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		<title>By: GayPatriot &#187; So, you think Obama&#8217;s a pragmatist?</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayPatriot &#187; So, you think Obama&#8217;s a pragmatist?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] deserves greater prominence on this blog.  Such was my remark to a critic&#8217;s point that during the 2008 campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination: Hillary was very much seen as the real liberal by her followers, with Obama as the pragmatist [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] deserves greater prominence on this blog.  Such was my remark to a critic&#8217;s point that during the 2008 campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination: Hillary was very much seen as the real liberal by her followers, with Obama as the pragmatist [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/27/socialists-big-losers-in-german-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-486565</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>German stock market soars on the news:
http://seekingalpha.com/article/163867-germany-etf-soars-on-election-news?source=article_lb_articles

(The article talks about a Germany ETF soaring, but that ETF only tracks an index of 50 German stocks.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>German stock market soars on the news:<br />
<a href="http://seekingalpha.com/article/163867-germany-etf-soars-on-election-news?source=article_lb_articles" rel="nofollow">http://seekingalpha.com/article/163867-germany-etf-soars-on-election-news?source=article_lb_articles</a></p>
<p>(The article talks about a Germany ETF soaring, but that ETF only tracks an index of 50 German stocks.)</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/27/socialists-big-losers-in-german-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-486528</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mulch, welcome! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mulch, welcome! <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mulch</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/27/socialists-big-losers-in-german-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-486485</link>
		<dc:creator>Mulch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tano you rely on second hand information? You funny! 

I have been living and working in Germany since 1994 after I ETS&#039;d from the Army. 

The FDP can be compared to the Libertarian party but without all the fruitcakes. They demand less government and more self choice. The want taxes lowered on busineses so that they have a larger hiring power. They also demand lower taxes on the middle and lower class so that they have a stronger buying power. They want to do away with useless welfare programs that have done nothing except force people to stay on the system or starve. 

The CDU/CSU are middle of the road. They support the above but have been forced to comprimise over the last 4 years because of blackmail tactics of the SPD. The CDU/CSU now have the chance to shine. Under Angie they will. 

What do I base my FACTS on? Simple I am a card carrying member of the FDP. One of the few foreign members of the party. I am not allowed to vote in any election except for the foreign city council of the city where I live. Of whice I was a member for almost 10 years. the City of Erlangen and now Leichlingen. 

Fun stuff those untwisted facts aren&#039;t they. You like to dress things up. Germany is my turf. You want to try and debunk this post you are welcome to it. But I will come back with facts. 

The bottom line is that Europe is being over run with foreigners and quickly losing its identity. We are tired of it. We are tired of being called racists by people like you. We are tired of being made fun of by people like you. Arrogant people who can&#039;t tell the difference between a pear and an orange because you will study both and decide that they are both because there is no absolute. 

Westerwelle has been heard to say that he hopes Obama comes back to Germany to sell his &quot;spend your way out of recession&quot; bullshit. So that he can flip Urkel the bird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tano you rely on second hand information? You funny! </p>
<p>I have been living and working in Germany since 1994 after I ETS&#8217;d from the Army. </p>
<p>The FDP can be compared to the Libertarian party but without all the fruitcakes. They demand less government and more self choice. The want taxes lowered on busineses so that they have a larger hiring power. They also demand lower taxes on the middle and lower class so that they have a stronger buying power. They want to do away with useless welfare programs that have done nothing except force people to stay on the system or starve. </p>
<p>The CDU/CSU are middle of the road. They support the above but have been forced to comprimise over the last 4 years because of blackmail tactics of the SPD. The CDU/CSU now have the chance to shine. Under Angie they will. </p>
<p>What do I base my FACTS on? Simple I am a card carrying member of the FDP. One of the few foreign members of the party. I am not allowed to vote in any election except for the foreign city council of the city where I live. Of whice I was a member for almost 10 years. the City of Erlangen and now Leichlingen. </p>
<p>Fun stuff those untwisted facts aren&#8217;t they. You like to dress things up. Germany is my turf. You want to try and debunk this post you are welcome to it. But I will come back with facts. </p>
<p>The bottom line is that Europe is being over run with foreigners and quickly losing its identity. We are tired of it. We are tired of being called racists by people like you. We are tired of being made fun of by people like you. Arrogant people who can&#8217;t tell the difference between a pear and an orange because you will study both and decide that they are both because there is no absolute. </p>
<p>Westerwelle has been heard to say that he hopes Obama comes back to Germany to sell his &#8220;spend your way out of recession&#8221; bullshit. So that he can flip Urkel the bird.</p>
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		<title>By: Kamikapse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kamikapse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tano is absolutely correct.

