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MSM Promotes Left-Wing Fantasies of Right-Wing Violence

Left-wing blogs have made much of the death of Bill Sparkman, a Kentucky census worker found asphyxiated next to a tree (to which he was tied) in eastern Kentucky.  Based on a ”unsubstantiated claim that ‘fed’ was ‘scrawled’ on his chest,” they’re convinced “every outspoken conservative activist and advocate for limited government” are responsible for “a murder that has yet to be determined a murder.”

Of course they are; they harbor fantasies of right-wing violence so we can fit the caricatures they’ve created of us, a caricature created without them every having studied our movement or considered our ideas.  Just as they presume the person who murdered Sparkman (if indeed he was murdered) listened to Glenn Beck’s TV show and read Michelle Malkin’s blog, they presume we’re racists who engage in violence at our rallies.

The eagerness with which they rush to conclusions about Sparkman’s death provides a window into the worldview or the accusatory left-wingers:

What’s uniquely disgusting about stories like this is the eagerness, to borrow Ace’s perfectly apt description, to find an ideological motive with which to bludgeon one’s opponents. The human life involved is reduced to the crudest sort of political prop.

But, while they’re busy accusing us of supporting violence and promoting racism at our rallies, as if the violence alone made it incumbent upon them to decry the demonstrations, they don’t seem to get all that upset when self-styled anarchists protest capitalism at the G-20 summit in Pittsburgh.  Some of those folks seem to have come dressed for violence, wearing “helmets and safety goggles.

Don Surber reminds us that, in “Pittsburgh — as at every economic summit in the last 20 years — rocks are thrown and the riot police have to come out,” offering:

The same Fourth Estate that was wringing its hands over the harsh words of those tea-bagging pooopy pantsers takes violence by the left in stride.

Tigerhawk suspects “the mainstream media are completely in the tank for the Democrats, and want to help them push the talking point that the tea-partiers are both extremists and typical Republicans (neither of which is generally true).“ (via Instapundit).

I guess for them, reporting just doesn’t matter, their narrative suffices.  I mean, why else would “right-leaning journalists” regularly get “rude and offensive emails from reporters in the mainstream media“?

RELATED:  Is the Left-Wing Hoping for Violence?

NB:  Due to some commentary about a double meaning hidden in the first sentence, I tweaked it a bit, adding a detail for clarification.  ;-)

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  1. Perhaps the ultimate expression of the liberal echo chamber and the current utter disconnect between Democrats and the rest of American society was reflected in a Rasmussen Reports poll released on Tuesday.

    “Sixty-three percent (63%) of Democrats are worried about the threat of political violence, while 71% of Republicans are not concerned. Among those not affiliated with either major party, 63% are not concerned.”

    Read the rest here: http://rossputin.com/blog/index.php/dems-brainwashed-into-fearing-political-violence

    Makes you wonder doesn’t it?

    Comment by Steven E. Kalbach — September 25, 2009 @ 8:00 pm - September 25, 2009

  2. Rachel Madcow leading with the story tonight. You could just feel her trying to get the reporter to say, “Yeah right-wing Glenn Beck extremist did it”. She was giddy as she informed everyone of the breaking news that FED was indeed scrawled on his chest. One of two things happened here: he stumbled into the wrong place at the wrong time in that drug infested Kentucky backwood place (who does a census there) or this is another case of them doing the dirty work and blaming us, only this is far worse then breaking some windows.

    Comment by Diane — September 25, 2009 @ 9:20 pm - September 25, 2009

  3. Diane, did Maddow even address the issue of druggies in that area?

    Comment by B. Daniel Blatt — September 25, 2009 @ 9:46 pm - September 25, 2009

  4. Dude, the left wingers are nuts but that doesn’t mean America’s storm troopers have the right to beat the crap out of them. Freedom reaches across the aisle.

    I’m pretty sure the founding fathers didnt want the first amendment quashed by Pittsburgh’s finest, who are notoriously ill-tempered and brutal.

    Heck, most of the kids they were gassing were university students, not anarchists. The professional protestors brought gas masks – who can blame them? Everybody knows the G20 protesters are going to get gassed at some point.

    G20 isn’t about capitalism any more than NAFTA is about free trade.

    Supporting big government with billy clubs beating down our enemies makes us hypocrites. How can so-called conservatives think it’s ok for the cops to treat people like that? Big government is bad – all aspects of it, not just the tax part.

    Comment by Angela — September 25, 2009 @ 10:32 pm - September 25, 2009

  5. Sorry, pal. You throw a rock at a COP and you’re going to get your ass righteously KICKED.

    And if you hang around with such punks and give them cover, especially after you’ve been lawfully ordered to disperse, then you’re going to get a piece of the action too.

