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The (Unexpected) Integrity of Many Gay Left Bloggers

No sooner do I post on yesterday’s march, thinking I’ve all but exhausted the topic that when reading two of my major sources for news and blog ideas, I chance upon the White House’s (apparently) strange reaction to the rally.

Quoting CNBC’s Chief Washington Correspondent John Harwood, left-of-center blogger John Aravosis concludes that the White House has dismissed the protesters as a left-wing “fringe”:

NBC just did a piece about today’s gay rights march in Washington. For the political context of the gay community’s ire, NBC went to Chief Washington Correspondent John Harwood. Harwood was asked if the White House was worried about “the left as a whole,” and concerns they have that the White House isn’t doing things that “the left” expected them to do. Harwood said the following:

Barack Obama is doing well with 90% or more of Democrats so the White House views this opposition as really part of the Internet left fringe.

Now, to be fair to the Administration, we don’t know what the White House officials (with whom Harwood spoke) actually.  That correspondent was making a general observation and not quoting anyone in particular.  Actual Obama spokespeople may not have so dismissed the rally, so I would caution* Aravosis against getting too worked about about this journalist’s observation.

That said, Aravsosis is onto something.   The Administration seem to think they can “buy off” gay people by playing nice with the heads of various gay organizations (and prominent community activists), inviting them to the White House for cocktails, speaking to HRC’s dinner.  They are aware of how gay leaders fawned all over Bill Clinton in the 1990s while that Democrat said all the right things, but, (almost) never did anything which he feared could hurt him politically, even when it meant breaking the promises he made to gay people on the campaign trail.

Seeing how many gay Democrats were lickspittles, more eager to support a Democrat than stand up for their issues, Obama’s team surely assumed playing nice would be enough.  But, they didn’t take into account the bloggers.  In 1993, when Clinton backpedalled on his promise to repeal the ban on gays in the military and in 1996, when he signed DOMA*, there was no blogosphere, that is, there were fewer means for gay people at odds with our (supposedly) “official” representatives to make themselves heard.

Now, there is.  I have to say that while I do delight in mocking gay leftists for their sometimes seemingly slavish support of Democrats, I have been most impressed with the integrity of many left-wing gay bloggers.  They haven’t marched in lockstep with an Administration, even one they helped elect.  And it’s not just in dealing with a Democratic Administration.  While most gay organizations have been silent on the persecution of our fellows living under oppressive Islamic regimes, many gay bloggers on the left have covered their plight, with one blogger even organizing rallies on behalf of gay victims of Islamofascism.

These bloggers are hardly a fringe of the gay community, indeed, they may well be representative of it.  Nearly every gay Democrat I talk to has expressed the same frustration as do these left-of-center bloggers.   They may agree with a number of things the President has done these past nine months, but they’re appalled at how he has failed to act on the promises he made to the gay community.

So, we should be grateful for the blogosphere–it may well be more representative of our community that the heads of the various gay organizations with their fancy offices and titles and more ready access to the mainstream media.

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*Recall that HRC did not rescind its endorsement of Clinton after he signed that legislation.

Linked by Glenn Reynolds who adds:

My advice to the Gay Left is the same as my advice to the Tea Party Right — if you don’t like what “your” politicians are doing, quit donating to ‘em and run somebody against them in the primary. They’ll notice. And the Gay Left and Tea Party Right might even want to talk to each other; they may find they’ve got more in common than they realize. . . .

Andrew Sullivan also links and echoes my point, “Obama, it seems to me, has made a very dumb mistake: he thinks the Human Rights Campaign is the gay community.” I’ve been saying something similar for years (that HRC does not represent the gay community, but then, to Andrew’s credit, so has he.

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*This post confirms he wisdom of that caution.

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46 Comments

  1. We are ALL teabaggers now! But these guys especially.

    Comment by megapotamus — October 12, 2009 @ 6:51 am - October 12, 2009

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  4. The question will be if they actually do something with their anger, or if like the President, their rhetoric doesn’t match their deeds.

    Comment by The_Livewire — October 12, 2009 @ 8:04 am - October 12, 2009

  5. What are these bloggers complaining about? They should be thanking their lucky stars that they’re allowed to bask in the splendiferous awesomeness of His Nobelity. Hell, they should feel damn lucky they’re even sharing the same temporal plane of existence as Lord Zero.

    Ingrates!

