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		<title>By: The_Livewire</title>
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		<dc:creator>The_Livewire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven,

It&#039;s been my personal experience that small unions are better focused than large ones, but the laws to &#039;help&#039; unions don&#039;t help them.

For example, with arbitration, the company can break the contract, and the employees have to comply with the broken rule, until it&#039;s resolved in arbitration.  Clear up until the day the arbitration is done, the employer can go &#039;oops&#039; and fix the practice, no harm, no foul.  Meanwhile the small union is out legal fees, time, etc.

Between things like that and the AFL/CIO&#039;s &#039;non-compete&#039; clause, I lost respect for the &#039;big unions&#039; long before the SEIU became (in)famous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been my personal experience that small unions are better focused than large ones, but the laws to &#8216;help&#8217; unions don&#8217;t help them.</p>
<p>For example, with arbitration, the company can break the contract, and the employees have to comply with the broken rule, until it&#8217;s resolved in arbitration.  Clear up until the day the arbitration is done, the employer can go &#8216;oops&#8217; and fix the practice, no harm, no foul.  Meanwhile the small union is out legal fees, time, etc.</p>
<p>Between things like that and the AFL/CIO&#8217;s &#8216;non-compete&#8217; clause, I lost respect for the &#8216;big unions&#8217; long before the SEIU became (in)famous.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven E. Kalbach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven E. Kalbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 00:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have any issues with small local unions; I do however, have problems with large national unions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have any issues with small local unions; I do however, have problems with large national unions.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonicfrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonicfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, things have gotten so bad with the unions, even the Mafia doesn&#039;t want anything to do with them!  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, things have gotten so bad with the unions, even the Mafia doesn&#8217;t want anything to do with them!  <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: thestraightaussie</title>
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		<dc:creator>thestraightaussie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He sounds like the person who should be President.... he has the right stuff.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He sounds like the person who should be President&#8230;. he has the right stuff&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
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		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Probally because he is strongly pro union.&lt;/blockquote&gt;You mean hes Mafia???&lt;blockquote&gt;You folks don’t like that.&lt;/blockquote&gt;No. No we DON&#039;T like criminals or corruption. Thats why we get rid of it while you promote it. &lt;blockquote&gt;
Of course if you change your stance on such issues, you might get some votes!&lt;/blockquote&gt;Yes, that enormous 12% of Americans who still are in unions. 

Actually, a great many union workers DO vote Republican. Its just the corrupt/criminal leadership that is devoutly Democrat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Probally because he is strongly pro union.</p></blockquote>
<p>You mean hes Mafia???<br />
<blockquote>You folks don’t like that.</p></blockquote>
<p>No. No we DON&#8217;T like criminals or corruption. Thats why we get rid of it while you promote it.<br />
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Of course if you change your stance on such issues, you might get some votes!</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, that enormous 12% of Americans who still are in unions. </p>
<p>Actually, a great many union workers DO vote Republican. Its just the corrupt/criminal leadership that is devoutly Democrat.</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce,

This is the second time in a few days you have made what seems to be a very dishonest charge. I say dishonest because (and please correct me if I am wrong here) as the owner of this site, you surely have access to the logs - it wouldn&#039;t take you more than 5 seconds to check IP addresses to not only see that gillie and I are not the same person, but you could probably figure out where we live as well.

