Comments on: Standing for Smaller Government Will Help GOP Win Perot Voters

By: American Elephant

American Elephant — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 05:20:18 +0000

and until the gop abandons its social platform flank, it’ll continue to lose, lose, lose.

Like Proposition 8 lost, lost, lost in California?

Oh wait, it didn’t. It won, in a deep blue state that Obama won by 25 percentage points! Why? Because a majority of Americans, even in deep blue states agree with Conservatives on social issues.

A majority of Americans value the marriage institution and oppose ‘gay marriage’. A majority of Americans oppose the drug culture of the Democrat party. And a majority of Americans now oppose abortion.

I hate to break it to you, Ohioansemenswallower, but blacks, hispanics, and asians agree with the GOP on social issues, and the white, urban liberals who agree with you are a shrinking demographic while the former are all growing demographics.

By: RJLigier

RJLigier — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:20:53 +0000

The Republican Party will forever be a minority party without the social conservatives, the true conservatives. The LGBT wing of the Republican Party would do well to remember the Goldwater nomination and the insane hostility from Democrat and Republican progressives. Socially liberal conservatives recognized the pragmatism of the Goldwater nomination. Funny how one forgets history.

By: ThatGayConservative

ThatGayConservative — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:18:34 +0000

Interesting. You can chuck a baby in a soiled utility closet to die, but woe be unto anybody who defends America from terrorist attack.

Talk about “monstrous”.

By: North Dallas Thirty

North Dallas Thirty — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:19:00 +0000

LOL...if that's the case, buckeyenutlover, then why did the spinning lying Obama have to back away from his positions on abortion and insist that he wants to reduce it? A lie on his part, but we'll ignore that for now. We know delusional leftist liberals like yourself who impregnate underage girls and want to use Federal funds to cover it up are all in favor of abortion. But do you think the rest of the country supports the Obama Party position of Federally-supported organizations telling underage girls to break the law?

By: buckeyenutlover

buckeyenutlover — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:12:33 +0000

sadly, if you asked people to identify the one major issue important to the GOP, it would undoubtedly be abortion.

the general public knows the gop isn’t for less government; rather they’re for government that’s “good for you.”

what a joke. and until the gop abandons its social platform flank, it’ll continue to lose, lose, lose.

By: scr_north

scr_north — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:47:14 +0000

Good column. Just to clairify, here in Canada we have a 5 party system. We have Conservatives (sort of your Republicans but more to the left), the Liberals (sort of your Democrats but a teensy more to the left of what your traditional Democrats were), the New Democratic Party (pretty much what Obama’s Democratic party is now), Parti Quebecois (Province of Quebec only party that is set on separating Quebec from Canada) and the Green Party (tree huggers who have polled a few pecent of the vote in each election usually in a riding that just manages to screw a main-stream candidate).
Sometimes this form of government works but more often then not we see national elections every year of two and the sales of Tylonol rise accordingly. At least this has been our experience of the last 8 years or so.

If I understand the process in the States correctly each time an election comes the incumbant still has to win the nomination in his/her riding. While it’s usually by aclamation they can be forced to run against a challenger if one is nominated by the riding association, is that correct? If so, conservatives that are concerned about the GOP incumbants (or candidates) being too pro big government (and there seem to be a lot of them) then they should be joining their associations in large enough numbers that they can choose a truly conservative candidate to run. If this happens in enough of the ridings then the National GOP has to take notice.

By: B. Daniel Blatt

B. Daniel Blatt — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:14:24 +0000

unseen, love your succinct summary of this post.

By: HCN

HCN — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:30:07 +0000

We have to remember and remind that the larger the government gets, the smaller the citizen is.
(don’t remember where I got that from, but it’s stuck in my head)

By: Laura

Laura — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:25:28 +0000

This is exactly the right thing we need to do, and of course, it’s what the Dems have done. We need to unite the different factions, which means individuals may have to compromise on some of their pet issues in order to get a candidate who can represent a broader range of people. It’s the only way we can win. If we sweep out the Dems beginning in ’10 and continue to keep pressure on them until ’12 and vote this sorry President out, that is not the end. We need to continue to root out the policies that allowed them to take control in the first place. That means we need local, state and federal pols who will inform voters of issues as the come up. And voters need to stay on top of what government is doing, all the way from our elected school board officials up to the President. People need to take control back.

By: unseen

unseen — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 10:22:48 +0000

But the thing is that the voters that voted for Perot and for Paul also voted for Reagan.

this is not rocket science. Freedom, liberty, pursuit of happiness.

Lower taxes, less spending, no new federal programs. give power to states. etc