The CDU / CSU are about as &quot;conservative&quot; as the Democrats... 
You probably don&#039;t know Germany as well as you think you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tano is absolutely correct.</p>
<p>The CDU / CSU are about as &#8220;conservative&#8221; as the Democrats&#8230;<br />
You probably don&#8217;t know Germany as well as you think you do.</p>
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		<title>By: heliotrope</title>
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		<dc:creator>heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#10 Tano says&lt;blockquote&gt;The right advocates deregulation as an article of faith. Liberals understand that there is an appropriate level of regulation necessary for the efficient working of markets, and that in any particular sector, at any particular time, the appropriate thing to do might be to increase regulation, or to decrease it, or to leave it alone. Thats a big differnce from the right.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Sorry, Tano, when you say the right advocates deregulation as an article of faith, you make no sense. The entire concept of law and order is a recognition of the necessity of regulation.

The right opposes micro management of the private sector through federal regulation. 

What amuses me most is your goofy statement that &quot;Liberals understand that there is an appropriate level of regulation necessary for the efficient working of markets, and that in any particular sector, at any particular time, the appropriate thing to do might be to increase regulation, or to decrease it, or to leave it alone.&quot; 

All those Czars the Obamessiah has unleashed on the bureaucracy are not out looking for ways to decrease regulation. They are in charge of insinuating big government into every nook and cranny of everyday life. 

Just for grins, what is the last effort any liberal took to decrease regulation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#10 Tano says<br />
<blockquote>The right advocates deregulation as an article of faith. Liberals understand that there is an appropriate level of regulation necessary for the efficient working of markets, and that in any particular sector, at any particular time, the appropriate thing to do might be to increase regulation, or to decrease it, or to leave it alone. Thats a big differnce from the right.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sorry, Tano, when you say the right advocates deregulation as an article of faith, you make no sense. The entire concept of law and order is a recognition of the necessity of regulation.</p>
<p>The right opposes micro management of the private sector through federal regulation. </p>
<p>What amuses me most is your goofy statement that &#8220;Liberals understand that there is an appropriate level of regulation necessary for the efficient working of markets, and that in any particular sector, at any particular time, the appropriate thing to do might be to increase regulation, or to decrease it, or to leave it alone.&#8221; </p>
<p>All those Czars the Obamessiah has unleashed on the bureaucracy are not out looking for ways to decrease regulation. They are in charge of insinuating big government into every nook and cranny of everyday life. </p>
<p>Just for grins, what is the last effort any liberal took to decrease regulation?</p>
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		<title>By: heliotrope</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/27/socialists-big-losers-in-german-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-486033</link>
		<dc:creator>heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iIn #5 Tano says&lt;blockquote&gt;Surely you will agree with me that on social safety net issues, Merkel, and Cameron, are at least as lefty as the Democratic Party! &lt;/blockquote&gt;Wow! If you don&#039;t know how to unscramble eggs, you are therefor addicted to scrambled eggs. 

I love the term:&quot;social safety net issues.&quot; Apparently, if a country has a few social safety net programs in place, any person who succeeds to leadership of said country is automatically a lefty because having to administer a lefty installed program makes them proponents of a vast array of &quot;social safety net&quot; programs yet to be hatched. I can see Merkel sitting down to create a social safety net program for Bavarians who can&#039;t afford to get drunk daily during Octoberfest.

Conservative leadership in Germany, France, England, etc. are forced to deal with containing the pulsating bloat of rampant social safety net liberal mandates. The fact that their countries are to the left of where the Democrats are pushing the United States does not make the conservative leaders to the left of Obama and his social safety net gang of plotters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iIn #5 Tano says<br />
<blockquote>Surely you will agree with me that on social safety net issues, Merkel, and Cameron, are at least as lefty as the Democratic Party! </p></blockquote>
<p>Wow! If you don&#8217;t know how to unscramble eggs, you are therefor addicted to scrambled eggs. </p>
<p>I love the term:&#8221;social safety net issues.&#8221; Apparently, if a country has a few social safety net programs in place, any person who succeeds to leadership of said country is automatically a lefty because having to administer a lefty installed program makes them proponents of a vast array of &#8220;social safety net&#8221; programs yet to be hatched. I can see Merkel sitting down to create a social safety net program for Bavarians who can&#8217;t afford to get drunk daily during Octoberfest.</p>
<p>Conservative leadership in Germany, France, England, etc. are forced to deal with containing the pulsating bloat of rampant social safety net liberal mandates. The fact that their countries are to the left of where the Democrats are pushing the United States does not make the conservative leaders to the left of Obama and his social safety net gang of plotters.</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/27/socialists-big-losers-in-german-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-485959</link>
		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 06:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Plus there’s still the SEIU and other unions who can move voters from one state to the other. Then there’s the felons, illegals and folks without ID who’ll most likely be given a cleared path to the voting booths.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Ah, but thats not how it works. 