So whats up with this? Are you purposely misleading your readers so as to get in a few shots, given that you have no answer to the specific issues we raise? Don&#039;t your readers deserve better of you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce,</p>
<p>This is the second time in a few days you have made what seems to be a very dishonest charge. I say dishonest because (and please correct me if I am wrong here) as the owner of this site, you surely have access to the logs &#8211; it wouldn&#8217;t take you more than 5 seconds to check IP addresses to not only see that gillie and I are not the same person, but you could probably figure out where we live as well.</p>
<p>So whats up with this? Are you purposely misleading your readers so as to get in a few shots, given that you have no answer to the specific issues we raise? Don&#8217;t your readers deserve better of you?</p>
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		<title>By: B. Daniel Blatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>B. Daniel Blatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex, thanks for the good word; I enjoyed meeting you as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, thanks for the good word; I enjoyed meeting you as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce (GayPatriot)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce (GayPatriot)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it hilarious that &quot;gillie&quot; and &quot;Tano&quot; pop up at exactly the same time to comment.  C&#039;mon guys.... give us a break that you aren&#039;t the same person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it hilarious that &#8220;gillie&#8221; and &#8220;Tano&#8221; pop up at exactly the same time to comment.  C&#8217;mon guys&#8230;. give us a break that you aren&#8217;t the same person.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex in Denver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex in Denver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unrelated to this post: Dan, I enjoyed meeting you in Denver a Couple weeks back.  I hope you&#039;ll make it back again soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unrelated to this post: Dan, I enjoyed meeting you in Denver a Couple weeks back.  I hope you&#8217;ll make it back again soon!</p>
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		<title>By: Sonicfrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonicfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, speaking of the Hannity show last night,  &lt;a href=&quot;http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=news/local&amp;id=7020050&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;look at the coverage of the event&lt;/a&gt;.... amazing!  Google it. It&#039;s the same spin everywhere. It might have been better to have focused on THE REASON hannity was there in the first place, but hey, what do I know. I&#039;m just a guy who no longer watches the news. And you wonder why the news industry is dying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, speaking of the Hannity show last night,  <a href="http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=news/local&amp;id=7020050" rel="nofollow">look at the coverage of the event</a>&#8230;. amazing!  Google it. It&#8217;s the same spin everywhere. It might have been better to have focused on THE REASON hannity was there in the first place, but hey, what do I know. I&#8217;m just a guy who no longer watches the news. And you wonder why the news industry is dying.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonicfrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonicfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who lives in Fresno (yes, I admit it  ;-)  )   I have long admired Juan&#039;s independent spirit. He&#039;s gone against his party many times in his long career. Yet only now has he been punished for it. The Dems that currently rule are certainly a vindictive bunch.

Another that has suffered the wrath of the nasgul is Nicole Parra, another.  she got &lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.latimes.com/2008/aug/19/local/me-parra19&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kicked out of her office&lt;/a&gt; for not voting with the party line on the 2008 budget.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Assembly Speaker Karen Bass, widely known as a nice person, flexed some muscle Monday: She punished the sole Assembly Democrat who refused to vote Sunday evening for a state spending plan drafted by fellow Democrats.

Bass (D-Los Angeles) ordered Assemblywoman Nicole Parra of Hanford out of her fifth-floor Capitol office and into an office building across the street where legislative staffers work.

&quot;They wanted us to have everything packed up by 4 p.m.,&quot; said Parra&#039;s chief of staff, Derek Chernow, as he ripped packing tape to seal a box of office supplies.

Parra, who is in her last few months in the Assembly, said she didn&#039;t vote for the budget because it was not paired with a water bond to pay for dams to ease water supply troubles in her agricultural district. She said she warned Assembly leaders weeks ago that she wouldn&#039;t vote for a budget unless it also improved water delivery.

&quot;I knew I would be punished,&quot; she said in the hallway outside the Assembly chamber. &quot;I don&#039;t regret it. I would do it again. I&#039;m still hopeful that we can get a vote on a water bond and therefore we can get a budget resolved. But it was a drill yesterday. We didn&#039;t even have the votes.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Note why she didn&#039;t vote for the budget.... WATER.  She wanted to improve California&#039;s water infrastructure. And this was last year. I wonder if the West Side drought as seen on Hannity yesterday would be happening if she would have made progress. 

So, you ask, if water wasn&#039;t important to the legislature,  just what was?

&lt;blockquote&gt;In other Assembly business Monday, two measures to restrict the use of chemicals in food containers and wrapping, among the most heavily lobbied of the year and previously passed by the Senate, were defeated. ...

Also on Monday, the Senate passed measures that would:

* Allow Riverside County to build and operate four carpool lanes as toll lanes on Interstate 15. The measure, AB 1954 by Assemblyman Kevin Jeffries (R-Lake Elsinore), goes back to the Assembly for final approval.