    These weren’t ‘protests’, they were RIOTS.

    These little brats wore gas masks and bandanas so they could REMAIN in the area, throw deadly missiles at police officers, and destroy more property.

    Every one of those little bastards who wore a bandana, a mask or a balaclava had the INTENT to destroy property.

    They deserved far worse from the cops than they got.

    So quit your sniveling, you immature little pukes.

    Comment by Tailgunner — September 25, 2009 @ 11:08 pm - September 25, 2009

  6. Wake up already! They freaking shut the city down. Nobody is allowed in downtown. Public streets where the police outnumber citizens 3 to 1. Liberty is dying at the iron-clad feet of the state and you’re cheering them on?

    You need to step away from the television. I suspect the only people wearing bandanas are the undercover cops.

    Take your goggles off and look around YouTube – 250 pounds of roid rage x 4 beating up on a 100 pound girl on a bike? College kids trapped and gassed in stairwells? That makes you feel safer?

    They’re coming for us next you know. They’re already making the noises.

    I’m far more afraid of government than I am the anarchists! That’s *why* I’m a conservative.

    Comment by Angela — September 25, 2009 @ 11:38 pm - September 25, 2009

  7. “Sixty-three percent (63%) of Democrats are worried about the threat of political violence, ”

    Maybe because we remember the last time there was a Democratic President, and we remember the murder of 168 Americans by rightwing extremists, and we remember the abortion doctors, and the Olympic bombing,. Hell, we even remember a mob of republican staffers violently shutting down the counting of ballots in a presidential election.

    Comment by Tano — September 25, 2009 @ 11:38 pm - September 25, 2009

  8. Liberty is dying at the iron-clad feet of the state and you’re cheering them on?

    Sorry, but you’re confusing anarchy with liberty.

    Liberty is the freedom to do as you please and accept the consequences.

    Anarchy is when you expect to be able to do whatever you want without taking responsibility for the consequences.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — September 26, 2009 @ 12:12 am - September 26, 2009

  9. Maybe because we remember the last time there was a Democratic President, and we remember the murder of 168 Americans by rightwing extremists, and we remember the abortion doctors, and the Olympic bombing,. Hell, we even remember a mob of republican staffers violently shutting down the counting of ballots in a presidential election.

    And yet, they’re still in complete and total denial about what killed over three thousand Americans eight years ago, as we see from Truthers like Barack Obama, Valerie Jarrett, and Van Jones.

    What makes Tano’s lies even more obvious is the fact that Barack Obama is busily trying to release hardened, murderous criminals who have already stated their goal is to murder as many Americans as possible and demonstrated their willingness to do so — while screaming about the “danger” posed by senior citizens at town halls protesting Obamacare.

    Fortunately, Tano and his fellow idiots have already botched so many attempts to frame conservatives that it will be fairly obvious when they set the Reichstag fire who did it.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — September 26, 2009 @ 12:26 am - September 26, 2009

  10. Yeah, I can’t imagine how a coalition of gun nuts, eliminationists, bigots, and neocons could ever be accused of harboring violent fantasies.

    Comment by Little Boots — September 26, 2009 @ 3:03 am - September 26, 2009

  11. #10: You’re so right, Little Boots! Next thing you know, they’ll do something insane like make a movie about the assassination of a sitting president.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/5333220.stm

    Or show up at polling locations on election day with billy clubs to intimidate voters of a different race.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU&feature=player_embedded

    Or burn down other people’s homes to advance their political ideology.
    http://www.kirotv.com/news/15472392/detail.html

    Or bite off the finger of one of their political adversaries.
    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/09/health-care-activist-bites-off-the-finger-of-a-counter-demonstrator.html

    Obviously, we should all remain vigilant concerning the threat of imminent violence from the right-wing!

    Comment by Sean A — September 26, 2009 @ 4:05 am - September 26, 2009

  12. Maybe because we remember the last time there was a Democratic President,

    We remember the last time there was a democrat president who wouldn’t support our soldiers. We remember

    MSG Gary Gordon
    SFC Randy Shugart
    SSG Daniel Busch
    SFC Earl Filmore
    SFC Matt Rierson
    MSG Tim Martin
    CPL Jamie Smith
    SPC James Cavaco
    SGT Casey Joyce
    PFC Richard Kawalewski
    SGT Dominic Pilla
    SGT Lorenzo Ruiz
    SSG William Cleveland
    SSG Thomas Field
    CW4 Raymond Frank
    CW3 Clifton Wolcott
    CW2 Donovan Briley
    SGT Cornell Houston
    PFC James Martin

    We also remember David McCalley punching Travis Horn.

