Comments on: A Military Coup in the US of A? What? http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/30/a-military-coup-in-the-us-of-a-what/ The Internet home for American gay conservatives. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:00:47 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Sean A http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/30/a-military-coup-in-the-us-of-a-what/comment-page-1/#comment-487705 Sean A Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:40:51 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=17132#comment-487705 #22: What a shock. bob cites to Thomas Friedman, slobbering admirer of the advantages of authoritarian rule in China: "One-party autocracy certainly has its drawbacks. But when it is led by a reasonably enlightened group of people, as China is today, it can also have great advantages. That one party can just impose the politically difficult but critically important policies needed to move a society forward in the 21st century." Translation: Totalitarianism is a fabulous idea, it just hasn't worked before because the wrong people were in charge. Hmmm. Where have I heard that before? #22: What a shock. bob cites to Thomas Friedman, slobbering admirer of the advantages of authoritarian rule in China:

“One-party autocracy certainly has its drawbacks. But when it is led by a reasonably enlightened group of people, as China is today, it can also have great advantages. That one party can just impose the politically difficult but critically important policies needed to move a society forward in the 21st century.”

Translation: Totalitarianism is a fabulous idea, it just hasn’t worked before because the wrong people were in charge.

Hmmm. Where have I heard that before?

]]> By: ThatGayConservative http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/30/a-military-coup-in-the-us-of-a-what/comment-page-1/#comment-487576 ThatGayConservative Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:27:34 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=17132#comment-487576 <blockquote>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/30/opinion/30friedman.html?_r=1&ref=opinion</blockquote> Well surely you have no problem finding actual evidence of your claim, right?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/30/opinion/30friedman.html?_r=1&ref=opinion

Well surely you have no problem finding actual evidence of your claim, right?

]]> By: The_Livewire http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/30/a-military-coup-in-the-us-of-a-what/comment-page-1/#comment-487550 The_Livewire Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:07:21 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=17132#comment-487550 Awww, Bob, how sweet of you. You post *another* link to someone who laments we don't have a central government, then is afraid of free speech. Then again, for a Facist like you, I'm not surprised. Awww, Bob, how sweet of you.

You post *another* link to someone who laments we don’t have a central government, then is afraid of free speech.

Then again, for a Facist like you, I’m not surprised.

]]> By: bob (aka boob) http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/30/a-military-coup-in-the-us-of-a-what/comment-page-1/#comment-487389 bob (aka boob) Thu, 01 Oct 2009 02:34:00 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=17132#comment-487389 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/30/opinion/30friedman.html?_r=1&ref=opinion http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/30/opinion/30friedman.html?_r=1&ref=opinion

]]> By: ThatGayConservative http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/30/a-military-coup-in-the-us-of-a-what/comment-page-1/#comment-487388 ThatGayConservative Thu, 01 Oct 2009 02:33:41 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=17132#comment-487388 <blockquote>Give it a rest and admidt. The right is unhinged and likely has “jumped the shark”</blockquote> Well surely you have no problem finding actual evidence of your claim, right?

Give it a rest and admidt. The right is unhinged and likely has “jumped the shark”

Well surely you have no problem finding actual evidence of your claim, right?

]]> By: Mitchell Blatt http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/30/a-military-coup-in-the-us-of-a-what/comment-page-1/#comment-487386 Mitchell Blatt Thu, 01 Oct 2009 02:30:56 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=17132#comment-487386 It doesn't matter if he's a lib or con: The only way it would matter is if one person--and an obscure person at that--could define a whole movement. (Also, he wrote for a conservative site.) His article was stupid regardless of whether he was a con or lib. It doesn’t matter if he’s a lib or con: The only way it would matter is if one person–and an obscure person at that–could define a whole movement.

(Also, he wrote for a conservative site.)

His article was stupid regardless of whether he was a con or lib.

]]> By: gillie http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/30/a-military-coup-in-the-us-of-a-what/comment-page-1/#comment-487367 gillie Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:36:10 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=17132#comment-487367 Not a conservative??? puh-leeze his name of the column? "Right Angles" Newsmax's mission statement: "largest independent monthly with a conservative perspective." Give it a rest and admidt. The right is unhinged and likely has "jumped the shark" Not a conservative???
puh-leeze
his name of the column? “Right Angles”
Newsmax’s mission statement:
“largest independent monthly with a conservative perspective.”

Give it a rest and admidt. The right is unhinged and likely has “jumped the shark”

]]> By: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 — ExposeTheMedia.com http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/30/a-military-coup-in-the-us-of-a-what/comment-page-1/#comment-487311 Wednesday, September 30, 2009 — ExposeTheMedia.com Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:25:13 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=17132#comment-487311 [...]  A Military Coup in the US of A? What?  [...] [...]  A Military Coup in the US of A? What?  [...]

