Obama’s Health Care Speech No Game-Changer
Nate Silver may well be the Michael Barone of the left. He has a gift for analyzing polls and pulling out the significant nuggets to show trends in popular opinion. He finds that the Washington Post makes a mess in its analysis of its own poll on health care reform.
And even as Silver finds indications of support for the public option, Jennifer Rubin observes
Obama made no statistically measurable difference in the health-care debate. Before the speech, Americans (not voters, as other polls generally measure) opposed ObamaCare by a margin of 50-45 percent. Afterward, by a margin of 48-46 percent. (The margin of error is +/- 3 percent). Fifty-four percent say the more they learn the less they like it. (The poll numbers for ObamaCare are virtually identical in that regard to those for HillaryCare.)
Emphasis added. In short, the speech didn’t change many minds. Maybe Obama really does lack the power to persuade.
Even former Bill Clinton aide George Stephanapolous finds that the President’s Speech aas no game-changer. Like Rubin, he notes that voters have barely budged on the issue.
Yeah, he got a modest bounce, but that’s pretty much what conservative bloggers, including yours truly, were predicting.
UPDATE: Support for Health Care Plan Falls Back To Pre-Speech Levels.
UP-UPDATE: Gallup and Rasmussen: No Bump for Obama on Health Care
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Let’s HOPE(tm) so! I think Americans are increasingly on to his dishonest ways.
Comment by American Elephant — September 14, 2009 @ 5:20 pm - September 14, 2009
Day after tomorrow is Wednesday, does that mean we are going to get another joint session of Congress speech about health care? hehe
Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — September 14, 2009 @ 5:27 pm - September 14, 2009
8 months in and he’s lost the country. What happened to “bringing us all together”? Lies. He never intended to govern for all the people. Lies.
Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — September 14, 2009 @ 5:28 pm - September 14, 2009
Great analysis by one of my favorites Speaker Newt.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/09/13/gingrich-explains-how-obama-incited-wilsons-you-lie-outburst
Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — September 14, 2009 @ 5:35 pm - September 14, 2009
It is only the ubalanced and those being paid by the DNC to convince people that what they think is in the proposal is not there.
In that Facebook discussion I have just been called twisted for pointing out that the VA are using a booklet that is intended for Vets to contemplate suicide, or to use the DNR when not necessary. I had seen stories about how the VA apply the Living Will and the DNR…. be afraid… very afraid….
Comment by thestraightaussie — September 14, 2009 @ 5:58 pm - September 14, 2009
Hence why we are seeing the charge of racism by the usual crowd on the Left. Sorry, it won’t work. I opposed nationalizing health care during Clinton’s presidency and my mind hasn’t changed just because the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue is biracial. Reforms I’m willing to discuss, but not another government boondoggle.
Comment by John — September 14, 2009 @ 5:59 pm - September 14, 2009
Gee, I thought the only reputable pollster was Rasmussen!?!
Except they found a 7 point bump in approval for Obamacare, from 44 to 51.
Lets let that sink in. A majority of Americans, according to Rasmussen, support Obamacare.
Y’know, I dont think you would really understand that if you relied on the right-wing blogosphere for your news.
Oh, and FWIW, CBS found a 12 pt. bump in approval for Obama on health care after the speech.
Comment by Tano — September 14, 2009 @ 6:13 pm - September 14, 2009
“8 months in and he’s lost the country.”
And lets see what else the polls find.
Personal approval of Obama – 63%
Job approval – 54% (yeah, that is one point higher than the percentage of votes he got last Nov.).
And for dear ol’ Gene this amounts to losing the country.
Comment by Tano — September 14, 2009 @ 6:15 pm - September 14, 2009
Our subconscious remembers what the conscious doesn’t, we tried central governmental planning of health care before!
How well did that work out?
Here is the story of the PHS!
It’s been called a really bad idea by the left, or something like that.
David
Comment by LifeTrek — September 14, 2009 @ 7:26 pm - September 14, 2009
hmmm ahh whaa was that the DNC? hehe
Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — September 14, 2009 @ 8:45 pm - September 14, 2009
#8 [Citation Needed]
Comment by ThatGayConservative — September 15, 2009 @ 12:46 am - September 15, 2009
Your source for all manner of poll data : LINK
Read ‘em all.
Just realized I missed the new CNN poll. Obama job approval back up to 58!!!
One wonders – is it a backlash against the August crazies, or speech-bounce or both? Or something else?
Comment by Tano — September 15, 2009 @ 1:04 am - September 15, 2009
While we are on the subject of polls, lets check in with the doctors, and see what they think of the public option. LINK
Comment by Tano — September 15, 2009 @ 1:25 am - September 15, 2009
actually, Tano in #12, it’s likely an oversampling of Democrats, something for which CNN polls are notorious.
Comment by B. Daniel Blatt — September 15, 2009 @ 1:30 am - September 15, 2009
#7 glad some of the lefites are using Rasmussen….
today, Tuesday, Rasmussen now shows Obamacare has dropped to pre joint session of Congress speech, levels. 52% OPPOSE! Sweet!
So the big Obama push lasted less than a WEEK! Way to go Mr President! Ask for more free tv time. Bore us somemore.
Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — September 15, 2009 @ 8:50 pm - September 15, 2009
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/september_2009/health_care_reform
Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — September 15, 2009 @ 8:53 pm - September 15, 2009