    Not to mention Rog Coverly’s home shot at.

    McCain’s bus shot with .22 cal. and paintballs.

    Jose Nunez assaulted for his support of Prop. 8.

    Various GOP campaign headquarters shot at or vandalized.

    A congresswoman’s son and others slashing the tires of Republican vans rented to help people get to the polls (voter suppression).

    SEIU thugs assaulting citizens at town hall meetings.

    Yards in Madison, WI vandalized with swastikas burned in the grass with Round Up.

    Burning campaign signs in Md.

    Black Panthers making sure people vote properly.

    I can go on, if you like.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — September 26, 2009 @ 6:16 am - September 26, 2009

  13. How about Ted Kaczynski
    Tre Arrow
    Rod Coronado
    Wiebo Ludwig
    Jeff Luers
    William Cottrell
    Marie Mason
    Eric McDavid
    Daniel McGowan
    William Rogers
    Darren Thurston
    Peter Daniel Young
    Paul Watson
    Bernadine Dohrn
    Mark Rudd
    Bill Ayers
    Terry Robbins
    Jeff Jones
    Gerry Long
    Steve Tappis
    Diana Oughton
    Ted Gold
    Terry Robbins
    Cathy Wilkerson
    Kathy Boudin
    Charles Manson
    Bobby Beausoleil
    Mary Brunner
    Susan Atkins
    Linda Kasabian
    Patricia Krenwinkle
    Dennis Wilson
    Charles Watson

    Etc. etc. etc.?

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — September 26, 2009 @ 6:44 am - September 26, 2009

  14. Uh, I just googled “dead census worker.” The article quoted people who saw the guy hanging with his arms duct taped. He wasn’t “found asphyxiated next to a tree (to which he was tied.”

    A little honesty can go along way in convincing people to pay attention to your ideas.

    Comment by lawguy — September 26, 2009 @ 8:09 am - September 26, 2009

  15. seeing as the biggest terrorist strike on US homeland prior to 9/11 was thanks to an ex-military christian, timothy mcveigh, and his band of right-wing christian extremists, all americans should be wary of the rhetoric shouted out by limbaugh, hannity and beck. they’re inciting violence and they’re cowards for it.

    the gop needs to stop their leaders now.

    Comment by buckeyenutlover — September 26, 2009 @ 8:49 am - September 26, 2009

  16. So why is it that when “patriots” show up to protests with rifles and side arms, the people concerned are just hysterical, but when “anarchists” show up to protests with “helmets and goggles” (probably knowing their going to get their heads smashed) that they’re “dressed for violence?

    Yes they are dressed for violence. The violence that predictably befell them for daring to question authority.

    Comment by TimO — September 26, 2009 @ 9:49 am - September 26, 2009

  17. #11, #12, #13

    How do you imagine your little lists do anything to counter the notion that there are legitimate reasons to fear rightwing violence?

    And (#12) how on earth is your list of fallen soldiers relevant to this discussion at all? What does their story have to do with the question of whether or not the American political right is prone to violence?

    Comment by Tano — September 26, 2009 @ 9:49 am - September 26, 2009

  18. I wonder what the world would be like if the American political Right really did have a touch of violence to it – say, *only* as much as the American political Left has – e.g., the G20 protestors. (Never mind the Left’s absurd fantasies about the Right.)

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — September 26, 2009 @ 10:34 am - September 26, 2009

  19. Hell, we even remember a mob of republican staffers violently shutting down the counting of ballots in a presidential election.

    If I remember correctly – and I do – that was yet another discussion where Tano got his ass handed to him.

    Facts and Tano: They don’t mix.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — September 26, 2009 @ 10:37 am - September 26, 2009

  20. Then bnl, I’m sure your horrified at a 9/11 truther being handpicked by gthe President, who associates with terrorists, and (possibly) lets them ghost write books for them?

    Come on BNL, Tim McVeigh was a kook who was denounced by everyone. President Obama worked hand in hand with terrorists, and still does.

    I’m waiting for the outrage. When you can show that a conservative politician worked with Tim McVeigh, then you have a point.

    Comment by The_Livewire — September 26, 2009 @ 10:49 am - September 26, 2009

  21. Note how Tano doesn’t mention the pro-lifer who was shot recently. Though with the high incidence of black on black violence, I guess Tano’s ‘look at all the right wing violence, you’re all nuts’ argument means he’s afraid of black people as well…

    RAAAAAAACCCIIIIISSSSSTTTTT!!!

