But I find it funny our resident ‘indian’ (I still prefer first peoples) defending the Cowboy

Well, it would be a lot cheaper to stop appeasing evil regimes, stand up to them, and actually prevent them from acquiring nuclear weapons in the first place, but the Obama Administration has absolutely no interest in doing that. It might harm our “standing in the International Community.” As we speak, Iran is building nuclear weapons and Obama knows it. He’s just running out the clock so that when it’s verified that Iran has gone nuclear, Obama can use the excuse of, “well, we can’t do anything about it now. They might actually USE the weapons against us if we try to intervene.” That’s the plan.

It’s cute the way you wingnuts will howl about money being spent on health care but cheer it being thrown away on stuff like this.

Salvage,

I know you’re a liberal, which means you are thoroughly unfamiliar with the US Constitution, but were you to actually read it, you would find that National Defense is specifically mandated in it, while health care is not. Indeed, since the powers of congress are limited to those specifically enumerated in that document, Obamacare is prohibited by the US Constitution.

You really ought to try reading it sometime.

Kennedy’s quid pro quo with the soviets was to withdraw our missles from Turkey if the soviets would withdraw theirs from Cuba. Unfortunately, there seem to be no quid pro quos in this deal. Obama buckled, and in the process upset our eastern and central european leaders. Poland is furious and now distrusts the US. Who can blame them?

Although some of the public may like him for whatever reasons, the european leaders seem to like him because they see him as weak and pliable. It’s been a long time since an American President has displayed so little backbone. Gives the europeans a chance to take charge.

Here we have a president who can’t engender respect with allies or with enemies. He has revealed his weakness, and in foreign policy and in defense, that is dangerous for America.

After all, the Obama Party and Barack Obama have to prove their bonafides to their fellow totalitarian wannabes, don’t they?

And how much has this whole thing cost so far? It’s cute the way you wingnuts will howl about money being spent on health care but cheer it being thrown away on stuff like this.

Sooooo…..,missile defense for Poland & Czech Republic – Bad. Missile defense for Hawaii – Good. It’s cute how liberal wingnuts want to be taken seriously on national security, and then gut it. It’s cute how liberal wingnuts waste trillions of dollars and then bitch about missile defense for Europe and the US. It’s cute the way liberal wingnuts go on about how their messiah is going to make the rest of the world love us and then the bumbling fool offends world leaders, engages in trade wars etc.

Oh wait. It’s not cute. It’s f’ing sad and dangerous.

“I refuse to protect the citizens of my country from dying in an atomic furnace because I can’t provide protection for ALL of them, but only for 80%; therefore, you ALL must suffer! Ain’t I ethical?”

VDH, whom I respect, is one of those people. I think he’s off, but I do accept he has an arguement.

Perhaps, had there been more behind-the-scenes work, talking things over with the Poles and Czechs before acting, I would agree with you.

So, instead of insulting us, why not make your point in a more civil manner? And believe it or not, there are actually conservatives who have said that Obama did the right thing.

And if you’ll note above, I don’t address the issue of whether or not it will work, but how Obama treated an agreement with our allies.

Fascinating how many on the left undermine their solid arguments by assuming the worst about conservatives and calling them names.

Kudos to Croft for echoing your point, addressing a flaw in your argument and maintaining a civil tone.

So let me be clear: Iran’s nuclear and ballistic missile activity poses a real threat, not just to the United States, but to Iran’s neighbors and our allies. The Czech Republic and Poland have been courageous in agreeing to host a defense against these missiles. As long as the threat from Iran persists, we will go forward with a missile defense system that is cost-effective and proven.

To say, however, that the “shield’ was a technological failure is just not consistent with the facts, though.

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/20/jimmy-carters-nsa-hey-lets-shoot-down-israeli-jets-if-they-fly-over-iraq-to-attack-iran/

He has no idea the kind of negative reaction something like this would generate in this country. It would be almost as bad as if we decided to fire upon the Brits without good cause, although in this case there are many that would see religious problems with it as well. I also question whether some of the pilots would refuse an order to fire upon IDF jets. In the defense of US forces this would be supported, but for the sake of Iran??? Absolutely not.

Missile shield can stop 100 warheads.

Enemy fires 150 warheads and 150 decoys.

How many nukes would get through? How many need to get through to kill people?

I’ll let you figure out the answer, that may take a while but I’m sure you’ll get there eventually.

And how much has this whole thing cost so far? It’s cute the way you wingnuts will howl about money being spent on health care but cheer it being thrown away on stuff like this. I guess you think that any weapon system will eventually be used on Muslims and that you could watch it on Fox so it’ll be money well spent.

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