    Comment by MarkJ — October 12, 2009 @ 8:06 am - October 12, 2009

  6. The tea party was a fringe element, the gay community is a fringe element, the Republican party are terrorists, Rush and Sean are bad guys, and the Obama’s war on America expands by the day. I wonder if the liberals and gay community will just take Obama’s disrespect and like it, or if they will also stand up to Obama and work hard to defeat his agenda, realizing that he is no more their friend than the enemy.

    Comment by A Conservative Teacher — October 12, 2009 @ 8:35 am - October 12, 2009

  7. Eventually we’ll all be far ______ fringe. Just fill in the blank when your time comes, about 30 seconds after you disagree with O.

    Comment by Patriot Goddess — October 12, 2009 @ 8:52 am - October 12, 2009

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  9. Two things: (1) Obama* has gone back on just about every other campaign promise, why should he be expected to hold true to this one? We are fools to expect such honesty from this man. (2) What I don’t understand is how Obama is so willing to go against public opinion on just about everything else, why would he be worried about his public perception on this issue? There has to be more to it.

    *In this sentence, you can paste just about any Democrat politician’s name.

    Comment by Gay In Oklahoma City — October 12, 2009 @ 9:35 am - October 12, 2009

  10. Sure, I figures that the gay community will get from Obama pretty much what Reagan gave the “Pro-Life” community … lots of words with the best of intentions, but this White House seems to have lost their minds.

    For a sign of how seriously the White House does or doesn’t take this opposition, one adviser told me those bloggers need to take off the pajamas, get dressed, and realize that governing a closely divided country is complicated and difficult.

    Now, every gab at the White House is personal.

    Go ahead Barack et al … insult your critics into submission. Even Bush wasn’t that stupid. I apparently missed this technique for making friends and influencing people.

    Comment by Neo — October 12, 2009 @ 10:07 am - October 12, 2009

  11. I personally wouldn’t be so quick to start handing out integrity certificates just because a few car alarms in the leftist blogosphere are actually voicing their disappointment and/or outrage with the way Obama has been leading them on for over a year. They’re not doing anything other than finally opening their eyes to being conned once again (and by the way, also trying to save face with their readers that they skipped down the primrose hope & change path with last year). It will start looking a bit more like integrity (or perhaps humility) when they start acknowledging what they REALLY don’t want to admit–that we were right and they were wrong. Gay conservatives saw this cluster fu*k coming from miles away and predicted that this is exactly where they would end up with Obama, and not only did they not want to listen–they condemned us as racist haters for entertaining even the slightest skepticism that life would be something less than a daily pride parade starting on January 20, 2009. I believe the traditional expression goes: TOLD YOU SO!

    I’m not ashamed at all for enjoying every minute of the fact that on November 4, 2008, every single one of those leftist idiots thought they were going home with Martin Luther King, Jr. and woke up with Ike Turner.

    Comment by Sean A — October 12, 2009 @ 10:26 am - October 12, 2009

  12. A solid majority of the gay community votes Democratic, and it will again. The gays who are frustrated today will get back on Obama’s bus the very moment the 2012 Republican nominee is announced.

    Many of us voted for John McCain, remember, not because he thrilled us, but because we couldn’t stand the alternative.

    All politics is relative; the rest is just the circle jerk of life.

    Comment by Paul — October 12, 2009 @ 10:46 am - October 12, 2009

  13. Sean writes…

    …on November 4, 2008, every single one of those leftist idiots thought they were going home with Martin Luther King, Jr. and woke up with Ike Turner.

    That was just brilliant…

    Although (and this is not intended to be a critique in any sense of the word), I myself would have substituted Ike Turner for Jesse Jackson. Ike spoke with his fists, you see, whilst Jesse specializes in obtaining submission through division, diversion and obfuscation.

    Comment by Eric Olsen — October 12, 2009 @ 11:01 am - October 12, 2009

  14. Go ahead Barack et al … insult your critics into submission. Even Bush wasn’t that stupid. I apparently missed this technique for making friends and influencing people.

    Well, one has to keep in mind the fact that stupid techniques work well on stupid people.

    Gay conservatives saw this cluster fu*k coming from miles away and predicted that this is exactly where they would end up with Obama, and not only did they not want to listen–they condemned us as racist haters for entertaining even the slightest skepticism that life would be something less than a daily pride parade starting on January 20, 2009.

    When you are dealing with people who are so brainwashed that they insist any disagreement with you constitutes racism, you pretty much can do whatever you want; you just have to remind them that you’re black and in charge, and they will fall into line nicely.