    Comment by The_Livewire — September 26, 2009 @ 10:50 am - September 26, 2009

  22. You are implying that the guy was masturbating after tying himself by the neck to a tree and talking about liberals making “unsubstantiated claims” in the same paragraph? You are a sad, sad man.

    Comment by psychedelic santa — September 26, 2009 @ 11:37 am - September 26, 2009

  23. Let’s see Tim, even those patriots who show up with rifles and side arms don’t wield them, whlle those with helmets and goggles come bearing rocks which they throw (as per the post above).

    Those with the guns are perhaps acted inappropriately (and I think they are), but they’re not engaging in violence as are the rock-throwers. See the difference?

    And anyway, shouldn’t the media be decrying then the violence of the latter if they’re so upset with the former–and that’s the point of the post to which you attach your comment.

    Comment by B. Daniel Blatt — September 26, 2009 @ 12:29 pm - September 26, 2009

  24. Doesn’t the post above imply that something other than murder happened to the census taker? Aren’t the descriptions by those who saw the guy consistent with murder? Aren’t the only people who are advocating resistance to the census on the right? Isn’t violence (at the very least) implied when people like Bachman say we’ve got to make a blood oath to resist?

    Or am I in Wonderland again, where people carrying guns to a public debate (whether or not they are used) are not trying to intimidate at least?

    Comment by lawguy — September 26, 2009 @ 1:41 pm - September 26, 2009

  25. whoah, law guy, you do throw out a lot of a left-wing cliches and talking points in just one comment.

    This post doesn’t imply that something other than murder happened; it does imply, particularly through its links, that we should wait until an investigation has been concluded. Whereas we on the right are waiting for that investigation, you on the left are leaping to conclusions, suggesting comments by conservatives lead to this death, yet you have no evidence to buttress your case, only your prejudice.

    And while I’ve faulted those talking guns to rallies, do you fault those throwing rocks at rallies?

    Comment by B. Daniel Blatt — September 26, 2009 @ 2:10 pm - September 26, 2009

  26. #24, I would say you are in Wonderland. There hasn’t been any thing brought forward as of yet to conclude why the murder happened. There are many possible hypotheses as to what happened. For example, what if it was a case of Sadomasochistic role playing gone awry? And you’d be foolish to say this doesn’t happen because it has. The point is, see how easy it is to attribute cause without knowing the facts? When your mind is conditioned to think there will be political violence; aren’t you more apt to believe everything is motivated by political violence?

    Comment by Steven E. Kalbach — September 26, 2009 @ 2:26 pm - September 26, 2009

  27. “The human life involved is reduced to the crudest sort of political prop.”

    See also Paul Wellstone, Matthew Sheppard.

    Comment by Draybee — September 26, 2009 @ 3:02 pm - September 26, 2009

  28. #15: “seeing as the biggest terrorist strike on US homeland prior to 9/11 was thanks to an ex-military christian, timothy mcveigh, and his band of right-wing christian extremists…”

    Timothy McVeigh was in a band? I had no idea! Did they have any hits? bnl, maybe if you hum a few bars for me I’ll know their songs.

    Comment by Sean A — September 26, 2009 @ 3:38 pm - September 26, 2009

  29. #15: And by the way, bnl, you’re right. McVeigh was a Christian, assuming by “Christian” you mean declared himself an agnostic and said that science was his “religion.”

    Comment by Sean A — September 26, 2009 @ 3:46 pm - September 26, 2009

  30. #27: See also, Ted Kennedy.

    Comment by Sean A — September 26, 2009 @ 3:48 pm - September 26, 2009

  31. It really is sick how the left and democrats are hoping that this poor souls death is political. Especially give that they are biting off peoples fingers and beat up black men for selling flags. The left seems to be freaking out, frankly.

    Comment by Peanut — September 26, 2009 @ 5:12 pm - September 26, 2009

  32. all americans should be wary of the rhetoric shouted out by limbaugh, hannity and beck. they’re inciting violence and they’re cowards for it.

    [Citation Needed]

    but when “anarchists” show up to protests with “helmets and goggles” (probably knowing their going to get their heads smashed) that they’re “dressed for violence?

    It’s called history. See any past G8, G20, G52 (or whatever) summit in the past. Particularly that one in Seattle a few years back.

    How do you imagine your little lists do anything to counter the notion that there are legitimate reasons to fear rightwing violence?

    The reality is that one is rarer than the other.

    And (#12) how on earth is your list of fallen soldiers relevant to this discussion at all? What does their story have to do with the question of whether or not the American political right is prone to violence?

    You started off with We remember the last time there was a Democratic President…. The last time we had a democrat president, several soldiers lost their lives because he refused their requests for equipment and support.

    Further, how can you make the ASSertion that the “American political right is prone to violence”?

