Not Proud To Be Gay, Redux
Dan’s posting was so simple and important, I wanted to repeat it and reinforce that I completely agree!
Still, however, all too many remain fixated not just on the color of our skin, but on any identifying characteristic which separates us from the “norm.” And perhaps because that characteristic put us in a disfavored class, we reply by becoming proud of our difference.
With gay people, the pride replaces the shame previous generations thoughts about our difference. Perhaps, had I come of age a decade or so before I did, I might feel proud to be gay, but I don’t. I’m not ashamed of it. It’s just part of who I am. One characteristic among many.
How true, Dan. This is another example of how left-wing identity politics is turning America into a “Balkanized Iraq-like” nation day-by-day. We must stem the tide and all become AMERICANS again.
-Bruce (GayPatriot)
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I just came across this site and am thrilled! At last there is another group of people understanding that the fight is not based on sexuality, race, or religion. It is based on our quest for Freedom NOT Governmental Control and Abuse of Power!
Thanks for stating this so well!!
Comment by GinnyAnn — September 20, 2009 @ 1:48 pm - September 20, 2009
Very true. Identity politics also alienates people who could very well be your friend even if they don’t hold the same moral views having come from a very similar perspective.
Not that I have any experience with that ::: walking off whistling :::
Comment by Randy — September 20, 2009 @ 2:01 pm - September 20, 2009
Differences in skin color and who you screw are totally different than ‘diversity of morals’. Why would you ever befriend someone who is morally repugnant?
Comment by Brendan In Philly — September 20, 2009 @ 2:25 pm - September 20, 2009
Why would you ever befriend someone who is morally repugnant?
Jesus did.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — September 20, 2009 @ 3:22 pm - September 20, 2009
I spent the morning at a church meeting about the new changes in the ELCA welcoming gays. In fact, the new policy doesn’t either affirm or not affirm homosexuality–it says that, in this church, we will accept a range of conscience-based approaches to Scripture on the subject. I am perfectly fine with being in a church where people disagree with me. My spiritual growth does not depend on proving to people that I’m right and they’re wrong. But it does involve each of allowing each other the space to be ourselves, and that was the focus of the meeting–not homosexuality, per se. I don’t think I’m superior to people who think homosexuality is a sin–I just want a place where all of us sinners can worship together.
Comment by Ashpenaz — September 20, 2009 @ 4:07 pm - September 20, 2009
Brendan says:
While I wouldn’t quite put it that way, I know what you are saying, that’s another reason why its important for liberal gay activists to stop using “civil rights” as a mantra for every public policy goal they have.
Brendan:
Because nothing anyone else has or could ever do is any worse than the sins I have been forgiven or am capable of.
North Dallas Thirty:
Exactly. He did so because He saw beyond the labels and projections to the human soul. He never compromised Truth, He was crucified as a result of it … He did all of that because of the “joy set before Him.” If He can have compassion and love on the very folks who put Him on the cross (which is all of us because of sin) who am I to look disdainfully at someone deemed repugnant? Christ became “repugnant” so that we would come to right standing with God. So that when He was resurrected, we would all know the Joy of that Rebirth through faith.
I don’t see through the dirty filter of repugnant judgment of someone’s heart. I hope to see others through the clarity of love and hope found in the resurrection.
And I promise I am not a teetotaller. I have never left a comment like this here before. It just kind of popped out. It is authentic and submitted humbly.
Comment by Randy — September 20, 2009 @ 4:08 pm - September 20, 2009
The problem with everyone “becoming AMERICANS again” is that generally only one rather cookie-cutter concept of American is OK.
As long as gays are widely viewed as a “disfavored class” there will be a need for Pride. There will be a need for National Coming Out Day. Being just a little bit outspoken will be necessary.
Comment by DRH — September 21, 2009 @ 1:02 am - September 21, 2009
You don’t think “Pride” perpetuates the so-called “disfavored class” at all?
Does anybody actually “celebrate” National Coming Out Day? Either accomplishes what, exactly?
Comment by ThatGayConservative — September 21, 2009 @ 3:49 am - September 21, 2009
I think people who invest all their “pride” in the fact that they’re gay probably have little or anything else in their lives to be proud of.
Comment by V the K — September 21, 2009 @ 5:57 am - September 21, 2009
Well said, Randy.
Comment by Beverly Lynn — September 21, 2009 @ 9:38 am - September 21, 2009
Thanks Beverly. I hit the “say it” button with a little reservation but I have always appreciated the respect the bloggers here have for differing views.
Comment by Randy — September 21, 2009 @ 1:44 pm - September 21, 2009
Welcome to commenting Randy. You might find it addicting.
Comment by The_Livewire — September 21, 2009 @ 2:37 pm - September 21, 2009
Excellent post Randy!
NDT – how many liberal sex crazed drug addicted faggot pedophiles (all words you have used to describe the gay communities) who you despise with a burning hate that is breathtaking, do you have in your circle of friends. Jesus did indeed, but he didn’t hate them to begin with.
Comment by a different Dave — September 22, 2009 @ 8:25 pm - September 22, 2009
Wow. I just found this website and I am shocked. Its as if you are admitting that you really dont like or blame yourselves for being gay. You want to live in the closet, thats fine. But you seem to place alot of blame on other gays. You are condition to dislike that part of yourself when you are growing up but most adults realize it for what it is.
amazing. Just amazing.
I will be visiting this website often. Someone has to watch over those who want to push their negativity on the rest of us.
Comment by AndyBlue — September 29, 2009 @ 6:16 pm - September 29, 2009
Andy, I highly recommend you read our posts. We don’t dislike ourselves. We don’t live in the closet. It’s the issue of Pride with which we have a quibble. Read our posts and consider their meaning before projecting your prejudices onto us.
Comment by B. Daniel Blatt — September 29, 2009 @ 10:26 pm - September 29, 2009