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		<title>By: The Absurd Report &#187; A new Perotista movement? By: Michael Barone</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/18/will-perot-voters-determine-outcome-in-2010-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-484425</link>
		<dc:creator>The Absurd Report &#187; A new Perotista movement? By: Michael Barone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 11:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] disdain they express not only for Democratic politicians but for Republican politicians as well. Dan Blatt of the Gay Patriot blog has some interesting thoughts on whether we are seeing something similar to the movement that [...]</description>
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		<title>By: GayPatriot &#187; Standing Firm for Smaller Government Will Help GOP Win Perot Voters</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayPatriot &#187; Standing Firm for Smaller Government Will Help GOP Win Perot Voters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] voters&#8221; (those particularly concerned about the exploding federal debt) to decide the 2010 &#8212; and possibly the 2012 &#8212; election that I would chance upon a Gallup poll showing that Americans are more likely than [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] voters&#8221; (those particularly concerned about the exploding federal debt) to decide the 2010 &#8212; and possibly the 2012 &#8212; election that I would chance upon a Gallup poll showing that Americans are more likely than [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 16:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now if Republicans actually believed in spending less and drastically cutting government, I&#039;d have someone to vote for.  But we all know better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now if Republicans actually believed in spending less and drastically cutting government, I&#8217;d have someone to vote for.  But we all know better.</p>
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		<title>By: Wells</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 13:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ketchikan: If Perot managed to get you to start reading and finding out what has been happening in public policy, then despite the fact that (overall) his effect on our country was negative, in your case he was able to do some real good. I&#039;d love to be proved wrong here-- I&#039;d love for the Perot movement to have created a groundswell of people who are educated about the need for a balanced budget, and realistic about whether a third party candidate will succeed. 

@SI: You&#039;re the voter I&#039;m worried about. I don&#039;t know which liberals and conservatives are both making fun of you (socially or in the media or on blogs?) but they both seem to agree that you helped elect Bill Clinton. Instead of lashing out, maybe you should react like the other perot people writing above and take what lessons you can from the experience. You say you also voted for President Bush, and President Obama. I&#039;m assuming that you regret one or both of those votes. And who are you voting for for lesser offices? Are you voting in the primaries? That&#039;s how you shape what Republican and Democrat means. Are you voting for a face on TV or the underlying political philosophies that CNN desperately avoids reporting on? 

We&#039;ve all been suckers at one point or another. Did anyone expect Mark Sanford to melt down like he did? Or, if you&#039;re a democrat, what about &quot;Mr. Clean&quot; aka Gov Spitzer? Did even President Obama&#039;s opponents expect him to govern this far left, this fast, and with this many corruption scandals? Let alone his supporters. 

We all have something to learn, we all make mistakes. If you learn from them, take your lumps and try to be smarter next time, then you&#039;re on the right track. If you lash out and turn bitter because of your own lapses in judgement, then you&#039;re on the wrong track. Plain and simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ketchikan: If Perot managed to get you to start reading and finding out what has been happening in public policy, then despite the fact that (overall) his effect on our country was negative, in your case he was able to do some real good. I&#8217;d love to be proved wrong here&#8211; I&#8217;d love for the Perot movement to have created a groundswell of people who are educated about the need for a balanced budget, and realistic about whether a third party candidate will succeed. </p>
<p>@SI: You&#8217;re the voter I&#8217;m worried about. I don&#8217;t know which liberals and conservatives are both making fun of you (socially or in the media or on blogs?) but they both seem to agree that you helped elect Bill Clinton. Instead of lashing out, maybe you should react like the other perot people writing above and take what lessons you can from the experience. You say you also voted for President Bush, and President Obama. I&#8217;m assuming that you regret one or both of those votes. And who are you voting for for lesser offices? Are you voting in the primaries? That&#8217;s how you shape what Republican and Democrat means. Are you voting for a face on TV or the underlying political philosophies that CNN desperately avoids reporting on? </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve all been suckers at one point or another. Did anyone expect Mark Sanford to melt down like he did? Or, if you&#8217;re a democrat, what about &#8220;Mr. Clean&#8221; aka Gov Spitzer? Did even President Obama&#8217;s opponents expect him to govern this far left, this fast, and with this many corruption scandals? Let alone his supporters. </p>
<p>We all have something to learn, we all make mistakes. If you learn from them, take your lumps and try to be smarter next time, then you&#8217;re on the right track. If you lash out and turn bitter because of your own lapses in judgement, then you&#8217;re on the wrong track. Plain and simple.</p>
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		<title>By: AST</title>
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		<dc:creator>AST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 05:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s too bad that Perot turned out to be irrational, because the rational part of him made a lot of sense.  It seems that Democrats don&#039;t much care about the weirdness or bad behavior of their candidates, but conservatives do and so have fewer candidates who meet their standards, and fewer still who prove to be what they claim to be.  