    Answer: You can’t you and you’re other assholes like Ohiocumguzzler are doing your damndest to distract from the obvious and recent example of left-wing violence. Classic lying SOB liberal playbook. Distract and place blame anywhere and everywhere else.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — September 26, 2009 @ 5:37 pm - September 26, 2009

  33. Still, Turdo, the fact remains that the liberals had to invent instances of violence from the town hall meetings and TEA party gatherings. Mostly to cover up the fact that they themselves were responsible for most of it.

    Contrast the 9/12 march on Washington with your fellow thugs in Pittsburgh. HUGE difference.

    Sorry, but that’s the truth. Suck on it.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — September 26, 2009 @ 9:08 pm - September 26, 2009

  34. Thank you for the unintentional comedy … especially the commenter who still thinks the Unabomber was a “leftist” & not a neo-primativist faux-libertarian nutjob. That old canard has more lives than a whole litter of alley-cats, regardless of how quickly & thoroughly a perusal of his “Manifesto” destroys it.

    Sorry, but I hardly think a bunch of “anarchist” jocks smashing up a Starbuck’s or a McDonald’s (actions most on the left consider juvenile & repulsive) really compares very well to bombing abortion-clinics, shooting up a Holocaust Museum or gunning down a doctor in his church – let alone the ongoing actions of REAL hardcore right-wing fundamentalists like Stormfront, the KKK or Al-Quaeda (check out their actual doctrine & not the prefab Fox News BS if you want to know what they really stand for – a lot of OBL’s nativist “wholesome traditional values versus perverted Hollywood decadence” boilerplate sounds like it’d fit right into any speech by Hannity, Palin or Beck) … yeah, & I bet Sparkman’s friends & relatives are simply delighted that you think his death is a source of “eagerness” for all those nutty leftists – because after all, what anti-war, anti-torture, pro-human-rights liberal DOESN’T get their jollies from hearing about someone being lynched?

    Speaking of Epic Rhetoric Fail: in case you’ve been in a coma since 1999, America’s already had eight long years to “consider your ideas” while Bush made them into reality – & I sincerely hope for America’s sake it can recover from them. For thousands in Manhattan, DC, Afghanistan & Iraq there will never be a recovery – they’re now “Collateral Damage” of the Project For A New American Century.

    “Fantasies of right-wing violence” you say? Here’s an idea: put your money where your mouth is – try that line down in Central or South America sometime & let us know how that works out for you.

    Comment by jim — September 26, 2009 @ 10:59 pm - September 26, 2009

  35. “For thousands in Manhattan, DC, Afghanistan & Iraq there will never be a recovery – they’re now “Collateral Damage” of the Project For A New American Century.” [emphasis mine]

    Wow, it’s a truther, a leftie truther at that. Glad to see you’re reading the blogs now, Mr. Sheen.

    Comment by The_Livewire — September 27, 2009 @ 12:36 am - September 27, 2009

  36. If I have this straight, RWers are made hysterical by the President of the United States telling schoolkids to work hard and stay in school, and they’re made almost as hysterical by something that happened with a handful of six year olds singing a song.

    But let’s throw a tantrum because a few bloggers suggested a political motive to a tragic murder and a bunch more said – let’s wait.

    Now…back to our regularly scheduled program where crying lunatics with millions of viewers call the President a Nazi….and that’s no big deal.

    Bush Bizarro World never goes away, does it?

    Comment by Miss_Otis — September 27, 2009 @ 12:49 am - September 27, 2009

  37. Sorry Jimbo. The Klan has always been the militant arm of the democrats. Nowadays, of course, they get protection from your very own neo-comm American Criminal Liberals Union.

    You might as well stop making an ass of yourself now. There’s just no way you can come up with more victims than the 30,000,000+ the liberals have allowed to die.

    Funny, isn’t it. The government can apparently force you to carry health insurance, penalize you for eating, drinking, smoking, eating twinkies, fois gras, trans-fats etc. etc. etc. but one can slaughter their child no questions asked.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — September 27, 2009 @ 2:42 am - September 27, 2009

  38. Wow, Jim, you do seek to amuse, don’t you. Suggesting that the actions of a few isolated exteremist are somehow representative of Ameican conservatism. Gosh, you do hate us, don’t you? Wonder why that is. ‘Cause the right you hate has little to do with the right that is, save in your mind.

    Miss_Otis, just a quick quibble, those lunatics you’re referring to who called the President a Nazi don’t have millions of viewers, they just appeared frequently at left-wing protests when George W. Bush was in the White House.