* Make it easier for farm workers to unionize with a two-part ballot they can fill out privately. AB 2386 by Assembly Speaker Emeritus Fabian Nuñez (D-Los Angeles) passed on a 23-15 vote and goes back to the Assembly for final action. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ah yes, our state government at work. And you wonder why California is SOOOOO ef&#039;d up!

PS. And, in case anyone missed it, the legislature seems perfectly happy to consider &lt;a href=&quot;http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/09/action-on-nfl-stadium-project-waiver-delayed.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;waiving environmental laws when it sees fit&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Facing stiff resistance from environmentalists, state Senate leaders today sidelined plans to grease the skids for construction of a professional football stadium in the city of Industry that was being fast-tracked through the Legislature.

    A day after the measure, ABX3 81, passed the Assembly, Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg (D-Sacramento) said he wants to try, in the coming weeks, to mediate an agreement that addresses the environmental impact of the 75,000-seat stadium proposed by billionaire Ed Roski.

The legislation would have exempted the stadium project from environmental laws that are the basis of a pending lawsuit by the city of Walnut.

    &quot;Because I see the obvious merit in the proposed stadium development in the city of Industry — the creation of up to 18,000 jobs, the economic development for the area, and the tax revenue for the local and state governments — I am willing to use the full force of my office to commence negotiations in an attempt to settle the litigation in this matter,&quot; Steinberg wrote.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In the meantime, some cities here in the Valley that rely on farming are experiencing unemployment rates of over 40% and the farming industry, a revenue generator many magnitudes greater than a stadium even with an NFL team, will suffer even further when the water behind Friant Dam &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fresnobee.com/local/story/1626872.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;is forced to be released&lt;/a&gt; due to environmental lawsuits, leaving even less water available for the region.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who lives in Fresno (yes, I admit it  <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   )   I have long admired Juan&#8217;s independent spirit. He&#8217;s gone against his party many times in his long career. Yet only now has he been punished for it. The Dems that currently rule are certainly a vindictive bunch.</p>
<p>Another that has suffered the wrath of the nasgul is Nicole Parra, another.  she got <a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2008/aug/19/local/me-parra19" rel="nofollow">kicked out of her office</a> for not voting with the party line on the 2008 budget.</p>
<blockquote><p>Assembly Speaker Karen Bass, widely known as a nice person, flexed some muscle Monday: She punished the sole Assembly Democrat who refused to vote Sunday evening for a state spending plan drafted by fellow Democrats.</p>
<p>Bass (D-Los Angeles) ordered Assemblywoman Nicole Parra of Hanford out of her fifth-floor Capitol office and into an office building across the street where legislative staffers work.</p>
<p>&#8220;They wanted us to have everything packed up by 4 p.m.,&#8221; said Parra&#8217;s chief of staff, Derek Chernow, as he ripped packing tape to seal a box of office supplies.</p>
<p>Parra, who is in her last few months in the Assembly, said she didn&#8217;t vote for the budget because it was not paired with a water bond to pay for dams to ease water supply troubles in her agricultural district. She said she warned Assembly leaders weeks ago that she wouldn&#8217;t vote for a budget unless it also improved water delivery.</p>
<p>&#8220;I knew I would be punished,&#8221; she said in the hallway outside the Assembly chamber. &#8220;I don&#8217;t regret it. I would do it again. I&#8217;m still hopeful that we can get a vote on a water bond and therefore we can get a budget resolved. But it was a drill yesterday. We didn&#8217;t even have the votes.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Note why she didn&#8217;t vote for the budget&#8230;. WATER.  She wanted to improve California&#8217;s water infrastructure. And this was last year. I wonder if the West Side drought as seen on Hannity yesterday would be happening if she would have made progress. </p>
<p>So, you ask, if water wasn&#8217;t important to the legislature,  just what was?</p>
<blockquote><p>In other Assembly business Monday, two measures to restrict the use of chemicals in food containers and wrapping, among the most heavily lobbied of the year and previously passed by the Senate, were defeated. &#8230;</p>
<p>Also on Monday, the Senate passed measures that would:</p>
<p>* Allow Riverside County to build and operate four carpool lanes as toll lanes on Interstate 15. The measure, AB 1954 by Assemblyman Kevin Jeffries (R-Lake Elsinore), goes back to the Assembly for final approval.</p>
<p>* Make it easier for farm workers to unionize with a two-part ballot they can fill out privately. AB 2386 by Assembly Speaker Emeritus Fabian Nuñez (D-Los Angeles) passed on a 23-15 vote and goes back to the Assembly for final action. </p></blockquote>
<p>Ah yes, our state government at work. And you wonder why California is SOOOOO ef&#8217;d up!</p>
<p>PS. And, in case anyone missed it, the legislature seems perfectly happy to consider <a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/09/action-on-nfl-stadium-project-waiver-delayed.html" rel="nofollow">waiving environmental laws when it sees fit</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Facing stiff resistance from environmentalists, state Senate leaders today sidelined plans to grease the skids for construction of a professional football stadium in the city of Industry that was being fast-tracked through the Legislature.</p>
<p>    A day after the measure, ABX3 81, passed the Assembly, Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg (D-Sacramento) said he wants to try, in the coming weeks, to mediate an agreement that addresses the environmental impact of the 75,000-seat stadium proposed by billionaire Ed Roski.</p>
<p>The legislation would have exempted the stadium project from environmental laws that are the basis of a pending lawsuit by the city of Walnut.</p>
<p>    &#8220;Because I see the obvious merit in the proposed stadium development in the city of Industry — the creation of up to 18,000 jobs, the economic development for the area, and the tax revenue for the local and state governments — I am willing to use the full force of my office to commence negotiations in an attempt to settle the litigation in this matter,&#8221; Steinberg wrote.</p></blockquote>
<p>In the meantime, some cities here in the Valley that rely on farming are experiencing unemployment rates of over 40% and the farming industry, a revenue generator many magnitudes greater than a stadium even with an NFL team, will suffer even further when the water behind Friant Dam <a href="http://www.fresnobee.com/local/story/1626872.html" rel="nofollow">is forced to be released</a> due to environmental lawsuits, leaving even less water available for the region.</p>
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		<title>By: gillie</title>
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		<dc:creator>gillie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;maybe some kickbacks&quot;
Why not!  Its the liberal fringe benefit.  
We all have a card + secret handshake.  This gives us cheaper cigarettes, free garbage pickup and all you can eat at any OCB.  