I think that&#039;s why no single conservative has emerged as a leader of the opposition to  the current reckless spending by Obama and Congress.  It&#039;s insane that theological differences should divide us but that&#039;s what Huckabee is determined to do by playing populist/progressive views against Romney.  Romney, on the other hand, doesn&#039;t exactly have a clean record on health care reform having compromised with liberals in MA to try to contain costs.   McCain, Thompson, Giuliani are all out as viable candidates, let alone leaders. 

Who will be able to bring us together and lead a strong movement against the crazies who now control Congress and the White House.  Pawlenty?  Maybe.  Certainly not Huckabee, who is a warmed over Jimmy Carter/Bill Clinton opportunist without the warmth.  Romney is capable, but also lacks personal warmth.   

I&#039;m looking.  There are several governors and congress persons who seem good, but I would have thought Mark Sanford was one of those just months ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s too bad that Perot turned out to be irrational, because the rational part of him made a lot of sense.  It seems that Democrats don&#8217;t much care about the weirdness or bad behavior of their candidates, but conservatives do and so have fewer candidates who meet their standards, and fewer still who prove to be what they claim to be.  </p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s why no single conservative has emerged as a leader of the opposition to  the current reckless spending by Obama and Congress.  It&#8217;s insane that theological differences should divide us but that&#8217;s what Huckabee is determined to do by playing populist/progressive views against Romney.  Romney, on the other hand, doesn&#8217;t exactly have a clean record on health care reform having compromised with liberals in MA to try to contain costs.   McCain, Thompson, Giuliani are all out as viable candidates, let alone leaders. </p>
<p>Who will be able to bring us together and lead a strong movement against the crazies who now control Congress and the White House.  Pawlenty?  Maybe.  Certainly not Huckabee, who is a warmed over Jimmy Carter/Bill Clinton opportunist without the warmth.  Romney is capable, but also lacks personal warmth.   </p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking.  There are several governors and congress persons who seem good, but I would have thought Mark Sanford was one of those just months ago.</p>
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		<title>By: BryanS</title>
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		<dc:creator>BryanS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 04:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you misunderstand Wisconsin politics if you call it a red state. Perot would certainly have done a bit better here due to Wisconsin&#039;s history of La Follette (though of the progressive political strain). I have to agree, though, that Feingold is certainly sounding awfully moderate these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you misunderstand Wisconsin politics if you call it a red state. Perot would certainly have done a bit better here due to Wisconsin&#8217;s history of La Follette (though of the progressive political strain). I have to agree, though, that Feingold is certainly sounding awfully moderate these days.</p>
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		<title>By: ketchikan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ketchikan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 04:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a Perot voter.  Got involved with the UNITED WE STAND group AFTER he pulled out of the race and before he got back in. Except for voting I had been politically inactive and very ignorant of government.  Perot did a great favor by educating many of us re government excesses.  Have done a great deal of self education since that election.  Did not vote for him 2nd time.  But as a result have learned that my values and beliefs of what America is about put me firmly in the conservative camp.  Am now an ACTIVE participant in our country&#039;s affairs.  Thank you Ross Perot.  (PS the people who attended the UNITED WE STAND  meetings were equally from the left and the right, there was not a &quot;ding a ling&quot; in the group, all were upset with the direction of government.)

I cried when Clinton won, but I do not for a second regret my Perot vote because without his willingness to educate I wonder how many more years would have gone by before I became policitally aware. ( It would be interesting now to go back and listen to the Perot speeches and see what I think of them in light of all the knowledge I have gained over the intervening years.)

I agree with your premise that those people who are at the same place the UNITED WE STAND  group were back then might have a big impact in 2010.  But they will need someone who is willling to educate them, speak to them and put in the full force of time and money toward an effort they already believe in but don&#039;t understand  enough about to support a particular canidate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a Perot voter.  Got involved with the UNITED WE STAND group AFTER he pulled out of the race and before he got back in. Except for voting I had been politically inactive and very ignorant of government.  Perot did a great favor by educating many of us re government excesses.  Have done a great deal of self education since that election.  Did not vote for him 2nd time.  But as a result have learned that my values and beliefs of what America is about put me firmly in the conservative camp.  Am now an ACTIVE participant in our country&#8217;s affairs.  Thank you Ross Perot.  (PS the people who attended the UNITED WE STAND  meetings were equally from the left and the right, there was not a &#8220;ding a ling&#8221; in the group, all were upset with the direction of government.)</p>
<p>I cried when Clinton won, but I do not for a second regret my Perot vote because without his willingness to educate I wonder how many more years would have gone by before I became policitally aware. ( It would be interesting now to go back and listen to the Perot speeches and see what I think of them in light of all the knowledge I have gained over the intervening years.)</p>
<p>I agree with your premise that those people who are at the same place the UNITED WE STAND  group were back then might have a big impact in 2010.  But they will need someone who is willling to educate them, speak to them and put in the full force of time and money toward an effort they already believe in but don&#8217;t understand  enough about to support a particular canidate.</p>
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		<title>By: S.I.</title>
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		<dc:creator>S.I.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 02:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I voted for Perot (twice), Bush2 (twice), and Obama (once)...and all I hear from the left is laughter (ie &quot;thanks for voting Perot!!!&quot;)..and all I hear from the right is derision (&quot;way to go bonehead!!!!&quot;)