    Comment by B. Daniel Blatt — September 27, 2009 @ 3:33 am - September 27, 2009

  39. [...] MSM Promotes Left-Wing Fantasies of Right-Wing Violence [...]

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  40. What a bunch of defensive whiners. Take some moral responsibility for the violent rhetoric of your movement. Maybe if more people on the right actually had the conscience or guts to call out the hyperbole and extremism within their own movement, the rest of the world wouldn’t have to. And it’s not just the left-wing that wonders if you’re all a bunch of foaming crazies, it’s mainstream America that is getting scared of the rage you and your leaders are trafficking in. For most decent Americans, the rabid vitriol and arms-bearing at the August tea-tantrums was unsettling and repugnant, as was Joe Wilson’s willfully-wrongheaded “You lie!” If you look and act like a violent mob on TV, you’ll be treated like a violent mob.

    President Obama receives 40 death threats a day; that’s 4 times as many as Bush did. Wouldn’t it be moral to ask what voices in the conservative media are stoking that kind of anger?

    Michelle Bachmann, Glenn Beck, Gorden Liddy and all kinds of other right-wing leaders and pundits take to the airwaves en masse to demonize the U.S. Census – with the most preposterous, fear-mongering rhetoric – and that might not be a cause for alarm?

    If there are any decent conservatives left, stop bleating that the rest of the world is blaming or persecuting you. And take a good hard look in the mirror: what do you stand for? Of course, if you can’t answer that question, playing victim is all you’ve got.

    Comment by william — September 27, 2009 @ 12:45 pm - September 27, 2009

  41. Oh, and let’s not forget the death threats to the New Jersey school where children had the audacity to praise the president. Those just came randomly out of nowhere; they had nothing to do with the fact that the right-wing media has been flogging the (non-)issue for weeks. You stoke rage; don’t play dumb when people act on it.

    Comment by william — September 27, 2009 @ 12:54 pm - September 27, 2009

  42. William, violent rhetoric of my movement. Where? Please identify where mainstream conservatives have been inciting violence.

    Rabid vitriol of August tea parties? Hmm. . . you mean those union thugs who beat up a conservative in Missouri or bit the finger of an Obamacare opponent in California?

    Guess that’s why increasing numbers of people oppose Obamacare.

    Um, oh, and yeah, if you want to know what we stand for, just read our blog, or listen to people protesting at tea parties–they make it quite clear what they want, if only you would listen, instead of getting your information about conservatives from left-wing websites.

    Lots and lots of projection, William. Telling us our rage in a tone of anger!

    Comment by B. Daniel Blatt — September 27, 2009 @ 4:03 pm - September 27, 2009

  43. Take some moral responsibility for the violent rhetoric of your movement.

    [Citation Needed]

    And it’s not just the left-wing that wonders if you’re all a bunch of foaming crazies, it’s mainstream America that is getting scared of the rage you and your leaders are trafficking in.

    [Citation Needed]

    Do you suppose mainstream Americans are going to put up with being labeled “racist” if they dare question Chairman Obama for much longer? Do you suppose mainstream Americans are going to approve of liberals using the death of a person for political gain like the Wellstone Memorial & Circle Jerk?

    If you look and act like a violent mob on TV, you’ll be treated like a violent mob.

    Most decent Americans see the liberal violent mobs in Pittsburgh, London, Seattle etc. Therefore, YOU are going to be treated like a violent mob.

    President Obama receives 40 death threats a day; that’s 4 times as many as Bush did. Wouldn’t it be moral to ask what voices in the conservative media are stoking that kind of anger?

    [Citation Needed]

    Wouldn’t it be moral to ask where the hell you get that steaming pile of BS?

    Michelle Bachmann, Glenn Beck, Gorden Liddy and all kinds of other right-wing leaders and pundits take to the airwaves en masse to demonize the U.S. Census

    [Citation Needed]

    Oh, and let’s not forget the death threats to the New Jersey school where children had the audacity to praise the president. Those just came randomly out of nowhere;

    [Citation Needed]

    We have seen, in the not too distant past where liberals made up claims of death threats. And that was a US Rep. Decent Americans aren’t going to put up with that bleating victimhood crap.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — September 27, 2009 @ 4:48 pm - September 27, 2009

  44. #41: “Those just came randomly out of nowhere; they had nothing to do with the fact that the right-wing media has been flogging the (non-)issue for weeks.”

    A “non-issue”, william? Government employees teaching children to sing songs praising President Obama, his “great accomplishments,” his policy objectives (“equal work means equal pay”; “we honor your great plans
    to make this country’s economy number one again”), and equating him to Jesus Christ (“red, yellow, black or white, All are equal in his sight”) is a “non-issue”? Many parents in this country are disgusted by Obama and find his policy positions to be repugnant, but I guess they are just a bunch of kooks and public school teachers have the final say in what their children are taught, right?