The Democrats&#039; vote fraud is much simpler than that. They dont need to move voters around, it is enough to have phony vote registrations. ACORN registers thousands of ficticious voters and when the election is close, Democrat precincts miraculously &quot;find&quot; thousands of votes, that appeared out of nowhere when no one was looking. 

Its how they&#039;ve done it twice in Washington State, and how Al Franken stole that election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Plus there’s still the SEIU and other unions who can move voters from one state to the other. Then there’s the felons, illegals and folks without ID who’ll most likely be given a cleared path to the voting booths.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah, but thats not how it works. </p>
<p>The Democrats&#8217; vote fraud is much simpler than that. They dont need to move voters around, it is enough to have phony vote registrations. ACORN registers thousands of ficticious voters and when the election is close, Democrat precincts miraculously &#8220;find&#8221; thousands of votes, that appeared out of nowhere when no one was looking. </p>
<p>Its how they&#8217;ve done it twice in Washington State, and how Al Franken stole that election.</p>
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		<title>By: Man</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/27/socialists-big-losers-in-german-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-485922</link>
		<dc:creator>Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 04:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although Mrs. Merkel supports greater free enterprise and reduced taxes, we shouldn&#039;t assume she is automatically a friend of the US and count on Germany&#039;s support on important international issues. Because Germany imports most of its natural gas from Russia, she has dangerously tilted toward Russia. She took Russia&#039;s position re Georgia and Ukraine among other issues. Mr. Obama&#039;s and Mrs. Clinton&#039;s foreign policy is in a shambles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although Mrs. Merkel supports greater free enterprise and reduced taxes, we shouldn&#8217;t assume she is automatically a friend of the US and count on Germany&#8217;s support on important international issues. Because Germany imports most of its natural gas from Russia, she has dangerously tilted toward Russia. She took Russia&#8217;s position re Georgia and Ukraine among other issues. Mr. Obama&#8217;s and Mrs. Clinton&#8217;s foreign policy is in a shambles.</p>
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		<title>By: Man</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/27/socialists-big-losers-in-german-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-485920</link>
		<dc:creator>Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 04:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, Portugal has again voted Socialist.
The endless and pointless debates with Tano really are getting boring. What point does he/she have to make that he/she hasn&#039;t made; and what&#039;s the point of refuting what he/she says? Let&#039;s get on with more enlightening conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, Portugal has again voted Socialist.<br />
The endless and pointless debates with Tano really are getting boring. What point does he/she have to make that he/she hasn&#8217;t made; and what&#8217;s the point of refuting what he/she says? Let&#8217;s get on with more enlightening conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/27/socialists-big-losers-in-german-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-485912</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 03:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And one of the Democrats’ key voter-fraud arms has just been taken down.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Down, but not out. Plus there&#039;s still the SEIU and other unions who can move voters from one state to the other. Then there&#039;s the felons, illegals and folks without ID who&#039;ll most likely be given a cleared path to the voting booths. I&#039;d bet a $787 billion porkulus bill on it (I don&#039;t have money of my own to wager).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And one of the Democrats’ key voter-fraud arms has just been taken down.</p></blockquote>
<p>Down, but not out. Plus there&#8217;s still the SEIU and other unions who can move voters from one state to the other. Then there&#8217;s the felons, illegals and folks without ID who&#8217;ll most likely be given a cleared path to the voting booths. I&#8217;d bet a $787 billion porkulus bill on it (I don&#8217;t have money of my own to wager).</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/27/socialists-big-losers-in-german-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-485899</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 02:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s also interesting that of the G-8, Obama is the most liberal and most America hating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also interesting that of the G-8, Obama is the most liberal and most America hating.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/27/socialists-big-losers-in-german-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-485898</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 02:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. After the UK... the U.S. will be next, in 2010 and 2012.  Show me a person with good sense and I&#039;ll show you someone who instinctively hates socialism.  Obama is overreaching and in over his head.  The American people will find their good sense.  And one of the Democrats&#039; key voter-fraud arms has just been taken down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. After the UK&#8230; the U.S. will be next, in 2010 and 2012.  Show me a person with good sense and I&#8217;ll show you someone who instinctively hates socialism.  Obama is overreaching and in over his head.  The American people will find their good sense.  And one of the Democrats&#8217; key voter-fraud arms has just been taken down.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/27/socialists-big-losers-in-german-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-485897</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 02:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Funny, but most everyone in the Democratic party seems to disagree with you (unless you think there is a big difference between Bill and Hill).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hell yeah. The liberals fight tooth and nail to fool everyone into thinking that they aren&#039;t the radical leftists they truly are. That&#039;s why they have to pretend to be &quot;centrist&quot; to get anywhere.