and all I can say is: &quot;you can all go f*** yourselves!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I voted for Perot (twice), Bush2 (twice), and Obama (once)&#8230;and all I hear from the left is laughter (ie &#8220;thanks for voting Perot!!!&#8221;)..and all I hear from the right is derision (&#8220;way to go bonehead!!!!&#8221;)</p>
<p>and all I can say is: &#8220;you can all go f*** yourselves!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Perot voter/De Facto Republican</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perot voter/De Facto Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 02:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one Oregon Perot voter who has become a De facto Republican. This is way too serious now for any protest voting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one Oregon Perot voter who has become a De facto Republican. This is way too serious now for any protest voting.</p>
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		<title>By: toad</title>
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		<dc:creator>toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The interesting thing is not Ross Perot or some other third party candidate but the issue Perot raised.  If someone(s) on the Republican side would/could  emphasize it  it in the same way that Perot did, it could cost the Democrats dearly in 2010.  

Right now polling and focus groups put things close between Dems and Reps. It only takes a few percent of the &quot;swing&quot; voters to win in these conditions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The interesting thing is not Ross Perot or some other third party candidate but the issue Perot raised.  If someone(s) on the Republican side would/could  emphasize it  it in the same way that Perot did, it could cost the Democrats dearly in 2010.  </p>
<p>Right now polling and focus groups put things close between Dems and Reps. It only takes a few percent of the &#8220;swing&#8221; voters to win in these conditions.</p>
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		<title>By: Kendall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kendall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perot voters were not about anti-free trade - or at least no-one I knew who voted for Perot was interested in that aspect.  It was all about fiscal prudence.

Yes Perot was a spoiler that year who got Clinton elected.  But you are all assuming another such candidate will be found - I think voters are a lot less likely to be drawn off to a third party remembering that experience, or else Ron Paul would have had a better turn than he did.  The main point of the article stands, that many such voters are interested now in candidates that exhibit fiscal prudence and the lockstep nature of the candidates from the states in question leaves a lot of them very vulnerable, even if someone attempts to fund a spoiler candidate.  You can&#039;t just &quot;create&quot; a Perot out of thin air and have him be believable or have any effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perot voters were not about anti-free trade &#8211; or at least no-one I knew who voted for Perot was interested in that aspect.  It was all about fiscal prudence.</p>
<p>Yes Perot was a spoiler that year who got Clinton elected.  But you are all assuming another such candidate will be found &#8211; I think voters are a lot less likely to be drawn off to a third party remembering that experience, or else Ron Paul would have had a better turn than he did.  The main point of the article stands, that many such voters are interested now in candidates that exhibit fiscal prudence and the lockstep nature of the candidates from the states in question leaves a lot of them very vulnerable, even if someone attempts to fund a spoiler candidate.  You can&#8217;t just &#8220;create&#8221; a Perot out of thin air and have him be believable or have any effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fully agree with American Elephant and believe this is the job that Glenn Beck has been groomed for--to agitate against both parties and then promote a third party candidate. Many will follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully agree with American Elephant and believe this is the job that Glenn Beck has been groomed for&#8211;to agitate against both parties and then promote a third party candidate. Many will follow.</p>
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		<title>By: Liberty Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberty Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Republicans have to embrace a non-establishment candidate. (Something of a non-career politician -- someone who has done other things in his or her life).

A populist, libertarian-leaning candidate. A veteran would be welcome, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Republicans have to embrace a non-establishment candidate. (Something of a non-career politician &#8212; someone who has done other things in his or her life).</p>
<p>A populist, libertarian-leaning candidate. A veteran would be welcome, too.</p>
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		<title>By: RM3 Frisker FTN</title>
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		<dc:creator>RM3 Frisker FTN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read Joe Klein&#039;s book &quot;Primary Colors&quot; - a novel in name only, really a work of non-fiction, names changed to protect the guilty &amp; dishonest. 

Ross Perot was a false flag presidential candidate, when Bill Clinton was running against Bush Sr and later Dole. 

Dean Barkley was a false flag senatorial candidate when Al Franken was running against Minnesota Senator Coleman. 