    I want so badly to go over to Aravosis and to Pam Spaulding’s and requote back at them how all disagreement with Obama is motivated by racism and how they should be ashamed of themselves for even thinking such horrible things about Teh One. :)

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — October 12, 2009 @ 11:19 am - October 12, 2009

  15. It’s really hard not to compare Obama to Jasmine in the story arc on Angel. Her supporters were not unlike Obama’s–and those who saw the monster beneath the skin were hunted down and killed.

    Comment by Ashpenaz — October 12, 2009 @ 11:53 am - October 12, 2009

  16. Yeah but Jasmine was Hot just pity we never got to see her on the beach w/o a shirt like we have Obama.

    Ok, Mr. Fishburn’s going to come and kill me now :P

    Comment by The_Livewire — October 12, 2009 @ 12:07 pm - October 12, 2009

  17. to suggest Obama can accomplish his entire agenda within the first six months is ludicrous. patience is needed before judgment can be made. the knee-jerk reactions have been laughable, including the dolts posting on this forum.

    and, certainly, he won’t be sacrificing any political capital within the first year on gay issues. he saw how the right demolished clinton’s enitre agenda throughout the enactment of ‘DADT’

    Comment by buckeyenutlover — October 12, 2009 @ 12:19 pm - October 12, 2009

  18. bnl to English, “I know he’s beating me, but I *still* love him!”

    Comment by The_Livewire — October 12, 2009 @ 12:25 pm - October 12, 2009

  19. to suggest Obama can accomplish his entire agenda within the first six months is ludicrous. patience is needed before judgment can be made.

    Funny, you weren’t saying that last year when both you and Barack Obama were promising that he would.

    What we have happening is typical; lying black man makes promises he can’t keep, lying black man breaks promises, lying black man blames people who point out his broken promises and belittles them as ludicrous knee-jerk racists.

    Problem for bnl and the rest of his Obama Party, though; people are starting to realize the game and recognize that Obama is a liar who uses his skin color to avoid having to follow through or do what he says. That’s why the racist Obama’s only consistent support is among the racist black and “progressive” community.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — October 12, 2009 @ 12:31 pm - October 12, 2009

  20. The White House is trying to take it back. Props for Sullivan for not backing down.

    Oh, and Dan, he mentioned you, in a good way, in a previous blog post today.

    Comment by Sonicfrog — October 12, 2009 @ 1:35 pm - October 12, 2009

  21. A very close associate and friend is gay. He makes me (who’s pretty right wing) seem to be in the center. He’s conservative and has no trouble letting all know it. Just mention the word “Obama” and one can set him off into a long string of appropriate descriptors.

    Great guy!

    Comment by Da Coyote — October 12, 2009 @ 1:40 pm - October 12, 2009

  22. “who uses his skin color to avoid having to follow through or do what he says”

    And not only that, Obama wants public health insurance so the people who support him never have to get a job. It’s called “reparations.” As long as you’re black, you can blame everybody for your failures and then get free health insurance and free housing for not working because your ancestors were slaves (unless you’re Obama, in which case your ancestors were black slave traders–but why quibble?)

    Comment by Ashpenaz — October 12, 2009 @ 1:41 pm - October 12, 2009

  23. Good point. For example, I’d say the gay Left needs to worry about the Health Care bill. The insurance coverage mandates will make for ‘one size fits all’ insurance plans and that size WON’T be set to the needs of the gay community.

    Comment by Mike O — October 12, 2009 @ 1:47 pm - October 12, 2009

  24. You guys inhabit a real fantasy land over here. John McCain. Sarah Palin. Seriously.

    Comment by Mark — October 12, 2009 @ 1:51 pm - October 12, 2009

  25. Obama does not represent the gays. He believes that marriage is between a man and a woman. He used to be a Muslim before he converted to Christianity for election chance. You, gays, are just taking for a ride by democrats. Of course, you just too blind to see the obvious.

    Comment by myna — October 12, 2009 @ 1:55 pm - October 12, 2009

  26. What a stunning come back Mark!

    I’m sorry, no talking points yet for you to quote?

    Comment by The_Livewire — October 12, 2009 @ 2:03 pm - October 12, 2009

  27. Most interesting. gender politics aside, what did those who want the Nanny State expect?
    Those who lost power/seats in the last election cycle, gave the remaining seat holders the mindset of “sod off – we’re in power now”. Happened to the conservatives/libertarians – welcome to the neighborhood!
    The remaining majority only care about power and the ability to spend your money and tell you what/how/where/when to live your lives. As long as they have the votes, keeping (fill in your real or percieved minority here) on the reservation keeps them in their country club.
    The Lavender Lobby can scream all they want. Won’t matter, since the party in current power perceives they don’t need to cuddle up anymore.