    Somehow I have a hard time believing that you would consider it a “non-issue” if young children were being taught to sing songs equating George W. Bush to a deity and praising his successful regime change in Iraq and liberating the Iraqi people.

    Comment by Sean A — September 27, 2009 @ 5:15 pm - September 27, 2009

  45. Violence: Glenn Beck intimating that Nancy Pelosi should be poisoned on national television; Ann Coulter cheerfully encouraging violence towards left-leaning judges and Democrats in general; signs at the tea-tantrums that are thinly-veiled threats to assassinate (the silly “water the tree” quote that everyone seems to love so much, signs that threaten to use arms before they’re “taken away”), Republican politicians joking about lynching left and right, then feigning innocence or ignorance. The list goes on and on and on, and frankly, if you’re unwilling to see what’s staring all of us in the face, that is your willful moral failing. These aren’t fringe voices, either; they are your mainstream.

    Rabid vitriol of tea-tantrums: not having the decency to let people speak without shouting them down, booing without listening, waving hate-filled signs and jabbing fingers – these are people who weren’t there to listen; they were there to shut down meaningful dialogue. And let’s not forget about the fevered ACORN-haters who chased three African-Americans from the edges of the “9/12” rally, inciting the mob around them to a froth of glee. Or, of course, the free-for-all of August “arms-bearing.”

    And finally, as for the current conservative movement standing for anything… I listened at those tea-tantrums, and all I heard was recycled misinformation and an excuse to screech against Obama. More broadly, we’ve heard nothing of coherence or conviction from the right about an actual vision for health care reform. All we’ve gotten is lies about “death panels” bandied about by Republican senators, and moronic cries of socialism screamed by recipients of Medicaire (a socialist program, of course). And where are the supposedly principled conservatives who should be standing up to try to articulate a true position, or at least talk some sense into this idiotic lunatic mob? Nowhere in sight. I wouldn’t say I’m angry so much as alarmed at what appears to be a wholesale disavowal of adult reason in favor of childish emotion.

    Lame “citation needed” gimmick, by the way, ThatGayConservative. If you want to check the death threats, all the census fear-mongering, or the death threats to the New Jersey school, all you need to do is turn your television somewhere other than Fox News. But that would mean, again, trying to see the world from outside your sad little bubble.

    Sean A.: what about all those school kids who sung their song praising George Bush’s response to Katrina (of all things)? Was there any anger from the right about that? Also, it is truly beyond sad that you feel the idea of “equal work, equal pay” is somehow a controversial thing for school children to praise or hope for, a “policy objective” that is “repugnant.” It seems by your statement that you also find racial equality repugnant and a successful American economy repugnant, as well? If these “policy objectives,” are so horrific and frightening to you and your fellow conservatives, then you have just proven my point: you have no interest in a better democracy and you have no interest in a better America.

    Comment by william — September 27, 2009 @ 5:52 pm - September 27, 2009

  46. Also Sean: It’s weird how, in your mind, praise for someone for seeing all people as equal is somehow suggesting that that person is like Jesus? Silly me: I though that was just upholding the principles of the Constitution.

    Comment by william — September 27, 2009 @ 6:07 pm - September 27, 2009

  47. #45: william, thanks for missing my point and in the process, proving it. The issue isn’t whether Obama’s policies are or are not praiseworthy. The issue is whether a school administrator or a parent gets to decide what children should be taught to praise when it comes to political issues. Your response clearly proves that you believe the judgment of a government employee trumps that of a parent. Shocker!

    #46: Oh, now this is pitiful. william, you poor little thing, do you REALLY not know the origin of the line, “red, yellow, black or white, all are equal in his sight”? Seriously?! Well, I guess I shouldn’t be surprised, considering that you’re a liberal. The line is a bastardization of a lyric from the song “Jesus Loves Me.” The original lyric is, “red, yellow, black, and white, all are PRECIOUS in his sight, Jesus loves the little children of the world…” Do you really not know this? Or is it that you know this, but you don’t think ripping off lyrics from a Sunday School ode to Jesus Christ (sung by millions of church-going Christian children for over half a century) and modifying it so that Obama is the object of praise in the song doesn’t equate with the man who Christians believe was the son of God and the savior of all mankind? Really?! No,….REALLY?!

    One more thing, I did notice that you managed to accuse me of finding “racial equality repugnant,” so excellent work with the originality, william. You really blew me out of the water by countering my criticism of the school district’s action by calling me a racist. Wow. I NEVER saw that coming. And believe me, there’s nothing more effective to shut down conservatives than calling them racists, notwithstanding the fact that your party supports, endorses, and advocates affirmative action programs that discriminate on the basis of race. It’s a nice hypocritical touch so, good job!