I have no doubt that Team Obama will find and promote a false flag presidential candidate in 2012. I predict Huckabee will be the 2012 false flag candidate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read Joe Klein&#8217;s book &#8220;Primary Colors&#8221; &#8211; a novel in name only, really a work of non-fiction, names changed to protect the guilty &amp; dishonest. </p>
<p>Ross Perot was a false flag presidential candidate, when Bill Clinton was running against Bush Sr and later Dole. </p>
<p>Dean Barkley was a false flag senatorial candidate when Al Franken was running against Minnesota Senator Coleman. </p>
<p>I have no doubt that Team Obama will find and promote a false flag presidential candidate in 2012. I predict Huckabee will be the 2012 false flag candidate.</p>
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		<title>By: Boots</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the &#039;Perot&#039; effect has the effect of strengthening the Republicans in the upcoming races, it will be for the good.  If it has the effect of drawing conservative votes to a 3rd party, that would be a disaster and give Obama another term.  The conservatives need to take control of the Republican party and run candidates that this year&#039;s tea party patriots can and will support.  Even if we have to do as John McCain&#039;s mother suggested, and &quot;hold your nose and vote&quot;.  Everyone needs to be made aware of the downside of the &#039;Perot&#039; effect and not get rolled by it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the &#8216;Perot&#8217; effect has the effect of strengthening the Republicans in the upcoming races, it will be for the good.  If it has the effect of drawing conservative votes to a 3rd party, that would be a disaster and give Obama another term.  The conservatives need to take control of the Republican party and run candidates that this year&#8217;s tea party patriots can and will support.  Even if we have to do as John McCain&#8217;s mother suggested, and &#8220;hold your nose and vote&#8221;.  Everyone needs to be made aware of the downside of the &#8216;Perot&#8217; effect and not get rolled by it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which brings up the question, again:  What is a Republican?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which brings up the question, again:  What is a Republican?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Daniel,

Your post is mostly about voting patterns, which I don&#039;t know much about, but it is interesting non-the-less.

I did notice that you made a mistake in the first paragraph, where you call California, Oregon etc. &quot;Red&quot; states.  I think you mean &quot;Blue&quot; states in the current usage of color/ideology.

OT, it is interesting that &quot;Red&quot; means conservative, when it used to mean communist.  I can&#039;t tell why communist was &quot;Red&quot; in the first place.  I bet there is a story there somewhere.

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<p>Your post is mostly about voting patterns, which I don&#8217;t know much about, but it is interesting non-the-less.</p>
<p>I did notice that you made a mistake in the first paragraph, where you call California, Oregon etc. &#8220;Red&#8221; states.  I think you mean &#8220;Blue&#8221; states in the current usage of color/ideology.</p>
<p>OT, it is interesting that &#8220;Red&#8221; means conservative, when it used to mean communist.  I can&#8217;t tell why communist was &#8220;Red&#8221; in the first place.  I bet there is a story there somewhere.</p>
<p>James</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ross Perot may well have handed the 1992 election to Clinton, but Dole lost &#039;96 all by himself.  And Clinton won a Presidency that was greatly constrained by the Perot movement.  When 19% vote third party, both D&#039;s and R&#039;s can see their peril.  Once Gingrich made Perot&#039;s issues Republican issues, Clinton&#039;s plans for health care and growing the government were dead.  So the budget got balanced and Clinton was forced to the center.

We have the same dynamic this time, only difference is Obama hasn&#039;t the wit to back down.  He&#039;s going to press on, the Republicans will take the House and many Senate seats in 2010.  THe only question is whether the Republicans can seize the opportunity.  They can run a fiscal conservative sane person (e.g. Romney) and win big, or they can stick with the Christian issues and lose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ross Perot may well have handed the 1992 election to Clinton, but Dole lost &#8217;96 all by himself.  And Clinton won a Presidency that was greatly constrained by the Perot movement.  When 19% vote third party, both D&#8217;s and R&#8217;s can see their peril.  Once Gingrich made Perot&#8217;s issues Republican issues, Clinton&#8217;s plans for health care and growing the government were dead.  So the budget got balanced and Clinton was forced to the center.</p>
<p>We have the same dynamic this time, only difference is Obama hasn&#8217;t the wit to back down.  He&#8217;s going to press on, the Republicans will take the House and many Senate seats in 2010.  THe only question is whether the Republicans can seize the opportunity.  They can run a fiscal conservative sane person (e.g. Romney) and win big, or they can stick with the Christian issues and lose.</p>
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		<title>By: buck smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>buck smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you have red &amp; blue wrong in your first sentence...</description>
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		<title>By: Blacque Jacques Shellacque</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blacque Jacques Shellacque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Republicans want to make gains next year, what needs to happen first is for a bona fide conservative leadership to emerge, and the RINOs need to be marginalized. No more of this Democrat Lite crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Republicans want to make gains next year, what needs to happen first is for a bona fide conservative leadership to emerge, and the RINOs need to be marginalized. No more of this Democrat Lite crap.</p>
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