphasis added.  In fact, Stephen Green said the same thing in the post above (&quot;brief spike in polls&quot;).  So, please, Tano, once again, read the posts before weighing in.  Thanks, Dan&lt;/em&gt;]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK guys, here are the numbers you all have been waiting for&#8230;<a href="http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/09/09/cnn-poll-two-thirds-of-speech-watchers-favor-obamas-proposals/" rel="nofollow">LINK</a></p>
<p>{<em>From Tano&#8217;s link, &#8220;The audience for the speech appears to be more Democratic than the U.S. population as a whole. Because of this, the results may favor Obama simply because more Democrats than Republicans tune into the speech.&#8221;  From a <a href="http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/09/has-obama-ever-persuaded/" rel="nofollow">post I penned earlier today:<br />
</a></p>
<blockquote><p>
my sense is that while Obama may get a <strong>momentary bounce</strong> (in the polls) from tonight’s speech, the numbers will not hold and we will not see a significant increase in support for a radical overhaul of our healthcare system.</p></blockquote>
<p>Emphasis added.  In fact, Stephen Green said the same thing in the post above (&#8220;brief spike in polls&#8221;).  So, please, Tano, once again, read the posts before weighing in.  Thanks, Dan</em>]</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/09/watching-the-presidents-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-474707</link>
		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me play Dan&#039;s favorite game.

Imagine if a Democrat had yelled out &quot;you lie&quot; to a Republican president addressing Congress.
Time to earn some credibility guys....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me play Dan&#8217;s favorite game.</p>
<p>Imagine if a Democrat had yelled out &#8220;you lie&#8221; to a Republican president addressing Congress.<br />
Time to earn some credibility guys&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitchell Blatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitchell Blatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And when he was called a liar, he seemed to try to convince himself.  He said illegal aliens wouldn&#039;t be covered, then a Rep. shouted, &quot;That&#039;s a lie,&quot; and Barack said in a self-assured voice, &quot;It&#039;s not true.&quot;

You can also see Biden shaking his head.  Even Biden knows Barack is failing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0PqBiNUyqU&amp;feature=email</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And when he was called a liar, he seemed to try to convince himself.  He said illegal aliens wouldn&#8217;t be covered, then a Rep. shouted, &#8220;That&#8217;s a lie,&#8221; and Barack said in a self-assured voice, &#8220;It&#8217;s not true.&#8221;</p>
<p>You can also see Biden shaking his head.  Even Biden knows Barack is failing.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0PqBiNUyqU&amp;feature=email" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0PqBiNUyqU&amp;feature=email</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mitchell Blatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitchell Blatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He freakin sucks at politics.  &lt;i&gt;&quot;Hmmm...  My policy of demonizing opponents hasn&#039;t worked all these months, so I guess I&#039;m going to say they are &#039;against health care reform at all costs&#039; and they use &#039;lies plain and simple&#039; and I&#039;ll quote someone who isn&#039;t elected to any government position on any level to represent them.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Good job with that.  I can already see that all--including those within your own party--who were skeptical about government-run non-option healthcare are now going to support you because you convinced them with your eloquent line about &quot;lies plain and simple.&quot;

They&#039;d do a better job if Barack hid under a rock for two months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He freakin sucks at politics.  <i>&#8220;Hmmm&#8230;  My policy of demonizing opponents hasn&#8217;t worked all these months, so I guess I&#8217;m going to say they are &#8216;against health care reform at all costs&#8217; and they use &#8216;lies plain and simple&#8217; and I&#8217;ll quote someone who isn&#8217;t elected to any government position on any level to represent them.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Good job with that.  I can already see that all&#8211;including those within your own party&#8211;who were skeptical about government-run non-option healthcare are now going to support you because you convinced them with your eloquent line about &#8220;lies plain and simple.&#8221;</p>
<p>They&#8217;d do a better job if Barack hid under a rock for two months.</p>
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