    Comment by michael — October 12, 2009 @ 2:05 pm - October 12, 2009

  28. Obama is simply amazing. He has in less than one year managed to get to levels of negativity that Bush did not reach in six years. He has brought the economy to a point that the world not only laughs at us but is afraid of the next imbecility the democrats have in mind.

    Sarah Palin is still far better qualified on day one than Obama is today. Gays ought to consider voting for a libertarian as opposed to a democrat. Won’t be any worse off than where they are and perhaps the democrats will respect them and not take them for granted if they ever come to their senses. Indeed if there really is a republican emergence arising it will be the small government libertarian get out of my life and pockets type that will come to fore. RINO’s no one wants or needs. The lesser of the two evils just doesn’t cut it anymore.

    Comment by cubanbob — October 12, 2009 @ 2:17 pm - October 12, 2009

  29. NDT, this has far, far less to do with O! being black as opposed to a lying, scumsucking politician (redundancy alert).

    “Politician: derived from the Greek poly, meaning many, and tick, a small blood-sucking parasite.”

    Comment by SDN — October 12, 2009 @ 3:04 pm - October 12, 2009

  30. #17: To suggest Obama can accomplish his entire agenda within __________________ is ludicrous. patience is needed before judgment can be made. the knee-jerk reactions have been laughable, including the dolts posting on this forum.

    There, bnl. I made you handy little form you can use for the rest of Obama’s Presidency. Just fill in the blank, i.e., “3 years, 11 months, 29 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes, and 59 seconds”.

    Comment by Sean A — October 12, 2009 @ 3:11 pm - October 12, 2009

  31. Perhaps the aftermath of Prop 8 did smarten some LGBT folks up.

    It’s anybody’s guess how long it will last, though.

    Comment by Seerak — October 12, 2009 @ 3:22 pm - October 12, 2009

  32. #24: “You guys inhabit a real fantasy land over here.”

    Mark has apparently confused this blog with an HRC dinner where Barack Obama is the keynote speaker.

    Comment by Sean A — October 12, 2009 @ 3:25 pm - October 12, 2009

  33. Of course the Democrats dont actually care about gay rights, as someone allready said, what are you going to do, vote Republican?

    Comment by Vivictius — October 12, 2009 @ 3:30 pm - October 12, 2009

  34. #17 …”… he saw how the right demolished clinton’s enitre agenda throughout the enactment of ‘DADT’… ”

    You DO realize that it’s 2009 now, not 1996, right? It’s ridiculous to assume that supporting the repeal of DADT would have any measurable impact on Obama’s future political capital. The suport for this policy is not the same now as it was 14 years ago. The vast majority of the public want DADT repealed and that includes the conservative public. So how do you expect the right to use repeal of this out dated policy (that even a large percentage of miltary brass see as pointless in today’s world) as some kind of battering ram against Obama and his agenda. Your assumptions are based on your belief that the majority of the right still supports DADT and that just simply isn’t true.

    Comment by Kristie — October 12, 2009 @ 5:36 pm - October 12, 2009

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  36. According to the MSN, I am a right wing, racist, homophobic, bible clinging, gun owning (lots I might add), redneck, white, trailer trash Southerner.

    But I’m not, except for the white thing, the bible thing, the gun thing, the trailer thing and the Southerner thing.

    Homophobic?? Used to be and might still be a little. It just seems to be crammed in my face at every turn and that turns me off to the whole concept of it.

    But I will cave on the Civil Unions. Love is love I guess. Hey, it’s a big step for me. Don’t jump my shit!!

    Homosexuals and lesbians are tools of the Democrat party. Always have been and always will be. Just like the Blacks and Hispanics in this Country. Until y’all wake up.

    Join the Rethuglicans! Or better yet, let’s start the Conservative Party. Hell, we can do better than the choices we have now.

    Comment by Andrew — October 12, 2009 @ 6:37 pm - October 12, 2009

  37. Some of us conservatives are the parents of gay voters. We may not agree on some “talking points”, but you’re more likely to find that most of the “central” conservatives are willing to work with you guys to resolve issues. Change won’t happen overnight, but we will at least try to be respectful while we work to get there -

    Come on over to the “dark side” – as the T-Shirt says, we have cookies!