    Comment by Sean A — September 27, 2009 @ 6:36 pm - September 27, 2009

  48. what I love is how william continues to throw allegations around w.o citation

    Comment by The_Livewire — September 27, 2009 @ 8:01 pm - September 27, 2009

  49. The original song is titled “Jesus Loves the Little Children.” Who’s the bad Christian now, Sean? Heck, even that “librul” teacher who forced the songs on her class, she knew what the song’s title was! Where were you when the kids sung Bush’s praises over Katrina? Wild guess, but I bet you weren’t at the front lines on the fight against school prayer, either. And I certainly bet you weren’t sticking up for the kids who got kicked out of school for wearing anti-war slogans on their shirts. And I doubt you see any hypocrisy at all in the fact that the same Texas school that refused to air Obama’s speech also planned to bus its’ students, on school time, to a rally featuring none other than George Bush. No, “ideology in the schools” is something you only have a problem with when Fox News tells you it’s time to get indignant. And then, because it’s something as benign as an expression of pride in American and praise for racial equality, you all end up looking like a bunch of hate-filled crazies. Which, well, you are. Death threats to an elementary school? Come on, where’s your decency?

    Livewire: the “citation” gotcha is sooooo aol chat-room, circa 2002. Which is where and when you probably still hang out.

    Comment by william — September 27, 2009 @ 9:00 pm - September 27, 2009

  50. what about all those school kids who sung their song praising George Bush’s response to Katrina (of all things)? Was there any anger from the right about that?

    Perhaps you should reprint the lyrics to that song for us, William. After all, you can do that, right? Certainly you would have no trouble comparing that to the Obama song that praised Obama, only Obama, and didn’t mention or praise anyone else, right?

    Meanwhile, given that Obama openly OPPOSES racial equality and states that black people should not have to meet or follow the same standards as white people, it seems your definition needs a bit of work.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — September 27, 2009 @ 9:33 pm - September 27, 2009

  51. #49: “The original song is titled “Jesus Loves the Little Children.” Who’s the bad Christian now, Sean? Heck, even that “librul” teacher who forced the songs on her class, she knew what the song’s title was!”

    So, you don’t dispute that the teacher lifted lyrics from a song that praises Jesus Christ, and inserted them into a song praising Barack Obama. Got it. And william, I have a problem with anything in the public schools that comes between parents and children regarding political issues, no matter what the ideology. I also support students’ free speech rights and the right for them to pray on school grounds if they choose to do so. But this isn’t a free speech issue. Obviously, you think it’s okay for a government employee to decide that because she supports Obama and his policies, then she has the right to force children to sing songs praising him. You call it “benign” because you believe it’s benign, and if a child’s parent disagrees, well then, he or she is just some hate-filled crazy. That’s the difference. I condemn teachers instructing children to sing songs praising George W. Bush OR Barack Obama because it is up to parents to decide how to raise their children and what values they want to instill. You’re only willing to condemn the instruction of children on political matters that you disagree with.

    Comment by Sean A — September 27, 2009 @ 9:40 pm - September 27, 2009

  52. Well, whaddya know. A poster depicting Obama as Hitler at a townhall meeting has been linked to a Democrat/Union plant:

    http://theblogprof.blogspot.com/2009/08/busted-obama-as-hitler-poster-was.html

    Wow. Never saw that coming.

    Comment by Sean A — September 27, 2009 @ 9:48 pm - September 27, 2009

  53. I knew it was only a matter of time before that fiery paranoia reared its’ head. Watch out, Evil Obama’s trying to brainwash our children!!! And he hates white people!! And, back to the original post’s main point, with delusion and idiocy like this at the “mainstream” of conservatism, it’s no surprise that violence has been creeping in at the edges. You and the likes of Stormfront, more and more, you’re all spouting the same talking points. But since it doesn’t appear that anyone’s interested in acknowledging anything but their own victimized outrage, I guess I’ll leave you to your atrophied echo chamber.

    Comment by william — September 27, 2009 @ 10:26 pm - September 27, 2009

  54. #53: Ummmmm, speaking of “firey paranoia”…

    Comment by Sean A — September 27, 2009 @ 10:35 pm - September 27, 2009

  55. And when asked to, you know, back up his information, our latest little letter person’s reply is “I’m taking my ball and going home. How dare you ask me to back up my statements.”

    Comment by The_Livewire — September 28, 2009 @ 6:58 am - September 28, 2009

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