Join the Fun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;maybe some kickbacks&#8221;<br />
Why not!  Its the liberal fringe benefit.<br />
We all have a card + secret handshake.  This gives us cheaper cigarettes, free garbage pickup and all you can eat at any OCB.  </p>
<p>Join the Fun!</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You folks don’t like that.
Of course if you change your stance on such issues, you might get some votes!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And maybe some kickbacks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You folks don’t like that.<br />
Of course if you change your stance on such issues, you might get some votes!</p></blockquote>
<p>And maybe some kickbacks?</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;While the percentage of Americans identifying as Democrats has been in steady decline since President Obama’s inauguration, the number of Republicans has remained virtually unchanged.&quot;

Except in the Fox poll you linked to in the previous post. Dems back at 42%, where they were in Feb. Republicans down to 31%, from 35 in early Aug.

[&lt;em&gt;Um, Tano, do you know how to read polls, that&#039;s how Fox weighted the the sample, not the determination it made of the relative strength of the parties.  --Dan&lt;/em&gt;]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;While the percentage of Americans identifying as Democrats has been in steady decline since President Obama’s inauguration, the number of Republicans has remained virtually unchanged.&#8221;</p>
<p>Except in the Fox poll you linked to in the previous post. Dems back at 42%, where they were in Feb. Republicans down to 31%, from 35 in early Aug.</p>
<p>[<em>Um, Tano, do you know how to read polls, that's how Fox weighted the the sample, not the determination it made of the relative strength of the parties.  --Dan</em>]</p>
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		<title>By: gillie</title>
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		<dc:creator>gillie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probally because he is strongly pro union.

You folks don&#039;t like that.
Of course if you change your stance on such issues, you might get some votes!</description>
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<p>You folks don&#8217;t like that.<br />
Of course if you change your stance on such issues, you might get some votes!</p>
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