If you actually ran on what you believe and how you govern, you wouldn&#039;t exist outside of humor articles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Funny, but most everyone in the Democratic party seems to disagree with you (unless you think there is a big difference between Bill and Hill).</p></blockquote>
<p>Hell yeah. The liberals fight tooth and nail to fool everyone into thinking that they aren&#8217;t the radical leftists they truly are. That&#8217;s why they have to pretend to be &#8220;centrist&#8221; to get anywhere.</p>
<p>If you actually ran on what you believe and how you govern, you wouldn&#8217;t exist outside of humor articles.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/27/socialists-big-losers-in-german-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-485893</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 02:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;the gains by the Left and Green parties do not alone account for the percentage lost by SPD. It seems those voters “defected from the left to the German most “committed to open markets and free competition“.&lt;/blockquote&gt;That is awesome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the gains by the Left and Green parties do not alone account for the percentage lost by SPD. It seems those voters “defected from the left to the German most “committed to open markets and free competition“.</p></blockquote>
<p>That is awesome!</p>
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		<title>By: Gene in Pennsylvania</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene in Pennsylvania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny, even when the liberal socialists lose their American trolls say they won. Even as Obama bungles his way along, his toadies say &quot;hey everything is great, no problem.....&quot;
Someone&#039;s in for a huge awakening come 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny, even when the liberal socialists lose their American trolls say they won. Even as Obama bungles his way along, his toadies say &#8220;hey everything is great, no problem&#8230;..&#8221;<br />
Someone&#8217;s in for a huge awakening come 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashpenaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashpenaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 00:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was either this for Andrea Merkel or becoming Conan O&#039; Brien&#039;s replacement host.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was either this for Andrea Merkel or becoming Conan O&#8217; Brien&#8217;s replacement host.</p>
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		<title>By: B. Daniel Blatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>B. Daniel Blatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 23:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tano, to call Obama a pragmatist is to rely on his campaign rhetoric as a source of information and ignore his voting record in the Senate and his actions as President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tano, to call Obama a pragmatist is to rely on his campaign rhetoric as a source of information and ignore his voting record in the Senate and his actions as President.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 23:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#10: &quot;&#039;we have a government that wants to boost the size of the state.&#039;
I wouldn’t say that - we have a government that is not ideologically opposed to the state stepping in, temporarily, to protect the economy from melting down.&quot;

Of course you would say that, Tano.  And that&#039;s why instead of calling you a &quot;liberal Democrat with a reasonable contrary opinion,&quot; we would call you &quot;a weak-minded, Orwellian, propaganda-spewing Obamabot.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#10: &#8220;&#8216;we have a government that wants to boost the size of the state.&#8217;<br />
I wouldn’t say that &#8211; we have a government that is not ideologically opposed to the state stepping in, temporarily, to protect the economy from melting down.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course you would say that, Tano.  And that&#8217;s why instead of calling you a &#8220;liberal Democrat with a reasonable contrary opinion,&#8221; we would call you &#8220;a weak-minded, Orwellian, propaganda-spewing Obamabot.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 23:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,

Liberals, especially of the Obama type, are pragamatists far more than being ideologues. As you know, the first wave of deregulation was started by a Democrat, even though it was much further advanced by the right.
The right advocates deregulation as an article of faith. Liberals understand that there is an appropriate level of regulation necessary for the efficient working of markets, and that in any particular sector, at any particular time, the appropriate thing to do might be to increase regulation, or to decrease it, or to leave it alone. Thats a big differnce from the right.

So claiming that Merkel is for deregulation does not necessarily put her in proximity to the American right on the political spectrum. It might be the type of regulations that Obama-Clinton democrats might support.

&quot;The Germans have a government that wants to deregulate and privatize&quot;

What are they going to privatize?

&quot;we have a government that wants to boost the size of the state.&quot;

I wouldn&#039;t say that - we have a government that is not ideologically opposed to the state stepping in, temporarily, to protect the economy from melting down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>Liberals, especially of the Obama type, are pragamatists far more than being ideologues. As you know, the first wave of deregulation was started by a Democrat, even though it was much further advanced by the right.<br />
The right advocates deregulation as an article of faith. Liberals understand that there is an appropriate level of regulation necessary for the efficient working of markets, and that in any particular sector, at any particular time, the appropriate thing to do might be to increase regulation, or to decrease it, or to leave it alone. Thats a big differnce from the right.</p>
<p>So claiming that Merkel is for deregulation does not necessarily put her in proximity to the American right on the political spectrum. It might be the type of regulations that Obama-Clinton democrats might support.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Germans have a government that wants to deregulate and privatize&#8221;</p>
<p>What are they going to privatize?</p>
<p>&#8220;we have a government that wants to boost the size of the state.&#8221;</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say that &#8211; we have a government that is not ideologically opposed to the state stepping in, temporarily, to protect the economy from melting down.</p>
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