Comments on: Of New Jersey and Nutjobs http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/17/of-new-jersey-and-nutjobs/ The Internet home for American gay conservatives. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:54:59 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Pat http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/17/of-new-jersey-and-nutjobs/comment-page-1/#comment-479158 Pat Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:19:49 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=16436#comment-479158 I lived in NJ for almost all of my almost 45 years (except for a 7 year stint in Maryland). Yes, we do have our share of corruption. I live in a county where the parties try to outcorrupt each other, and they're both winning. I am very appreciative of efforts by Chris Christie, the Republican candidate, to root out a lot of the corrupt politicians. Unfortunately, many persons, including Steve Lonegan, his primary opponent, have ethical concerns regarding Christie. I am always skeptical about these types of polls, and the conclusions one can reach from them. For example, what does it mean that 32% believe the Bush had prior knowledge of 9/11? It could mean that some of those actually believe Bush was in part of the plot. But how many believe that Bush had knowledge of intelligence that there may have been a plot.* And depending on the wording of the birther question, the results may be similarly inconclusive. *This reminds me when one of the airplanes in flight was bombed by terrorists about 20 years ago (Lockerbee?). Our government had intelligence that there may have been such a plot, and even warned State Dept. workers, many of whom elected not to board that flight, but did not warn the general public. While our government may have had prior knowledge, there was no conspiracy on the part of our government to bomb the plane. As for the Hitler references, it was wrong when it was done to Bush, and it is just as wrong when it is done to Obama. Patrick J. Sime I lived in NJ for almost all of my almost 45 years (except for a 7 year stint in Maryland). Yes, we do have our share of corruption. I live in a county where the parties try to outcorrupt each other, and they’re both winning.

I am very appreciative of efforts by Chris Christie, the Republican candidate, to root out a lot of the corrupt politicians. Unfortunately, many persons, including Steve Lonegan, his primary opponent, have ethical concerns regarding Christie.

I am always skeptical about these types of polls, and the conclusions one can reach from them. For example, what does it mean that 32% believe the Bush had prior knowledge of 9/11? It could mean that some of those actually believe Bush was in part of the plot. But how many believe that Bush had knowledge of intelligence that there may have been a plot.* And depending on the wording of the birther question, the results may be similarly inconclusive.

*This reminds me when one of the airplanes in flight was bombed by terrorists about 20 years ago (Lockerbee?). Our government had intelligence that there may have been such a plot, and even warned State Dept. workers, many of whom elected not to board that flight, but did not warn the general public. While our government may have had prior knowledge, there was no conspiracy on the part of our government to bomb the plane.

As for the Hitler references, it was wrong when it was done to Bush, and it is just as wrong when it is done to Obama.

Patrick J. Sime

]]> By: Tano http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/17/of-new-jersey-and-nutjobs/comment-page-1/#comment-479078 Tano Fri, 18 Sep 2009 04:40:49 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=16436#comment-479078 My favorite finding in the NJ poll was that 5% of the people who think that Obama is the Anti-Christ voted for him nonetheless. My favorite finding in the NJ poll was that 5% of the people who think that Obama is the Anti-Christ voted for him nonetheless.

]]> By: MFS http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/17/of-new-jersey-and-nutjobs/comment-page-1/#comment-478973 MFS Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:06:19 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=16436#comment-478973 At core, I think it's just a basic mistrust of the media and of the culture at large. Having lived in New Jersey for several years, I can attest to both the staggering corruption and feelings of helplessness by your work-a-day folks. That's not an excuse, mind you. Just an observation. We can all shake our heads in wonder at the opinion polls where a plurality of blacks think AIDS and crack were invented by the CIA. But post-Tuskegee, I can at least see where they are coming from. Best wishes, -MFS At core, I think it’s just a basic mistrust of the media and of the culture at large.

Having lived in New Jersey for several years, I can attest to both the staggering corruption and feelings of helplessness by your work-a-day folks.

That’s not an excuse, mind you. Just an observation. We can all shake our heads in wonder at the opinion polls where a plurality of blacks think AIDS and crack were invented by the CIA. But post-Tuskegee, I can at least see where they are coming from.

Best wishes,
-MFS

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