    Comment by Michelle's mom — October 12, 2009 @ 6:50 pm - October 12, 2009

  38. It’s not the Gay left that’s criticising Obama. They’re still Democrats before being Gay – or even American.

    It’s the grassroots centre. The ones who’d vote for the GOP if it weren’t over-run by theocrats, the way that the DNC is over-run with utopian idealists. But i don’t have to tell Log cabiners about the opposition they face in their own party, do I?

    Don’t fall for the spin the WH is putting on this.

    Disclaimer: I’m Australian, and have no dog in this hunt. I just calls em how I sees em.

    Comment by Zoe Brain — October 12, 2009 @ 7:05 pm - October 12, 2009

  39. The gay left is really just ahead of the curve from the other special interest groups on the left who supported Obama, thinking after inauguration he’d implement their pet projects within the 10-day period required to qualify for the Nobel Peace Prize.

    But all those years in Rev. Wright’s church combined with the African-American vote that carried Prop. 8 to victory in California after Obama voiced the same position during the sit-down with Rick Warren should have given the gay left a hint that there was a strong chance that of all the special interest groups that were part of the coalition and which Obama normally is loathe to challenge, theirs would be the ones he threw under the bus first.

    The community that Obama came out of is one of the least supportive of gay rights, and Obama was never likely to buck them right off the bat, no matter what he believes personally, out of fears of losing more votes than he’d gain out of some of the other groups (even if gays may have donated more $$$ to Obama-Biden than African-Americans in 2008, the latter group has more votes) and strategically as a way to show that Barack Obama isn’t enthralled to special interest groups.

    Except when he is, of course.

    Comment by John — October 12, 2009 @ 7:41 pm - October 12, 2009

  40. “I’m not ashamed at all for enjoying every minute of the fact that on November 4, 2008, every single one of those leftist idiots thought they were going home with Martin Luther King, Jr. and woke up with Ike Turner.”

    that’s so funny i’ve got to be thanking you.

    thanks

    Comment by wandering TEA partier — October 12, 2009 @ 8:08 pm - October 12, 2009

  41. while we are waiting for barack to find enough time in his busy schedule… when he’s not golfing, playing with star wars toys on the whitehouse lawn, going out on dates with the wifey, appearing in after-school specials, hitting a broadway show, shopping in paris, taking the secret service out for a burger, etc…..to lift a finger to do anything about gay equality, we need to start doing some serious work on building bridges to the conservative and ‘middle’ .. yes, the kind of folks who attend the reviled tea parties.. if we are ever going to see real change in our society for gay people.

    Comment by el polacko — October 12, 2009 @ 9:23 pm - October 12, 2009

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  43. Really. You all want everything right now, or you’re going to take your toys and go home. Would you rather have Bush back and the whole Republican horror? Was that better for any of us? Rather than whining, why not pitch in and make sure things get done, probably not all at once, but one thing at a time until it’s fair and rational? Let’s start by repealing Prop. 8 in California.

    Comment by Molly — October 13, 2009 @ 10:01 am - October 13, 2009

  44. Would you rather have Bush back and the whole Republican horror? Was that better for any of us?

    Yes, in several respects.

    You see, Molly, none of us really believe that you support gay rights in any fashion, given how willing you are to throw them away for your Obama Party massas. You’re merely an anti-Republican bigot who uses “gay rights” as a smokescreen.

    Have some respect for the law. The reason Proposition 8 lost was simple; people realized that gays were just pushing antireligious bigotry and hate. That’s why gay liberals were calling black people “niggers”. That’s why gay liberals were mailing white powder to and vandalizing churches. That’s why gay liberals were demonstrating and trying to get people fired from their jobs for making a simple political contribution. It had nothing to do with rights or benefits; it had everything to do with antireligious jihad. Even the head of No on 8 was bragging and blabbering at meetings that marriage was an outdated and worthless “patriarchal institution”.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — October 13, 2009 @ 12:46 pm - October 13, 2009

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  46. “we need to start doing some serious work on building bridges to the conservative and ‘middle’ …”

    By coming out of the closet in the heartland. Why is marriage in California the priority? All our resources should go to support gays born in the Bible Belt. Coming out is the way to change the political math for both parties.

    I voted for McCain because he helped to kill Bush’s Federal Marriage Amendment. Did he get any credit for that? Did Sarah Palin get any credit for vetoing an anti-gay bill in Alaska?

    As for Obama — what part of “pull down your pajamas … [BLEEP] … now get dressed and get lost” is so hard to understand?

    Comment by whoframedrudy — October 18, 2009 @ 10:07 pm - October 18, 2009

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