]]> By: John http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/30/a-military-coup-in-the-us-of-a-what/comment-page-1/#comment-487290 John Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:39:40 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=17132#comment-487290 Dan: Just wait, some liberal will point out that "duh! this is why he is a <i>neo-con</i>!", i.e. someone who used to be liberal and then supposedly went conservative. This kind of nonsense makes for a great fictional novel but in the real world it's just lunacy and sure as hell has NOTHING to do with conservatism! Dan: Just wait, some liberal will point out that “duh! this is why he is a neo-con!”, i.e. someone who used to be liberal and then supposedly went conservative. This kind of nonsense makes for a great fictional novel but in the real world it’s just lunacy and sure as hell has NOTHING to do with conservatism!

]]> By: John http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/30/a-military-coup-in-the-us-of-a-what/comment-page-1/#comment-487288 John Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:37:34 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=17132#comment-487288 Gillie: Recall of the president is unconstitutional but you may be right. Guess what? It appears that the American appetite for divided government is returning. Obama's poll numbers won't save the Dems in Congress. So I suppose we get to enjoy the best and worst that divided government brings until 2012 or 2016. Gillie: Recall of the president is unconstitutional but you may be right. Guess what? It appears that the American appetite for divided government is returning. Obama’s poll numbers won’t save the Dems in Congress. So I suppose we get to enjoy the best and worst that divided government brings until 2012 or 2016.

]]> By: torrentprime http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/30/a-military-coup-in-the-us-of-a-what/comment-page-1/#comment-487258 torrentprime Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:32:54 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=17132#comment-487258 Good post, BDB. Nice to see a conservative blog starting to call the extremist right on its insanity. Good post, BDB. Nice to see a conservative blog starting to call the extremist right on its insanity.

]]> By: gillie http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/30/a-military-coup-in-the-us-of-a-what/comment-page-1/#comment-487242 gillie Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:47:29 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=17132#comment-487242 "can we have a recall vote now?" Yes and you would lose. As insane as this might make you, Obama is still popular http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/09/polls-despite-seemingly-rough-few-months-obama-can-smile.php?ref=fpb “can we have a recall vote now?”

Yes and you would lose.

As insane as this might make you, Obama is still popular

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/09/polls-despite-seemingly-rough-few-months-obama-can-smile.php?ref=fpb

]]> By: ThatGayConservative http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/30/a-military-coup-in-the-us-of-a-what/comment-page-1/#comment-487216 ThatGayConservative Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:57:07 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=17132#comment-487216 Like the liberals used to say not so long ago, can we have a recall vote now? Like the liberals used to say not so long ago, can we have a recall vote now?

]]> By: B. Daniel Blatt http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/30/a-military-coup-in-the-us-of-a-what/comment-page-1/#comment-487212 B. Daniel Blatt Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:44:44 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=17132#comment-487212 Hmm, Houston, you do have projection issues. While you call the Perry a "respected" conservative, most serious conservatives are denouncing his piece. I'm hardly equivocating, but you do have a nice manner of communication: name-calling. But, thank you (and to Rolf as well) for helping confirm one of my points about our left-wing critics, ever eager to ignore our points and instead attack us personally. Hmm, Houston, you do have projection issues. While you call the Perry a “respected” conservative, most serious conservatives are denouncing his piece. I’m hardly equivocating, but you do have a nice manner of communication: name-calling.

But, thank you (and to Rolf as well) for helping confirm one of my points about our left-wing critics, ever eager to ignore our points and instead attack us personally.

]]> By: rssg http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/30/a-military-coup-in-the-us-of-a-what/comment-page-1/#comment-487201 rssg Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:16:52 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=17132#comment-487201 While I admit it's extreme, as a serious student of history, particularly military history, I have entertained this idea as well. Hussein bin Obama is not merely a liberal. He's a far-left idealogue, with very real anti-American views. In my humble opinion, Obama is unfit to be the US President. He is anti-free market economics - the cornerstone of our country. He is a near pacifist. He has repeatedly insulted this nation, it's history and it's people, over and over. He needs to go in my opinion. One way or another, he needs to go. While I admit it’s extreme, as a serious student of history, particularly military history, I have entertained this idea as well.

Hussein bin Obama is not merely a liberal. He’s a far-left idealogue, with very real anti-American views. In my humble opinion, Obama is unfit to be the US President.

He is anti-free market economics – the cornerstone of our country. He is a near pacifist. He has repeatedly insulted this nation, it’s history and it’s people, over and over.

He needs to go in my opinion. One way or another, he needs to go.

]]> By: John http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/30/a-military-coup-in-the-us-of-a-what/comment-page-1/#comment-487200 John Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:14:59 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=17132#comment-487200 I could only see the military stepping in if there were a total collapse of the government or a serious threat to the Constitution from a coup attempt by other forces. And by "serious threat" I mean <i>direct</i> subversion, not the alleged consequences of policy differences that can be colored by partisanship. As much as I disagree with President Obama, to even suggest such in this case is try buffoonery. Of course if memory serves, many on the Left were making the same claim about Dubya. Some "coup plotter" he turned out to be... I could only see the military stepping in if there were a total collapse of the government or a serious threat to the Constitution from a coup attempt by other forces. And by “serious threat” I mean direct subversion, not the alleged consequences of policy differences that can be colored by partisanship. As much as I disagree with President Obama, to even suggest such in this case is try buffoonery.

Of course if memory serves, many on the Left were making the same claim about Dubya. Some “coup plotter” he turned out to be…

]]> By: Ted B. http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/30/a-military-coup-in-the-us-of-a-what/comment-page-1/#comment-487191 Ted B. Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:01:00 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=17132#comment-487191 The US is about the most "military coup"-proof nation amongst the industrial powers. The military officer corps is drawn from primarily the middle and lower-middle classes through the offer of free education, the troops are mostly middle-class volunteers and many long-service professionals...and half the units are National Guard formations with strong regional-cohesion and local command-and-control. And our home-based Regulars are primarily barracks far from population centers...and the domestic population is armed to the teeth compared to almost any nation, including Switzerland. The common Left-wing scenario of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs leading a successful coup is belied by the reality he'd probably be among the first to shoot the plotters if they seized the Oval Office. And the General and Flag Ranks are full of well educated professionals most with advanced degrees in Law, Poli. Sci., History and otyer very-practical studies. Today, you almost can't become a Major General or Vice Admiral with out a Ph.D...or two. The US is about the most “military coup”-proof nation amongst the industrial powers. The military officer corps is drawn from primarily the middle and lower-middle classes through the offer of free education, the troops are mostly middle-class volunteers and many long-service professionals…and half the units are National Guard formations with strong regional-cohesion and local command-and-control. And our home-based Regulars are primarily barracks far from population centers…and the domestic population is armed to the teeth compared to almost any nation, including Switzerland.

The common Left-wing scenario of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs leading a successful coup is belied by the reality he’d probably be among the first to shoot the plotters if they seized the Oval Office. And the General and Flag Ranks are full of well educated professionals most with advanced degrees in Law, Poli. Sci., History and otyer very-practical studies. Today, you almost can’t become a Major General or Vice Admiral with out a Ph.D…or two.

]]> By: Stone K http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/30/a-military-coup-in-the-us-of-a-what/comment-page-1/#comment-487185 Stone K Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:55:08 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=17132#comment-487185 We are going to see more and more of this tripe. The further we get in to Obama's term and the more and more he fouls up, the more the left will start jumping at shadows. they have been so desperate to have power they are actually afraid to lose it... The far left has always feared the military, since the 60's their venomous hatred has been worn on their sleeves and around their necks. Maybe it's because the military and it's supporters are seen as the only ones who stand between them and this total utopia they dream of (yes that sounds conspiratorial in an of it's self). All I can say is if the military did not go in to full revolt under Clinton and his rape of the budget and dismantlement of the greatest fighting force in the world, I doubt the military will turn on obama over health care and because the war in Afghanistan... Besides... if it's the military why would they go bloodless? I mean you have all the cool stuff that makes things go boom... use them.. Just my opinion. We are going to see more and more of this tripe. The further we get in to Obama’s term and the more and more he fouls up, the more the left will start jumping at shadows. they have been so desperate to have power they are actually afraid to lose it…

The far left has always feared the military, since the 60′s their venomous hatred has been worn on their sleeves and around their necks. Maybe it’s because the military and it’s supporters are seen as the only ones who stand between them and this total utopia they dream of (yes that sounds conspiratorial in an of it’s self).

All I can say is if the military did not go in to full revolt under Clinton and his rape of the budget and dismantlement of the greatest fighting force in the world, I doubt the military will turn on obama over health care and because the war in Afghanistan…

Besides… if it’s the military why would they go bloodless? I mean you have all the cool stuff that makes things go boom… use them..

Just my opinion.

]]> By: Rolf Peeters http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/30/a-military-coup-in-the-us-of-a-what/comment-page-1/#comment-487182 Rolf Peeters Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:46:40 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=17132#comment-487182 The Gay Patriot is pissed he isn't allowed to join in the right's military coup reindeer games. After the military ousts Obama, the Gay Patriot's ass is next in the firing line. The Gay Patriot is pissed he isn’t allowed to join in the right’s military coup reindeer games.

After the military ousts Obama, the Gay Patriot’s ass is next in the firing line.

]]> By: MFS http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/30/a-military-coup-in-the-us-of-a-what/comment-page-1/#comment-487176 MFS Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:43:36 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=17132#comment-487176 Food for thought: a large percentage of my leftish friends were convinced - convinced like metaphyisical certitude - that Bush would declare a state of emergency and continue ruling as a despot. Has anyone seen any polling on this? Or is it just the low-rent quality of the Bolsheviks I pal around with? Best wishes, -MFS Food for thought: a large percentage of my leftish friends were convinced – convinced like metaphyisical certitude – that Bush would declare a state of emergency and continue ruling as a despot. Has anyone seen any polling on this? Or is it just the low-rent quality of the Bolsheviks I pal around with?

Best wishes,
-MFS

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